Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 210: HQ of the War on Christmas

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Jakyl25
12/15/18 2:55:10 PM
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Happy Holidays!
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Ashethan
12/15/18 3:02:58 PM
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All Holidays Matter!
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Corrik
12/15/18 3:03:19 PM
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You guys hate Christmas because you were naughty kids.
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SgtSphynx
12/15/18 4:13:19 PM
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I hate Christmas because of the Christmas music that plays leading up to and on my birthday
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ChaosTonyV4
12/15/18 4:16:07 PM
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Corrik posted...
You guys hate Christmas because you were naughty kids.


Do you have to hate Christmas to respect all Holidays?

#AllHolidaysMatter
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TotallyNotMI
12/15/18 4:17:10 PM
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Tag
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red sox 777
12/15/18 4:18:41 PM
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Just wait until we get a few more activist justices on the Supreme Court to legislate from the bench. We will have mandatory church attendance on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. If you don't go you will have to pay a nonattendance tax that will make your Obamacare premiums look cheap.
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kevwaffles
12/15/18 4:29:25 PM
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The sad thing is I think you think you're actually funny.
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pxlated
12/15/18 4:46:28 PM
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he absolutely thinks he is funny
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Corrik
12/15/18 5:31:27 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Corrik posted...
You guys hate Christmas because you were naughty kids.


Do you have to hate Christmas to respect all Holidays?

#AllHolidaysMatter

If you can't put the Christ in Christmas, then I doubt you actually think all holidays matter truly!
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Suprak the Stud
12/15/18 11:52:50 PM
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kevwaffles posted...
The sad thing is I think you think you're actually funny.


This is the true tragedy of Red Sox.

I'm not entirely convinced he isn't Mike Huckabee tbqh.
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Jakyl25
12/16/18 1:28:27 PM
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1074302851906707457?s=21

A REAL scandal is the one sided coverage, hour by hour, of networks like NBC & Democrat spin machines like Saturday Night Live. It is all nothing less than unfair news coverage and Dem commercials. Should be tested in courts, cant be legal? Only defame & belittle! Collusion?


What an idiot

People honestly think this man loves America more than himself
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Peace___Frog
12/16/18 2:33:13 PM
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Honestly, the reason I dislike the holiday season is because it brings more people onto the roads and turns a 30 minute drive into a 90 minute drive on weekends.
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Mr Lasastryke
12/16/18 5:10:53 PM
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Should be tested in courts, cant be legal?


again, i find shit like this fucking scary.

the fact that trump is constantly harping on the point that commercial media outlets having an opinion on politics "should be tested in courts" and "can't be legal"... ugh.
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Corrik
12/16/18 5:11:50 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
Honestly, the reason I dislike the holiday season is because it brings more people onto the roads and turns a 30 minute drive into a 90 minute drive on weekends.

Nobody will ever accuse you of being self-centered!
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Maniac64
12/16/18 5:53:01 PM
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How dare SNL be biased! All comedy must give equal time to all sides of an issue!
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pxlated
12/16/18 5:54:15 PM
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Collusion??????????????????
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Mr Lasastryke
12/16/18 5:58:11 PM
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Maniac64 posted...
How dare SNL be biased! All comedy must give equal time to all sides of an issue!


also really convenient that NBC is his example of a biased major news network that "can't be legal"
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LordoftheMorons
12/17/18 12:48:30 AM
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1074401228224950272

Now he's implying that Rod Blagojevich was the victim of an overzealous criminal justice system?

I guess they both did have things that were fucking golden...
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Umitencho
12/17/18 11:58:28 AM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Happy Holidays!

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Corrik
12/17/18 12:31:41 PM
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https://www.epi.org/publication/aluminum-tariffs-have-led-to-a-strong-recovery-in-
employment-production-and-investment-in-primary-aluminum-and-downstream-industries/

Downstream negatives of aluminum tariffs seem nonexistent.
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MenuWars
12/17/18 1:02:33 PM
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Maybe Trump will be arrested on Christmas like a gift to the world.
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pyresword
12/17/18 2:51:08 PM
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MenuWars posted...
Maybe Trump will be arrested on Christmas like a gift to the world.

Man my family Christmas dinner is going to be "fun" if this happens.
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SgtSphynx
12/17/18 4:55:33 PM
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MenuWars posted...
Maybe Trump will be arrested on Christmas like a gift to the world.

It'd be one of the best birthday presents for me ever
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red sox 777
12/17/18 6:25:56 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1074401228224950272

Now he's implying that Rod Blagojevich was the victim of an overzealous criminal justice system?

