Poll of the Day > Tales of Vesperia has one of my favorite JRPG scenes ever (spoilers)

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CarefreeDude
01/11/19 12:37:03 AM
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The main character Yuri has a friendship/rivalry with another character named Flynn. They grew up together and both want to save the world in their own ways: Flynn wants to be a knight and Yuri wants to murder politicians.

During the game they both walk their respective paths, and become two of the most powerful people in the world. Their ideals clash heavily because Flynn thinks murder is bad, and Yuri thinks the laws do nothing to punish corruption.

Before going to fight the big bad guy, they meet up, and their ideals come to a head and they duel. There is an epic battle music and the two clash.

Doesn't matter who wins. After the battle instead of one having to kill the other they decide to reconcile their differences and work together.

I think the reason I like this so much is because for once in a JRPG conflicting forces don't need to kill each other to solve their problems. Also for once the fate of the world isn't on the line.

Heck the only real bad guy dies before the final act and the true final boss only wants to save the world too and ends up siding with the herpes
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MechaKirby
01/11/19 12:44:34 AM
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Are you getting it today?
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CarefreeDude
01/11/19 1:32:44 AM
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Yup!
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aHappySacka
01/11/19 1:40:12 AM
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CarefreeDude posted...

Heck the only real bad guy dies before the final act and the true final boss only wants to save the world too and ends up siding with the herpes

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PK_Spam
01/11/19 1:41:06 AM
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CarefreeDude posted...
and ends up siding with the herpes

Uh huh...

Anyway, the real best scene is when Karols old guildmate calls him out for abandoning his mission to kill an eggbear to help save Halure, and when he tells her that he did in fact do it, and she tells him that she thinks hes lying, the rest of the party just... stands there. Even though they were all there when it happened.

Or when Yuri tells the crew that hes literally going to kill Judy after she betrays them because you have to cut off the infected part before it kills the whole, but then another scene has Pheroh literally saying the exact same thing, word for word, about Estelle, and Yuris like Thats bullshit, you cant honestly believe in doing something like that!

Those scenes take place 10 minutes apart.
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PK_Spam
01/11/19 1:46:21 AM
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Anyway, I love Vesperia to death, and it works, dont get me wrong, but as a whole, the story is flllllaaaaaaawwwwwwwwweeeeeddddd.

Like, it needed someone to actually look over the script and pick apart the loose ends that were dropped in and then never mentioned again.

Remember when Yuri is kinda freaked out at the end of Act 1, when Barbaros last words are Ill see you in hell, and it gets brought up again at Don Whitehorsea ritual suicide and Yuris like Oh wow! Sure is a problematic phrase. Here, let me cut your head off. Im freaked out right now bro.

And then... it never gets brought up again.

Theres a LOT of stuff to pick apart in the structure, and Im sure Ill find even more, since its been 5 years since I last played this game.
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ParanoidObsessive
01/11/19 2:10:27 AM
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CarefreeDude posted...
During the game they both walk their respective paths, and become two of the most powerful people in the world.

Before going to fight the big bad guy, they meet up, and their ideals come to a head and they duel. There is an epic battle music and the two clash.

Doesn't matter who wins. After the battle instead of one having to kill the other they decide to reconcile their differences and work together.

So Suikoden II, then.


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T0ffee
01/11/19 2:13:10 AM
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PK_Spam posted...
Or when Yuri tells the crew that hes literally going to kill Judy after she betrays them because you have to cut off the infected part before it kills the whole, but then another scene has Pheroh literally saying the exact same thing, word for word, about Estelle, and Yuris like Thats bulls***, you cant honestly believe in doing something like that!


Vesperia is one of my all time favorites and I can overlook most of its flaws just because I like it so much; but honestly, this one scene always sticks out like a sore thumb to me.

It definitely feels like there was a bit of miscommunication between the writers during this arc.
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CarefreeDude
01/11/19 1:32:56 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Anyway, I love Vesperia to death, and it works, dont get me wrong, but as a whole, the story is flllllaaaaaaawwwwwwwwweeeeeddddd.

