Board 8 > Umineko Theatregoing Topic *unmarked spoilers for the whole series*

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Raka_Putra
01/18/19 6:02:50 PM
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So here it is, to spectate at Dels' ongoing playthrough topic
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77345670

There's also Kira and Arria's playthrough topic to check out, but spoilers are ok there! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/post?board=8&topic=76564559

Here are some good quotes from Dels.

Dels posted...
nevermind, shannon can't have this bad taste in men. she's the villain, and she's manipulating him. that must be it.


Dels posted...
LOL. eva basically already acts like i'd expect a witch to act


Dels posted...
2) Shannon: I don't know how Shannon got this high. There's just nothing explicitly ruling her out like the others. It's not impossible that she's just pretending to be a sweet naive clumsy girl, and she actually has some evil plan to infiltrate the manor and steal the inheritance money. Tbh, I don't think any servant has as much of a motive as family members. Maybe she should be lower. Oh well.


Dels posted...

Characters who will live the entire game
George - He's the main villain, so he's not dying any time soon
Jessica - Like I said, she will be our main problem solver who takes charge in investigations. She's living the entire game.
Battler - I don't think he's going to die, I can see a sort of growth/maturity arc. Could be wrong though.
Kanon - As I said, undergoing a massive development arc.

Three out of five ain't so bad.
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Reg
01/18/19 6:05:55 PM
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Can you really call it "will live the entire game" though
Raka_Putra
01/18/19 6:10:25 PM
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lol yeah I forgot he doesn't know yet about the Umineko structure.
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NowItsAngeTime
01/18/19 6:24:53 PM
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It's still crazy to me to Umineko STILL gets readthrough topics till this day
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Raka_Putra
01/18/19 6:28:14 PM
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Episode 8 turns 8 years old on December 31st last year. Though I don't remember when the English patch came out...2013 or something?
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/18/19 7:06:11 PM
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Raka_Putra posted...
lol yeah I forgot he doesn't know yet about the Umineko structure.


Yeah, I'm excited for everyone to start dropping like flies and things to get meta. Got me all kinds of confused when I was first exposed to Umineko.
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Tom Bombadil
01/18/19 7:21:15 PM
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Dels posted...
yeah that's what they're going for they're like "oh she's exactly the same as when she was 3, she acts really childlike, she always talks like she's younger than she is"

this is clearly an indication that something is going on, a 9-year old shouldn't be the same as a 3-year old


true, I guess

Also I always forget how much boob stuff there is at the beginning because IIRC it doesn't really show up again ever.

Dels posted...
If Kumasawa is actually Beatrice's mother, you heard it here first. I called it.


close...enough...?

First impressions of Kanon are pretty good too.

Battler is very... unprotagonist-like. He doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to solve a mystery, much less doing any investigating.


Kihihihihi. He goes on to talk about Jessica taking over as protag, which heck, sign me up.

He's pretty good! Am looking forward to the tea party.
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WickIebee
01/18/19 7:25:55 PM
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Oh, man this topic shall be entertaining. While you can't follow it, Scar, Ermine, JONA and I have a group watch/readthrough due to a YT topic. Ermy and I have read the whole thing, JONA read somewhat through Episode 3, maybe all of it and a little of four before he quit, Scar's the one that's doing it blind.

Rudolf is Scar's favorite character, and we reached Episode 3 before Christmas, we only do it on Mondays, so plenty of busy days, haven't gotten to the first twilight. Can't wait to see his excitement to see his favorite character surviving the first night.

This also helps me talk to @Zigzagoon
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/18/19 7:28:13 PM
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Rudolf is the man. You can't help but love him.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 3:55:30 AM
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Dels posted...
how could kyrie die?!

she was so mysterious!

she had tons of unexplored depth!

and she was set up as a mentor type!


Dels posted...
how is kyrie dead?! she didn't fit any of the characteristics of someone who dies early in a game! she had gotten no development, and she... she had white hair! characters with white hair are mysterious and have secrets!


I love how much he likes Kyrie. I really, really can't wait for her to show her true colors. Terrible human being.
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Raka_Putra
01/19/19 6:17:20 AM
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That's still 6 episodes away so it'll be a while lol.

And by then most people already forgot about Kyrie.
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Eerieka
01/19/19 6:27:12 AM
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Arria finished Ep 5 and still has a huge crush on Kyrie lol.
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Raka_Putra
01/19/19 6:29:26 AM
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Ganon continues his LP, just starting EP7 now.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77401410#19
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 8:53:52 AM
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also this means kinzo officially manages to be only the 7th person to die, at the very least


well...

This all feels very convoluted.


