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KCF0107
03/10/19 4:50:05 AM
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Bears/Wildcats trade is official
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KCF0107
03/10/19 9:08:36 PM
354
Uh, you think the Colts and I will be winning out?

I agree with your top 4 seeds, not records obviously, but I think wild card spots right now will go to Pioneers and Ravens.

I guess you look down upon the NFC or just don't care since you aren't a part of it.
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ShatteredElysium
03/10/19 9:25:36 PM
355
I have you guys winning out because of your schedule. Will you? No you probably drop one but are you favorites for those 7 games? For sure.

Dolphins
at Jets
vs Bills
at Pumpkins
vs Redskins
vs Pioneers
vs Jets
vs Raiders

Who is beating Dolphins there? Maybe Pumpkins or Redskins or Jets on the road but gun against the head I'm taking Dolphins in all those games

Colts
at Titans
at Panthers
vs Browns
vs Pioneers
at Jets
vs Lightning
vs Bills

Again who is beating them? They are favorites in every game. They probably don't win out but on paper they are favorites I think.

For NFC, I have myself going 1-1 against NFC. I have the Ravens dropping 2 to the NFC. Broncos NFC games are Lions and Bears. Jags I have losing 1 to the NFC. Pioneers NFC game isn't a harder team

I think that basically any time there was a NFC/AFC difficult game, I almost always went with the NFC except lik Colts/Panthers
ShatteredElysium
03/10/19 9:29:26 PM
356
Basically I have Seahawks, Rams and Cowboys above most of the AFC but they don't really play against top AFC teams and when they did, I gave them the win.

Bucs I favored against AFC because of your input on them.

Panthers I didn't favor against AFC based on what you had said about them.
KCF0107
03/10/19 9:41:44 PM
357
I meant you didn't do the NFC seeding.
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ShatteredElysium
03/10/19 10:07:17 PM
358
Oh I just didn't get around to it yet. I planned on it but my company gets a suite at the Arnold Palmer Invitational so I've been there all weekend
DoubleTangicide
03/10/19 10:14:57 PM
359
that's so legit!!
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Ranlom
03/13/19 6:23:02 AM
360
At this rate, we'll never get to face Andrew Luck.
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KCF0107
03/13/19 1:25:08 PM
361
Games simmed. Summaries posted later.
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:13:49 PM
362
AI Scores

Colts 23
Titans 21

Broncos 17
Ravens 20
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:14:00 PM
363
Packers 14
Rams 13

1st Quarter
Evans 2 yard pass from Taylor

2nd Quarter
Rucker 24 yard pass from Taylor
Janikowski 53 yard FG
R. Williams 3 yard pass from Tannehill

3rd Quarter
Janikowski 25 yard FG

Notable Players
Packers QB Tyrod Taylor 6-14, 105 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 8 rushes for 71 yards
Rams OLB Jerry Hughes 6 tackles, 1 sack
Rams DE Dedrick Harrington 1 tackle, 2 sacks
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:15:22 PM
364
Wildcats 14
Browns 24

1st Quarter
Donnell 22 yard pass from Perrilloux
Melhaff 32 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Hopkins 1 yard pass from Perrilloux
S. Holmes 91 yard KR
Perrilloux 11 yard run

4th Quarter
Hogan 2 yard run

Notable Players
Browns QB Ryan Perrilloux 18-30, 140 yards, 8 rushes for 69 yards, 3 total TDs (2 pass, 1 rush)
Wildcats DT Tyson Alualu 6 tackles, 3 sacks
Browns OLB Aaron Curry 7 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:15:34 PM
365
Vikings 19
Lions 3

1st Quarter
Dawson 21 yard FG
Bironas 34 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Dawson 21 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Dawson 39 yard FG

4th Quarter
Dawson 44 yard FG
Cosby 39 yard pass from Winston

Notable Players
Lions QB E.J. Manuel 11-24, 49 yards, 1 INT (yikes!), 4 rushes for 45 yards
Vikings HB Courtney Lewis 193 total yards (143 on ground, 50 through air)
Lions HB DeAngelo Williams 130 total yards (90 on ground, 40 through air)
Vikings K Phil Dawson 4-5 FGAs
Lions MLB Gerris Wilkinson 16 tackles

