Board 8 > Umineko Playthrough Topic

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Dels
01/06/19 7:44:34 PM
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like i'm not a prude

i played tsukihime and that has literal sex scenes

and yet it wasn't anywhere near as juvenile as this
Dels
01/06/19 7:53:26 PM
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We get officially introduced to Genji by Battler.

Genji fits the role of "stoic and mature" much better than Gohda does, so I'm sure they will continue to differentiate the two.

Still kinda boring tho.

Like Natushi, he's clearly going to be an important and serious character. Probably knows a lot of family secrets, plus has strong connections with all the other servants.

Probably not the killer. Though he could have spent his whole life waiting for his chance to... do whatever the killer's motive is.
Dels
01/06/19 7:54:52 PM
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Battler, looking at the painting of Beatrice:

"I couldn't have guessed her age, but her sharp eyes and the strong will she seemed to possess made her look youthful."

it's like he's describing the sprites of the 40-year old women in this game who are drawn to look 18
Dels
01/06/19 7:58:18 PM
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george gets a never-before-seen even *more* evil-looking tinted glasses sprite when we talk about beatrice and he wants to shut down the conversation
Dels
01/06/19 8:01:15 PM
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jessica says that beatrice is just a delusion invented by grandpa. hah, jokes on her, i know she's wrong 'cause i know beatrice is definitely real or else there wouldn't even be a game.

we enter the dining room, presumably to formally meet natsuhi (and hopefully, finally, kraus?)

i'm kinda tired though so i'll pause for now
IfGodCouldDie
01/06/19 8:30:39 PM
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I've never played this game, and have only ever heard about it through the other playthrough topic
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Reg
01/06/19 8:31:55 PM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
I've never played this game, and have only ever heard about it through the other playthrough topic

You should fix this! It's on Steam.
GANON1025
01/06/19 8:32:46 PM
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Battler is a pretty big creepster at the start. It's not very appealing, but that kind of stuff doesn't appear very often.
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MariaTaylor
01/06/19 10:44:38 PM
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battler sucks

Dels posted...
yeah sure, let's set the stakes to 11 for some tea, then see if we can go higher when there's an actual murder


lol
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Raka_Putra
01/07/19 12:38:37 AM
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Well it's not a bad thing to think and theorize a lot! I enjoyed these early parts of Umineko even though it's slow. It feels true to the big family experience.
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Dels
01/07/19 5:53:41 AM
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i tend to like the "slow" early parts in games. i guess for most people, i'm barely even anywhere yet, but personally i like intro phases. and yeah i want to try and solve the entire game before anyone even dies lol.

i've sort of accepted that boob talk is just a japanese thing, stuff like legend of heroes and danganronpa does it too but too a much lesser extent. it's just... embarassing.

also plz don't talk about future things in black bars? though i don't think IGCD was doing that i guess.
Raka_Putra
01/07/19 6:43:18 AM
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Yeah I don't know why they black barred that, it's not a spoiler.

I like how you already have your prediction of the story beats and character's fates. What kind of protagonist do you think Battler will be like?
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Dels
01/07/19 6:47:30 AM
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I mean

it's possible that Battler dies and someone else becomes the protagonist

Battler is very... unprotagonist-like. He doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to solve a mystery, much less doing any investigating. This is why I theorized that Jessica would be our main ally for the whole game, as she's much smarter, more relateable, more charismatic, and will have more of a drive to solve.

I guess he could die and she could just fully take over.

But I don't think that's necessarily the more likely option. I could see him having a growth arc type thing and becoming more mature. They're sort of building him as someone who secretly has actual ideals beneath his happy-go-lucky surface. The strong resentment he feels towards his father implies he has a sort of actual moral code.
Dels
01/07/19 6:48:19 AM
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Also Battler can't die because he needs to lead to Kanon realizing that not all rich people are bad
IfGodCouldDie
01/07/19 6:54:57 AM
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Dels posted...
i tend to like the "slow" early parts in games. i guess for most people, i'm barely even anywhere yet, but personally i like intro phases. and yeah i want to try and solve the entire game before anyone even dies lol.

i've sort of accepted that boob talk is just a japanese thing, stuff like legend of heroes and danganronpa does it too but too a much lesser extent. it's just... embarassing.

also plz don't talk about future things in black bars? though i don't think IGCD was doing that i guess.

