Board 8 > Kingdom Hearts III Discussion Topic *potential spoilers*

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LapisLazuli
02/09/19 5:25:19 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Also wow very classy for someone who has no interest in the series to come into a topic specifically to post a negative review!


It's Dunkey it's just a laugh.

I was posting about picking it up eventually on the first page :/
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/09/19 5:27:10 PM
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I was told the opposite in discord and that he legit hates the game
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BlackDra90n
02/09/19 5:34:25 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
Given how little main story happens while Sora is out Disneying around, I really would've liked it if they'd given us more Riku gameplay segments mixed in. Like how about actually exploring the Dark World with him and Mickey, and then actually wandering around Radiant Garden as him where they then have the excuse to put Leon and them back in for cameos. Obviously it wouldn't be the whole world of Radiant Garden, just like how Twilight Town was condensed, but it'd still be something.


Playing as Aqua was really awesome too, was kinda disappointed that we only got to do it once.
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Dancedreamer
02/09/19 5:40:18 PM
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BlackDra90n posted...
Playing as Aqua was really awesome too, was kinda disappointed that we only got to do it once.


Yeah, I want a game where You play as Aqua again. But with KH3 style gameplay and not the card stuff we get in BBS
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pjbasis
02/09/19 6:13:32 PM
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I enjoyed kh3 but the dunk is spot on if hyperbolic.
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Waluigi1
02/09/19 6:23:59 PM
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He may be an ironic fan, but he's still some kind of fan of the series.
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pjbasis
02/09/19 6:37:56 PM
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KH just has a lot going for it on grounds of aesthetic and ambition but it just has no one with execution chops actually making these games.

So it translates to something that a lot of people find appealing and like even after lots of bad stuff we come back for more. There's a hint of greatness in that. But...
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/09/19 7:26:13 PM
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I actually think it executes what it goes for rather well. It does get a bit TOO ambitious sometimes but for how much it goes for, I think ti hits way more than it misses and creates a magic that is wholly unique to it.
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colliding
02/09/19 7:59:25 PM
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I was impressed by KH3, not because I think it's perfect, but because it's not terribly flawed, which is just what I expect from SE these days. I was full on expecting a second half collapse on the level of MGS V or FFXV. Even if the game feels a tad rushed in places, I don't think it ever feels "incomplete."

I think it could benefit from the following additions:

Kairi/Axel training intro
playable riku & mickey in radiant garden
an expanded land of departure
an actual "final dungeon" - either an expanded badlands or scala ad caelum


that sounds like a lot, but yeah
Bane_Of_Despair
02/09/19 8:00:46 PM
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Those are all fair, maybe the last one I'm actually still fine with what we got in the game but I totally get why someone would want more.
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Shadow Dino
02/09/19 10:13:59 PM
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Here's how ridiculous a certain endgame fight can be.

MAJOR ENDGAME SPOILERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaFXQLJfelM" data-time="


Sora wins by (almost) doing absolutely nothing

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Pirateking2000
02/09/19 10:18:26 PM
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It really is a travesty we didn't get explorable SaC leading up to the final boss. Having such a good ost basically wasted is sad and its such a good "buildup for the ultimate finale" theme too.
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pjbasis
02/09/19 10:27:31 PM
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Yeah after 1 and 2 nailed that sort of thing it was probably my one actual disappointment.
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Waluigi1
02/10/19 4:02:44 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I think the game was either rushed, or just had a super hard do by date and so they cut things shorter than originally intended.
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Shadow Dino
02/10/19 11:44:23 AM
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Even with some cut content, the game still feels complete. And one of the small silver linings of living in the day of DLC is that some of that can be resolved with said DLC.

No more waiting a year for a Final Mix release that never makes it out of Japan until an HD remaster!
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Xiahou Shake
02/10/19 9:47:15 PM
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Finally finished it!

