Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 22: Comfort and JOY!

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Dark Young Link
12/24/18 10:36:16 AM
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Lopen
12/25/18 9:38:08 PM
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Tag/Bump
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Dark Young Link
12/26/18 11:58:10 AM
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Smash is going to have me super distracted for a while I imagine.

(Makes it easier to save up again!)
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Yankees
12/26/18 10:28:47 PM
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Umbreon
12/26/18 10:34:00 PM
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Zzzzz

Small part of me is tempted to pull green because 2/3 of the units are ones I want(and worse case, I get green infantry fodder for someone).

Also temped to get azura so I can say her to bridal Ninian but I'll just get Camilla merges knowing desire sensor.
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Yankees
12/26/18 10:45:06 PM
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Camilla has hone fliers so I would definitely skill inherit any extras I got rather than merging them. I doubt Azura's sing skill will be inheritable either.
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12/26/18 11:11:40 PM
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Umbreon
12/26/18 11:12:23 PM
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Oh right gone fliers would be nice.

And I mean Azura's A skill. Currently I only have TA 3 as Bridal Nin's A slot.
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barreldragon88
12/26/18 11:48:14 PM
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Azura looks so good, art and kit wise...
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Yankees
12/27/18 11:32:32 PM
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Some changes to the merge system are coming in the next update. The first merge now grants three stat points in the unit's bane.

I have a few units that this change should benefit with a -Atk +Spd Innes at the top of the list
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Team Rocket Elite
12/27/18 11:43:44 PM
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https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/sites/fireemblem/files/2018-12/lv_1__40_legazura_and_ny.png
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SantaRPidgey
12/27/18 11:50:04 PM
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Literally everyone except my top three book II characters : (
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Lopen
12/27/18 11:51:06 PM
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Yankees posted...
The first merge now grants three stat points in the unit's bane.


Yessss

My +Spd/-Atk F Grima is gonna be so good (assuming already merged units retroactively benefit)

Bit confused how that works if you have something already merged though. Like uh. I have a +Atk/-Def Oboro I'd like to merge my +7 +Res/-Spd Oboro into. I would ASSUME that she'd get her bane wiped when going straight to +8 but with this game...

Does suck for units that can't get a bane though like TT guys. What do they get?
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Dark Young Link
12/27/18 11:56:34 PM
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Yeah that's pretty nice, sure softens the blow on crummy banes.

Now if only they would actually make it easy to tell which boon/bane each unit has at a glance....

Also upcoming update (Early January)

Beast units!

Some structures get an increased cap for Aether Raids. In addition to the Catapults(Level 4), Aether Fountain can be increased(Which gives you a max of 70 Aether restored every day)

New refines for Tailtiu, Julia, Deirdre, and Seliph.

Maybe the Naga users will get built in Mystic Boost? Tailtiu's refine could be interseting if she's retaining her Bladetome functionalityGive her Wrath for teh canon

Smolzura and Gharnef will be available via Heroic Grails

and that's about it.

Oh and

Legendary Heroes will receive a Mystic Effect when deployed with a Mythic Hero, so enjoy the new Azura always being boosted by f2p Fir. This of course also increases Lift gains.

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But at least Arena and Aether Raids will both start on Tuesday starting on 1/15/19 so no more forgetting to do Aether Raids because you're used to things ending on Monday. (The Aether Raid season on the 7th will be a day longer, before normalizing)
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Dark Young Link
12/27/18 11:58:04 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/sites/fireemblem/files/2018-12/lv_1__40_legazura_and_ny.png


Of course Hrid is cockblocking the one unit I"m interested in.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/28/18 12:09:40 AM
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Well they probably aren't doing a 5 character banner. It is likely that Hrid is the free unit.

Dark Young Link posted...
Which gives you a max of 70 Aether restored every day


For Tier 18, 19 and 21, this means 1 more battle a week. For Tier 20, this means 2 more battles a week. That's a lot smaller than I expected.
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Kenri
12/28/18 12:23:25 AM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/sites/fireemblem/files/2018-12/lv_1__40_legazura_and_ny.png

I hate this game.
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Lopen
12/28/18 12:25:57 AM
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Kenri posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/sites/fireemblem/files/2018-12/lv_1__40_legazura_and_ny.png

I hate this game.


