Poll of the Day > "loli hentai" is always joked about, but isn't just drawn child porn?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Like people make a million FBI jokes but I mean that's kinda what it is right
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Yeah.

Yeah, except there's levels of variance between basically flat-chested adults all the way down to exaggerated childishness and simulated child abuse.

There's also the upside that inherently a child isn't being abused in the making.
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Like people make a million FBI jokes but I mean that's kinda what it is right

The difference is that the law protects real children from exploitation not drawings of fictional characters.

This topic is going places.
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loli porn is just child porn, yes.
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Think of it this way:

Lab meat is still cow meat but it may be okay for vegetarians as an animal doesn't have to be harmed to make it.
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pretty sure kyubi is into drawn child porn
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Bulbasaur posted...

pretty sure kyubi is into drawn child porn

Lazy attack.
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yes drawings and child abuse are p much the same thing

you can like loli without being a MAP.
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Fam_Fam posted...

yes drawings and child abuse are p much the same thing

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Zareth posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

yes drawings and child abuse are p much the same thing

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it.
If someone got off on drawings of animals being mutilated, you'd expect them to move onto the real thing wouldn't you?
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.
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You say that like it's a bad thing
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

If someone got off on drawings of animals being mutilated, you'd expect them to move onto the real thing wouldn't you?

Absolutely. I know a guy who started getting into vore hentai, and now the only way he can get off is by swallowing people whole. His life is a nightmare.
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Zareth posted...

Fam_Fam posted...

yes drawings and child abuse are p much the same thing

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it.
If someone got off on drawings of animals being mutilated, you'd expect them to move onto the real thing wouldn't you?

No. Not always. For example, some may just like anime. And not real life humans. Or sometimes, they wont move to the real thing if its not convenient or easy to get. Or would be bad or wrong. Not saying that its good that the only reason is because they are lazy. But it does mean that it would be possible for them to not move on to the real thing, which actually is good.

Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.

If its off and they have to tweak it a little, they have to kill again to check and make sure it looks right.
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Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?
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we need to just ban children in general, everything is a giant slippery slope with them

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?

Or things like dragons and aliens?
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

Or things like dragons and aliens?

God is real 'cuz people cna draw pictures of God and that also means Muhammad is the only one that is definitely not real >.>
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Istillhateyou posted...

we need to just ban children in general, everything is a giant slippery slope with them

Yeah, they need to get their slip n' slide off my damn lawn.
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Lokarin posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Or things like dragons and aliens?

God is real 'cuz people cna draw pictures of God and that also means Muhammad is the only one that is definitely not real >.>

Didnt Jesus slay a dragon? So, those are probably real. Jesus probably killed them all. Or the last one.
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That's exactly what it is
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LinkPizza posted...

Didnt Jesus slay a dragon? So, those are probably real. Jesus probably killed them all. Or the last one.

According to former PotD Legend MarioFanaticXV, "scientific" depictions of dragons are actually based on dinosaurs, which Noah was able to get on the ark to save during the great flood, so it's entirely possible that Jesus did kill them all.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?

Or things like dragons and aliens?

I mean it's not like you can just come up with it out if the air, you need to understand how to draw people and study skeletons to get to that point, good artists have a shit ton of experience drawing people to understand how to draw an alien or a ton of references to draw a dragon or the like, it doesn't just come out of the air.
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

But if it's drawings of child abuse I mean there is something to it

Yeah, every time an artist depicts child abuse they have to actually abuse a child for reference.
Just like every time someone kills someone in a movie or video game, the creators actually kill someone to make sure it looks realistic.

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?

Or things like dragons and aliens?

I mean it's not like you can just come up with it out if the air, you need to understand how to draw people and study skeletons to get to that point, good artists have a shit ton of experience drawing people to understand how to draw an alien or a ton of references to draw a dragon or the like, it doesn't just come out of the air.

All graphic artists are pedophiles, I fuckin knew it, I've been saying this shit since the 80s

Zareth posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Didnt Jesus slay a dragon? So, those are probably real. Jesus probably killed them all. Or the last one.

