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Tom Bombadil
02/10/19 2:23:15 PM
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I pulled once and now I think I'm just gonna save for Trails even though I have no concept of when that's happening
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Lopen
02/10/19 2:33:21 PM
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How much time do you have left to get Cherie? It isn't too hard to get her in the two weeks I had (I thought I read the original time limit was two weeks which is weird because I didn't play the first week) but I don't know how exactly the game counts the deadline as far as account creation vs absolute time.

I also read that what server you create your account on might help? Like if you don't mind losing progress you could jump over to Roga Valley and they're still early on the Cherie thing?
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swordz9
02/10/19 3:27:43 PM
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Roga is where I started I believe. Did a second multi and got almost all R dupes, an SR Emerick and an R Pierre. I guess I could replace Scott with Emerick now so thats nice at least
Wanglicious
02/10/19 3:54:03 PM
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it's confusing.
this is a chinese mobile game on a dead series whose last entry was one of the worst games on the system.

how is it actually good?
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BlackMageJawa
02/10/19 3:58:55 PM
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Is this one of those ones where you can feasibly do story mode as a freeloader, and you only really have to worry about ultra-rare-uber-units if you want to compete in leaderboards and whatnot, or does the campaign become stupidly hard without excessive grinding/payment?
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ChaosTonyV4
02/10/19 5:07:50 PM
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BlackMageJawa posted...
Is this one of those ones where you can feasibly do story mode as a freeloader, and you only really have to worry about ultra-rare-uber-units if you want to compete in leaderboards and whatnot, or does the campaign become stupidly hard without excessive grinding/payment?


Ive reached a part where theres an element of grinding for player level, but based on what Ive pulled so far (4-ish 10 draws) and the massive amount of gems I still have (enough for at least 5 more, and I have no want to keep pulling).

I dont foresee myself ever needing to spend money.
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Lord Ephraim
02/10/19 5:20:05 PM
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Wanglicious posted...
it's confusing.
this is a chinese mobile game on a dead series whose last entry was one of the worst games on the system.

how is it actually good?


It's what Fire Emblem Heroes should have been. The only thing FEH does better is the Gatcha. 2% and no pity system for SSR is completely terrible.
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ShatteredElysium
02/10/19 6:09:46 PM
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There is kind of a pity system coming. On upcoming focus banners you are guaranteed to get one of the featured units that you don't already have if you actually manage to get an SSR. And they let you get SSRs through events too

But yeah rates are awful but at least SRs are great too
Wanglicious
02/10/19 7:41:11 PM
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okay.
this game has too many SSR dudes.
first i get Ledin.
then i get Altemuller.
NOW i get not one but two summons of Dieharte in the same fucking roll.

where the fuck are my waifus.
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ShatteredElysium
02/10/19 7:43:18 PM
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Altemuller is amazing if you have a strategy team. The ability to just ignore terrain for movement purposes for your entire team is OP as fuck
Wanglicious
02/10/19 8:07:41 PM
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he'll especially be good with horseback units (cavalry emblem rears its head again...!) and getting me through water heavy terrains, i'm just annoyed that my only waifu so far is the free one. i mean she's great at killing things but c'mon.

also there is one bad thing i can say about this game: its AI if you want to win.
holy hell its AI hits a point that's so bad i'm intrigued at what possible logic is behind anything it does. i can never field Narm with it and healers exist just to die or buff, never to heal.

"oh, you're almost dead? don't worry i'm going to run right up to the enemy to attack them with my special attack!"
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Lopen
02/11/19 2:37:06 PM
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Lord Ephraim posted...
It's what Fire Emblem Heroes should have been. The only thing FEH does better is the Gatcha. 2% and no pity system for SSR is completely terrible.


I'm not sure I agree with this. On the one hand yes 2% and no pity rate kinda sucks. On the other hand my understanding is that on banner rate is 85%, and there are only two banner units, which means odds of getting the unit you actually want is pretty comparable to Heroes. (3%/4 = 0.75% base on a 4 unit banner vs 2% * 0.85/2 = 0.85% base)

Also units seem a bit less prone to being powercrept based on looking into the future releases a bit, and you can upgrade star rating by doing in game content rather than needing draws (draws just accelerate their growth but gate of fate can get you 1-5 shards a day) so you need to draw less overall by far.

All in all I feel the game's gacha is fairly generous considering longevity and number of draws actually required. This may change in the future as we can only see like 4 months in the future as far as longevity goes, but FEH you were feeling the powercreep pretty quick tbh.

And this is to say nothing about the sorta pity system SE was talkin about which honestly seems great.
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Grimmer
02/11/19 2:52:53 PM
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I'm not sure what the on banner focus percentage actually is. I've seen people cite 65%, 75%, and 85% before and they don't provide any information in game. I have summoned six SSRs and only hit one focus.
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Lopen
02/11/19 2:56:52 PM
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I'm 3/4 (with the 4th ironically being one I wanted anyway just off the wrong banner) myself which had me inclined to believe the 85% figure. 1/6 is rather extreme though if it is actually 85%. Though honestly that's going to be extreme no matter how you cut it as the rate is likely 50% at worst.