Pretty good. It suffers from some very unfortunate decisions pacing and story-wise, and the combat has the same problem as KH2 vanilla - it's mechanically solid but the game almost doesn't push back against you at all. Because of that, you can just mash through most challenges and occasionally heal, with the added problem of the game giving you some fucking LUDICROUS options that tbqh need to be toned down. (Attractions being easily the worst offender)

That said, it does end up serving as a fairly competent conclusion to an absolute mess of plot threads that needed addressing, enough so that I feel like most fans who played all the games will be "happy enough" with this. The Org fights ended up being pretty darn cool, especially the final showdown against Master Xehanort, which is all I could really hope for. I must say, as someone who did play Union X for a year or so, the finale against Demon Tower was totally unexpected and really fucking cool.

A Final Mix upgrade would/could help this game out fucking enormously, so at this point I'm really hoping that does happen eventually.

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pjbasis
02/10/19 9:51:25 PM
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I think xehanort having a terrible voice actor killed a lot of the finale for me.
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foolm0r0n
02/10/19 9:56:06 PM
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LTM would never go into a topic about a game just to post something negative. He hates people who do that with a passion.

Oh wait he hasn't played the game at all? Maybe he is okay with barging in to post opinions, as long as they're not your own.
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hombad46
02/10/19 10:07:20 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I think xehanort having a terrible voice actor killed a lot of the finale for me.


Same here.

I think they should've just made Terranort the main Xehanort, especially since the entire point of Norting Terra was because his body was, in his own words, "old and brittle"
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ViviffTheMobile
02/10/19 10:08:51 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I think xehanort having a terrible voice actor killed a lot of the finale for me.


I completely agree and I dont think this gets talked about enough. They did not replace him well. Its just a guy trying to sound like him, kind of doing it sometimes, but has no passion or nuance.
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/10/19 10:34:47 PM
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eh I don't think he was terrible
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You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
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pjbasis
02/10/19 10:45:44 PM
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GANON1025
02/10/19 10:52:36 PM
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I haven't heard this replacement actor yet, has he played Xehanort in any other game? It was Nimoy in BBS and DDD right?
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/10/19 10:54:52 PM
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The Winnie the Pooh world in this game!
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You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ
JonThePenguin
02/10/19 11:02:46 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
I haven't heard this replacement actor yet, has he played Xehanort in any other game? It was Nimoy in BBS and DDD right?

Correct. New guy is Rutger Hauer, who I know has done a lot of good stuff over the years but my first thought of him is always as the head vampire in the 1992 Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie.
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GANON1025
02/10/19 11:09:59 PM
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Just finished the Big Hero 6 world. I liked it quite a bit! I think Sora had good, fun chemistry with the other characters there.
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Obellisk
02/11/19 7:44:05 AM
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Are people shitting on legendary actor Rutger Hauer?

Accidentally won the game last night. Didn't mean to start finale battle. They couldnt have given me a warning?
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BK_Sheikah00
02/11/19 9:45:25 AM
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Beated a second time. 27 hours out of 32 spent with Kingdom Key. Second Form is pretty fun, and it's satisfying to nail a boss with Ars Arcanum. Great AoE too. *end game spoilers* It was hilarious grabbing Ansem and YX with Magnet Burst.

Speaking of bosses, most of the giant Heartless were pretty clean fights. Even relying as little as possible on situation commands, magic or shotlocks. Just good ol combos. Airstep is essential though and it's the best addition to the franchise.

The only one that was still a mess was Monstropolis.
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BK_Sheikah00
02/11/19 9:55:21 AM
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Oh and for end game fights *spoilers* .I tried doing the Org fights properly and avoiding damage, but your party members are just way too strong. They interrupt boss patterns, and they can do way too much damage. The life bars go down too fast without you doing much. So a Data Org would be cool, but it's not that necessary to beef them up. Just make them 1 on 1 fights.
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Waluigi1
02/11/19 10:33:16 AM
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Rutger did a fine job. You people are just ridiculous.
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Shadow Dino
02/11/19 4:13:33 PM
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He was decent in the ending scenes. The scene before the endgame fights was atrocious.
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pjbasis
02/11/19 4:20:50 PM
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Aerith was voiced by Mena Suvari too and I love American Beauty. Doesn't mean you can't have a bad voice performance.

a BIG to be fair is I think the KH voice directing is probably the actual reason to blame for the huge unevenness in the deliveries.
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pjbasis
02/11/19 4:21:59 PM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Airstep is essential though and it's the best addition to the franchise.