I didn't. I spoiled the fact that I have never played this game.
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Tom Bombadil
01/07/19 7:28:42 AM
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I always forget how much boob stuff happens early on.

also ya go my jessica
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Dels
01/08/19 9:47:13 AM
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morning bump
Dels
01/09/19 9:57:59 AM
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daily bumparoo
Dels
01/10/19 10:18:25 AM
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boob bump
Popcorn_Fairy
01/10/19 10:04:13 PM
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Dels
01/10/19 10:32:14 PM
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might just be on the weekend. kinda busy.
Dels
01/11/19 10:00:33 AM
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morning bump
Dels
01/12/19 10:20:49 AM
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morning bump
Dels
01/13/19 10:53:50 AM
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morning bump

guess i'll continue this today
Raka_Putra
01/13/19 10:08:15 PM
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Hype.
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Dels
01/13/19 11:22:50 PM
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something came up =/

i'm not too tired though so i'll try to continue shortly!
Dels
01/14/19 12:24:38 AM
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Okay!

Picking back up at the dinner table, we're learning that this family is literally ranked in order of importance. (no wonder b8ers like this game!) And that interestingly enough, spouses don't get ranked above children. We also learn that Aunt Rosa actually does have a husband, he's just not coming (and is apparently not relevant since he gets no slot on the character chart - but i'm not forgetting this detail, in case it is important!)
Dels
01/14/19 12:25:49 AM
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Battler is apparently a feminist since he doesn't like that women are considered less important in this family tradition

Sure, a feminist who grabs all his female friends ( and 8-year olds he barely knows) breasts
Dels
01/14/19 12:27:14 AM
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Battler says: "All my memories of Aunt Natushi involve her talking to the adults about complicated things, with a scary look on her face."

funny, that's all she's done in the story so far too! how fitting. and i bet she's gonna do a lot more of it.
Dels
01/14/19 12:30:46 AM
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https://snag.gy/xh7RPF.jpg

i told you this dude was fucking overdramatic

"molest me not!!" lmao wtf
Dels
01/14/19 12:33:32 AM
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Krauss doesn't look like I expected?

He doesn't look like a common anime trope...?

Or he looks... more American?

hm. weird. am I the only one who felt this way? he looks like a different style than the other characters somehow. maybe its his hair style/color...
Dels
01/14/19 12:34:53 AM
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genji has to deal with a raving lunatic. feel bad for him actually.
Dels
01/14/19 12:35:54 AM
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setting up dat locked room mystery already by explaining how there's a secret switch in kinzo's room that locks the door

i'm into it
Dels
01/14/19 12:39:34 AM
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this just in, kinzo is the only person in the game who doesn't think george is the awesomest person to ever person

so i guess i'm cool with kinzo after all
Dels
01/14/19 12:39:59 AM
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i guess when you hate everyone it's easy to hate the same person i hate. whatever. i'll take it.
Dels
01/14/19 12:41:02 AM
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"And Maria is obscene to the eye!"

score another point for kinzo

come to think of it, i don't really like any of this game's characters, and neither does he, so honestly i'm with him on almost all of it though

kinda rude that he doesn't like jessica though, what did she ever do!
Dels
01/14/19 12:47:35 AM
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battler describes krauss as spiteful and violent.

plus krauss just looks like a jerk

can this game not have any likeable characters
Dels
01/14/19 12:51:26 AM
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sometimes i open up the character list and flip over to the original art just to marvel at how silly it is

anyway, i've filled out the entire character chart now

my prediction with krauss is kinda the same as some others; since he seems like a jerk, he is unlikely to be the killer, because that'd be predictable. but he's likely going to be a serious character who does some bad shit. i can see him being someone who dies early - now that i've met him, i don't feel there's room for much depth to his assholeness, and his wife is way more intriguing.

