Board 8 > Anime & Manga Topic 208: Winter is coming

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BK_Sheikah00
01/11/19 3:14:36 PM
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It's a good way to judge
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swordz9
01/11/19 3:15:17 PM
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So Ive decided to mix it up a bit for anime watching for a little bit anyways. As soon as Im dunzo with Racist Roaches Im going to watch a show from Spring, then Summer, Fall and finally Winter until I either get bored of this or whatever. So basically my next 4 shows are these

Spring - Golden Kamuy
Summer - Angolmois
Fall - Gridman
Winter - Franxx
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:16:59 PM
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I wonder if Golden Kamuy ever got its shit together. Those opening episodes were such a turnoff.
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Bane_Of_Despair
01/11/19 3:19:35 PM
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Jojo with more body horror this week, good lord
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voltch
01/11/19 3:22:32 PM
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Weird seeing some Best Protags not qualify for best Boy or Girl.

Lot of overlap with us for AOTY though. Main difference is Bunnygirl was our firm #2 while here it looks more like an outsider show.
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:24:59 PM
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Bunnygirl was popular everywhere, including the Crunchyroll heatmap, so it's a curious exclusion other than Best Boy and Girl. Makes one wonder what internal bias may have factored into these picks.
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swordz9
01/11/19 3:25:49 PM
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It was just the bear that looked weird. The rest seemed solid enough. The main guy seems cool too
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:29:48 PM
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swordz9 posted...
It was just the bear that looked weird. The rest seemed solid enough. The main guy seems cool too


It's a great manga, but it wasn't just the bear. All the effects looked wierd. The animation was stiff, too, and most of the comedic moments failed to land from poor timing and audio direction. It was not good.
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 3:30:39 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Granzon judges anime largely by VAs, so he definitely did say.



beated both 5 Waifu and Dome Girl

out of the 5 waifus I sadly could only recognize two of them (Kuroneko and Shimakaze) even though I most definitely have heard of Kirino and Hestia they managed to mask their voices enough that I couldn't figure them out. the last waifu, the one with headphones, I have no experience with. seems like the best waifu so far.
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Mac Arrowny
01/11/19 3:32:49 PM
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Kamuy S2 seemed to have a better reception than S1, animation-wise.

LapisLazuli posted...
Bunnygirl was popular everywhere, including the Crunchyroll heatmap, so it's a curious exclusion other than Best Boy and Girl. Makes one wonder what internal bias may have factored into these picks.


It's not as popular with critics as with fans. I'd guess that's the reason.
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Robazoid
01/11/19 3:35:24 PM
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The first episode of Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka was pretty great (and I really, really hope it stays that way and I don't regret starting it later). I've had varying luck with dark magical girl anime. Yuki Yuna was amazing, Madoka was fine, and Magical Girl Raising Project and Magical Girl Site were both kind of crappy. Of those, Spec-Ops reminded me most of Magical Girl Site, except done way better. Unlike the others where the 'dark' aspect is treated as an early twist, Site went hilariously dark right away, and Spec-Ops kind of does that too. The problem with Site, for me, was that going dark was all it had. Once Site reached 'omega-dark' in literally the first two minutes, all that was left to hold it up was the quality of the anime itself, and Site... kind of sucked and wasn't worth watching.

Spec-Ops, meanwhile, has only gone 'half-dark' (these are very scientific descriptions, I know), and so far there's legit quality holding it up even beyond that. I'm enjoying the characters, how they're all set up, and the action scenes were intense. As someone who has frequently complained in here about anime being too dark, there were two 'dark' scenes here that were so over-the-top amazing that they gave me my biggest laughs of 2019. For me, that's dark done well! This is probably my favorite anime of the season so far.
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BK_Sheikah00
01/11/19 3:36:38 PM
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No way Kirino masked her voice. Now I gotta watch a clip
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/11/19 3:38:56 PM
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Robazoid posted...
Yuki Yuna was amazing, Madoka was fine,


Whaaaaaat? Yuki Yuna better than Madoka? Blasphemy.
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swordz9
01/11/19 3:40:33 PM
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I recall Goblin Slayer being all over those Crunchy maps too and it got nothing. A shame because it has a pretty great OP and didnt even make it into that.
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:40:59 PM
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I've been ignoring Spec Ops, but based on the OP it's a show I really hope is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjLPgurbf38" data-time="


Man I got a lot of shit to try, why couldn't Vesperia have come out Tuesday :p
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:42:42 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Robazoid posted...
Yuki Yuna was amazing, Madoka was fine,


Whaaaaaat? Yuki Yuna better than Madoka? Blasphemy.


Somehow I missed this.

Yeah....nooooooo. And I really like Yuki Yuna! It gave us this incredible moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWLZu-_GJ8" data-time="

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swordz9
01/11/19 3:42:47 PM
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Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Robazoid posted...
Yuki Yuna was amazing, Madoka was fine,


Whaaaaaat? Yuki Yuna better than Madoka? Blasphemy.

