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ScareChan
02/04/19 8:06:39 PM
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just add hornzingos
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Reg
02/04/19 8:11:40 PM
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Oh seeing this topic reminds me

Who the fuck is Kristaps Porzingis

I heard his name on the news a day or two ago but if the last time I posted in this topic didn't make it clear I know jack shit about the past 5-7 years of basketball
Menji
02/04/19 8:24:19 PM
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I want AD but please don't get rid of Lonzo and Kuzma
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ninkendo
02/04/19 8:29:04 PM
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Reg posted...
Oh seeing this topic reminds me

Who the fuck is Kristaps Porzingis

I heard his name on the news a day or two ago but if the last time I posted in this topic didn't make it clear I know jack shit about the past 5-7 years of basketball


The #4 pick in the 2015 NBA draft and the only good player on the Knicks since then
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KommunistKoala
02/04/19 8:33:51 PM
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also coming off an acl tear
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KCF0107
02/04/19 8:36:52 PM
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Menji posted...
I want AD but please don't get rid of Lonzo and Kuzma

You should have seen this coming when LeBron signed
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Reg
02/04/19 8:37:07 PM
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So what you're saying is

The Mavs are gonna be actually maybe a good basketball team next year, but still lose anyways because they're competing with Golden State and Lebron?
KommunistKoala
02/04/19 8:41:30 PM
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KD and Cousins will likely leave Golden State after this year (there's no way they'll be paying them and Klay, even if Klay takes a pay cut) so Warriors might not be the easy pick after this year
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SeabassDebeste
02/04/19 9:07:11 PM
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Reg posted...
So what you're saying is

The Mavs are gonna be actually maybe a good basketball team next year, but still lose anyways because they're competing with Golden State and Lebron?

depends on your definition of good. they wouldn't win in a non-GSW/lebron league next year - i'd still easily rank them lower than portland, for example
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ShatteredElysium
02/04/19 9:13:09 PM
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Menji posted...
I want AD but please don't get rid of Lonzo and Kuzma


I mean there's no way you get AD and get to keep them
TheRock1525
02/04/19 9:43:50 PM
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Pistons rout the team with the best record in the West.

Ok.
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ScareChan
02/05/19 12:12:12 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BtfNEGhn7x0/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=9g3sfroyu829

MARVIN

FUCKING

BAGLEY
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ScareChan
02/05/19 12:19:06 AM
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Two things that San Antonio will remember tonight

The Alamo

And Marvin Fucking Bagley

Kings a half game out of 8th seed. We got Houston next
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ExThaNemesis
02/05/19 12:58:00 AM
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Huge game by the Kings tonight. Didn't just win but WHOOPED ON the Spurs.
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MZero11
02/05/19 5:25:09 AM
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Come on Zion whoo
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 1:22:52 PM
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Wow poor Wizards. John Walls injury is a ruptured achilles tendon and he's out for 12 months.

Reminder his 170m extension doesn't even kick in until next season and players do not tend to come back well from ruptured achilles, especially not at 30+. That is a hell of a lot of money invested in a player that very likely will never be the same again

He's due 47m in 22-23 so they are fucked cap wise for a long time
ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 3:31:53 PM
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Lord, just realized how bleak things are for Wizards.

They are already over the salary cap for next season with only 6 players on contract for the year and 1 of those is Wall

So they have to go way over cap to resign their own players or sign purely min contracts / mid level exception to fill out roster
KommunistKoala
02/05/19 3:39:12 PM
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"The Lakers had agreed to send their entire young core of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac to the Pelicans, as well as veteran guard Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, the people said. The Lakers were also willing to also send the Pelicans two first-round draft picks."

And Pelicans didn't take that? I even heard they were willing to take the Solomon Hill contract.
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ExThaNemesis
02/05/19 3:40:04 PM
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The Pelicans are the worst run franchise in all of modern history.
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Nelson_Mandela
02/05/19 3:49:44 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
"The Lakers had agreed to send their entire young core of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac to the Pelicans, as well as veteran guard Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, the people said. The Lakers were also willing to also send the Pelicans two first-round draft picks."

