Board 8 > darkx continues to watch the Pokemon anime

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Underleveled
01/09/19 9:31:58 PM
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Currently in Advance Generation. As of last night I've watched up through the episode where Ash's Taillow evolved. I plan to watch quite a bit more tonight.

While I have only seen a handful of episodes beyond this point (and by that I mean like, less than 5), I do know who future traveling partners are and (for the most part) who catches what.

James has been an absolute star for the past dozen episodes or so. Not that he wasn't always but he has particularly been on fire lately.

That Baltoy episode seems like it was planned for a movie but they went "eh, nah." They haven't done a whole lot of that realm of sci-fi/supernatural in the main series as far as I've seen. Sort of reminded me of the Ninetales episode from Johto.

May was... uncharacteristically nasty in the most recent contest episode. Like I know she's immature but she's usually not THAT bad. Ash had an episode like that in the middle of Johto too where I was like "DAMN he was a dick this episode!" It also involved him losing a competition and getting shot back down to earth.

One of the last 10 episodes or so I really just went "Nope, fuck that one." But looking at the list of episode titles I honestly can't remember which one I felt that way about. It may have been "Whiscash and Ash," that one had a really unlikable Character of the Day.

EDIT: Okay, I remember which one it was. "A Double Dilemma." God that episode was not only pointless even among filler but stupid as hell and honestly kinda mean-spirited.
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Underleveled
01/10/19 11:14:32 AM
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Watched up through Ash beating Wynona last night.

-the Shuppet episode started out so well but kinda floundered later
-For a second I thought Torchik was going to evolve without May there, which would have been sad.
-Grovyle and Swellow are really strong.
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The_Ctes
01/10/19 9:02:07 PM
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Tag

Haven't watched these for like a decade, probably more, but it's still fun to read.
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Underleveled
01/10/19 9:13:19 PM
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Definitely gonna watch a few tonight, MAYBE finish up Advance Challenge since I won't be watching for a few days with Vesperia out, but that's 7 more episodes so, we'll see.
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Underleveled
01/12/19 11:09:48 AM
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Watched a few the other night. The movie theater episode was pretty cute, even if it was fillerific as could be. Also Pikachu was cute in the Scare to Remember episode but they tried to make it too much like Pikachu's Goodbye and it just didnt hit the mark.

I totally forgot Spoink had an evolved form

And I tried to watch May's contest episode twice but fell asleep both times (of tiredness, not boredom)
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XIII_rocks
01/12/19 11:30:51 AM
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Underleveled
01/14/19 10:32:18 AM
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Finished off Advance Challenge last night.

Man that guy got his Pokemon/badges in even more cheap ways than Kanto Ash.
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XIII_rocks
01/14/19 1:48:10 PM
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Who?
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Underleveled
01/14/19 1:52:56 PM
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Guy in some filler episode, last one of the season. He had a Wartortle, Ivysaur and Charmeleon that he stumbled into in the most ridiculous ways and got a badge from Cerulean City for cleaning their pool.
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pjbasis
01/14/19 1:55:58 PM
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XIII_rocks
01/14/19 4:28:06 PM
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Oh
Ahaha
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Underleveled
01/16/19 12:39:25 AM
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Watched through the Drake episode tonight.

The Groudon/Kyogre episodes seem like they were supposed to be a special that got aired as normal epispdes.

I always thought both Liza and Tate were girls.

Man Corphish is REALLY funny sometimes.

How stupid are Ash and co to not see through some of these awful Team Rocket disguises? Brock surprises me the most. He's a sharp guy but man...
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Underleveled
01/17/19 1:55:20 PM
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Nothing to update on.

Though since I didnt mention it before I wish someone in the group had caught Spoink.
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KatieKlaws
01/17/19 2:36:51 PM
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where are you watching them?
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charmander6000
01/17/19 3:30:40 PM
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The cameo Pokemon are fine to stay as cameos, though I always wished Ash caught more Pokemon and used them on rotation like during 5th gen
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Underleveled
01/17/19 4:35:18 PM
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KatieKlaws posted...
where are you watching them?

DVD
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Underleveled
01/19/19 11:12:54 AM
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Harley is an asshole. And really REALLY creepy.
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Underleveled
01/20/19 11:33:21 PM
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I'm pretty good and drunk from that Pat's game so no Pokemin watching tonight.
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Underleveled
01/22/19 10:38:07 PM
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I just watched the first Juan episode and I am VERY confused. Why did Ash get to send in Corphish after Snorunt fainted? That really didnt make it a double battle...
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Underleveled
01/24/19 1:44:33 AM
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I was really expecting Drew to catch the Wynaut that was being friendly to him.
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Underleveled
01/25/19 1:55:06 PM
#21:


Save
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Underleveled
01/28/19 3:36:42 AM
#22:


Save again
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Underleveled
01/29/19 3:45:20 AM
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Weird that Ash's Snorunt evolved so quickly considering its battle record is... sloppy.

