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Anti-245
12/18/18 3:29:05 AM
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What are some common myths that your hear about ww2?
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AvantgardeAClue
12/18/18 3:29:51 AM
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Women fought on all the frontlines
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Bananana
12/18/18 3:30:31 AM
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America/the allies did nothing wrong during WWII
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Ryetoast
12/18/18 4:00:07 AM
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French are cowards.
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cjsdowg
12/18/18 4:05:25 AM
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America singled handled saved the day.
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hockeybub89
12/18/18 4:08:03 AM
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Nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians is not a war crime because it ended the war and was done by the good guys
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kayoticdreamz
12/18/18 4:10:52 AM
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inb4holocaust
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RiderofHogs
12/18/18 4:11:31 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians is not a war crime because it ended the war and was done by the good guys

We warned them several times before the first bomb, and even again before the second one.
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Irony
12/18/18 4:20:18 AM
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Russia joining the allies because they're good
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KillerKhan420
12/18/18 4:20:26 AM
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Ryetoast posted...
French are cowards.


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Anti-245
12/18/18 4:57:19 AM
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Anyone heard that lie about saving democracy during this war?
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spikethedevil
12/18/18 5:11:41 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
America singled handled saved the day.

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Zikten
12/18/18 5:18:05 AM
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That Hitler only killed Jews

They exterminated other groups too like Gypsies, gays, and the disabled
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
12/18/18 5:26:16 AM
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Zikten posted...
That Hitler only killed Jews

They exterminated other groups too like Gypsies, gays, and the disabled

Which is why in the Doctor Who episode "Let's Kill Hitler", you had River Song's immortal line "Well, I was on my way to this gay Gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled, when I suddenly thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think I'll kill the Fuhrer.' Who's with me?"
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Firewerx
12/18/18 3:34:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
That Hitler only killed Jews

They exterminated other groups too like Gypsies, gays, and the disabled


Gay people were not targets for physical extermination as part of Nazi policy, even though many died in the concentration camps and they were sometimes used as human guinea pigs for medical experiments (particularly ones that attempted a "cure" for homosexuality).

What the Nazis did was to tighten up Paragraph 175 of the Reichs 1871 Penal Code, which was enforced more stringently by the police and the courts after 1933; but putting gay men in prison for being gay was hardly a Nazi (or even German) innovation. The 1933 Law Against Dangerous Habitual Criminals and Measures for Protection and Recovery gave courts the power to order the compulsory castration of gay men who were convicted of homosexual acts in public or with boys under 14, and the 1935 Amendment to the Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases allowed the castration of gay men who (theoretically) consented to the procedure.
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Firewerx
12/18/18 3:57:00 PM
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One myth is that whenever the Allied western democracies occupied Axis territory, they immediately overturned the regimes they found in place there and flung open the gates of the prisons and concentration camps to liberate the inmates. Not in North Africa, they didn't.

After Operation Torch (the Allied invasion of North Africa) in November 1942, the US left the Vichy French administration there intact because of the ceasefire deal that Robert Murphy (Eisenhower's adviser on political affairs) struck with Admiral Franois Darlan. It meant strict non-interference by Americans in local affairs. So GIs in Algiers stood by, watched and did nothing as Vichy policemen rounded up the Resistance fighters who, on the eve of the Allied landings, had risked their own lives to save American ones. Many of the 377 fighters were later dragged off to punishment camps in the Sahara.

