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Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:23:52 AM
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SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
are people really still spreading the locking jaw myth

I'm only going off of data. Either there needs to be more oversight on who gets a pitbull or they need to be culled as a breed

fuck off with your genocide bullshit

it's not genocide. it's a call to "we should REALLY fucking do something about this" arms

why dont you go against the owners then. your ignorance and hypocrisy is pissing me off

I'm not ignorant nor hypacritical

yes, you are both.

prove it
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kingdrake2
01/11/19 11:23:53 AM
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i'm having plenty of good years with my dog who is a pitbull. sure loves to eat food and go for walks. i try to feed her only the best i could afford: Chicken Jerky and costco brand blue buffalo dog food.

i'm just glad i was able to keep her for the entire time. nearly lost her when i had to move into the city when the dog was 2 years old.
only con: i can't trust other dogs around her, people are the only ones she will tolerate or even seek attention from.
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Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:25:52 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
i'm having plenty of good years with my dog who is a pitbull. sure loves to eat food and go for walks. i try to feed her only the best i could afford: Chicken Jerky and costco brand blue buffalo dog food.

i'm just glad i was able to keep her for the entire time. nearly lost her when i had to move into the city when the dog was 2 years old.

okay so you're cool enough to deal with it. what you don't understand is you are FORCING everyone else to deal with it
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SSJCAT
01/11/19 11:26:51 AM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...

prove it

in this very thread, you have spread misinformation, you have fed in to the stigma against the pitbull breed, then you admitted that its the owners that are shitty, but then you continued to stigmatize the breed after admitting that
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Cleo_II
01/11/19 11:28:14 AM
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They have a natural instinct to attack smaller creatures. Which basically means smaller animals and children.

My dad was out going to the grocery store a month ago. He and his wife have this little poodle. His wife got out of the car and set her down. At the same time, a woman was getting out of the car next to them with her pitbull. That dog immediately attacked my dads dog unprovoked. It was badly injured, requiring several stitches. The pitbull owner was in shock. They kept claiming their dog had never attacked anyone, cried over the incident and paid for the vet bill. That poodle could have been a small kid.

Pitbulls arent the only breed like that though but they get the worst rap because they seem to attack more than the others or maybe cause more deaths with the same number of attacks.

I wouldnt own one personally.
Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:30:13 AM
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SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...

prove it

in this very thread, you have spread misinformation, you have fed in to the stigma against the pitbull breed, then you admitted that its the owners that are shitty, but then you continued to stigmatize the breed after admitting that

all you have responded with are fallacies
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kingjeremy
01/11/19 11:35:02 AM
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They're a large dog capable of hurting most adults and any child. They snap frequently enough to make most people nervous. The statistics on this are clear.

This is combined with the fact that the breed only attracts bad people as owners.

It's a real double whammy.

I was attacked by one 8 years ago. It ran up from behind me and just grabbed onto my hand. The dog didn't bark, and I was simply walking on the street, so I certainly wasn't expecting it. I was able to pull my hand free and turn. Once we were looking at each other it started growling. Then, the owner grabbed it. I probably should have reported it. Mistake on my part.
SSJCAT
01/11/19 11:37:29 AM
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i was viciously attacked and almost killed by an ex cop german shepherd. the only reason im alive is because i managed to get a chokehold on it while it was the biting the shit out of me everywhere until it finally passed out. i still have scars all over my body from this attack and it was years ago.

i dont hold some weird grudge against the entire breed now because of this tho.
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Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:39:41 AM
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SSJCAT posted...
i was viciously attacked and almost killed by an ex cop german shepherd. the only reason im alive is because i managed to get a chokehold on it while it was the biting the shit out of me everywhere until it finally passed out. i still have scars all over my body from this attack and it was years ago.

i dont hold some weird grudge against the entire breed now because of this tho.

I don't have a grudge on pittbulls. I just find them highly unnecessary
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Taharqa_
01/11/19 11:40:43 AM
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kingjeremy posted...
They're a large dog capable of hurting most adults and any child. They snap frequently enough to make most people nervous. The statistics on this are clear.

This is combined with the fact that the breed only attracts bad people as owners.

It's a real double whammy.

I was attacked by one 8 years ago. It ran up from behind me and just grabbed onto my hand. The dog didn't bark, and I was simply walking on the street, so I certainly wasn't expecting it. I was able to pull my hand free and turn. Once we were looking at each other it started growling. Then, the owner grabbed it. I probably should have reported it. Mistake on my part.


