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Vlado
01/10/19 4:26:50 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
Meanwhile, globalist puppets declare being a man to be "psychologically harmful."
https://www.rt.com/usa/448410-apa-masculinity-bad-psychology/

Putin is probably having a laugh almost everyday as he hears a summary of American news.


RTs ability to take one clause of one sentence to misrepresent something so it fits their agenda is really impressive .

Even just in the tweet thread the article links to, the APA refers to positive aspects of traditional masculinity too. The "psychologically harmful" part is just this:

https://twitter.com/APA/status/1082401926782861316?s=20

basically the point is just that there's traditionally pressure on men to keep their feelings inside or not ask for help when in distress, and that is psychologically harmful

like it's literally a set of guidelines trying to determine how best to help men psychologically and they're somehow making it out to be anti-man.

lmfao, what? Did you even read what you're quoting?

The guidelines support encouraging positive aspects of traditional masculinity, such as courage & leadership, and discarding traits such as violence & sexism, while noting that the vast majority of men are not violent.

Violence and sexism are "traits of traditional masculinity"? No, they're not. Globalist puppets smearing men as part of their war on normality, as usual.

Jakyl25 posted...
Please regale us again with the sequence of events that would result in this.

I don't need to. Look around yourself. The division in your society keeps getting worse. Just how long do you think those who are being exploited for the sake of the democrat voter base are going to take it? Do you think they'll suddenly just change their minds and embrace this globalist version of communism that the democratic party's puppetmasters have in mind?

Not even going to explain why even if that happened (and it won't), that globalist version of communism is doomed from the start.

USA is doomed to extinction, a course firmly set since Kennedy was assassinated, and Trump was promising he would try to to fight to change that course. But it does not seem he actually will manage to.

Of course, it takes a little understanding of geopolitics to understand how inevitable this is... And you're struggling to even comprehend politics within the US.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
my question to Vlado is: if not masculinity, what do you think is responsible for men's substantially higher suicide rate? There must be something causing the disparity.

Society repressing masculinity.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
also, sorry to waste posts which are obviously a valuable limited resource, but holy shit the comments on that article are incredible

Psychology and psychiatry, two pseudo-scientific fields created and controlled by the same old Judeo-Marxist mafia. The purpose of these "disciplines" is to subvert traditional society and help to usher in the globo-homo "new world order". They never cured a single "patient", all they do is put labels on people that can be exploited for political purposes. It's a total scam.

it's always the Jews

Oh wow, some random comment totally discredits the article!

Meanwhile, gilets jaunes with some cool ideas!

Yellow Vest protesters are hoping to trigger a bank run with a nationwide coordinated cash withdrawal. By threatening the French financial system, protesters say, they want to peacefully force the government to pass their reforms.

If the banks weaken, the state weakens immediately, said Yellow Vest sympathizer Tahz San on Facebook. Its elected officials' worst nightmare.

Cool!

https://www.rt.com/news/448426-yellow-vests-financial-bank-protest/
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Vlado
01/10/19 4:54:30 AM
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Wonderful chanson by Gilets Jaunes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBiHJxGxz1g" data-time="


Lyrics:

Qui c'est qui prend le taxi ?

Les gentils

Et qui paye le carburant ?

Les mchants

Qui blablate sur LCI ?

Les gentils

Qui crie sa colre aux champs ?

Les mchants

Qui fait de l'conomie ?

Les gentils

Et qui est court d'argent ?

Les mchants

C'est l'ENA, Rotschild, Bercy

Les gentils

C'est les petits commerants

Les mchants

C'est comme un guignol,

Spectacle permanent !

Et vive les banques,

Et vive le parlement !

Tout le monde en rigole

Et plus personne n'y croit.

Et voil !

Pour qui t'as de l'antipathie ?

Les gentils

Qui fait soixante-dix pour cent ?

Les mchants

Qui gaze aux bombes lacri ?

Les gentils

Et qui se retrouve devant ?

Les mchants

Soixante-huitar ds accomplis,

Les gentils

Ont peur des pavs, maintenant,

Des mchants !

Ils veulent l'Europe tout prix,

Les gentils

Ils veulent nourrir leurs enfants,

Les mchants

Les gentils mchants !


English:

Who is taking the taxi?

The good ones

And who pays the fuel?

The villains

Who babbles on LCI?