Fire Emblem Heroes has never been summarized so succinctly
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barreldragon88
12/28/18 12:27:55 AM
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I hope the merge update is retroactive, but I feel like IS will be lazy and not make it so
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Lopen
12/28/18 12:29:01 AM
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If it's not retroactive I will quit the game mark my words.
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Dark Young Link
12/28/18 12:31:20 AM
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I believe it is retroactive.

About Previously Merged Heroes

"The expanded functionality will also have an effect on Heroes who were merged prior to the update. Heroes who were merged one or more times before the update will have their stats further increased after the update."

As silly as IS has been, I think they're smart enough to not figuratively shoot themselves in the face. Maybe not the foot, but screwing over previous +10 units would be the face.
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Lopen
12/28/18 12:34:02 AM
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I still want to know what the heck neutral/grail units get.

+1 Atk/+1 Spd/+1 HP would probably be the most fair but I could honestly see an argument being made for +1 everything being most balanced as spiking a stat tends to be better than going balanced

(or also a neat way to give that elusive neutral nature some upside)
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Lopen
12/28/18 12:42:27 AM
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Oh I found it

Neutrals get +1 to their two highest stats with the third being determined by the hero. Probably the third = their third highest stat, which I guess is the best way to do it. Still think +1 to all is arguably more balanced but whatever.
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barreldragon88
12/28/18 12:45:21 AM
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Cool. Grail Heroes not having natures is still super silly

Why oh why did we go back to four-unit refines again >______<
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Dark Young Link
12/28/18 2:29:41 AM
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As predicted, pitybroke by Summer Camilla. The least wanted unit in blues/greens I was pulling. So I'm not dumping anymore orbs into that, I'll give Hone Fliers to someone later(I still don't have much of a Flier Emblem team...).
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Grimmer
12/28/18 2:32:18 AM
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Picked up Fjorm (+Spd - Hp) and Azura (+Spd -Atk) with 50 orbs.

Probably going to wait on laguz now.

Dark Young Link posted...
I'll give Hone Fliers to someone later(I still don't have much of a Flier Emblem team...).


I have like four or five flier teams now. I'd take Camilla over Fjorm any day
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Lopen
12/28/18 11:10:52 AM
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Got Azura going for Hector. Figures! -Atk +Def. Not even sure what the good nature for her actually is I guess +Spd?

Anyway at least I have a decent water hero now I guess.
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barreldragon88
12/28/18 11:42:17 AM
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Free-pulled Camilla! Now i dont know if i should keep going for Azura
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KamikazePotato
12/28/18 2:54:10 PM
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Free pulled...Fjorm?

Woo?
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Xuxon
12/28/18 2:54:39 PM
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i also got an Azura in like 50 orbs. mine's the opposite of Yankees; +atk -spd.

opened the reds in the session with Azura, too, which emptied my orbs. not sure if i'll keep going for Marth; already have Tiki and i only sort of want Flora.
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Lopen
12/28/18 3:23:43 PM
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My Azura also took about 50 orbs. It's the magic number for Azura it seems.
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barreldragon88
12/28/18 6:00:36 PM
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I'm sure it'll take a lot more than 50 for me to get her. It's probably wiser for me to save for laguz
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Dark Young Link
12/29/18 8:42:21 PM
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Team Rocket Elite
12/29/18 10:34:20 PM
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New Year's Units trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVK_NxPLAd0" data-time="


The in game news update also says they are planning to sell an Orb bundle that contains New Years Fjorm and an Orb bundle with New Years Laevatein. No prices have been listed and there's no bundle for Gunnthr.
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Dark Young Link
12/30/18 12:23:32 AM
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Bundles are apparently $75 each. If you're a frequent spender, maybe it'll entice you.

While the 200 grails are somewhat tempting.... I'd rather buy a switch game then drop $75 on this game right now.