Pit Bulls, real ones anyway, are not large dogs. The breed standard is 30-60 lbs, most fall between 30-50 lbs
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Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:54:11 AM
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what is this nonsense? a pitbull is a pitbull you can tell by their jacked up muscles
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Mako_Sharknado
01/11/19 11:56:11 AM
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They're one'a my absolute favorite breeds. They're gorgeous dogs
SSJCAT
01/11/19 11:56:26 AM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
what is this nonsense? a pitbull is a pitbull you can tell by their jacked up muscles

average weight for a pure bull is 30-65 lbs. again showing your ignorance
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Devil_Katt_II
01/11/19 11:58:07 AM
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SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
what is this nonsense? a pitbull is a pitbull you can tell by their jacked up muscles

average weight for a pure bull is 30-65 lbs. again showing your ignorance

do you approve of open carry?
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Taharqa_
01/11/19 12:03:47 PM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
what is this nonsense? a pitbull is a pitbull you can tell by their jacked up muscles


^That is misinformation. American Bullies which is a different breed are have the huge muscles, American Pit Bull Terriers do not. They are not built like bodybuilders with hulking muscles everywhere, they're more like triathletes, muscular but not overdone. Females are usually 30-45 lbs, can't get that much muscle on a dog with that frame.
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SSJCAT
01/11/19 12:04:09 PM
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Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
what is this nonsense? a pitbull is a pitbull you can tell by their jacked up muscles

average weight for a pure bull is 30-65 lbs. again showing your ignorance

do you approve of open carry?

yeah
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Wedge Antilles
01/11/19 12:18:01 PM
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Unstable and too high of risk. Wouldn't let my children (if I had any that is) be around them no matter how certain the owner is that it's fine.
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Taharqa_
01/11/19 12:20:21 PM
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Wedge Antilles posted...
Unstable and too high of risk. Wouldn't let my children (if I had any that is) be around them no matter how certain the owner is that it's fine.


Bully breeds like APBTs, Staffordshire Terriers, and Staffordshire Bull Terriers have a higher pass rate on the American Temperament Test than many other popular breeds.
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iClockwork
01/11/19 12:23:27 PM
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I literally have a friend who is taking her pitbull in today for an examination to be put down. Supposedly her ex bf came to her house and her dog nipped and bit at his pants tearing them in the process. I guess there's some 7 part test it has to take and if it fails 2 parts than they put it down.

Now I have to listen to her cry when they kill it since shes was irresponsible and never broke it of its natural aggressiveness.
_Krave_
01/11/19 12:23:39 PM
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NPC 1: I saw a pitbull the other day.
NPC 2: Horrible creatures. I avoid them whenever I can.
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HagenEx
01/11/19 12:27:06 PM
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M_Live
01/11/19 12:28:39 PM
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My parents have one that they've had since he was like 8 weeks old (now like 12 years) and he's been an angel the entire time.
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HagenEx
01/11/19 12:32:53 PM
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M_Live posted...
My parents have one that they've had since he was like 8 weeks old (now like 12 years) and he's been an angel the entire time.


Watch out, he's probably about to snap.
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Deedice
01/11/19 12:35:12 PM
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SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
Devil_Katt_II posted...
SSJCAT posted...
are people really still spreading the locking jaw myth

I'm only going off of data. Either there needs to be more oversight on who gets a pitbull or they need to be culled as a breed

fuck off with your genocide bullshit

it's not genocide. it's a call to "we should REALLY fucking do something about this" arms

why dont you go against the owners then. your ignorance and hypocrisy is pissing me off


Probably because people have more inherent value than dogs.... its really pretty simple
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Deedice
01/11/19 12:37:03 PM
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Cleo_II posted...
They have a natural instinct to attack smaller creatures. Which basically means smaller animals and children.

My dad was out going to the grocery store a month ago. He and his wife have this little poodle. His wife got out of the car and set her down. At the same time, a woman was getting out of the car next to them with her pitbull. That dog immediately attacked my dads dog unprovoked. It was badly injured, requiring several stitches. The pitbull owner was in shock. They kept claiming their dog had never attacked anyone, cried over the incident and paid for the vet bill. That poodle could have been a small kid.

Pitbulls arent the only breed like that though but they get the worst rap because they seem to attack more than the others or maybe cause more deaths with the same number of attacks.

I wouldnt own one personally.