The good ones

Who shouts his anger to the fields?

The villains

Who makes the economy?

The good ones

And who is short of money?

The villains

It's the ENA, Rotschild, Bercy

The good ones

It's the small traders

The villains

It's like a puppet,

Permanent show!

And long live the banks,

And long live parliament!

Everyone laughs

And nobody believes it anymore.

There you go !

Who do you dislike?

The good ones

Who's seventy percent?

The villains

Who gasses with lacri bombs?

The good ones

And who finds himself in front?

The villains

Accomplished sixty-eighters

The good ones

Are afraid of cobblestones now

Bad peoples !

They want Europe at all costs,

The good ones

They want to feed their children,

The villains

The nice villains!


Catchy melody, gentle woman's voice singing, meaningful lyrics. You can't ask for more!
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Jakyl25
01/10/19 4:58:09 AM
53
Vlado posted...
Violence and sexism are "traits of traditional masculinity"? No, they're not.


Statistics indicate otherwise
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Vlado
01/10/19 5:00:13 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
Violence and sexism are "traits of traditional masculinity"? No, they're not.


Statistics indicate otherwise

No, they don't, lmfao.
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Jakyl25
01/10/19 5:01:10 AM
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Vlado
01/10/19 5:31:35 AM
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Don't use phrases whose meaning you don't understand.

How about that wonderful song, btw?

Question: Why do you oppose the Yellow Vests? Why do you support Macron over them?
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Jakyl25
01/10/19 5:53:09 AM
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I never said anything about France
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Hardcore_Adult
01/10/19 6:39:43 AM
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Vlado posted...
Don't use phrases whose meaning you don't understand.

How about that wonderful song, btw?

Question: Why do you oppose the Yellow Vests? Why do you support Macron over them?


Can't speak for some people but, You know how you said the Inflatababy that flew over London last year was "Impotent Rage?" Well, when they tried that Vest shit here in the not-too-distant past, that's what it came off as even though they managed to impede an ambulance, the pricks.
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Vlado
01/10/19 6:55:53 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
I never said anything about France

Do. I am interested in your opinion on the matter.

Hardcore_Adult posted...
Well, when they tried that Vest shit here in the not-too-distant past, that's what it came off as even though they managed to impede an ambulance, the pricks.

It looks like Britain is beyond salvation, but the Frenchies surprisingly have some fight left in them.
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Espeon
01/10/19 8:14:27 AM
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Espeon posted...
That whole post is completely lacking in substance. Just its globalism because it is.

But I want to respond to your post to Metal and get serious, without any underlying distaste for social politics from either side. You claim that globalism is a result of powerful corporate interests attempting to create a singular global government to make it easier for their greed to go unregulated. Okay. I will admit that is ONE possibility. But would you consider the following?

As it stands, the world has dramatically globalized (note, globalization is merely discussing the fact that modern technology, be it transportation or communication, has interconnected the world to a large degree. Globalization =/= globalism.). As a result of this interconnectivity, large corporations have far more options for how to maximize profits from their business. Given that distance is no longer the massive hurdle it once was, there is less need for closeness to be a factor in setting up shop, at least not on the front end of things.

With this in mind, we come to my argument. Corporate economics are a zero-sum game. A corporation only really needs to set up their factory or headquarters or whatever in one location, so theyre going to pick a location that offers them the most economic benefit. This gives the corporations a LOT more leverage and negotiating power when dealing with the places theyre seeking to establish their base. Countries or states or cities all want that corporation to take up residence with them, because that brings jobs and it brings in tax revenue. Thus, it becomes a bidding war. What location can offer the corporation the sweetest deal. No regulations? A low tax rate? Maybe even a monetary gift?

Ill use a contemporary example. Amazon is a massive corporation, but when they were looking to establish a new headquarters in America, suddenly delegations from around the country flew in to pitch their case. It became a race to the bottom: who could give the most to this multi-national corporation, just to ensure that what comparably minimal benefits went to THEM and no one else? Hell, theres a reason so much manufacturing is done in poor countries that need the money corporations bring.