I liked YY way more as well though I liked Madoka even less than Roba
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:43:04 PM
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swordz9 posted...
I recall Goblin Slayer being all over those Crunchy maps too and it got nothing. A shame because it has a pretty great OP and didnt even make it into that.


Well yeah because it wasssssss not good.
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Robazoid
01/11/19 3:45:17 PM
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Yuki Yuna had everything I wanted out of a magical girl anime, and Yuki Yuna herself is still my second-favorite anime character (Tomoko from Watamote has the top spot on permanent lockdown so there's no shame in second).

Madoka was... just fine. Solid 6/10. The movie was the best part of the series.
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Popcorn_Fairy
01/11/19 3:46:45 PM
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I hated Yuki Yuna personally. I love dark edgy shit, and I call Madoka a 10/10. I went into Yuki Yuna expecting something similar. Instead of dark and grim magical girls stuff, I got a bunch of eps of happy slice of life trash with a few eps at the end where things actually got dark and grim, but then they remove all the consequences and everything is fine and everyone is ok. It was bullshit.
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voltch
01/11/19 3:48:02 PM
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Robazoid posted...
Yuki Yuna had everything I wanted out of a magical girl anime, and Yuki Yuna herself is still my second-favorite anime character (Tomoko from Watamote has the top spot on permanent lockdown so there's no shame in second).

Madoka was... just fine. Solid 6/10. The movie was the best part of the series.


Man you are rating Madoka really highly.
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Robazoid
01/11/19 3:49:04 PM
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YY spoilers I love stories where characters overcome the dark rather than being consumed by it, so those happy episodes even in the midst of everything else are a large part of why I love it. Yuki Yuna was such a trooper.

Out of curiosity, did you watch the prequel/sequel seasons? The first season was still really good but those were what made me love it, and I feel like they address your complaint about no consequences a bit.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:49:31 PM
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Washio Arc could have been good but it was unbalanced, and...like, it just doesn't work?? We know how it ends.

I didn't actually watch the second half that was the real YY sequel.
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 3:50:30 PM
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I'm on the side of Madoka being a permenant and unflinching part of the top 5 anime of all time, but I've never kept that secret.
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swordz9
01/11/19 3:52:13 PM
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Goblin Slayer was good. Hell only the first episode even has any rape stuff so its easy to look past it. The rest was all good stuff and Im looking forward to S2. Definitely a lot better than Fake Science knock off of a bad series
Popcorn_Fairy
01/11/19 3:52:41 PM
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Nah. When I watched it, there was just the one. And because I really, really didn't like it and felt like my time had been wasted, I had no desire to seek out the next season.
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Bane_Of_Despair
01/11/19 3:57:13 PM
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Goblin Slayer is like the definition of mediocre to me but I'll keep watching it
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 4:03:07 PM
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The most upsetting thing about the rape scene in retrospect is that it's used as a scapegoat for why people don't like the series. I don't like GS because I watched 5 episodes and it was boring and bland, but say that to the wrong person and they'll basically just spit back "whatevs you SJW snowflake, Goblin Slayer is the best anime of the year, get over it".

I'm not saying that goes on here, but it happens more often than I would like. Also why I got a little more testy when Voltch and Granzon were singing it's praises in excess, even if it was just in jest. We're lucky to have the community here we do.
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voltch
01/11/19 4:05:04 PM
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Goblin Slayer has better world building than Madoka
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WhiteLens
01/11/19 4:11:38 PM
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swordz9 posted...
Good example to me being Altria instead of Artoria. Altria just looks and sounds worse on every level.

Artoria was officially used in Fate/Extella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SksJmbO10xU" data-time="


My problem with Altria is that it's a name of a tobacco corporation.
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 4:13:47 PM
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Stop fucking around and just call her Arthur IMHO.
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WhiteLens
01/11/19 4:17:52 PM
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Not when an actual King Arthur exists in the Fate universe.
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 4:19:30 PM
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Mac Arrowny
01/11/19 4:20:52 PM
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Robazoid posted...

Out of curiosity, did you watch the prequel/sequel seasons? The first season was still really good but those were what made me love it, and I feel like they address your complaint about no consequences a bit.


Hmm, I don't really think that's the case. S2 ends with basically zero consequences as well. Washio arc does have some consequences, of course.

voltch posted...
Goblin Slayer has better world building than Madoka


nop
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Robazoid
01/11/19 4:24:39 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Robazoid posted...

Out of curiosity, did you watch the prequel/sequel seasons? The first season was still really good but those were what made me love it, and I feel like they address your complaint about no consequences a bit.


Hmm, I don't really think that's the case. S2 ends with basically zero consequences as well. Washio arc does have some consequences, of course.

I meant it added consequences to S1, they didn't just get to skip off into the sunset at the end of that. Poor Yuki went through hell in S2, I can't begrudge them for finally coming out the other side by the end of it.
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Mac Arrowny
01/11/19 4:29:16 PM
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It was exactly the same as S1 though. They're happy at first, suffer for the while, and end up super happy.
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 4:31:56 PM
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yea they released the REAL male Arthur in Fate so just call Saber Arthuria if they wanted a female version of the name that isn't butchered

LapisLazuli posted...
I'm not saying that goes on here, but it happens more often than I would like. Also why I got a little more testy when Voltch and Granzon were singing it's praises in excess, even if it was just in jest. We're lucky to have the community here we do.