Like, it needed someone to actually look over the script and pick apart the loose ends that were dropped in and then never mentioned again.

Remember when Yuri is kinda freaked out at the end of Act 1, when Barbaros last words are Ill see you in hell, and it gets brought up again at Don Whitehorsea ritual suicide and Yuris like Oh wow! Sure is a problematic phrase. Here, let me cut your head off. Im freaked out right now bro.

And then... it never gets brought up again.

Theres a LOT of stuff to pick apart in the structure, and Im sure Ill find even more, since its been 5 years since I last played this game.


I agree with you, the story is flawed and Rita seems to make up new words every time she speaks.

Also the whole, "Yuri thinks murder is the right path" and "Flynn things murder is bad mmmkay" is never truly resolved.

Also I feel the game in general would have been better if Yuri killed Estelle atop the tower.
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PK_Spam
01/11/19 4:11:37 PM
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Entity13
01/11/19 4:23:47 PM
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It's not that Yuri necessarily wants to kill people in general, but rather he has no qualms with killing anyone that he feels deserves death, or breaking certain laws to get the "right thing" done. For the duration of the fame that's two people, neither of which he wanted his party to get caught up with when he did the dark deed. Sure, however, he grows the least of everyone in the cast, and shifts his motivation to reflect the overall story's narrative as far as discovering the right thing and leading everyone else toward it.
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PK_Spam
01/12/19 11:06:11 PM
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Remember when we first enter the Shaikos Ruins and Estelle brings up how they cant make blastia cores, but then Ritas like shut up bitch, they CAN make them now. They just arent as good.

And you, being a wise gamer, goes Ah! Thatll probably be important! Ill remember that!

And then it never gets brought up for the rest of the game?
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SilentSeph
01/13/19 1:45:29 AM
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I'm always amused by how the city of scholars has an unguarded conveniently placed regular door like 20 ft off to the side of the main entrance.
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Entity13
01/13/19 5:11:00 AM
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SilentSeph posted...
I'm always amused by how the city of scholars has an unguarded conveniently placed regular door like 20 ft off to the side of the main entrance.


Scholars gotta sneak away for beer runs somehow! Besides, they're the smart ones, not their guards or visitors.
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Bulbasaur
01/14/19 5:54:34 AM
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you know what sucks about this remaster?

they didn't even ask Troy baker if he anted to come back to do the new lines.

they hired some other dude who sucks and it's incredibly noticeable when they switch between Troy's voice and this new guy's and I hate it.
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Entity13
01/14/19 6:43:42 AM
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Bulbasaur posted...
you know what sucks about this remaster?

they didn't even ask Troy baker if he anted to come back to do the new lines.

they hired some other dude who sucks and it's incredibly noticeable when they switch between Troy's voice and this new guy's and I hate it.


BAMCO being too cheap on something? Whaaaaat?
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Bulbasaur
01/14/19 6:55:19 AM
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it's not that they were being cheap, it's that they literally didn't even ask the original VA.

and also, if they were being cheap, they wouldn't have even voiced these lines.

like a lot of stuff that just plain wasn't voiced in the original game has been voiced in this one.
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Bulbasaur
01/14/19 11:55:56 AM
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also FYI to everyone

Karol sucks. he is the worst. I want to murder him. he is the shittiest character in the entire tales series and I think he ruins the game a little.
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CarefreeDude
01/14/19 1:09:36 PM
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Bulbasaur posted...
also FYI to everyone

Karol sucks. he is the worst. I want to murder him. he is the shittiest character in the entire tales series and I think he ruins the game a little.


I also strongly dislike him. The only time I use him is for that battle where it's requires in the snow place
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Bulbasaur
01/15/19 7:10:32 AM
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thst stupid wolf is still the hardest fight in the entire game

ffs
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