You say that globalism benefits corporations because it allows the relaxation of ANY sort of check on their power. Id argue however, that this is EXACTLY how things work under a nationalist system. With all the different nations isolated from one another (often viewing each other as competition), they become ripe for the picking. Sure, you can take a moral stand and say no, youre gonna follow our rules or youre outta here, but then theyll call that bluff and find a sweeter deal someplace else. Again, these are extremely rich entities who have more mobility that any singular location, and countries need their influx of money far more than corporations need a particular countrys land.

Id argue that globalism is actually more detrimental to corporate power if anything. With everyone set apart as isolated units, as you pointed out, there are hundreds of sets of rules and regulations...so the corporation can choose the one they like best. But if you have a wider form of oversight, perhaps from a more overarching, global entity, then at least those regulations can become more uniform to the point where corporations cant abuse them any longer.

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MoogleKupo141
01/10/19 10:37:09 AM
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Vlado posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
Violence and sexism are "traits of traditional masculinity"? No, they're not.


Statistics indicate otherwise

No, they don't, lmfao.


men commit the vast majority of violent crimes, so.... they do?

and even going back through like the entirety of recorded time, men are the ones expected to fight in wars. There is a societal expectation for men to be more violent.

Oh wow, some random comment totally discredits the article!


no, the article discredits itself just fine. The comment is just a seperate insane thing I wanted to point out.
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SuperNiceDog
01/10/19 10:45:35 AM
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Vlado speaks straight facts
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MoogleKupo141
01/10/19 10:45:49 AM
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I want gay facts
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Jakyl25
01/10/19 10:56:41 AM
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Vlado posted...
Do. I am interested in your opinion on the matter.


I dont know enough about it to have an informed opinion and for now I dont care to learn
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Vlado
01/11/19 4:32:53 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
men commit the vast majority of violent crimes, so.... they do?

And why do you assume the reason for that is masculinity? Of course men commit most crimes, they're the stronger sex, so they are able to commit crimes (and do everything else that requires more strength) more easily than women.

Not being a beta loser makes you a criminal, though? No.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
There is a societal expectation for men to be more violent.

No, there isn't. Men being stronger comes from biology, not society. Society merely recognises that fact (though globalists want to brainwash people into rejecting it).

MoogleKupo141 posted...
no, the article discredits itself just fine. The comment is just a seperate insane thing I wanted to point out.

I can post much more insane SJW babble from article comments or twitter if I cared to. Waste of time.

Jakyl25 posted...
Vlado posted...
Do. I am interested in your opinion on the matter.


I dont know enough about it to have an informed opinion and for now I dont care to learn

How convenient... This is why you guys are far from my level.
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Vlado
01/11/19 8:12:16 AM
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Excellent quote here showcasing how evil political correctness is:
CR17c9L
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Espeon
01/11/19 8:23:39 AM
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Espeon posted...
Espeon posted...
That whole post is completely lacking in substance. Just its globalism because it is.

But I want to respond to your post to Metal and get serious, without any underlying distaste for social politics from either side. You claim that globalism is a result of powerful corporate interests attempting to create a singular global government to make it easier for their greed to go unregulated. Okay. I will admit that is ONE possibility. But would you consider the following?

As it stands, the world has dramatically globalized (note, globalization is merely discussing the fact that modern technology, be it transportation or communication, has interconnected the world to a large degree. Globalization =/= globalism.). As a result of this interconnectivity, large corporations have far more options for how to maximize profits from their business. Given that distance is no longer the massive hurdle it once was, there is less need for closeness to be a factor in setting up shop, at least not on the front end of things.

With this in mind, we come to my argument. Corporate economics are a zero-sum game. A corporation only really needs to set up their factory or headquarters or whatever in one location, so theyre going to pick a location that offers them the most economic benefit. This gives the corporations a LOT more leverage and negotiating power when dealing with the places theyre seeking to establish their base. Countries or states or cities all want that corporation to take up residence with them, because that brings jobs and it brings in tax revenue. Thus, it becomes a bidding war. What location can offer the corporation the sweetest deal. No regulations? A low tax rate? Maybe even a monetary gift?

Ill use a contemporary example. Amazon is a massive corporation, but when they were looking to establish a new headquarters in America, suddenly delegations from around the country flew in to pitch their case. It became a race to the bottom: who could give the most to this multi-national corporation, just to ensure that what comparably minimal benefits went to THEM and no one else? Hell, theres a reason so much manufacturing is done in poor countries that need the money corporations bring.