the doctor gets a spot on the chart - i was wondering if he'd show up beyond the prologue or not. i predict that he's not going to be a killer, or evil in any way. but not sure his role in the story. hm.
Dels
01/14/19 12:55:59 AM
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like the sick dude is gonna die, and then what do we need a doctor for? and the killer has no reason to kill the doctor, 'cause that'd be sort of weird. so i wonder if this doctor is gonna stick around the whole game or if they'll find a way to off him.
Dels
01/14/19 1:02:17 AM
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gohda says that because they enjoyed the roses from the garden so much, he used their petals to decorate their dessert

again, this is a metaphor. the roses are all a metaphor.

he took something beautiful they appreciated, and he tore it up and used it to create something beautiful... but by doing so, the roses were killed.

i don't know how, but you guys have played the game and i bet you i'm right that this metaphorically applies to something about the killings

it's also a dessert which he says has a mix of sweet and sour - because life can be both very pleasant, but also have awful parts. (like murder)
Dels
01/14/19 1:04:28 AM
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"This combination of sweet and sour was also exquisite.

If it was just sweet, you'd get used to it and bored halfway through.

But if you reached the sour sauce at that point, you'd get a really vivid taste.

And then, once you returned to the sweet sauce, all of the sourness in your mouth would be replaced with an enjoyable sweetness."

it's a metaphor for life and how if you have everything too easy (i.e. if you are rich like these characters), then it becomes boring, and bad things need to happen so that we can then feel good about returning to normalcy.

life needs both sweet times and sour times.

and that's what this game is about.
Raka_Putra
01/14/19 1:05:56 AM
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Dels posted...
like the sick dude is gonna die, and then what do we need a doctor for?

There's a lot of room for a doctor in a mystery story, wouldn't you say?

Dels posted...
He doesn't look like a common anime trope...?

Or he looks... more American?

He does look like a bit character who's an asshole businessman.
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Dels
01/14/19 1:07:54 AM
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kuma notes that shannon's hours were changed and she's getting an additional break for the afternoon, but that kuma wants shannon's help cooking anyway.

noting this in case a murder happens and the servant's schedule is important
Dels
01/14/19 1:08:33 AM
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Raka_Putra posted...

There's a lot of room for a doctor in a mystery story, wouldn't you say?



you're actually so right haha, anyone could get poisoned or hurt

in my mind i was like "people will be healthy up until they get murdered, then they're dead", but yeah
Dels
01/14/19 1:13:44 AM
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nanjo is trying to predict how long kinzo is gonna live for in weeks/months

i have the omniscient power of knowing this is a video game, so i bet you his life expectancy is "less than 24 hours"
Dels
01/14/19 1:15:47 AM
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natsuhi is showing genuine anger that people dare talk about father's likelihood of dying

to me this reads as genuine - she truly doesn't like the idea of him dying, and she considers it rude to even discuss

to me, this indicates she is not a bad person - she will not be a killer, and will not involve herself in any shady business unless she has a good reason for it
Dels
01/14/19 1:18:22 AM
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Kyrie tries to give her opinion and Rudolf tells her to shut up

unsure if just sexism because she's a woman, or because she's just a spouse

either way, i'm starting to feel maybe kyrie has ulterior motives and is infiltrating this family? feels like a plot thread that'd make sense if rudolf treats her badly
Dels
01/14/19 1:20:34 AM
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Krauss says that he can't believe father is thatsick, and that he seems lively enough to keep living for a long time.

Something about this statement feels false and out of line with the beliefs of every other character.

Therefore, I suspect Krauss is lying about his feelings, and likely has some sort of secret plan.

That said, Krauss is so obviously evil that I don't think his plan will happen.

As of now, I predict that Krauss will be the first to die - and his plans will be revealed only in death, and will help solve the mystery of why he died.
Dels
01/14/19 1:21:24 AM
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by "so obviously evil", I mean that there'd be no real mystery if the game went down a route of "is krauss bad, is he planning something", because clearly he's a jerk and he is. they'll pull the rug out from under us by killing him first

especially since he's the eldest and therefore first in line for inheritance stuff i assume
Dels
01/14/19 1:22:54 AM
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more metaphors - they're talking about cutting into his fortune like cutting into a birthday cake. you stick a knife in, but sometimes things like strawberries and toppings get in the way. this one's pretty blatant. life - things get in the way. or something profound like that.
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