And Pelicans didn't take that? I even heard they were willing to take the Solomon Hill contract.

There is no chance that offer was made
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Nelson_Mandela
02/05/19 3:50:37 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
The Pelicans are the worst run franchise in all of modern history.

To be fair, no one in NOLA (including the owners) cares about basketball. The Knicks still take the cake.
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ExThaNemesis
02/05/19 3:52:33 PM
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The Knicks are bad but they at least got some value for KP, a player who might never be able to play at a high level again due to his injury.

The Pelicans...

Well this would be like cutting your entire face off just to spite your face.
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 3:52:42 PM
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The Pelicans twitter account is trolling right now. Posted an emoji, Rob Perez replied with a black king emoji and angry emoji (i.e. the king is angry) and Pelicans replied with a baby GIF which I interpreted as them saying he's a baby
Emeraldegg
02/05/19 3:53:20 PM
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The thinking is that same offer will still be on the table, plus maybe the celtics will offer something better.

I think that offer is the best they'll get and is, quite frankly, an overpay.
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Nelson_Mandela
02/05/19 3:54:25 PM
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At this point just trade him to Detroit or some other trash pile in the East for nothing, just to spite LeBron.
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Emeraldegg
02/05/19 3:54:34 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
KommunistKoala posted...
"The Lakers had agreed to send their entire young core of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Josh Hart and Ivica Zubac to the Pelicans, as well as veteran guard Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, the people said. The Lakers were also willing to also send the Pelicans two first-round draft picks."

And Pelicans didn't take that? I even heard they were willing to take the Solomon Hill contract.

There is no chance that offer was made

I mean this was from Woj which is like the biggest NBA media informant in the business so...
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 3:55:22 PM
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I think this is the Twitter thread

https://mobile.twitter.com/PelicansNBA/status/1092884169762447361

And yeah that offer is good if it actually got offered but there's no reason for them to take it now when they can wait to see how the lotto shakes out and process offers then.

What if the Pelicans win the lotto? Maybe AD stays? What if the Knicks win the lotto and offer Zion in a package for AD?

There's no reason for them to trade now really
ExThaNemesis
02/05/19 3:58:16 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
There's no reason for them to trade now really


I would say that normally, but the value is WAY TOO HIGH right now to hedge your bets on a bunch of IF scenarios that may not happen.

And on top of that, AD will begin counting the hours down on the last year of his contract and you stare down the barrel of losing him for free.
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Emeraldegg
02/05/19 4:16:54 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
ShatteredElysium posted...
There's no reason for them to trade now really


I would say that normally, but the value is WAY TOO HIGH right now to hedge your bets on a bunch of IF scenarios that may not happen.

And on top of that, AD will begin counting the hours down on the last year of his contract and you stare down the barrel of losing him for free.

I think the thing that hurts the pels by waiting is that, now that we seem to know an idea of where he wants to go (namely that places other than the lakers exists for him), then it's risky for a team to trade for him when he might just bounce after one year.

Like if the lakers wait till the summer and then do the trade, and they suck, AD could very well leave them just the same way he'd have left the pelicans. Then they're double boned. I don't know if waiting is the best scenario here, I think the safest thing is to take the haul while it's still on the table, before any other details come out that might hurt his potential trade value. P much what extha said. Which I guess I shoudl have quoted shattered but w/e.
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ExThaNemesis
02/05/19 4:18:07 PM
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Especially when the other option is to play some weird "Heehee let's troll LeBron on Twitter" game

Like grow up. This is why you don't get invited to the fucking adult table
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 4:47:46 PM
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Well I was wrong about one thing. There's no Bamba conspiracy keeping him out because of trade potential. Just announced he has a stress fracture in his lower left leg and will be out for a lengthy period of time
SeabassDebeste
02/05/19 5:25:44 PM
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it seems like a nice package but... why is this can't-miss? lonzo-BI-kuzma are nice, but they represent like a .500 squad.
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ScareChan
02/05/19 5:27:22 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
it seems like a nice package but... why is this can't-miss? lonzo-BI-kuzma are nice, but they represent like a .500 squad.


because they can all be turds or one of them can become a diamon plus pick options

What package are you turning this down FOR is a better question. What are you thinking you can get
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Nelson_Mandela
02/05/19 5:38:01 PM
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ScareChan posted...
What package are you turning this down FOR is a better question. What are you thinking you can get

Hold out for next year and trade with Boston
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TheRock1525
02/05/19 5:41:28 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
At this point just trade him to Detroit or some other trash pile in the East for nothing, just to spite LeBron.