You say that globalism benefits corporations because it allows the relaxation of ANY sort of check on their power. Id argue however, that this is EXACTLY how things work under a nationalist system. With all the different nations isolated from one another (often viewing each other as competition), they become ripe for the picking. Sure, you can take a moral stand and say no, youre gonna follow our rules or youre outta here, but then theyll call that bluff and find a sweeter deal someplace else. Again, these are extremely rich entities who have more mobility that any singular location, and countries need their influx of money far more than corporations need a particular countrys land.

Id argue that globalism is actually more detrimental to corporate power if anything. With everyone set apart as isolated units, as you pointed out, there are hundreds of sets of rules and regulations...so the corporation can choose the one they like best. But if you have a wider form of oversight, perhaps from a more overarching, global entity, then at least those regulations can become more uniform to the point where corporations cant abuse them any longer.

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Mr Lasastryke
01/11/19 9:01:01 AM
68
Vlado posted...
Of course men commit most crimes, they're the stronger sex, so they are able to commit crimes (and do everything else that requires more strength) more easily than women.


uh... you don't get that more kinds of crime exist than the "muscular, bearded guy robs a grocery store" kind, right? you don't have to be a super strong alpha to be a tax evader, for instance.
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Kenri
01/11/19 12:03:50 PM
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Vlado posted...
How convenient... This is why you guys are far from my level.

Globalist Vlado here thinking everyone should have a vested knowledge of contemporary French politics
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Jakyl25
01/11/19 12:32:31 PM
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Vlado posted...

And why do you assume the reason for that is masculinity? Of course men commit most crimes, they're the stronger sex, so they are able to commit crimes (and do everything else that requires more strength) more easily than women.


Uhhhh guns dont really require a lot of strength
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MoogleKupo141
01/11/19 1:52:20 PM
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And why do you assume the reason for that is masculinity? Of course men commit most crimes, they're the stronger sex, so they are able to commit crimes (and do everything else that requires more strength) more easily than women.


we live in the future, women could just shoot you with a gun now, but for some reason they're never the ones going on shooting sprees in public places.


Not being a beta loser makes you a criminal, though? No.


no one said that, not even a little bit. "Masculinity" is a multifaceted thing, and each of those facets can exist at different levels of intensity.
Them suggesting that maybe men's tendency to internalize their problems and not seek help can be harmful is not even close to saying men should be "beta losers".

No, there isn't. Men being stronger comes from biology, not society. Society merely recognises that fact (though globalists want to brainwash people into rejecting it).


it can be two things. Obviously the biological basis is there, but different societies can encourage that at different levels.
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Vlado
01/11/19 6:03:31 PM
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Kenri posted...
Globalist Vlado here thinking everyone should have a vested knowledge of contemporary French politics

I mean, if you want to get near my level, yes.

Jakyl25 posted...
Uhhhh guns dont really require a lot of strength

MoogleKupo141 posted...
we live in the future, women could just shoot you with a gun now, but for some reason they're never the ones going on shooting sprees in public places.

Shootings are merely a part of violent crime. Depending on the gun, being effective with it can require a decent amount of strength, too.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
no one said that, not even a little bit. "Masculinity" is a multifaceted thing, and each of those facets can exist at different levels of intensity.
Them suggesting that maybe men's tendency to internalize their problems and not seek help can be harmful is not even close to saying men should be "beta losers".

No, it's simply lies. They sugar-coat their obvious attack on men with some plausible-sounding-if-you-put-zero-thought-into-it excuse, and you buy it. lel

MoogleKupo141 posted...
it can be two things. Obviously the biological basis is there, but different societies can encourage that at different levels.

"Encourage"? There's nothing to encourage or discourage. It is a fact of life. If you attack men being men, as done in the case I'm citing, you're destroying your society.

Meanwhile, check out this awesome capture of Trump's latest negotiation with the democraps:
mcO8Wsn
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Mr Lasastryke
01/11/19 6:24:03 PM
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lol @ vlado ignoring my post.

i'll keep this in mind for the next time he does his "OF COURSE THE USUAL SUSPECTS IGNORE MY UNDENIABLY GREAT POINT" spiel.
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TheRock1525
01/11/19 6:37:18 PM
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Vlado posted...
They sugar-coat their obvious attack on men with some plausible-sounding-if-you-put-zero-thought-into-it excuse, and you buy it.