Meanwhile in Morocco there were there were fascist pogroms in Casablanca (just moments after the first parade of American troops had passed by the city's Jewish quarter) and in Rabat and Sale, and new anti-Jewish measures were put in place in Meknes and Fez by the US-endorsed regime. Jews and other detainees were still rotting in slave camps in the Sahara as late as August 1943, ten months after the Allied "liberation", because the American troops who garrisoned the country didn't lift a finger to free them. Instead, it was up to de Gaulle's French National Liberation Committee to finally free Vichy detainees shortly after it took control.
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vocedelmorte
12/18/18 3:57:41 PM
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Americans won the war
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catboy0_0
12/18/18 3:58:14 PM
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that America hadn't been declared war on before the Pearl Harbor attack
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Tyranthraxus
12/18/18 4:01:31 PM
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Pearl Harbor was unprovoked
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DevsBro
12/18/18 4:06:02 PM
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Some of you guys have been listening to some real nincompoops lol.
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Anti-245
12/19/18 1:12:27 AM
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Firewerx posted...
One myth is that whenever the Allied western democracies occupied Axis territory, they immediately overturned the regimes they found in place there and flung open the gates of the prisons and concentration camps to liberate the inmates. Not in North Africa, they didn't.

After Operation Torch (the Allied invasion of North Africa) in November 1942, the US left the Vichy French administration there intact because of the ceasefire deal that Robert Murphy (Eisenhower's adviser on political affairs) struck with Admiral Franois Darlan. It meant strict non-interference by Americans in local affairs. So GIs in Algiers stood by, watched and did nothing as Vichy policemen rounded up the Resistance fighters who, on the eve of the Allied landings, had risked their own lives to save American ones. Many of the 377 fighters were later dragged off to punishment camps in the Sahara.

Meanwhile in Morocco there were there were fascist pogroms in Casablanca (just moments after the first parade of American troops had passed by the city's Jewish quarter) and in Rabat and Sale, and new anti-Jewish measures were put in place in Meknes and Fez by the US-endorsed regime. Jews and other detainees were still rotting in slave camps in the Sahara as late as August 1943, ten months after the Allied "liberation", because the American troops who garrisoned the country didn't lift a finger to free them. Instead, it was up to de Gaulle's French National Liberation Committee to finally free Vichy detainees shortly after it took control.

I've heard similar events happened in Greece in 1944-5.
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Crimson_Angel
12/19/18 1:13:07 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
America singled handled saved the day.

It's gone in the opposite direction now with the USSR.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/19/18 1:15:13 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians is not a war crime because it ended the war and was done by the good guys


Fire bombing Tokyo killed more people than the bombs, but i guess they didn't have a mushroom cloud image to go along with them so they aren't seared on the minds of silly milennials.
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hockeybub89
12/19/18 1:27:14 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians is not a war crime because it ended the war and was done by the good guys


Fire bombing Tokyo killed more people than the bombs, but i guess they didn't have a mushroom cloud image to go along with them so they aren't seared on the minds of silly milennials.

Haha you sure got those millennials. They can't even rank the various deaths of many innocents properly on the Bad-o-meter!
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
12/19/18 2:20:32 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Nuking hundreds of thousands of civilians is not a war crime because it ended the war and was done by the good guys


Fire bombing Tokyo killed more people than the bombs, but i guess they didn't have a mushroom cloud image to go along with them so they aren't seared on the minds of silly milennials.

Firebombing was something the Imperial Army could understand. The atomic bombs were literally unprecedented in the history of warfare, and they had no idea whether or not America could just keep wiping out their cities in the time it takes to snap your fingers.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/19/18 2:41:09 AM
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And they chose to risk the life of every single person in Japan on the gamble that they couldn't. Even though they knew it was impossible for them to win the war at that point.
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SaithSayer
12/19/18 2:43:37 AM
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We only won with the help of dinosaurs.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
12/19/18 2:57:04 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
And they chose to risk the life of every single person in Japan on the gamble that they couldn't. Even though they knew it was impossible for them to win the war at that point.

Yes, which was why Hirohito had to step in and personally deliver the message of surrender to the nation.
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NibeIungsnarf
12/19/18 3:00:05 AM
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Okay?

Not sure what you're getting at.
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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC
12/19/18 3:01:40 AM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Okay?

Not sure what you're getting at.

Not sure what you're getting at either. The High Command wanted to keep fighting, but they were overruled.
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WaterLink
12/19/18 3:13:33 AM
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Hitler and Jesse Owens always fascinated me.
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TwixDawg
12/20/18 4:32:42 AM
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like everything.
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