According to former PotD Legend MarioFanaticXV, "scientific" depictions of dragons are actually based on dinosaurs, which Noah was able to get on the ark to save during the great flood, so it's entirely possible that Jesus did kill them all.

I did hear about that. Someone went to this place where they had a recreation of an ark. And explained how Noah was able to get everything on, including dinosaurs. Which means Robot Chicken might have been wrong when they showed Noah leaving the dinosaurs before the flood. But the explanation was kind of weird. Like, you just need two horse, and you could get all horselike animals, including horses, donkeys, Zebras, etc...
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Zareth posted...

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

If someone got off on drawings of animals being mutilated, you'd expect them to move onto the real thing wouldn't you?

Absolutely. I know a guy who started getting into vore hentai, and now the only way he can get off is by swallowing people whole. His life is a nightmare.

@mattressfucker

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Think of it this way:

Lab meat is still cow meat but it may be okay for vegetarians as an animal doesn't have to be harmed to make it.

That's actually a pretty good analogy. I like it.

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?

For more lifelike drawings, maybe, but hentai (and the manga/anime style in general) tends to be pretty heavily stylized, such that you can get away with anything that isn't obviously impossible (and quite a lot that is, if we're being honest). Provided you've got the basic proportions right (which are easy enough to figure out without needing naked kids), that should be enough.

Oops_All_Berrys posted...

I mean you have to spend years studying anatomy and understanding the human body, how do you get good at drawing children without references?

That's another thing, lolis are most commonly distorted and scaled down adult models following rules applicable to developed people.
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It's never really been my thing, but the way I see it, it boils down to being able to separate fiction and reality. Just like enjoying violent content, as long as you have the mental capability to keep it outside of the real world, that's all that matters.

Now if the interest starts to spill over to real life preteens or kids, then we have a problem.

Its also poor logic to say anyone into that stuff is automatically into the real thing or a pedophile, just like it would be to say anyone into violent games is a violent sociopath.
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*sees the train approaching the barricade on this one*
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And what? You want to make it illegal?
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...

Like people make a million FBI jokes but I mean that's kinda what it is right

No. It's a drawing.
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Victimless child porn I guess but still disgusting

FinalFantasyVII posted...

Victimless child porn I guess but still disgusting

That's an oxymoron.
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There are literally people out there who get off to cartoon animals being gutted.
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It's drawings of fictional characters who don't look like real people, aren't based on real people, and usually don't even act like real people.
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Well lolis aren't real but they are still a gateway to the real thing

FinalFantasyVII posted...

Well lolis aren't real but they are still a gateway to the real thing

So then playing violent video games leads to people murdering.
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Murdering people requires more than internet clicks so no those don't equate at all

FinalFantasyVII posted...

Well lolis aren't real but they are still a gateway to the real thing

I think you misunderstand people who are attracted to anime characters.

They aren't attracted to real people of the same age, they are attracted to the specific anime characteristics that don't exist in real people.

It's like saying straight men who think Astolfo is hot actually want to have sex with a real man in real life.


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FinalFantasyVII posted...

Murdering people requires more than internet clicks so no those don't equate at all

Same shit logic so nice try.
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FinalFantasyVII posted...

Well lolis aren't real but they are still a gateway to the real thing

In what sense? Sexualising children in a way that may lead a person in to "slipping" in to pedophilia? Dude, you're either in to children or you're not, it's not an acquired taste.
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FinalFantasyVII posted...

Well lolis aren't real but they are still a gateway to the real thing

Wrong.
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Sometimes
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Yes loli hentai is child porn.

It's not actual children so it shouldn't be a crime.

But we should also never openly accept the people who are interested in it. It's deeply disturbing to be attracted to loli hentai.

I think everybody should be required to publicly announce their fetishes so that we can all scrunch up our faces and say "Blegh, I don't like that person."
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I feel it isn't mentally healthy to have such interest but between discouraging/purging it and at least having said outlet where no one real is actually harm, I'm honestly am not sure which is the more practical of the two.

That being said, would it be fair to suggest that if some folks are into violent video games but in real life would never succumb to carrying out the real thing, that the same might apply to folks interested in fictional children but would never carry out the real thing? Might this actually be an apples to apples situation or still apples and oranges?
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