I have to start incorporating this, I mostly forgot about it because I don't like shotlocks.
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foolm0r0n
02/11/19 4:35:50 PM
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They seriously did just remake the entire Let It Go in this engine
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GANON1025
02/11/19 5:49:52 PM
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Xemnas' silky smooth voice is still present, and isn't that all that really matters?
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Pirateking2000
02/11/19 5:54:53 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
Xemnas' silky smooth voice is still present, and isn't that all that really matters?


Fair enough

Ansem SoD is also nice but I will always miss Billy Zane
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/11/19 5:56:27 PM
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and don't forget Young Xehanort

they generally do a good job, there's just some very glaring misses
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colliding
02/11/19 5:58:01 PM
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rutger hauer is fine, he's just very different

overall I had no issues with the voice acting
Obellisk
02/11/19 6:12:23 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
They seriously did just remake the entire Let It Go in this engine


And it was AMAZING
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/11/19 7:59:17 PM
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hmm, so cleaning up stuff now, the Synthesis list not putting a little symbol or anything next to what you've already crafted is head-scratching. There's the Synthesis list in your Gummiphone but that means you'll have to exit out of the maker and look on your phone to see what you've made. Kind of shocked with how well they had it in previous games with keeping track of that right on the screen where you're making it.
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You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ
eaedwards6400
02/11/19 8:13:10 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
hmm, so cleaning up stuff now, the Synthesis list not putting a little symbol or anything next to what you've already crafted is head-scratching. There's the Synthesis list in your Gummiphone but that means you'll have to exit out of the maker and look on your phone to see what you've made. Kind of shocked with how well they had it in previous games with keeping track of that right on the screen where you're making it.


I took pictures on my real phone to keep track because of this issue. But you are definitely right about it being an issue.
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Shadow Dino
02/11/19 8:57:19 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Aerith was voiced by Mena Suvari too and I love American Beauty. Doesn't mean you can't have a bad voice performance.

a BIG to be fair is I think the KH voice directing is probably the actual reason to blame for the huge unevenness in the deliveries.


Something was definitely up in the voice direction. Riku has been fairly consistent VA wise since KH1 through DDD, yet there are times in KH3 where he sounds extremely wooden. I don't think David Gallagher suddenly decided he's a bad voice actor.
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Pirateking2000
02/11/19 9:59:01 PM
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So best theme from the series?

Sanctuary > Face My Fears > Simple and Clean > Don't Think Twice
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Bane_Of_Despair
02/11/19 9:59:47 PM
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Hikari >
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You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be
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Pirateking2000
02/11/19 10:00:58 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Hikari >


Well I mean that goes without saying
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Xiahou Shake
02/11/19 10:08:00 PM
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I was super lukewarm on Face My Fears from the start, mostly due to the two nails-on-chalkboard sections where Skrillex makes his presence known, but the rest of the song coupled with the animation is so damn good that it's making a run against Sanctuary for my favorite.
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pjbasis
02/11/19 10:17:42 PM
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Pirateking2000
02/11/19 10:21:59 PM
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Oh and it's time (MEGA SPOILERS obviously)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LbW-LnA4RY" data-time="

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Xiahou Shake
02/11/19 11:12:15 PM
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Pirateking2000 posted...
Oh and it's time (MEGA SPOILERS obviously)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LbW-LnA4RY" data-time="

Somehow a more epic conclusion than the actual KH3
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foolm0r0n
02/12/19 1:23:01 AM
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They really put in Sif as a boss huh

That world was... okay. Same with the scenes afterwards.

The whole game and story just feel so sterile and formulaic though. It was cool to see different worlds at the beginning but now it's really just going through the motions. There is no purpose or pathos behind anything that happens.
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