It's more like "I trust professional psychologists over random internet trolls."

What's your degree?
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Mr Lasastryke
01/11/19 6:39:38 PM
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professional psychologists are actually globalists who intent to destroy normality though
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MoogleKupo141
01/11/19 6:56:03 PM
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No, it's simply lies. They sugar-coat their obvious attack on men with some plausible-sounding-if-you-put-zero-thought-into-it excuse, and you buy it. lel


you're sounding a lot like that comment I posted. Do you think the field of psychology is just an elaborate globalist conspiracy too?

Encourage"? There's nothing to encourage or discourage. It is a fact of life. If you attack men being men, as done in the case I'm citing, you're destroying your society.


I don't know how you can think society has no impact. If that were the case, every country would have the same incidence of violent crime.
Clearly something different is happening in the US compared to Japan which has like 1/5 the murder rate. If this website I'm looking at is right, the US's rape rate is like 27x Japan's too. Are Japanese men just too weak to do crimes?
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TheRock1525
01/11/19 7:07:25 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
professional psychologists are actually globalists who intent to destroy normality though


Unless they're Jordan Peterson.

Hey, remember when he said the C-16 bill would lead to people getting thrown in jail for using the wrong pronouns.

Look at all these... *checks notes* zero people incarcerated because of this law!
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Jakyl25
01/11/19 7:12:46 PM
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Vlado posted...

I mean, if you want to get near my level, yes.


*shudder*

The amount of lobotomies Id have to have are outside of my health coverage
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MoogleKupo141
01/11/19 7:38:03 PM
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also for a more clear of example of how individual aspects of masculinity can be encouraged or discouraged

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/11/18178346/masculinity-therapist-guidelines-american-psychological-association-apa-mental-health

an author of the new guidelines, say that the message is not that being a man is bad. Its that rigid gender roles and taking certain parts of masculinity too far are bad. For example, says Englar-Carlson, men are expected to be independent, and thats generally a good thing. But if youre only independent all the time and thats all you can do and you cant ask for help, that has ramifications that are not healthy,

potentially positive masculine traits can have negative consequences if you overdo them.
Similarly to this, I think some of the difference in the violent crime between men and women can be accounted for by men taking their need to be in control or seen as tough too far. That doesn't mean being tough or strong is a generally bad trait to have.
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Vlado
01/12/19 1:54:43 PM
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Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol @ vlado ignoring my post.

No, I didn't, it was a repeat of the other posts I replied to...

TheRock1525 posted...
Vlado posted...
They sugar-coat their obvious attack on men with some plausible-sounding-if-you-put-zero-thought-into-it excuse, and you buy it.


It's more like "I trust professional psychologists over random internet trolls."

What's your degree?

You trust globalist puppets because what they tell you matches the propaganda you've chosen to believe in.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
Are Japanese men just too weak to do crimes?

Nope, it's just a homogenous country, i.e. a high-trust society, i.e. much less crime than the US. Thanks for confirming my point that we must strive towards homogenous societies! :)

MoogleKupo141 posted...
potentially positive masculine traits can have negative consequences if you overdo them.

The same could be said about anything. As I said, this is a thinly veiled attack on normality.

Meanwhile, democratic party monster wants baby murder "up to birth":

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has said he will refuse to sign the states latest budget unless provisions are made to ensure abortion up to birth can be obtained by residents. In addition, he believes that terminations should be permitted for any reason.

Gotta make sure the baby body part/tissue industry thrives... Today, it's until birth, tomorrow, it's after birth, the day after, it's soylent green. That's what you get when you foolishly choose globalism.

What's your take on this? Baby murder in the 9th month A-OK?
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TheRock1525
01/12/19 1:59:23 PM
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Vlado posted...
You trust globalist puppets because what they tell you matches the propaganda you've chosen to believe in.


Why are they globalist puppets? What's your evidence? And what's your degree? Mine is mechanical engineering so I'm pretty well versed in that field, not so much psychology.
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Jakyl25
01/12/19 2:02:01 PM
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Vlado posted...

Gotta make sure the baby body part/tissue industry thrives... Today, it's until birth, tomorrow, it's after birth, the day after, it's soylent green. That's what you get when you foolishly choose globalism.