There's also the possibility that the odds of on banner tank if you already got one SSR from the banner-- given their pity mechanic I wouldn't discount that one. Worth noting that the one time I got an offbanner it was on the second SSR pull from the banner.
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Grimmer
02/11/19 3:05:34 PM
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Yeah, I'm definitely an outlier no matter what it actually is.

I've pulled them from three separate banners. Tiaris from Leon, Ledin/Bozel from Lana, and Bozel/Elwin/Diehart from Luna I believe.
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ShatteredElysium
02/11/19 3:29:43 PM
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I have yet to pull an off banner unit and I have Leon, Bern, Liana and Luna from banners. Not sure on total number of pulls but probably somewhere in the 15-20 range
HashtagSEP
02/11/19 3:44:33 PM
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I've done about 5-6 pulls and only have an off banner Elwin.
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Lopen
02/11/19 9:54:25 PM
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Got Bernhardt off the Leon/Bernhardt banner after two draws since I noticed Lana needed to team with Leon to unlock one of her loyalty levels (bad gimmick this) and also I kinda wanted Bernhardt to possibly run a dark faction tank.

So I have 5 SSR draws in 11 tries, 4/5 on banner. Kinda unreal luck.
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greengravy294
02/11/19 10:10:19 PM
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I got cool guy Alwin the Winner
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Yankees
02/11/19 10:20:38 PM
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You actually need certain units to progress with the bond levels? None of my units have required that yet. I don't like this
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Lopen
02/11/19 10:37:42 PM
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It's just to unlock the bond level bonus stats you level with keys, not to actually do the battles or increase bond. Like they have two requirements it's "bond level 5/10/15/20/25" and "???" and one of Lana's references teaming with Leon and doing something or other

Might be doable with friend battles? Still dumb. I don't like it either.
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greengravy294
02/11/19 10:44:26 PM
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swordz9
02/12/19 1:07:38 PM
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What do I do with these crystals? I havent seen anything I can buy with them other than gold which I already have a lot of.
Lopen
02/12/19 1:12:03 PM
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The rainbow ones? The main use for them is to buy Trinity Vouchers aka Summon Tickets. 88 per ticket. Don't buy gold. (It's in the same screen you can buy gold in)

You can also use em for stamina refreshes (actually kinda useful in this game despite me scoffing earlier I've done a single one a couple of times) and upcoming lotto events which apparently are mostly just valuable for costumes
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swordz9
02/12/19 1:41:44 PM
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Oh ok. Well hot damn I guess I have a small pile of summon currency

Oh fuck I got Cherie, SR Egbert and SR Chris. Thanks Lopen!
swordz9
02/12/19 2:13:54 PM
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One thing I like is nearly all the swordz9 waifus are SRs. I did another 10-pull and just got a dupe of Lance. Kinda regret that one, but oh well Im happy I got Cherie. Can almost raise Annas stars too
Yankees
02/12/19 2:41:28 PM
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If you really like Cherie, you can save up the 4000 crystals for her angel costume. You can view it on her character page.

I can't wait to star Cherie up. The decreased cooldown for her second turn sounds pretty nice
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swordz9
02/12/19 3:57:35 PM
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Thats a lot of summons worth of crystals! Also conflicted on what to do with my party classes. I was thinking of making Matthew a Dragon Rider, but hes still my only red sword user and I have 2 fine fliers already. I can promote Matthew, Almeda, Grenier, Anna and Cherie right now. So indecisive on what to do with them though. Was gonna go summoner on Anna, but if I make her a Bishop she can give a 20% DEF buff to multiple characters which sounds great
Yankees
02/12/19 4:15:06 PM
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I'd keep Cherie as a flier on the middle path. Flier movement works best with her second turns, and it encourages you to distance her from your allies.

Keep in mind that some second tier classes don't promote into a third tier. You really only have the middle option for a character like Grenier
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swordz9
02/12/19 4:25:48 PM
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Oh, I didnt even realize that. Guess that makes it easier for some.
Lopen
02/12/19 4:29:03 PM
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Yeah generally you should avoid promoting into classes that only go one deep to start if you can avoid it like Anna's Summoner. Otherwise you're basically forced to burn a runestone to make em late game usable, and those are in fairly short supply

Basically how the runestone works is you get the first second tier and third tier choice you make free, and you can pay runestones to move into ones you didn't pick first. You can however go back to classes you've already unlocked at any time just for gold. Now if you really want to make her a summoner you can but just realize you're ultimately gonna wanna spend the one runestone to put her on the three tier path after mastering summoner. It's basically a must unless you've phased her out. I believe the third tier class will still be free if you do that though, so it's not "inefficient" exactly, just commits you to using a runestone which you may find you don't want to do by the time you're in the position to.

