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ninkendo
04/24/19 2:16:40 PM
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ninkendo
04/24/19 4:14:28 PM
#402:


Overall AI health has been reduced in towers of time

Unblockable modifiers are now blockable

Those were adjusted server side and didn't need a patch

An actual patch in the works to address kurrency rewards and modifier values and that should be out the end of this week/early next week
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ninkendo
04/24/19 4:19:03 PM
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Players also getting the following

500,000 koins
500 hearts
1000 souls
1000 time krystals
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 4:24:53 PM
#404:


Netherrealm is pretty awesome tbh.
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HashtagSEP
04/24/19 4:26:34 PM
#405:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Netherrealm is pretty awesome tbh.


The chat and MK11 board seem to not think so

It seems like nobody actually wants to play the game. They just want everything unlocked in one day to say they did it.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 5:02:04 PM
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I get the issues and why people are upset, especially since the unlockables are almost totally random. It's more or less glorified lootboxes and difficult to get what you want. And the towers did sound like absolute bullshit from what I heard. They're at least trying to make it right. I can't fault them for that. Especially trying to make it right just two days after release.
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TheRock1525
04/24/19 5:15:19 PM
#407:


I mean wasn't SSBU pretty random and literally had only 10 characters to start?
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 5:38:36 PM
#408:


Yeah, but this is like thousands of customizable stuff and art and other things.

So you could draw over a hundred things and never get something for your favorite character.
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ninkendo
04/24/19 5:39:15 PM
#409:


this is a good time for my favorite character to be the random button
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 5:42:38 PM
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I thought your favorite character was a trophy.
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StealThisSheen
04/24/19 5:45:54 PM
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They probably did it since in previous iterations when the krypt locations were static, people only got stuff for their character and didn't see 90% of what it had to offer, then complained there wasn't enough to do/called krypt a waste

People kinda brought this one on themselves
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Xiahou Shake
04/24/19 5:51:21 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
They probably did it since

They did it because Warner Bros wants that $$$ and told them to. You'll almost never see devs making these kinds of moves for any other reason. This was pretty clearly a play to see how far they could push things, and now that they've received the (likely anticipated) backlash, they've "heard" us and are dialing it down to an only-kind-of-offensive level. Standard play.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 5:56:12 PM
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Yeah, it feels a bit eggregious this time around. I actually don't mind it too much, and I am normally not in a huge hurry to unlock the specific things I want, but I get the frustration involved.

I think the part that really hurts is that getting enough currency to go through all the randomness is a bit of a grind.
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Team Rocket Elite
04/24/19 6:35:58 PM
#414:


TheRock1525 posted...
I mean wasn't SSBU pretty random and literally had only 10 characters to start?


That can be done in a few hours if you are dedicated to it. Also WoL provided an alternate non-random way to unlock characters.

A closer comparison would probably be custom moves in SSB4 and people did complain about that. Even then there are only a few hundred (but you can get duplicates).
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paperwarior
04/24/19 9:37:28 PM
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The extreme of unlockables is something like JoJo All-Star Battle, where it's just totally disproportionate to how much anyone would want to play the game. SSB4 was also a pain in the ass due to RNG and poor design.
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paperwarior
04/24/19 9:39:02 PM
#416:


I played MKX and Injustice 2 a ton, though. I don't mind having some time-sink-ness. That's part of why I bought the game despite having some misgivings about gameplay.
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v_charon
04/24/19 9:52:52 PM
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These same people would happily put 80 hours into a RPG to unlock everything is the sad part. I don't think a game's features are required to be available based on the genre of the game.
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ninkendo
04/24/19 10:04:53 PM
#418:


Story mode beated

Those last 2 chapters were the best
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theawesomestevr
04/24/19 10:30:01 PM
#419:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean wasn't SSBU pretty random and literally had only 10 characters to start?


That can be done in a few hours if you are dedicated to it. Also WoL provided an alternate non-random way to unlock characters.

A closer comparison would probably be custom moves in SSB4 and people did complain about that. Even then there are only a few hundred (but you can get duplicates).

It's actually just a set order regardless of which method you choose and not random. The order characters unlock depends on which character you used to complete Classic mode, the path you chose to unlock them in WoL, or lastly there's just a set order for all characters if you unlock them via the time method.

SSBU also has almost triple the number of characters as MK 11, and no micro-transactions are involved in the base game. I don't have MK 11, but it sounds like the unlock system would be far more time-consuming without paying extra with no guarantees you get what you're looking for.

Oh, and also, you start with the base 8 characters from the original SSB in Ultimate btw.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/24/19 10:33:09 PM
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I'm at the Scorpion solo chapter now. I'll probably finish story mode tomorrow. I really enjoy it though.