So you think we are literally on the path to cannibalism? Interesting
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TheRock1525
01/12/19 2:02:19 PM
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Vlado posted...
What's your take on this? Baby murder in the 9th month A-OK?


Considering this almost never happens save instances of the mothers life being in danger or the baby being born with severe abnormalities, I'm not too worried about it.

I also like how you worry about after birth abortions despite it being legal since 1973 and not a single rational person has pushed for it.
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Vlado
01/12/19 2:17:34 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Considering this almost never happens save instances of the mothers life being in danger or the baby being born with severe abnormalities, I'm not too worried about it.

It doesn't happen also because it's a crime. Your support for killing babies in the 9th month is noted, however.

TheRock1525 posted...
What's your evidence?

Common sense. When you see a monster advocating for globalist policies, it's clear it's a globalist puppet.

Jakyl25 posted...
So you think we are literally on the path to cannibalism? Interesting

Not really because globalism has already lost. But it is what would have happened if we'd let it win.

TheRock1525 posted...
legal since 1973

?
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ColZach
01/12/19 2:29:55 PM
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Vlado perfectly represents the fallacy of the stupidest right wingers.

Globalism is terrifying! We have to do everything to defeat it!

Globalism has already lost!

Its that common trope where the enemy is somehow all-powerful and pathetically weak at the same time. Trump does it too.

Also did Vlado actually say Globalism leads to cannibalism? Is this guy running out of stupid shit to say? LMFAO
Vlado
01/12/19 2:44:09 PM
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ColZach posted...
Vlado perfectly represents the fallacy of the stupidest right wingers.

Globalism is terrifying! We have to do everything to defeat it!

Globalism has already lost!

Its that common trope where the enemy is somehow all-powerful and pathetically weak at the same time. Trump does it too.

Also did Vlado actually say Globalism leads to cannibalism? Is this guy running out of stupid shit to say? LMFAO

Just because ISIS are defeated doesn't mean the remaining soldiers cannot cause a lot of damage. Globalism needs to be completely erradicated.
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Vlado
01/12/19 3:31:05 PM
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Okay, I know who I'm supporting in the democratic primaries!

Tulsi Gabbard:

"There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace."

https://www.rt.com/usa/448623-gabbard-tulsi-running-president/

I could see myself supporting her against Trump, too, if his passive behaviour continues.
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MoogleKupo141
01/12/19 3:41:18 PM
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Common sense. When you see a monster advocating for globalist policies, it's clear it's a globalist puppet.


monster?

do you think the APA are intentionally seeking the downfall of society (or whatever) or are they people trying to do he right thing unfortunately misguided by globalist puppeteers

and also I want to ask again: do you think the entire field of psychology is a globalist comspiracy?
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Vlado
01/12/19 3:46:43 PM
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No, they're not all lunatics who claim it's a bad thing to be a normal man.
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Jakyl25
01/12/19 3:47:43 PM
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Are you a normal man?
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ColZach
01/12/19 6:10:16 PM
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If youre such a nationalist Vlado why dont you keep your terrible opinions to yourself and your shithole country
Mr Lasastryke
01/12/19 6:36:58 PM
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Vlado posted...
No, I didn't, it was a repeat of the other posts I replied to...


i made my post before others like jakyl, though. if this is the logic you're using, you should have replied to me and ignored jakyl.
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Espeon
01/12/19 6:56:24 PM
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Espeon posted...
Espeon posted...
Espeon posted...
That whole post is completely lacking in substance. Just its globalism because it is.

But I want to respond to your post to Metal and get serious, without any underlying distaste for social politics from either side. You claim that globalism is a result of powerful corporate interests attempting to create a singular global government to make it easier for their greed to go unregulated. Okay. I will admit that is ONE possibility. But would you consider the following?

As it stands, the world has dramatically globalized (note, globalization is merely discussing the fact that modern technology, be it transportation or communication, has interconnected the world to a large degree. Globalization =/= globalism.). As a result of this interconnectivity, large corporations have far more options for how to maximize profits from their business. Given that distance is no longer the massive hurdle it once was, there is less need for closeness to be a factor in setting up shop, at least not on the front end of things.

