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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 2:11:11 PM #1: |
All the senators and legislators still get paid, but the president and legislators on Capitol Hill still get their paychecks. They still get to relax and feed their families, pay their bills, and live comfortably while everyone else is scrambling to pay their bills and feed their family without a paycheck.
Next time we have a government shutdown, congressional salaries should be furloughed as well. Let these multimillionaires and billionaires sit high and tidy too. Not that itll do much as they have much more of a cushion to sit on, but at least its equal treatment. Theyre not above the law or better than everyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 12/28/18 2:15:51 PM #2: |
You're exaggerating.
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 2:18:51 PM #3: |
Veedrock- posted...
You're exaggerating. Am I? Prove it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 12/28/18 3:09:54 PM #5: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. Generally, burden of proof is on those making a claim, not those disputing it. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jramirez23 12/28/18 3:13:01 PM #6: |
ParanoidObsessive posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. I agree with PO. --- I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the votes, and how. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mover_of_Zigs 12/28/18 3:17:33 PM #7: |
Trump: Says a government shutdown is a sign of a weak president who is failing.
Also Trump: Shuts down the government Phase 3... Profit! --- Accept the Dumptruck as your Lord and Earth-Mover, that He may spare you in the time of the Great Demolition. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 3:18:12 PM #8: |
ParanoidObsessive posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. You could say that hes the one making the claim that Im exaggerating and Im the one disputing it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 4:22:03 PM #9: |
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/government-shutdown-faq/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f15127a227e1
What about members of Congress, political appointees and the president? Just for shits and giggles, as I'm being asked to defend this claim even though anyone can just Google it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 12/28/18 4:27:33 PM #10: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
Theyre not above the law or better than everyone else. In the UK, people of the house of lords and commons are above some laws, and relatively recently were immune to all laws. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 12/28/18 4:35:54 PM #11: |
Yes WastelandCowboy, the part I said you were exaggerating was obviously Congress getting paid.
That exert also proves Congress isn't acting "above the law" like you're claiming, as their payment comes from a separate bill than the expired federal budget. Your hole deepens. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 4:44:08 PM #12: |
Veedrock- posted...
Yes WastelandCowboy, the part I said you were exaggerating was obviously Congress getting paid. By should their payment come from a separate bill? If theyre not being paid the same way as everyone else, then theyre not playing on the same field, so to speak, and are thus above the law. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/28/18 4:48:14 PM #13: |
Veedrock- posted...
You're exaggerating. So your life wouldnt be disrupted if you just stopped getting your paycheck from your employer? --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 4:52:47 PM #14: |
Mead posted...
Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. Hes referencing the point I suggested about the president and politicians being above the law. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veedrock- 12/28/18 5:01:07 PM #15: |
Mead posted...
Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. Sure it would, but it's different for civilian cases. Government workers get back pay when the shutdown ends. The longest shutdown was 21 days, but they average around 8. They'll be back before long without missing a beat. WastelandCowboy would have you believe these people are jumping out of windows because they lost everything. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 5:06:10 PM #16: |
Veedrock- posted...
Mead posted...Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. Now you are the one exaggerating. I never said theyre jumping out of windows. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 12/28/18 5:26:25 PM #17: |
Oh look people bitching about the government shutdown. How has it effected you besides reading these shitty threads?
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 5:35:39 PM #18: |
Judgmenl posted...
Oh look people bitching about the government shutdown. How has it effected you besides reading these shitty threads? Had to cancel my trip to Yosemite for the weekend. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 12/28/18 5:51:55 PM #19: |
So you're gonna have a hissy fit because orange man bad because he wouldn't let you go to the park on in the middle of the winter?
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Mead 12/28/18 5:53:55 PM #20: |
Judgmenl posted...
So you're gonna have a hissy fit because orange man bad because he wouldn't let you go to the park on in the middle of the winter? By his own words the shutdown makes him a weak president #dealwithit --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 5:55:07 PM #21: |
Judgmenl posted...
So you're gonna have a hissy fit because orange man bad because he wouldn't let you go to the park on in the middle of the winter? How is any of what I said a hissy fit? I dont get a lot of time off. When I do, I like to travel. This year, I wanted to go to Yosemite. Not to camp or climb the wall, but to just relax and sightsee. Now I cant. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 12/28/18 5:55:36 PM #22: |
I'm sorry I'm just really tired of seeing people on the internet do nothing but bitch about how shitty their lives are. Why can't people just chill out and go with the flow?
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Mead 12/28/18 5:57:12 PM #23: |
Judgmenl posted...