Why were people bringing their non-service animals to the grocery store with them?
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BB mofo
01/11/19 12:54:30 PM
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They are dangerous, but the controversy around them is ridiculous. Their proponents ignore the problem, but their detractors treat them like a pest that needs to be exterminated. They should be treated like a wild animal, the same as tigers and bears. We recognize tigers are capable of showing affection, but it would be stupid and careless not to be careful around them. And we certainly wouldn't leave them loose with kids either.

Just prevent them from breeding between each other or other breeds that would make them more aggressive. There was once a time before the mid 20th century when pit bulls were legitimate family pets, but too many assholes have bred them to be aggressive ever since.
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GoodOlJr
01/11/19 1:19:40 PM
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BB mofo posted...
There was once a time before the mid 20th century when pit bulls were legitimate family pets, but too many a******s have bred them to be aggressive ever since


I thought it was the opposite the original pitbulls, were tinier, more unassuming looking, but could fight like crazy, and we're very dangerous, back in the English dog fighting days

The current day ones are more muscular but calmer
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BB mofo
01/11/19 1:32:35 PM
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GoodOlJr posted...
I thought it was the opposite the original pitbulls, were tinier, more unassuming looking, but could fight like crazy, and we're very dangerous, back in the English dog fighting days


Yah, but their jaws didn't do the same amount of damage a modern pitbull could do. Also, the American breed was more docile back in the early 20th century which made them more popular as a breed you could leave around kids. Pete the Pup from the Our Gang shorts was an American pit bull terrier.

Pit bull proponents often point this out, but fail to mention the near century of breeding that unscrupulous breeders did to bring out their aggressiveness as fight dogs.
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Cleo_II
01/11/19 1:45:54 PM
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Deedice posted...
Cleo_II posted...
They have a natural instinct to attack smaller creatures. Which basically means smaller animals and children.

My dad was out going to the grocery store a month ago. He and his wife have this little poodle. His wife got out of the car and set her down. At the same time, a woman was getting out of the car next to them with her pitbull. That dog immediately attacked my dads dog unprovoked. It was badly injured, requiring several stitches. The pitbull owner was in shock. They kept claiming their dog had never attacked anyone, cried over the incident and paid for the vet bill. That poodle could have been a small kid.

Pitbulls arent the only breed like that though but they get the worst rap because they seem to attack more than the others or maybe cause more deaths with the same number of attacks.

I wouldnt own one personally.


Why were people bringing their non-service animals to the grocery store with them?

Who knows. I think its stupid too.
Ragnarider
01/11/19 2:41:44 PM
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they're dogs
Taharqa_
01/11/19 2:52:19 PM
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BB mofo posted...
GoodOlJr posted...
I thought it was the opposite the original pitbulls, were tinier, more unassuming looking, but could fight like crazy, and we're very dangerous, back in the English dog fighting days


Yah, but their jaws didn't do the same amount of damage a modern pitbull could do. Also, the American breed was more docile back in the early 20th century which made them more popular as a breed you could leave around kids. Pete the Pup from the Our Gang shorts was an American pit bull terrier.

Pit bull proponents often point this out, but fail to mention the near century of breeding that unscrupulous breeders did to bring out their aggressiveness as fight dogs.


Fighting dogs are animal and dog aggressive, that has nothing to do with human aggression, they are different traits. Pit Bulls have bulldog and terrier ancestry, anyone that has been around working terriers know that they tend to be animal and dog aggressive. It is precisely because of their history as pit fighting dogs that they have a higher bite inhibition towards people. For obvious safety reasons dogmen couldn't have dogs that would turn around and bite them when breaking up a fight, man biters were often culled. Pete the Pup IIRC was out of the Colby and Tudor lines, one of the oldest American Pit Bull Terrier lines and his sire and direct ancestors were pit fighting dogs.

The problem is unscrupulous breeders that have no business breeding any dog but see dollar signs. They breed structurally unsound dogs, dogs with sketchy temperaments, breed solely for appearance and color, etc. You also have people out crossing Pit Bulls with mastiffs and passing them off as purebred. All of that compounds the issues, with breed popularity comes it's own set of problems.
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SauI_Goodman
01/11/19 2:55:16 PM
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Animal shelter volunteer for 20+ years. Never had a bad experience with a pit / rottie / shepherd etc. I've had more issues with those little ankle biters than with the "aggressive" dogs. Most pits are fine. Of course there are some that have issues but without knowing their past I can't judge. And you can say that for any dog. Any dog can have issues.
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shiby with it
01/11/19 3:04:11 PM
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The stigma against them is ridiculous and the statistics are always biased. Pitbulls are great.
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 3:05:04 PM
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dangerous in the wrong hands. the numbers dont lie. pits are IN FACT the most dangerous aggressive dogs out there.