Also Harley might be the worst recurring character on the show.
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bwburke94
01/29/19 3:58:56 AM
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Underleveled posted...
Also Harley might be the worst recurring character on the show.

It gets worse. Way worse.
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Underleveled
01/31/19 7:08:23 AM
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Something that's REALLY bugging me lately - Ash using his Pokedex on Pokemon he's already seen.

As for where I'm at, I got to the Hoenn league but I started to fall asleep so I stopped. I know I watched the episode with the Western-style Meowth whose trainer was a torch runner and I remember seeing the ending but I might have to rewatch the middle. After that I know I was falling asleep too much to comprehend episodes. I saw Morrison show up because you can't miss him (he might have even woken me up).
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charmander6000
01/31/19 2:12:59 PM
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Just wait until he uses it on a Koffing

One of the good choices for giving the female partner a Pokedex is that it still gives the audience information, but it avoids making it look like Ash forgot about that Pokemon.
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Underleveled
01/31/19 11:55:33 PM
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Morrison is getting pretty annoying. Not as bad as Harley though.
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Underleveled
02/02/19 10:30:44 AM
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Watched the rest of the Hoenn league last night, now we're back in Kanto and Ash is off for the Battle Frontier. He's got Phanpy and Misty is traveling with them again as well.

Ash really perplexes me sometimes. In the Hoenn league he came dangerously close to losing to a guy who essentially forfeited his first two Pokemon, then in the next round lost to the eventual tournament winner by his final Pokemon fainting just seconds before his opponent's.
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_Dog_
02/02/19 12:42:07 PM
#29:


TC, you're wasting your time.

I'm going to spoil you the ending of every region in the anime: Ash fails to become a Pokmon Master and everyone else barring Pikachu and Team Rocket are more or less permanently removed from the anime.

I will leave you this:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/217-pokemon/75265633

It's a lengthy one, but enjoy the read.
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Underleveled
02/03/19 12:34:58 PM
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Last night I watched up through the episode where he met Factory Head Nolan. As soon as he said he was making a phone call I knew he was getting a Pokemon, and as soon as he said he wanted to battle Articuno I knew it was Charizard. Wont be watching tonight (go my Pats!) but I'm excited for the conclusion to this when I start up again.

After I finish this season I will probably catch up on the movies before I go onto the proper Battle Frontier season (I have only seen up through the Celebi one)
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Underleveled
02/05/19 10:42:04 AM
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Good battle between Zard and Articuno. But Charizard was declared the winner when Articuno didn't have swirly eyes, yet the judge was basically told to wait to declare Charizard out for that exact reason.

Onix episode was full of dumb. On a semi-related note, I have noticed that, for various reasons (usually in disguise), Team Rocket has referred to any/all of Ash and company by name far more often lately than they ever did before (not that that's saying much but still).
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Underleveled
02/05/19 8:45:55 PM
#32:


I really love how passively fed-up James has become with Jessie and Meowth's plans. He always has been my favorite character on the show and he keeps getting better.

That Rough Tough Jigglypuff episode was pretty good, though I have to question the logic of the dad leaving his job and family for six months to catch a Pokemon, regardless of the good intention.
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_Dog_
02/06/19 4:11:36 AM
#33:


Everything you speak about will have no impact on Ash by the time he leaves the region. This means you're only watching filler, Underleveled.

I suggest again you quit watching the anime. Ash goes absolutely nowhere after 1000+ episodes.
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The_Ctes
02/06/19 6:39:38 AM
#34:


Underleveled posted...
Something that's REALLY bugging me lately - Ash using his Pokedex on Pokemon he's already seen.


This gets a lot worse in BW, although that's true for pretty much everything.

Pretty sure DP handles it just like you'd want though.
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Underleveled
02/07/19 9:26:06 PM
#35:


As of last night I finished Advanced Battle and watched the first episode of the actual Battle Frontier season, aka the first episode with the new voice actors.

Oh. Dear. Lord.

Team Rocket's voices aren't that bad, about as good as you'd expect from replacements trying to mimic beloved voices. Brock's at least attempts to sound like the original. Max's is probably the closest to the original (but that's a bad thing because Max is annoying), but oh my dead God in heaven Ash and May's new VAs don't even TRY. Oh, and the writing was CLEARLY different. No attempt to mimic the 4Kids style. Almost like it was just directly translated.