I'm sorry I'm just really tired of seeing people on the internet do nothing but bitch about how shitty their lives are. Why can't people just chill out and go with the flow? You literally do this EVERY FUCKING WEEK Wah my life has no meaning, my mom is mean to me, theres still dog shit all over my carpet! --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade Duck 12/28/18 5:58:08 PM #24: |
Judgmenl posted...
I'm sorry I'm just really tired of seeing people on the internet do nothing but bitch about how shitty their lives are. Why can't people just chill out and go with the flow? +1 --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade Duck 12/28/18 5:58:57 PM #25: |
Mead posted...
Judgmenl posted...I'm sorry I'm just really tired of seeing people on the internet do nothing but bitch about how shitty their lives are. Why can't people just chill out and go with the flow? i mean yeah but whatever --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 6:00:25 PM #26: |
Judgmenl posted...
I'm sorry I'm just really tired of seeing people on the internet do nothing but bitch about how shitty their lives are. Why can't people just chill out and go with the flow? Because it sucks to have to cancel something youve made plans for and were looking forward to. Like I said, I dont get a lot of time off Im hourly and can barely get anything done during the weekend. This year, I wanted to sightsee in Yosemite and hike as theres less tourists and bears are hibernating. Cant do that now. The shutdown may be averted and my trip might be saved. I dont know. Its all hinges on if congress can get their shit together. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 12/28/18 6:00:29 PM #27: |
Veedrock- posted...
Mead posted...Veedrock- posted...You're exaggerating. I dont like having overdue bills and possibly getting I trouble because I dont have money. Or if I was waiting to get paid to get food. Just because they get back pay doesnt mean they wont be struggling until then. Sometimes, you need you money when you normally get paid. Some people even plan their bliss around their paycheck. It can really hurt a lot of people depending on how much they have and get paid. And how long it takes to pay them what theyre owed... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 12/28/18 6:00:49 PM #28: |
To be fair I really don't do it nearly as bad anymore.
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Mead 12/28/18 6:06:02 PM #29: |
Judgmenl posted...
To be fair I really don't do it nearly as bad anymore. Every week --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 12/28/18 6:39:08 PM #30: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
You could say that hes the one making the claim that Im exaggerating and Im the one disputing it. Except no, that would be the opposite of true. If someone disputes a claim you're making, you can't go "Oh yeah? Well I dispute your disputation, so now burden of proof is on you! I'm rubber and you're glue, no take backsies!" WastelandCowboy posted... Just for shits and giggles, as I'm being asked to defend this claim even though anyone can just Google it. If you can't be bothered to defend your own position, why should anyone else care what you think? I don't even necessarily disagree with your initial premise, but "You can go look it up for yourself" is rarely a valid defense of any position. If you care enough to make an assertion to people who never asked for your opinion in the first place, you're generally expected to support and defend said assertion. Because you're essentially asking other people to care, and you don't really accomplish that by telling other people to do unnecessary homework. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/18 7:01:43 PM #31: |
ParanoidObsessive posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...You could say that hes the one making the claim that Im exaggerating and Im the one disputing it. Yeah, that makes sense. Ill just stop posting my opinions if I cant be bothered to defend them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 12/28/18 7:10:30 PM #32: |
I give about as much of a shit about the public servants plight as they do when I have to deal with their snobbish asses.
--- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 12/28/18 7:12:27 PM #33: |
The_tall_midget posted...
I give about as much of a shit about the public servants plight as they do when I have to deal with their snobbish asses. Not all of the are snobbish, though... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/28/18 7:37:05 PM #34: |
Oh look schmen is absolutely outraged what else is new
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Nade Duck 12/28/18 7:57:10 PM #35: |
i don't think tall midget is schmen tho
unless i just haven't paid that much attention all these years, which is entirely possible. --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 12/28/18 8:10:11 PM #36: |
Nade Duck posted...
i don't think tall midget is schmen tho Mead is just another nobody that is obsessed with me. I kind of have that effect on the peons. Every time I post, he/she/it crawls out of nowhere and just does its best to get my attention. On the other hand, I barely acknowledge its existence. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oops_All_Berrys 12/28/18 8:10:38 PM #37: |
The_tall_midget posted...
Nade Duck posted...i don't think tall midget is schmen tho Ya ain't impressing anyone --- When you're such a mistake that God laughs in your face. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_tall_midget 12/28/18 8:12:00 PM #38: |
Oops_All_Berrys posted...