It has net yet begun to convolute! Considered telling him that but decided against it.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 5:32:20 PM
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Dels posted...
...Kinzo was acting very out of character at the time. Is it possible that wasn't actually Kinzo, but... the witch pretending to be him...?! No... that can't be right. It must have been Kinzo.


Oh my. Not quite right, but thinking on the right track here. Nice.
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 6:40:25 PM
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Dels WOULD put it past Kinzo I guess
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Reg
01/19/19 6:42:54 PM
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Let's see if he still would when ep 4 rolls around =)
WickIebee
01/19/19 7:22:50 PM
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Dels posted...
An idea: The two who get torn apart: Two people will die who seem to have no connection at all, and part of the investigation will be figuring out if those two were somehow close after all.


LOL

This was great.
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Sceptilesolar
01/19/19 7:28:26 PM
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Dels is thinking like Danganronpa, where each murder is a discrete mystery to solve. Don't think he's familiar at all with the structure of classic mysteries.
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Team Rocket Elite
01/19/19 7:40:40 PM
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He said earlier that he hasn't read any standard murder mysteries and hasn't read any English murder mystery novels outside of a few during school. I assume he hasn't played Higurashi either.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 7:53:13 PM
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This is getting really good. Can't wait for all the fantastical stuff to start happening.
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Sceptilesolar
01/19/19 8:17:58 PM
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Battler says "Before tonight's over, I'll be gripping you by the collar...!!" about the killer

He previously gripped Kanon by the collar? Foreshadowing...?

Haha yeah I forgot about this one. Very cheeky ryukishi
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 8:25:02 PM
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These murders are all impossible for a human! The only explanation possible is that it is Beatrice's magic~~~
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 8:26:04 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
These murders are all impossible for a human! The only explanation possible is that it is Beatrice's magic~~~


I keep wanting to post that a witch did it with magic. But I feel that I'd be overstepping. Best to just let him read I think.
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 8:26:53 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
These murders are all impossible for a human! The only explanation possible is that it is Beatrice's magic~~~


I keep wanting to post that a witch did it with magic. But I feel that I'd be overstepping. Best to just let him read I think.


I went so far as typing out "Ahhhh, it's useless!" before deleting it just to be safe.
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 8:27:40 PM
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actually I am super impressed that nobody has posted anything dumb in the topic yet

I am probably the worst offender so far with the bit about the rose not being relevant :D
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 8:29:17 PM
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I don't think the rose bit is that bad. It's nothing important at all, and I take spoilers REALLY seriously.
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 8:30:12 PM
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Yep! My point is, if that's the worst thing anybody's posted, we're in good shape.

I like how he wants to know if he got a bad end
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 8:31:48 PM
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Is there even anything he COULD have done to get a bad end? I'm pretty sure the only time you can actually input things is really late into the game.
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WickIebee
01/19/19 8:56:07 PM
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Dels is like breaking down by the seams. Poor guy. Wish we could tell him that it resets after every episode, but alas, better to leave him blind otherwise he might abandon the topic.
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Tom Bombadil
01/19/19 9:01:52 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
I'm pretty sure the only time you can actually input things is really late into the game.


This is correct- there's the quiz section that doesn't really matter, and the really telegraphed one choice that matters right at the end.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/19/19 9:42:35 PM
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Dels posted...
...Is this an anthology series...? Is chapter 2 just about 18 different people on some other island with no relation to chapter 1...? When will chapter 1 end?!


Colder

Dels posted...
Could... could... could each chapter take place from a different character's point of view, going over the same events again?!

...Nope, that doesn't make any sense.


Warmer
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JeffreyRaze
01/20/19 12:57:23 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
Popcorn_Fairy posted...
I'm pretty sure the only time you can actually input things is really late into the game.


This is correct- there's the quiz section that doesn't really matter, and the really telegraphed one choice that matters right at the end.


Also the one murder mystery you actually get to solve.
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Reg
01/20/19 9:44:33 PM
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Dels posted...

I like that the game doesn't railroad you into the basic explanations like those other visual novels do - it gives you tons of possibilities, and everything can be wifom. But. I genuinely need Battler to take some solving time. Remind me of people's alibis. Remind me where everyone was when Kanon died. When the symbol appeared on the door. Overnight. When Eva/Hideyoshi died. Etc. Walk me through who my suspects are. Give me something tangible. Because with so much intangible, I can't even begin to try to solve.

We haven't had a logic/solving scene since Kyrie's scene and then the Eva/Natsuhi duel, and that wasn't even about a murder. Basically what I'm saying is, give me the equivalent of a trial/class trial. I need it. Walk me through some things, Umineko, please.

I really, really want to give Dels the encouragement that these scenes are coming, and in a much better format than Danganronpa/Phoenix Wright.