I'm getting a lot more character stuff in this game than the previous one, which helps a lot for enjoyment. I'm getting a serious sense though of "Why are these characters even here?" for some people though.
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ninkendo
04/24/19 10:48:30 PM
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ninkendo
04/24/19 10:49:03 PM
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hopped online now since i don't want to do any tower or krypt stuff until the patch

started with a 4 game win streak in king of the hill oh how I enjoy first week of fighting games online
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MoogleKupo141
04/24/19 11:07:58 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I'm at the Scorpion solo chapter now. I'll probably finish story mode tomorrow. I really enjoy it though.

I'm getting a lot more character stuff in this game than the previous one, which helps a lot for enjoyment. I'm getting a serious sense though of "Why are these characters even here?" for some people though.


I'm only on chapter three but I'm getting the "why aren't these characters here?" sense right now

do they ever address why specific characters made the time jump? specifically Mileena not showing up with the other bad guys is really bothering me
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ninkendo
04/24/19 11:25:50 PM
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MrGreenonion
04/24/19 11:52:13 PM
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yo this always online stuff is bullshit

i mean it is in every game but I'm playing on switch so it's double extra bullshit

whenever the console goes to sleep mode i lose my connection and can't get it back without quitting and relaunching the game

and if that happens in the middle of a klassic tower it quits to the main menu

this is one thing if it's my ps4 which lives in my house with my cable internet

but this is my switch and sometimes it takes the bus

plus the correct brightness settings for handheld and docked mode are very different and the game simply does not care
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ninkendo
04/24/19 11:57:04 PM
#426:


seems like a lot of people are regretting getting the Switch version

I'm still surprised it runs smoothly at all, but yeah not the ideal platform for a game that requires an online check
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ninkendo
04/24/19 11:58:06 PM
#427:


meanwhile here's me on PS4 Pro denying anyone with a wifi connection
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ninkendo
04/25/19 4:33:54 PM
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ninkendo
04/25/19 4:49:08 PM
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just happened again in the middle of fatal blow. It had a different animation than just the character blowing up a stalagmite came from the ceiling and impaled them

KPMY4bM
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v_charon
04/25/19 8:17:35 PM
#430:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I'm at the Scorpion solo chapter now. I'll probably finish story mode tomorrow. I really enjoy it though.

I'm getting a lot more character stuff in this game than the previous one, which helps a lot for enjoyment. I'm getting a serious sense though of "Why are these characters even here?" for some people though.


The roster is less determined by the overall story than it is by the public desire for certain characters, and comparing the roster to that of the previous game or two. Generally speaking, it's not hard to predict a MK roster to a certain degree.
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GANON1025
04/25/19 8:43:33 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/27/19 12:33:20 AM
#432:


So, my thoughts on Story Mode now that I finished.

Overall, I enjoyed it. It still felt exceedingly lacking though.

I'll try to do the positives first:

Interactions were great. I loved all the interactions, actually. They did a great job with that. The animations and whatnot were really good too. I could watch all the cutscenes over again and still really enjoy it. The characters all had a ton of personality and were enjoyable.

Unfortunately, I need to go to the negatives now.

- It all boils down to the ending, really. Everything gets erased. So what was the point of this storyline if everything is reset at the end except for Liu Kang, Raiden, and Kitana? There's no potential here because it can literally just be anything right now.
- Speaking of potential, everything is reset. Why didn't you just start killing more people left and right? Just straight up murder EVERYONE.
- Why is it that Raiden basically solos all the side villains of the story at the end? I feel like it would have been more meaningful if anyone but him did it.
- Liu Kang's god form... I mean, I heard about this and while it's pretty cool, I think it is a cheap kind of cop out here. I don't know how else you beat Kronika though.
- And Kronika. Not particularly compelling. She seemed simultaneously overpowered to the point she should conceivably never really lose to being so totally not in control. If she can just show up, freeze time, and teleport people at whim, why not just do that to everyone?
- Kitana beating Shao Khan was pretty awesome. I know people seem to be upset about it, and I feel like it deserved a hell of a lot more build up than it got, but it was a good scene and frankly overdue for her to finally take back the throne. Her killing blow seems to be understated by most. She literally gashed his face in. The dude is not surviving that, even if he already took a fist through the chest.
- What is with them completely ditching the story they set up for this game? The first chapter is just all about getting rid of Dark Raiden and the Revenant Rulers. I presume they had another story in mind, but it feels like kind of a waste to just do this for a, frankly, overwrought Kronika story.
- If you are doing time travel, why aren't we just going absolutely insane with it? I can accept certain people not being brought back due to Kronika thinking it would upset her plan as she's seen a ton of variations (can't have that damn Reptile ruining her scheme somehow!), but you know what would make this better? Give us one hundred Kanos. Have a bunch of Johnny Cages. Smother us with this silly nonsense since that's what this story really is.
- There is absolutely nothing to almost all of these villains. Geras is just a giant husk without anything. Kollector gets barely anything except a minor backstory. Kabal barely gets anything. Noob gets nothing. Skarlet gets absolutely no explanation for why she is the way she is now. Frost and Baraka get some, but it doesn't particularly feel great.
- Characters disappearing halfway through the story was just odd. Why write out Kotal, Sonya, and Johnny like that? Them not being at the end felt off.
- Jade felt wasted in this too. Jade being a random Revanant while being missing from the last game is a disappointment. She could have had a more key, unique role because of that. I never got used to her new outfit though. At least make it more green or something.