Non-Manuel and Williams Lions accounted for 40 yards of offense on 21 touches
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:16:34 PM
366
Panthers 13
Cowboys 23

1st Quarter
Walker 16 yard pass from Young

2nd Quarter
Jones 27 yard FG

3rd Quarter
C. Davis 4 yard run
Gano 46 yard FG

4th Quarter
Walker 9 yard run
Jones 42 yard FG
Gano FGs of 22 and 52 yards

Notable Players
Panthers QB Matt Ryan 10-30, 138 yards, 2 INTs
Cowboys QB Vince Young 17-32, 237 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 5 rushes for 37 yards
Cowboys HB Darius Walker 125 total yards (75 on ground, 50 through air), 2 TDs
Panthers DE Luis Castillo 7 tackles, 2 sacks
Cowboys SS Troy Polamalu 12 tackles, 1 sack
Cowboys OLB Dannell Ellerbe 7 tackles, 1 sack
Cowboys MLB Danny Travathan 4 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT
Cowboys DT Ryan Walker 3 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:16:46 PM
367
Giants 21
Falcons 17

1st Quarter
Robinson 17 yard pass from Olson

2nd Quarter
Foster 3 yard pass from Rodgers
Pead 2 yard run

3rd Quarter
Lane 1 yard run

4th Quarter
Rucker 19 yard FG
Nance 11 yard pass from Olson

Notable Players
Giants QB Ben Olson 124, 122 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Giants HB Isaiah Pead 175 total yards, 1 TD
Falcons HB Arian Foster 173 total yards, 1 TD
Giants SS Jeremy Brewer 13 tackles
Giants OLB Worrell Williams 7 tackles, 1 INT
Giants OLB Barkavious Mingo tackles, 1 sack
Falcons SS Thomas Davis 5 tackles, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:17:36 PM
368
Bears 24
Chiefs 10

1st Quarter
Moreno runs of 11 and 2 yards
Alford 55 yard pass from Clauson

3rd Quarter
Blount 2 yard run
Grier 42 yard FG

4th Quarter
Aguayo 35 yard FG

Notable Players
Chiefs QB Jimmy Garoppolo 10-20, 82 yards, 2 INTs
Bears HB Knowshon Moreno 2 rush TD
Bears SS Mike Doss 7 tackles, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:17:54 PM
369
Hawks - 16
Bengals 21

1st Quarter
R. White 1 yard run

2nd Quarter
Gronkowski 2 yard pass from Palmer

3rd Quarter
Hogan 19 yard pass from Palmer
Graham 27 yard FG

4th Quarter
M. Jones 3 yard pass from Palmer
Winslow 4 yard run + failed 2 pointer

Notable Players
Hawks QB Philip Rivers 8-15, 77 yards, 2 INTs
Bengals QB Carson Palmer 25-35, 173 yards, 3 TDs, 3 INTs
Hawks HB DeMarco Murray 138 total yards, 1 fumble
Hawks P Nathan Parseghian 7 punts for 52.5 avg, 3 inside opp. 20
Hawks MLB John Abbate 8 tackles, 1 sack
Bengals MLB Kiko Alonso 7 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
Bengals OLB Spencer Adkins 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF
Bengals DE Terrell Suggs 1 tackle, 2 sacks
Bengals CB Dee Milliner 2 INTs
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:18:41 PM
370
Seahawks 27
49ers 32

1st Quarter
Nendick 31 yard FG
Scobee 40 yard FG
D. Jackson 21 yard pass from Cousins

2nd Quarter
Bernard runs of 1 and 2 yards
Scobee FGs of 49 and 52 yards

3rd Quarter
Spaeth 2 yard pass from Smith

4th Quarter
Scobee 20 yard FG
Nendick 40 yard FG
Walker 26 yard pass from Weatherford + failed 2 pointer
Hill 3 yard run

Notable Players
49ers HB Giovanni Bernard 150 total yards, 2 rush TD
Seahawks WR Steve Breaston 8 rec for 172 yards
49ers K Josh Scobee 4-4 FGAs
49ers P Steve Weatherford 3 punts for 46.3 avg, 1-1, 26 yards, 1 pass TD
49ers OLB Leroy Hill 11 tackles, 1 sack
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:18:57 PM
371
Buccaneers 24
Lightning 10