I don't try to impress, for I do not care about the opinion of unknowns. All I care about is that I give the little people a reason to live. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GreenKnight127 12/28/18 8:36:56 PM #39: |
I love when the government shuts down. Literally nothing changes. So that tells you just how useful the government really was in the first place.
--- "Think about everything you want out of life. Now think about how many of those things you want only because someone else told you to want them." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/28/18 9:15:50 PM #40: |
Nade Duck posted...
i don't think tall midget is schmen tho Ya know I saw what was being posted and assumed it was Troll_Police_ without really looking So thats on me --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/28/18 10:24:47 PM #42: |
lolwut? Last time they got backpay even for the time not worked. Not that I'd weep over most federal workers growing fat on my tax dollars taking a hit and having to get private sector jobs like everybody else.
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Mead 12/28/18 10:32:21 PM #43: |
Damn those smug elitists with their jobs at the post office
--- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssj4supervegeta 12/28/18 10:36:06 PM #44: |
Mover_of_Zigs posted...
Trump: Says a government shutdown is a sign of a weak president who is failing. Yeah for real. I was all on board with shitting on obamer and the congress when it shut down under him. it shut down now under trump and he's acting like he's doing a good thing. the fucking wall is a dumbass idea to begin with. shutting down the government is a byproduct of overly divisive politics. i'm rambling now tho. orange man bad. --- LoL summoner: Vejitables Wanna know why me rogers so jolly? hehe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smarkil 12/28/18 11:04:25 PM #45: |
Judgmenl posted...
To be fair I really don't do it nearly as bad anymore. You did it like two weeks ago. I'm fine with the shutdown because I'm of the opinion that the only government that's not a fuckup is one that's shutdown, but those idiots in congress shouldn't be paid. They should get to enjoy not having a paycheck like everyone else. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClarkDuke 12/29/18 12:22:25 AM #46: |
Zeus posted...
lolwut? Last time they got backpay even for the time not worked. Not that I'd weep over most federal workers growing fat on my tax dollars taking a hit and having to get private sector jobs like everybody else. Do you still get unemployment during the shutdown, Brett - color me curious, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrndNhbrHdCEman 12/29/18 5:24:48 AM #47: |
ClarkDuke posted...
Zeus posted...lolwut? Last time they got backpay even for the time not worked. Not that I'd weep over most federal workers growing fat on my tax dollars taking a hit and having to get private sector jobs like everybody else. Zeus's on unemployment? Makes his bitching bout "his taxes" hilarious. --- Official nosy neighbor and gossip https://imgur.com/uGKwGsK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 12/29/18 8:42:27 AM #48: |
I don't mind Congress and the President still getting paid. the most corrupt and rich won't care either way, but it could impact the few elected officials who aren't wealthy, and lead them into making bad decisions in their haste to escape oncoming debt.
What SHOULD happen though, is that if there is an impasse, then the existing spending levels are maintained while it's sorted out and the employees still go to work and get paid. If the president and/or some in congress are unhappy with the current spending levels and want to make a stand about it, put the onus on THEM to resolve it in a timely manner. Because otherwise each day that ticks by, the spending is done the same way. But of course, then they couldn't have nearly as much theatrics about the stand off, nor get jollies out of economically crushing middle class federal workers. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RCtheWSBC 12/29/18 3:09:35 PM #49: |
Yeah, federal employee here...y'all are some cruel sons of bitches.
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The_tall_midget 12/29/18 3:20:54 PM #50: |
RCtheWSBC posted...
Yeah, federal employee here...y'all are some cruel sons of bitches. Please fill and submit a "Please give a shit about our privileged, public servants asses" form. Please be warned that it may take 3 weeks for our incompetent, do not give a fuck employees to care and process it. --- "Whatever! Everyone is woman!" -Bimbo from Super Seducer : How to talk to women ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 12/29/18 3:25:05 PM #51: |
The_tall_midget posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...Yeah, federal employee here...y'all are some cruel sons of bitches. You seem to have a chip on you should shoulder. Like you make it seem like all federal employees just fucked you in the ass with no line or warning. Like literally all of them... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RCtheWSBC 12/29/18 3:28:34 PM #52: |
LinkPizza posted...
You seem to have a chip on you should shoulder. Like you make it seem like all federal employees just fucked you in the ass with no line or warning. Like literally all of them... All of the guvment is soooo bad all the time. I'm all about calling out inefficient or inappropriate shit going on on a federal level (hey, it's actually my job) but to have such a vendetta against every person with a federal paycheck is odd. --- https://imgur.com/1yl1fH0 the White-Sounding Black Chick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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