So yeah, tl;dr is that it was very nice to look at and fun to go through, but has a ton that's lacking in it. Worth playing through though.
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/27/19 12:38:09 PM
#433:


Been playing tons of my boy Noob.

I desperately need to unlock at least a different victory pose for him so his shadow isn't just holding him up like an angry baby between rounds. Who thought of that one?
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ninkendo
04/27/19 12:54:24 PM
#434:


I just have AI battles running 24/7 when I'm not playing towers of time myself.

and then even when I get tired of towers of time I let AI noob with focus on kombos and reversals take over because he can beat 99% of those fights on his own.

Makes the Koin grind not bad at all at that point it really is on the same level as MKX
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/27/19 1:00:25 PM
#435:


Yeah, I rigged together something for my PS4 controller and a massager I own to grind endless battles. Lol not sure how hardcore I'll go with that though.
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ninkendo
04/27/19 1:04:56 PM
#436:


oh yeah I just I have a turbo controller for that

I livestream it so I can watch it while I'm at work
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GANON1025
04/27/19 6:45:55 PM
#437:


I hope I can become as good at Kitana as my AI is.
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ninkendo
04/27/19 8:07:51 PM
#438:


At the rate I'm going I could see myself with the platinum by Monday or Tuesday

Really all depends on how lucky I get in the krypt with getting taunts and victory poses
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ninkendo
04/27/19 8:09:23 PM
#439:


And also whenever the tower of time spawns another boss tower that requires 3 people to work together because I missed the last one
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/28/19 1:49:57 PM
#440:


Tried out Kano. He's fun, but feels weird to play a bit. But everything he does is so satisfyingly scummy that I love it. Not sure if I'll keep playing him, since Noob feels the best to me right now.

I need to try more of Kitana and Jade though. Also dabbled in trying out Kollector, Shao Kahn, and Jacqui.

Who is everyone playing?
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ninkendo
04/28/19 1:53:24 PM
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v_charon
04/28/19 1:57:37 PM
#442:


Noob caught my attention, for whatever reason. He's never been a top favorite for me, just sort of a upper midcarder sort but he's really the only thing I've even tried to learn so far and I've stuck with him. Until Shang Tsung is out anyway.
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GANON1025
04/28/19 2:50:36 PM
#443:


I need to try out more Cetrion. I love zoners in these games and she seems like she could be a good one.
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ninkendo
04/28/19 11:43:21 PM
#444:


oh ya finally into that top 5% for the towers of time. Now to just maintain it until the timer is up

I still personally think the complaints on the difficulty is overblown, but I've been playing MK games all my life and I feel this is how its always been
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MoogleKupo141
04/29/19 1:35:14 AM
#445:


I feel like they really missed an opportunity with the Johnny Cage chapter by not making it a team-up chapter that has you choose between old and young Johnny.
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ninkendo
04/29/19 4:52:01 PM
#446:


pretty much to the point where I no longer need koins, just souls and hearts to finish up the Krypt

probably time to switch from towers of time to just survival and endless towers for my AI while i play my 3DS
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ninkendo
04/29/19 6:43:54 PM
#447:


Patch 1.03 is up

I assume this has the free rewards
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ninkendo
04/29/19 7:34:05 PM
#448:


now you get 3 hearts for fatalities and 5 hearts for brutalities

still only 10 souls per win though
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ninkendo
04/29/19 9:12:24 PM
#449:


oh and koin rewards got a 25% bump so if a tower gave 50K now it gives 62,500
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PrivateBiscuit1
04/30/19 9:20:21 AM
#450:


I feel like I unlocked like half of the Krypt with what I got from the bonus stuff they gave us.

I've been able to get into playing Jade a lot more though. Still not sure what moveset I want to use for her. There is nothing more satisfying in this game though than hitting her Brutality What Would Mileena Do? It is, as you might guess, way too much. She also has so many good combos and all of them look cool and are really effective, so it becomes a pain to memorize them.

So new question: Anyone have any good variation names? Mine are:

Noob - BFFs
Shao Khan - The Hammer Is My
Jade - Blasian Saddles

Still need a good one for Kano.
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