1st Quarter
Forte 5 yard run

2nd Quarter
Forte 1 yard run
Burleson 9 yard pass from Bridewater

3rd Quarter
Brown 2 yard pass from Manning

4th Quarter
Rackers 32 yard FG
Feely 22 yard FG

Notable Players
Lightning QB Eli Manning 11-23, 141 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Bucs HB Matt Forte 150 total yards, 2 rush TD, 1 fumble
Lightning DT DeMarcus Granger 1 tackle, 1 sack, 1 FF
Lightning DE Brick Massey 2 sacks, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:19:46 PM
372
Redskins 10
Pumpkins 41

1st Quarter
Hancock 1 yard run
Cooks 15 yard pass from Fitzpatrick

2nd Quarter
Patton 2 yard pass from Fitzpatrick
Moore 24 yard FG
Nugent 30 yard FG

3rd Quarter
J. Jones 16 yard pass from Flacco
Geathers 86 yard INT

4th Quarter
Moore 29 yard FG
C. Jones 21 yard FR

Notable Players
Redskins QB Joe Flacco 13-27, 193 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs
Pumpkins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick 25-37, 304 yards, 2 TD, 2 INTs
Redskins HB Markus Manson 144 total yards
Pumpkins WR Greg Lee 5 rec for 109 yards
Redskins K Mike Nugent 1-3 FGAs
Redskins OLB Connor Barwin 11 tackles, 1 INT
Redskins OLB Shaq Thompson 6 tackles, 1 INT
Redskins DE J.J. Watt 1 tackle, 1 sack, 1 FF
Pumpkins SS Clayton Geathers 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT for TD
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:20:02 PM
373
Raiders 15
Steelers 13

1st Quarter
Cundiff 40 yard FG
Carpenter 22 yard FG

2nd Quarter
Cundiff FGs of 30 and 50 yards
Carpenter 36 yard FG

3rd Quarter
Cundiff 24 yard FG

4th Quarter
McNeal 3 yard run
Cundiff 32 yard FG

Notable Players
Raiders HB R.J. Jackson 144 total yards
Steelers HB Kestahn Moore 165 total yard, 1 fumble
Raiders K Billy Cundff 5-5 FGAs
Steelers K Dan Carpenter 2-3 FGAs
Raiders MLB Mychal Kendricks 12 tackles, 1 sack
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:20:54 PM
374
Jaguars 16
Pioneers 10

1st Quarter
Ma. Clayton 1 yard pass from Wilson

2nd Quarter
Akers 53 yard FG
Kaeding 27 yard FG

4th Quarter
Akers FGs of 44 and 30 yards
Mi. Clayton 59 yard pass from Tebow with 3 seconds left in the game

Notable Players
Pioneers OLB Kamerion Wimbley 8 tackles, 2 sacks
Pioneers SS Jessie Daniels 7 tackles, 1 sack
Pioneers FS Earl Thomas 5 tackles, 1 sack
Pioneers MLB Clifton Thompson 5 tackles, 1 sack
Pioneers OLB O'Brien Schofield 4 tackles, 3 sacks
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:21:12 PM
375
Bills 10
Patriots 17

1st Quarter
McCluster 3 yard run
Nelson 3 yard pass from Carr
B. Jackson 1 yard run

2nd Quarter
Crosby 45 yard FG
Tucker 47 yard FG

Notable Players
Pats MLB Preston Stephens 7 tackles, 1 sack (slim pickings this game)
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:22:03 PM
376
Dolphins 20
Jets 10

1st Quarter
Tynes 21 yard FG
Keller 1 yard run

2nd Quarter
Brown FGs of 38 and 18 yards

3rd Quarter
Rodgers 4 yard run

4th Quarter
Whitehead 6 yard pass from Leftwich

Notable Players
Dolphins WR Kelly Campbell 8 rec for 135 yards
Dolphins MLB James Laurinaitis 6 tackles, 1 sack
Dolphins OLB Kyle Van Noy 5 tackles, 1 sack
Dolphins DT Ndamukong Suh 2 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:22:30 PM
377
Week 11 Players of the Week
Offense Titans QB Bobby Reid (290 passing yards, 3 TDs)
Defense - Bengals MLB Kiko Alonso