But I won't. Especially since they're not coming until after he finishes Ep 1.
JeffreyRaze
01/20/19 9:52:52 PM
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I'm looking forward to his reactions to the first tea party. Ending chapter one with literally nothing solved is a trip and a half, haha
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/20/19 10:01:47 PM
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Reg posted...
Dels posted...

I like that the game doesn't railroad you into the basic explanations like those other visual novels do - it gives you tons of possibilities, and everything can be wifom. But. I genuinely need Battler to take some solving time. Remind me of people's alibis. Remind me where everyone was when Kanon died. When the symbol appeared on the door. Overnight. When Eva/Hideyoshi died. Etc. Walk me through who my suspects are. Give me something tangible. Because with so much intangible, I can't even begin to try to solve.

We haven't had a logic/solving scene since Kyrie's scene and then the Eva/Natsuhi duel, and that wasn't even about a murder. Basically what I'm saying is, give me the equivalent of a trial/class trial. I need it. Walk me through some things, Umineko, please.

I really, really want to give Dels the encouragement that these scenes are coming, and in a much better format than Danganronpa/Phoenix Wright.

But I won't. Especially since they're not coming until after he finishes Ep 1.


Me too. I keep wanting to say, but It's best to just let him read.
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Reg
01/20/19 10:04:48 PM
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oh good he actually figured it out

Even if he's not dead certain it's what's going to happen
Popcorn_Fairy
01/20/19 10:57:58 PM
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Dels posted...
So unless there really is a witch...


jCxYLEe
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/20/19 11:07:08 PM
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Dels posted...
...And there we go?

Natsuhi... encounters Beatrice in human form...

and shoots...?!

Is Beatrice really... real after all?!

But... she can't be.

The whole point of a murder mystery is... one of the 18 did it, and made it look like a witch!

This is... impossible!


Channeling his inner Battler I see.
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JeffreyRaze
01/20/19 11:45:16 PM
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He really is, isn't he?
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/21/19 12:19:52 AM
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Dels posted...
Now, I'm going to accept that this game has an unreliable narrator. Perhaps, when we see character's PoVs, and we learn their "inner thoughts", it is just the narrator projecting what they think the character's inner thoughts must be.

I don't think I can clear people out from being the mastermind just because their inner thoughts show real confusion/emotion. It can't be that simple.


Oh, good job my man.
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Raka_Putra
01/21/19 6:49:48 AM
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Yeah, the award to 'Most Battler-like LP' goes to Dels hahaha.
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JeffreyRaze
01/22/19 2:39:55 PM
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2) Kyrie: (Up 9 spots) I am a very simple person. All you need to do is ... not be an a******

A shame this won't come up for a looong time, haha
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WickIebee
01/22/19 3:17:42 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Reg posted...
Dels posted...

I like that the game doesn't railroad you into the basic explanations like those other visual novels do - it gives you tons of possibilities, and everything can be wifom. But. I genuinely need Battler to take some solving time. Remind me of people's alibis. Remind me where everyone was when Kanon died. When the symbol appeared on the door. Overnight. When Eva/Hideyoshi died. Etc. Walk me through who my suspects are. Give me something tangible. Because with so much intangible, I can't even begin to try to solve.

We haven't had a logic/solving scene since Kyrie's scene and then the Eva/Natsuhi duel, and that wasn't even about a murder. Basically what I'm saying is, give me the equivalent of a trial/class trial. I need it. Walk me through some things, Umineko, please.

I really, really want to give Dels the encouragement that these scenes are coming, and in a much better format than Danganronpa/Phoenix Wright.

But I won't. Especially since they're not coming until after he finishes Ep 1.


Me too. I keep wanting to say, but It's best to just let him read.


It is so hard to not try and say something. But I'm refraining so much. Like especially his stuff about Gohda right now, where at least he'll show some competence next episode.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/22/19 5:33:32 PM
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Dels posted...
2) Kyrie: (Up 9 spots) I am a very simple person. All you need to do is have white hair, be smart, not be an asshole, and most importantly, do your best Mia Fey impersonation, and you make it into my good books. Spin that chess board!


Yeah, but Kyrie is like the Queen Asshole. Out of everyone, she's the most terrible person of all.
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Team Rocket Elite
01/22/19 5:57:34 PM
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He is so adamant that Beatrice doesn't exist that she doesn't even make his character ranking. >_>
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/22/19 5:58:07 PM
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Raka_Putra
01/22/19 7:46:35 PM
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I wonder if he'll be as broken as Battler at the end of EP2.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/22/19 7:59:51 PM
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I can only hope so.
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Tom Bombadil
01/23/19 6:27:42 AM
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The anti-magic toxin is strong with this one.
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