Related note summons seem only useful for drawing aggro based on what I've seen. It's not a total waste as that can be valuable but yeah.
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ShatteredElysium
02/12/19 5:19:56 PM
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Some are worth the runestone for the record. Like I used a runestone so I could have passive AOE heal on Imelda and then Mass Heal too down her main path. Leaving her as a pseudo healer/buffer/DPS hybrid because Empire faction healers are very limited. Also means you can run dual healer setups without losing too much which helps on some things
greengravy294
02/12/19 5:24:55 PM
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Seems unlikely I'll finish path of light in 5 days

I have like 17 missions cleared now on chapter 8 or whatever
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ChaosTonyV4
02/12/19 6:03:31 PM
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greengravy294 posted...
Seems unlikely I'll finish path of light in 5 days

I have like 17 missions cleared now on chapter 8 or whatever


Play faster.
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swordz9
02/12/19 6:35:46 PM
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Man Cherie is so good. Lighting + extra action skill is nuts. Just wiped out two groups and was free to use Lightning again my next turn. Whats the weakness triangle for flier units? I tried to fight a griffin or hawk guy with my dragons and it said I was weak to him :( Also running into lots of archers now. How cruel considering the forst free SR is a flier lol
Lopen
02/12/19 6:42:20 PM
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There is no weapon triangle for fliers. It's archers > fliers. Top left of the screen on map setup has the triangles.

The reason dude could have appeared as weak is the guy could've had a skill. Lance has a skill that makes him strong vs Cavalry and Fliers for example

Other thing to note is the troops can influence that too. I don't think fliers can have bowman support so that's unlikely what happened there but like you can have a sword unit with lance troops and they'll be strong against horses while their troops are still alive, though they'll do slightly less damage as the hero will still do ineffective damage vs the horse.
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Tom Bombadil
02/12/19 6:45:14 PM
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it hurts my head to think about unit/troop mixing
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swordz9
02/12/19 6:52:06 PM
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Oh, it was Lance I was facing so that explains that. I never even read his skill before oops. Upgraded almost all of my main force. Benched Lance for Cherie. Might make Lance into a blue horse unit though instead of keeping Scott or Emerick. Not sure yet. Basically just waiting until I get my Sonya
greengravy294
02/12/19 9:08:05 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
greengravy294 posted...
Seems unlikely I'll finish path of light in 5 days

I have like 17 missions cleared now on chapter 8 or whatever


Play faster.

Yeah but then I'll get bored
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swordz9
02/12/19 9:09:07 PM
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Im incredibly impressed by N Grenier. Dude is a goddamn tank. I use Almeda to buff his DEF, slap Regen on him from Anna, have him use Guard and he shrugs off everything he isnt weak to while keeping my healers safe.
Lopen
02/12/19 10:42:01 PM
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Tanks in general in this game seem fairly effective at what they do, yeah. And ranged units are super squishy so you need them to do their job. I really like that.

I'm actually running Bernhardt as an offtank using stone brother golems as his troops, going through his gladiator path first, and he's pretty effective at it, effectively guarding against all damage types with varying effectiveness. Vargas and Freya were better but he can actually do damage and stun, so yeah this seems like a worthy investment. I'm not sure if I'm going to actually do his general path for the two range guard-- parry might be enough we'll see.
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swordz9
02/12/19 10:51:21 PM
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Got Sonya while going for the evil character banner. Now I gotta farm some stuff so I can advance her class and Ill have a main team of

Cherie
Sonya
Anna
Grenier
Almeda/Matthew
Yankees
02/13/19 12:02:00 AM
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A tank is basically required to keep your healers and mages safe, yeah. Ledin plays the role really well for me since he has no color disadvantage and hits back like a truck with his Divine Guard up.

I'm running a pretty standard legion of glory team now with Elwin (faction buff), Ledin, Cherie, Tiaris, and Hein/Chris. It works pretty well, and I'm slowly working their way up to 4*. Apparently, Elwin gets a buff later so I'm looking forward to that
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swordz9
02/13/19 12:24:03 AM
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Elite Rift 1-4 wrecked me. The first 3 were so easy too.
Lopen
02/14/19 4:51:48 AM
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So there's an announcement for the lottery (I think?) that pops up when I log in

I click it to get info, it takes me to the announcements

It isn't there. Silly game.
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Grimmer
02/14/19 8:05:32 AM
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The lottery is there now. My free roll got one of the bronze prizes
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ShatteredElysium
02/14/19 9:37:01 AM
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I think its heavily weighted towards the lower prizes even though they get removed once pulled. I pulled 3 times including the freebie and got bronze on all 3
Grimmer
02/14/19 9:53:29 AM
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Seems like it based on the experiences I've read. I would really like the Cherie skin, but it's too expensive to commit to it. Probably just going to continue saving for that Luna/Lana banner
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Luis_Sera89
02/14/19 10:07:55 AM
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I got the grand prize on my third try despite not having a Cherie yet to use it on, then decided to celebrate by doing a 10 pull on the general summon banner, and promptly pulled Cherie. I guess I had to get lucky sooner or later!
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Lopen
02/14/19 10:16:54 AM
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Did two pulls and got Hammerx10 and 5 Friendship Vouchers aka two Bronze.

There are some good prizes on there but probably gonna pass on doing more. I do kinda like Cherie though and will probably run Princess as a secondary faction so I dunno maybe I'll go for the skin.

Anyone know if these things ever come back?
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