Week 12 User vs User Machups
Jaguars (Sultan) at Patriots (Jukkie)
Steelers (Shattered) at Bengals (Smitty)
Browns (VI) at 49ers (Scare)
Giants (Eddv) at Pumpkins (Shonen)
Bills (stevr) at Dolphins (KCF)

Game of the Week
Ravens at Seahawks

Week 12 will be (not live) simmed on Friday, March 15th
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:24:25 PM
378
I start doing the playoff pictures after Week 12, but for right now, while it is highly unrealistic that the Falcons and Patriots will make the playoffs, they will technically only be eliminated with a loss in Week 12 or wins by all six win teams in their respective conferences (barring any games where two match up).
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ScareChan
03/13/19 4:34:36 PM
379
KCF0107 posted...
Seahawks 27
49ers 32

1st Quarter
Nendick 31 yard FG
Scobee 40 yard FG
D. Jackson 21 yard pass from Cousins

2nd Quarter
Bernard runs of 1 and 2 yards
Scobee FGs of 49 and 52 yards

3rd Quarter
Spaeth 2 yard pass from Smith

4th Quarter
Scobee 20 yard FG
Nendick 40 yard FG
Walker 26 yard pass from Weatherford + failed 2 pointer
Hill 3 yard run

Notable Players
49ers HB Giovanni Bernard 150 total yards, 2 rush TD
Seahawks WR Steve Breaston 8 rec for 172 yards
49ers K Josh Scobee 4-4 FGAs
49ers P Steve Weatherford 3 punts for 46.3 avg, 1-1, 26 yards, 1 pass TD
49ers OLB Leroy Hill 11 tackles, 1 sack

Was this really my punter Weatherford, because I have a qb Weatherford as well
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KCF0107
03/13/19 4:36:40 PM
380
Oh shit, you're right. It makes far more sense for it to be Drew.
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ScareChan
03/13/19 4:37:54 PM
381
I would be ecstatic with Steve fake punting in a touch down, but 26 yards is unlikely for a punt
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Eddv
03/13/19 5:06:07 PM
382
Holy crap we won.

Time to go on a run to make the playoffs and screw over my draft stock.
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profDEADPOOL
03/13/19 5:29:21 PM
383
Well that isn't a great start to Luck's career with the Wildcats
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KCF0107
03/13/19 5:36:27 PM
384
He didn't turn the ball over though!
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Jukkie
03/13/19 5:47:50 PM
385
Lol I win a game, and lose my QB. Madden hates me.
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KCF0107
03/13/19 5:50:03 PM
386
I think with two SB wins, Madden likes you just fine. Another certain user who joined the same time as you on the other hand...
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ScareChan
03/13/19 5:53:36 PM
387
I get to see how bernard does with cam starting next week I suppose
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ShatteredElysium
03/13/19 5:57:33 PM
388
I think that with those results it completely flips my predictions as I think I had Broncos beating Ravens and Steelers beating Raiders. I'll check in a bit.

Also will look at NFC today.

I had been hoping for a win today but I knew it would be a tough one. That could be the difference between division winner and fringe playoff. We will see. Good to see the AFC North isn't complete trash this year though, looks to be on the up.

Oh wow, looking at the result I see that I lost purely via field goals too. They only scored field goals but scored 5 of them and I also missed a result changing field goal too.
profDEADPOOL
03/13/19 6:19:20 PM
389
KCF0107 posted...
He didn't turn the ball over though!

True, but not even having enough stats to be in the notable players via good stats isn't great either.
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TheSultanOfSlam
03/13/19 6:39:26 PM
390
KCF0107 posted...
Mi. Clayton 59 yard pass from Tebow with 3 seconds left in the game


Wow Clutch!
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Ranlom
03/14/19 2:30:41 AM
391
Jimmy was due for a game like this.