i think owning a pit should involve a permit and some training and absolutely should never be left around kids.
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BignutzisBack
01/11/19 3:06:15 PM
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German Shepherds are a far superior breed so I've never really given pitbulls much thought, one of my friends from years ago had one though and it seemed pretty friendly
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Taharqa_
01/11/19 3:09:34 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
dangerous in the wrong hands. the numbers dont lie. pits are IN FACT the most dangerous aggressive dogs out there.

i think owning a pit should involve a permit and some training and absolutely should never be left around kids.


Eh, nah. Like I said earlier there are dozens of breed that are much larger, stronger and are actually human aggressive due to their status as guardian breeds (which Pit Bulls are not). It's just that bad breeders haven't gotten a hold of many of them yet.
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SSMajinVegeta2
01/11/19 3:12:07 PM
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monkmith posted...
no worse then any other big dog breed, statistics are so bad with them because they're the breed of choice for dumbasses who shouldn't be allowed to own pets.


Agreed. I grew up with them and they just provided us with more trouble than it was worth. I dont want any dog large enough to do damage to my kids. Its not an object of if a large dog will bite someone-its just when. I grew up in the middle of no where in a trailer home and yes 90% the dogs were nice beautiful dogs but in the end they did end up biting a couple of family members and we didnt raise them to be mean. Its just the chance you take with the dogs.
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 3:12:28 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
dangerous in the wrong hands. the numbers dont lie. pits are IN FACT the most dangerous aggressive dogs out there.

i think owning a pit should involve a permit and some training and absolutely should never be left around kids.


Eh, nah. Like I said earlier there are dozens of breed that are much larger, stronger and are actually human aggressive due to their status as guardian breeds (which Pit Bulls are not). It's just that bad breeders haven't gotten a hold of many of them yet.

https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-bite-statistics/

https://www.medicinenet.com/dogbite-_fatal_dog_attacks/views.htm

https://pethelpful.com/dogs/10-Most-Aggressive-Dog-Breeds-Temperament-Ratings-and-Information

multiple sources stating virtually the same thing. almost all studies show the pit as an aggressive dog with incredible bite power. dont tell me they're all biased against pits?
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Taharqa_
01/11/19 3:20:32 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
dangerous in the wrong hands. the numbers dont lie. pits are IN FACT the most dangerous aggressive dogs out there.

i think owning a pit should involve a permit and some training and absolutely should never be left around kids.


Eh, nah. Like I said earlier there are dozens of breed that are much larger, stronger and are actually human aggressive due to their status as guardian breeds (which Pit Bulls are not). It's just that bad breeders haven't gotten a hold of many of them yet.

https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-bite-statistics/

https://www.medicinenet.com/dogbite-_fatal_dog_attacks/views.htm

https://pethelpful.com/dogs/10-Most-Aggressive-Dog-Breeds-Temperament-Ratings-and-Information

multiple sources stating virtually the same thing. almost all studies show the pit as an aggressive dog with incredible bite power. dont tell me they're all biased against pits?


Those sources don't explain much past the surface. Aggressive? There are different types of aggression you know. Animal, dog, and human aggression are all different traits, this doesn't include things like fear aggression. Purebred American Pit Bull Terriers are typically not human aggressive but do tend to be dog and animal aggressive.
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BB mofo
01/11/19 7:20:15 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Those sources don't explain much past the surface. Aggressive? There are different types of aggression you know. Animal, dog, and human aggression are all different traits, this doesn't include things like fear aggression. Purebred American Pit Bull Terriers are typically not human aggressive but do tend to be dog and animal aggressive.


You obviously know a lot more about this than I do, but I still can't ignore the stories about pits causing substantial injury to children

Not very many dog owners are going to know about the breeding history of their dog, and unscrupulous breeders are not going to warn them. All they hear is "pit bulls are safe" and figure that's the case for every dog identified to them as a pit.

The way I feel about pits are the way I feel about pugs. Pugs have been overbred to the point where their existence is suffering. They need checks on their breeding, the same as certain breeding associations are doing with boxers to improve the health of future generations. Pit bulls have some fine qualities in them, but I feel they need to be bred in a closely monitored setting to become less dangerous to humans. Until then, owning a pit bull should come with a lot of legal stipulations. One of them is that the owner can't have a previous violent felony record.
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