With this in mind, we come to my argument. Corporate economics are a zero-sum game. A corporation only really needs to set up their factory or headquarters or whatever in one location, so theyre going to pick a location that offers them the most economic benefit. This gives the corporations a LOT more leverage and negotiating power when dealing with the places theyre seeking to establish their base. Countries or states or cities all want that corporation to take up residence with them, because that brings jobs and it brings in tax revenue. Thus, it becomes a bidding war. What location can offer the corporation the sweetest deal. No regulations? A low tax rate? Maybe even a monetary gift?

Ill use a contemporary example. Amazon is a massive corporation, but when they were looking to establish a new headquarters in America, suddenly delegations from around the country flew in to pitch their case. It became a race to the bottom: who could give the most to this multi-national corporation, just to ensure that what comparably minimal benefits went to THEM and no one else? Hell, theres a reason so much manufacturing is done in poor countries that need the money corporations bring.

You say that globalism benefits corporations because it allows the relaxation of ANY sort of check on their power. Id argue however, that this is EXACTLY how things work under a nationalist system. With all the different nations isolated from one another (often viewing each other as competition), they become ripe for the picking. Sure, you can take a moral stand and say no, youre gonna follow our rules or youre outta here, but then theyll call that bluff and find a sweeter deal someplace else. Again, these are extremely rich entities who have more mobility that any singular location, and countries need their influx of money far more than corporations need a particular countrys land.

Id argue that globalism is actually more detrimental to corporate power if anything. With everyone set apart as isolated units, as you pointed out, there are hundreds of sets of rules and regulations...so the corporation can choose the one they like best. But if you have a wider form of oversight, perhaps from a more overarching, global entity, then at least those regulations can become more uniform to the point where corporations cant abuse them any longer.

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Hardcore_Adult
01/12/19 7:00:03 PM
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^ Short of you flying from CT to Bulgaria and literally serving him with it, I don't think he's gonna read it.
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TheRock1525
01/12/19 9:02:31 PM
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Vlado posted...
?


Roe v. Wade was ruled in 1973.

We don't have post-birth abortions.
We won't ever have post-birth abortions.
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TheRock1525
01/12/19 9:06:26 PM
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Vlado posted...
Your support for killing babies in the 9th month is noted, however.


If either the mom lives or the baby lives, I'll pick the mother.
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ColZach
01/12/19 10:13:56 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Vlado posted...
?


Roe v. Wade was ruled in 1973.

We don't have post-birth abortions.
We won't ever have post-birth abortions.
Vlado
01/13/19 4:13:20 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Are you a normal man?

I'd say so.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i made my post before others like jakyl, though. if this is the logic you're using, you should have replied to me and ignored jakyl.

I replied to the one I first saw. Nothing personal. Accept my apologies if this is an issue. You know I like you better than almost everyone else here. :)

TheRock1525 posted...
Roe v. Wade was ruled in 1973.

We don't have post-birth abortions.
We won't ever have post-birth abortions.

OK. Looks like I misunderstood your post.

TheRock1525 posted...
If either the mom lives or the baby lives, I'll pick the mother.

That's not what I asked.

Meanwhile, globalist puppets from both parties (lol actually believing GOP-e and dem-e are any different, this is more proof) attack Gabbard:
https://www.rt.com/usa/448632-tulsi-gabbard-negative-reactions/
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Mr Lasastryke
01/13/19 8:49:38 AM
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Vlado posted...
I replied to the one I first saw.


ok, but my point wasn't exactly the same as the one jakyl and moogle were making. they were saying "you can commit crime with a gun, which doesn't require strength," i was saying "there's plenty of crimes that don't require strength at all (like tax evasion)."
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Vlado
01/13/19 10:14:57 AM
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Meanwhile, here's how Trudeau's treating the indigenous people of Canada:

The mothers plea to spend at least a few more minutes with her baby is rejected with a harsh and simple No.

The woman also isnt told when shell be able to see her child again. The girl is then placed in a baby car seat and taken away. Neither the mother nor her relatives try to resist the authorities, but cry and weep in sorrow.

https://www.rt.com/news/448683-indigenous-baby-seized-canada/

Remember, the Trudeau government is a role model for US leftists - it's the exact kind of government they want in the US!

Mr Lasastryke posted...
ok, but my point wasn't exactly the same as the one jakyl and moogle were making. they were saying "you can commit crime with a gun, which doesn't require strength," i was saying "there's plenty of crimes that don't require strength at all (like tax evasion)."

I checked and Moogle was talking about violent crime in the first place.
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