If i knew the division would be so vulnerable this year, i might've made some cuts and signed some new talent.
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MysteriousStan
03/14/19 6:45:54 PM
392
Ranlom posted...
At this rate, we'll never get to face Andrew Luck.

Huh, any particular reason that you want to face Luck so bad?

Holding a very good offense to 10 points, I'll take it. Bet we gave up a ton of yards but the win is nice. Luck threw like 160ish yards his last two games combined for the Bears and Clauson reached a third of that with one TD pass...good start so far!
KCF0107
03/14/19 7:09:50 PM
393
Ranlom famously, in my mind, took I want to say HB Blount over Luck in the draft because he refused to employ the latter. I assume Ranlom is a Chiefs fan and hates Luck for that Colts comeback in the playoffs many seasons ago.
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Ranlom
03/15/19 12:08:19 AM
394
KCF0107 posted...
I assume Ranlom is a Chiefs fan and hates Luck for that Colts comeback in the playoffs many seasons ago.

I root for a lot of teams after my Packers, but oy, that game was tough to watch. That entire first half I was trolling friends and family about how terrible Luck was.

But as you said it's more that i skipped over him, and feel connected to him in some way. I certainly remember you were bummed i didn't grab him. Think i also passed on Russell Wilson, but i could do with never facing him again...
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KCF0107
03/15/19 7:41:23 AM
395
Games have been simmed, but there's a decent chance that summaries won't be posted and spreadsheet updated until tomorrow or Monday due to unexpected issues.
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Ranlom
03/15/19 8:51:44 AM
396
Don't like the sound of that. Hope everything's okay.
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KCF0107
03/15/19 9:37:33 AM
397
It's just a laptop issue. I bought a new one last summer, but I use my old one for B8NFLL and a few other things. As I was about to type up stuff, the T and Y keys did not register. If it isn't a temporary issue, then I will have to start using my newer laptop, which is fine.
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KCF0107
03/15/19 5:26:58 PM
398
In lieu of game summaries today, I will post who won in spoilers for the impatient. I went division by division since I am doing this in my head.

Raiders
Jets
Bills
Steelers
Jaguars
Pioneers
Titans
Seahawks
49ers
Wildcats
Cowboys
Pumpkins
Vikings
Bears
Panthers
Buccaneers


That should be 16 teams
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ShatteredElysium
03/15/19 6:33:13 PM
399
I have clicked the spoilers therefore I will spoiler these and then go more in depth after summaries posted

AFC Predictions
1. Dolphins
2. Colts
3. Ravens
4. Broncos
5. Jaguars
6. Steelers

----- (I am unsure who has the tiebreaker between 5 and 6)
7. Raiders
8. Pioneers
9. Jets
10. Bills


NFC Predictions
1. Cowboys
2. Seahawks
3. Buccaneers (extra text so it's not obvious)
4. Vikings (Lord this one is tough)
5. Panthers (extra text so it's not obvious)
6. Rams

---- (I am unsure who has the tiebreaker between 3 and 5)
7. Pumpkins
8. Redskins
9. Lions


Least I think that's what I will have anyway. NFC North is going to be super close and I actually think an unlisted team in my list potentially has a shot at it.

Oh and I will say I really wanted to put the Pumpkins in but then I looked at their schedule and I was like oh...probably 1 win short.

Also that Rams run-in is brutal, 5 road games and against some tough teams.
theawesomestevr
03/15/19 11:17:09 PM
400
GO BILLS!
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KCF0107
03/16/19 12:02:13 AM
401
My mom is coming to visit me, so there is a non-zero chance game summaries won't be up until Monday, though I have them all typed up.

Apparently offline Google edits are not tied to an account but a device, so I might hold off on updating the spreadsheet until after Week 15.
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ShatteredElysium
03/16/19 9:44:22 AM
402
I can't make the league leaders or injuries sheet any easier for you to update but I'm pretty sure I can make the standings page slightly easier for you if you want.

I think by using countif formulas I can get it to auto-update the win loss records of each team. You would just need to enter the W or L or T next to each result. Then sort or drag the the standings afterwards.

It's possible to have the sheet auto-sort standings but it would be a script via add-on and can't be manually overwritten and since it wouldn't know tiebreakers it would create more problems than it solves.
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