That being said, I've heard that they get better, especially Sarah Natochenny, and that Sinnoh is pretty awesome overall so I have that to look forward to, but that Unova is pretty bad.

Anyway thoughts to wrap up the final 4Kids episodes...

Harley is still the God damn worst.

There's actually some pretty fun filler lately.... with food as a strange recurring theme.

That being said I'm going to take a fairly short (1 to 2 weeks probably) break from watching this to watch other things so in a day or so I'm gonna summon a bump bot to help me out.
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_Dog_
02/09/19 3:12:18 AM
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@The_Ctes posted...
Underleveled posted...
Something that's REALLY bugging me lately - Ash using his Pokedex on Pokemon he's already seen.


This gets a lot worse in BW, although that's true for pretty much everything.

Pretty sure DP handles it just like you'd want though.

At the rate he's going, I predict he will be really pissed by the time he forces himself through the entire anime. He could spare himself by simply quitting the anime altogether.
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The_Ctes
02/11/19 7:24:57 AM
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I think you've made your point.
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Underleveled
02/11/19 9:03:10 AM
#38:


If it's that Dog person I already put him on ignore. I don't need that kind of negativity in my topic. He seems to have a huge problem with people watching things they enjoy (in spite of my complaints I am enjoying this overall).

My Pokemon watch through topics always seem to get hijacked by terrible users. I remember back on 2010 I tried to do one of the first season and at a certain point Whirly got fed up that I was taking too long so he usurped it and turned it into his own watch through topic.
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The_Ctes
02/12/19 6:31:13 AM
#39:


Yeah, obviously.

I remember the voice change really bugging me at first too, but I think they somewhat quickly began learning to do their characters well enough and of course you also get used to it as you go.

It helped that Battle Frontier was a really strong season overall imo, it had basically no filler, a lot of stuff happened.
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Underleveled
02/14/19 1:52:00 PM
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Watched two episodes last night.

Sweet Baby James was great, as are most episodes that deal with Team Rocket's pasts. I think it really says a lot about how much James loves and appreciates his grandparents that he truly kept his truce with Ash and co. for the whole episode, even to the point of attacking Jessie and Meowth. It was also a nice goodbye for Chimeco, who I will miss because he was cute and funny sometimes (though to be honest before I got to this part of the anime I totally forgot that Pokemon existed; I really don't thing I've ever seen it in the games or TCG... Are we sure it's not a Pokemon just made up for the anime???). Mime Jr. seems to have potential though.

I liked in the medicine episode how the most experienced one had a Mareep, the intermediate one had a Flaaffy, and the beginner had an Ampharos. Nice metaphor for how evolution stage does not always necessarily indicate experience level. Also that Marshtomp evolution was just too weirdly timed (in the cold open and for really no reason).

A couple of general notes, I think the new VAs are already getting a little better. Some of them anyway. Sarah Natochenny seems to be trying harder and May's did a couple of little quirks that Veronica Taylor always did.

And this is a note from last season but in the Advanced Battle theme song, when Team Rocket dances, a caped figure rushes by them and then looks back.... that character never showed up to my recollection... did he??
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The_Ctes
02/14/19 2:05:55 PM
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Mime Jr. is great!
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Underleveled
02/19/19 11:22:32 AM
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Okay, so since I last updated, I have watched twelve episodes, so I figured I'd just give a quick thought or two on each one.

Wheel of Frontier - Snorlax is a beast. But Ash is never gonna have an easy win, is he? I guess it wouldn't be much of a show if he did.

May's Egg-cellent Adventure - That girl was annoying.

Weekend Warrior - This one had some issues (that family is really dysfunctional imo) but it was a nice parallel to adults who still like to do perceived "kids" things in their free time and that that's okay, especially given the timing of this episode, it would have aired right around the time the show's original audience was hitting 16-20ish.

On Olden Pond - Meh. A lot of bull in this episode.

Tactics Theatrics - I guess this was a pretty cool episode.

Reversing the Charges - I felt bad for Elekid as well as all the Pokemon it was hurting because it was basically under the equivalent of being unwillingly injected with steroids. And the way they finally defeated Team Rocket was complete bull. But it was pretty fun visually and Phanpy evolved.

The Green Guardian - I LOVE how they finally incorporated spin-off game stuff into the show! (well, first time since Todd anyway) Also Celebi, naww!