I like to joke about AOTY because the label doesn't really mean much to me, especially when it's a controversial anime like GS

with that said I think people noping out of GS because of the rape are just soured by it and never gave it a full chance when by any other metric it's an alright anime

I don't know where I would rank GS but I'm thankful it gave me Sword Maiden and that's all that matters, the rest of the franchise could be shit for all I care
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 4:36:04 PM
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There are definitely people on the other side of the argument as well who saw that scene and just said fuck this. I can't really blame them, but they shouldn't then act as an authority of the anime and start spreading the anti-GS gospel either. This really is a case of both sides suck, and I just wish the people who legitimately liked it and legitimately did not weren't getting roped in with the extremists.

The CG was more offensive to me than the rape, and this is coming from the guy who was about to block swordz a few hours ago.
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 4:43:42 PM
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beyond the first episode the entirety of GS felt like Log Horizon, just solid world building but with mild fanservice peppered in, but of course most people watching GS (there's like 284k according to MAL) are probably doing so because it's by White Fox so they think it's going to be a PG-13 experience and are caught by surprise "oh no my virgin eyes"
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Bane_Of_Despair
01/11/19 4:45:52 PM
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The fanservice in GS is pretty damn blatant

The world building is....fine I guess but nothing exceptionally interesting so far to me
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 4:53:18 PM
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I can only remember two very blatant examples of fanservice, Purple Witch pulling things out of her breast and Sword Maiden everything which lasted maybe 15 minutes total

everything else like the rape (it's not fanservice to me) and childhood friend (this is the most nothing fanservice I've ever heard people accuse something of being fanservice) are not fanservice in my eyes
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Mac Arrowny
01/11/19 5:01:48 PM
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I dunno Priestess pees herself twice would definitely call that fanservice

GranzonEx posted...
beyond the first episode the entirety of GS felt like Log Horizon, just solid world building but with mild fanservice peppered in, but of course most people watching GS (there's like 284k according to MAL) are probably doing so because it's by White Fox so they think it's going to be a PG-13 experience and are caught by surprise "oh no my virgin eyes"


Log Horizon had much better worldbuilding. The action aspects are more comparable, with the heavy planning and such.
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swordz9
01/11/19 5:02:35 PM
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Goblin Slayer has way less fan service than most series. Theres not even enough to consider it fan service at all imo. Like there might be 3-5 mins combined of fan service with almost all of it being super short stuff like 2s of Cow Girls butt crack
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 5:13:03 PM
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Fan service is not noticeable enough in my eyes to be a negative for GS other than all the big tit characters having terrible character designs.

Sword Maiden is literally just Priestess with big tits, she looks like a hentai character.

I just really feel like the production was very lazy overall and I can't get over it. Some shows I can deal like Overlord, but something about a CG model for Goblin Slayer for mundane walking around just super rubbed me the wrong way. Nothing else looked particularly good either, in the first half of the series at least.

I think White Fox might have more misses for me than wins now? Goblin Slayer reminded me way too much of Grimmoire of Zero in regards to being a subpar production. I just think maybe they should just not do action anymore. Akame ga Kill looked fine, but the show itself was terrible.
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 5:16:18 PM
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tfw Akame ga Kill had better animation than GS

White Fox was awesome back in the day, didn't they do Jormungand? I remember that having cool action scenes
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GranzonEx
01/11/19 5:18:09 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I dunno Priestess pees herself twice would definitely call that fanservice

lmao I forgot about this

also kudos to GS for making me like Ogura Yui, finally she has a show where she isn't required to inhale helium before recording
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 5:23:52 PM
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GranzonEx posted...
tfw Akame ga Kill had better animation than GS

White Fox was awesome back in the day, didn't they do Jormungand? I remember that having cool action scenes


Yeah Jormungand has some good shit. Not every episode was winner on that front, but most were.

Maybe....maybe the issue is they shouldn't do fantasy? I feel like that's the actual divide on a White Fox show looking good. AGK was fantasy but not in the same way.
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LapisLazuli
01/11/19 5:28:28 PM
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Was about to make a big deal about "oh shit wait that Blackfox PV looks sick", but turns out I was remembering wrong and that's Studio 3Hz. Guess Fox threw my memory off.

....though hey, this Studio 3Hz anime looks sick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIeGmTv6-5M" data-time="

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swordz9
01/11/19 5:33:21 PM
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White Fox has more hits than misses for me

Hits/Good stuff

Steins;Gate
Jormungand
Is The Order A Rabbit
Devil Is A Part-Timer
Goblin Slayer

Duds:

Akame ga Kill

Havent seen some of their other stuff still though
LapisLazuli
01/11/19 5:55:20 PM
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What's the twist at the end of Pastel Memories I see people referencing?
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