I like the way Snrub thinks.
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TheRock1525
02/05/19 5:42:07 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Well I was wrong about one thing. There's no Bamba conspiracy keeping him out because of trade potential. Just announced he has a stress fracture in his lower left leg and will be out for a lengthy period of time


Will you give us Fournier now?
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 5:45:48 PM
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I don't think Bamba injury changes much for the Magic apart from they won't trade Vucevic at trade deadline (which already looked unlikely)

Khem Birch will step in for Bamba whilst he's out and Birch has been better than Bamba the entire time he's played. The only reason Bamba plays over him is because he's a rookie and developing. As it stands right now, Birch is 100% a bigger positive on the floor than Bamba.

I can't see Fournier going to you guys because nothing of value is coming back. I could see Fournier getting packaged with something else for a young player though.
ScareChan
02/05/19 5:47:13 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
ScareChan posted...
What package are you turning this down FOR is a better question. What are you thinking you can get

Hold out for next year and trade with Boston


For what? Because that package has more value than Tatum on his own
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TheRock1525
02/05/19 5:48:09 PM
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You're not allowed to bitch about Fournier then ask for anything of value back.

You will take Glenn Robinson III's unguaranteed second year and Jon Leuer and you will like it, dammit.
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KommunistKoala
02/05/19 5:48:11 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
ScareChan posted...
What package are you turning this down FOR is a better question. What are you thinking you can get

Hold out for next year and trade with Boston

Implying you should ever trade with Boston

They'll be lucky to get Brown for Davis straight up from Ainge.
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 5:54:54 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
You're not allowed to bitch about Fournier then ask for anything of value back.

You will take Glenn Robinson III's unguaranteed second year and Jon Leuer and you will like it, dammit.


I can bitch about Fournier all I want because I am not the one who decides what is traded. Personally I would have benched him quite some time ago or at the very least trimmed his minutes down.

I would give him away if it was up to me but it's clear the organization doesn't think that.
TheRock1525
02/05/19 5:55:57 PM
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Clearly as b8's number 1 Orlando Magic fan it's time to put that clout to use.
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 6:01:02 PM
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Our front office is frustrating because absolutely nothing gets leaked about trades on our end. So we only ever hear on the back end sometimes or just pure media speculation.

Like we know that our FO shot down Bamba for Dennis Smith Jr but only because someone from the other side leaked it after the fact.
ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 6:02:41 PM
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Hornets are very likely getting Gasol from the Grizzlies apparently
KommunistKoala
02/05/19 6:11:49 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Clearly as b8's number 1 Orlando Magic fan it's time to put that clout to use.

I mean he's gotta be like 25% of the fanbase at this point right
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TheRock1525
02/05/19 7:03:56 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Clearly as b8's number 1 Orlando Magic fan it's time to put that clout to use.

I mean he's gotta be like 25% of the fanbase at this point right


My dad's second favorite team is now Orlando since we started doing winters down here.

Poor guy.
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ShatteredElysium
02/05/19 7:44:37 PM
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ShatteredElysium posted...
Hornets are very likely getting Gasol from the Grizzlies apparently


This is seeming more imminent

Read into it what you will, but there is a trash bag next to Marc Gasols locker partially filled, and the number 33 above his locker is not there anymore.
TheRock1525
02/05/19 7:46:03 PM
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He shall now be called Charc Gasol.
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TheRock1525
02/06/19 12:27:17 AM
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Reggie Bullock traded for garbage.

Rock tries not to kill himself.
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ScareChan
02/06/19 12:30:47 AM
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Im so nervous

Sacramento has to do something before deadline because we have so much space, even to just be a third party

I just dont want any bad guys in the lockerroom or anything

and not give up any of our key guys
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