From Cradle to Save - Wow, Brock, the rock Pokemon specialist, finally caught a rock Pokemon (legit, this is the first time he's caught a rock Pokemon since his original Onix and Geodude that he had before we even met him). And while I like that they didn't just leave a baby Bonsly alone and abandoned and with a whole town wanting its head on a platter, I already can't tell if it's a legit toddler and just acting like it or if it is fully aware of the crap it's already pulling. Maybe a little of both? I think this is a Pokemon I'm NOT going to like.

Time Warp Heals All Wounds - Okay, so I'm not sure how I feel about May and Meowth changing an event from a half a century prior to make it so that a couple stayed together, so now they have memories of each other for 50 years that really didn't happen (I guess in the new timeline it happened) oh and the whole town has changed. I was half expecting the whole Life is Strange deal where they realize that they changed some stuff for the worse too and went back and put things back to the way they were but I guess they wouldn't do something like that on a kids show. And I guess that's why I can accept this episode for what it is, because it's a kids show.

Queen of the Serpentine - First off, don't be silly, dub, serpents don't exist. Second, so many people were so idiotic in this episode. Like Ash literally putting Pikachu in a box that Team Rocket has used before. Multiple times. Also Lucy's team going to greet Ash despite the Pike being closed that day. Also Brock was way more aggressive than usual in this episode but I kinda like how it gave us the other perspective on this one. Poor guy, he missed a legitimate chance.

Off the Unbeaten Path - As soon as they revealed the premise for this episode I knew it was going to be as fillerific as filler can be. But as uber-filler goes it wasn't awful. I like that James won and that all he cared about was winning with Mime Jr. and not necessarily the prize, so Jessie and Meowth still got their comeuppance for cheating.

Harley Rides Again - Can we please get this character out of the show sooner rather than later? And why did the writers think May losing to him would be a good idea at all? It's fine when she loses to Drew but this guy? Ugh.
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_Dog_
02/23/19 5:41:05 AM
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@The_Ctes
@Underleveled

Are you unable to handle criticism of the Pokmon anime? Don't you have any arguments to refute me? Or will you concede that I'm right? Don't be a coward, Underleveled. Take me on.

Someone quote me so that @Underleveled reads me.
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Underleveled
02/28/19 1:58:54 PM
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Up
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KujikawaRising
02/28/19 6:44:50 PM
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^If you're going to make alts just to target somebody else with your negativity, I suggest you go ban yourself.
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Underleveled
02/28/19 7:39:08 PM
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__Dog__ posted...
Why don't we make this thread a little more interesting.

_Dog_ posted...
@The_Ctes
@Underleveled

Are you unable to handle criticism of the Pokmon anime? Don't you have any arguments to refute me? Or will you concede that I'm right? Don't be a coward, Underleveled. Take me on.

Someone quote me so that @Underleveled reads me.

I have acknowledged many flaws and still enjoy it as a whole. You are the one going all-or-nothing in hating it. And going out of your way to be heard in a topic about something you clearly dont like. Also reported for stalking/harassment.
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Underleveled
03/06/19 10:51:01 PM
#48:


Bump
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_Dog_
03/08/19 12:16:45 AM
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@KujikawaRising posted...
^If you're going to make alts just to target somebody else with your negativity, I suggest you go ban yourself.

Over my dead body. I will not be silenced.
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KujikawaRising
03/08/19 11:29:36 AM
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_Dog_ posted...
@KujikawaRising posted...
^If you're going to make alts just to target somebody else with your negativity, I suggest you go ban yourself.

Over my dead body. I will not be silenced.

It's worth noting that I agree Ash should've won the Sinnoh League, after which the series would've rebooted in Unova. The Pokemon anime has suffered from a plague of sameness - but that doesn't mean it can't be enjoyable. I still enjoyed my DP watchthrough a few years ago despite having grown up with the original series like yourself. It's a freaking kids' show. It's allowed to repeat itself for new generations.

What I disagree with is your "holier than thou" attitude where you think your opinion is the only one worth anything. Allow darkx to enjoy this instead of hounding him trying to shove your stance down his throat. He's allowed to enjoy it his way. Back off and let him.

P.S. I won't reply to anything else you say, so I suggest you back off of me, too.
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Underleveled
03/11/19 9:34:12 PM
#51:


Just a quick update. The reason I haven't been saying anything is because I have been rewatching two older seasons (Orange Islands and Johto Journeys) as those are the seasons that Pokesins is currently on. Some of those Orange Islands episodes I hadn't seen probably since they originally aired.

The biggest surprise I found among them was Meowth Rules, which could have been an A+ episode if not for one little thing - Ash and friends were in it. Only for a few minutes, pretty much out of necessity, but they detracted from it. If any episode I've ever seen could have benefitted from not having the protagonists, it's that one.
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