Also those bastards are cockblocking Gunnthra and I'm not rewarding that.
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barreldragon88
12/30/18 1:07:07 AM
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That's a nice middle finger to ftp players. $75???!!! What a fucking joke
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KamikazePotato
12/30/18 1:14:13 AM
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Dark Young Link posted...
Bundles are apparently $75 each.


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Team Rocket Elite
12/30/18 1:46:32 AM
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$75 is the normal price for the 140 Orb package. The "deal" part is they are adding a 5* unit and some feathers in as well. If you get the Laevatein package, you gets some Grails as well.
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Lopen
12/30/18 2:08:01 AM
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Honestly the only offensive thing about the bundles is the one that gives Aether Stones that's yet more direct pay to win in the mode. Otherwise they're just orbs that have always been overpriced with some extras
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barreldragon88
12/30/18 12:03:11 PM
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You mean the offensive thing is trying to get f2p players buy the bundle with the Grails. They have been releasing really good f2p units as of late, probably on purpose to get people to spend money to merge them up
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WhiteLens
12/30/18 12:23:29 PM
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barreldragon88 posted...
That's a nice middle finger to ftp players. $75???!!! What a fucking joke

Dude, if youre truly F2P, you wouldnt be spending anything anyways, so it doesnt matter to those people.

I always see mobile games do this, with having a bundle that would give you stuff for the same price of buying the premium currency. Putting it on such a high price is scummy but it happens.
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Team Rocket Elite
12/30/18 12:58:00 PM
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Lopen posted...
Honestly the only offensive thing about the bundles is the one that gives Aether Stones that's yet more direct pay to win in the mode. Otherwise they're just orbs that have always been overpriced with some extras


I think it is insulting for the opposite reason. Aether Stones aren't that useful anymore. If a person has been keeping up near the top tier, they already have enough stones for 5 units on Offense and 6 on Defense. After that what matters most is having a second (or more) Eir and Aether Stones don't help with that. Upgrading your buildings or fortress helps but it isn't likely to make or break you for reaching the next tier.
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Lopen
12/30/18 1:39:09 PM
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Most buildings are whatever but upgrading the fortress makes a big difference. My defense being at 3+1 is what let me get to tier 18 this week. Not paying the 80 lift tax every day helps a lot.
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Kenri
12/30/18 1:54:17 PM
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I don't know that I'd pay $75 for a 5* copy of every single unit in the game plus 1000 orbs. Still no idea who the audience for premium currency in mobile games even is.
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KamikazePotato
12/30/18 1:57:42 PM
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Kenri posted...
I don't know that I'd pay $75 for a 5* copy of every single unit in the game plus 1000 orbs. Still no idea who the audience for premium currency in mobile games even is.

1. Rich people
2. Gambling addicts
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WhiteLens
12/30/18 2:03:41 PM
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Considering that people have spent well over $100 chasing after characters, probably in this game even, $75 would sound good to them, and they still get orbs that they can use for other characters.

If FE Heroes ends up placing really high on the Top Grossing charts because of this, then these bundles are working.
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Kenri
12/30/18 2:09:08 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Kenri posted...
I don't know that I'd pay $75 for a 5* copy of every single unit in the game plus 1000 orbs. Still no idea who the audience for premium currency in mobile games even is.

1. Rich people
2. Gambling addicts

Okay I get #2 but if you're rich you can just drop $75 on like... better games. Though I guess if you're rich you can just do both, probably.
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KamikazePotato
12/30/18 2:27:21 PM
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I like this image

https://i.redd.it/ysscd435vd721.jpg
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Lopen
12/30/18 3:18:38 PM
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I used to get the 12.99 monthly deal just because I was enjoying the game at the time. Now the game has kinda alienated me through shady design decisions but like, I still spend money on Record Keeper every few months to get the preselected Ultra relics (about $30 a pop). But I enjoy record keeper a lot more than this game so yeah I wouldn't be spending on this one right now anyway

The way I see it if you're consistently getting enjoyment out of the game it's fine to spend a bit every once in a while to support the game and get a bit of pop out of it
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