I guess they both did have things that were fucking golden...


Trump can pardon him! Start with a Democrat and call it fair and balanced.
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Umitencho
12/17/18 8:20:20 PM
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Can't pardon state crimes.
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Jakyl25
12/17/18 9:31:16 PM
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GildedFool
12/17/18 9:52:59 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/indyusa/status/1073220371388739585?s=21

Now this is a headline

I... uhhh.... ummm...

I got nothin'.
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LordoftheMorons
12/18/18 12:24:28 AM
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https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1074797494448676864
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 2:02:32 AM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/advertisers-ditch-fox-news-tucker-carlson-for-saying-immigration-makes-us-dirtier

I feel like eventually no one is gonna advertise on these shows.
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Peace___Frog
12/18/18 9:50:44 AM
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There's still far too many advertisers - some of which have nice PR "inclusion and diversity" pages on their websites - that have put out statements saying they won't remove advertising and instead will continually monitor and assess the show
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Paratroopa1
12/18/18 9:58:22 AM
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Peace___Frog posted...
There's still far too many advertisers - some of which have nice PR "inclusion and diversity" pages on their websites - that have put out statements saying they won't remove advertising and instead will continually monitor and assess the show

oh well at least some of them were honest and were like 'uh we don't care, we're just here to make money'

which is, truthfully, what ALL of them are doing, some are just employing the strategy of pretending to care about social messages (they don't)
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LapisLazuli
12/18/18 10:02:48 AM
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 11:00:05 AM
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https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/12/18/cohen-may-have-lost-his-alibi-on-prague-trip/

Not sure how reputable this site is but every time more of the Steele Dossier gets confirmed I get a little more excited.
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Peace___Frog
12/18/18 1:37:11 PM
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So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?
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LordoftheMorons
12/18/18 1:38:30 PM
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Whenever theyre next on air
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 1:46:51 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?


Yeah the whole fiasco of Flynn claiming that he was deliberately misled into lying is hilarious when the FBI interview showed the agents interviewing him were literally trying to coax him into the RIGHT answers and he still chose to lie.
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Peace___Frog
12/18/18 1:57:23 PM
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This is also a great time for the "if you're fighting the fbi then you're losing" tweet from Sarah Sanders a few years back
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red sox 777
12/18/18 2:45:01 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?


Yeah the whole fiasco of Flynn claiming that he was deliberately misled into lying is hilarious when the FBI interview showed the agents interviewing him were literally trying to coax him into the RIGHT answers and he still chose to lie.


I think this is as good a time as any to bring up that this is a real incongruity in our justice system. If anyone but a prosecutor was coaxing witnesses into giving answers they want in exchange for something of value (like not going to prison), it would be considered witness tampering.

And I thought Blagojevich was prosecuted in federal court? Trump can start by pardoning him. Might as well issue a blanket pardon for all offenses related to campaign finance law, under the grounds that the president believes the law is unconstitutional. Andrew Johnson issued a blanket pardon for everyone who fought against the US in the Civil War, so it can be done.
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 3:48:40 PM
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red sox 777 posted...
I think this is as good a time as any to bring up that this is a real incongruity in our justice system. If anyone but a prosecutor was coaxing witnesses into giving answers they want in exchange for something of value (like not going to prison), it would be considered witness tampering.


They weren't trying to coax answers out of him that they wanted. They were trying to get him to give the answers that weren't actually lies.
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TheRock1525
12/18/18 3:49:15 PM
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Basically they were trying to jog his memory to give the correct answers and he still chose to lie.
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Peace___Frog
12/18/18 4:05:29 PM
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Red Sox deliberately choosing to misrepresent something? Let me clutch my pearls.
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Not_an_Owl
12/18/18 4:51:06 PM
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The Trump Foundation is dead after having done a whole bunch of illegal shit with money.

I don't have any big takeaway from this, just schadenfreude.
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Suprak the Stud
12/18/18 4:55:13 PM
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-martha-mcsally-appointed-to-open-arizona-senate-seat

McSally is going to the senate anyway! This was a very obvious appointment, but still feels a bit weird considering she just got beaten up a bit by Sinema.
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Suprak the Stud
12/18/18 4:58:16 PM
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U.S. Rep. Ruben Gallego, former astronaut and current gun control advocate Mark Kelly and former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods, who left the GOP this year, have all considered running as Democrats for the post.


Some interesting choices there. Grant Woods is definitely in the Sinema mold of democrat considering he was very recently a republican, and I think McSally might have some trouble with him in 2020. I don't know enough about the other two.
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Suprak the Stud
12/18/18 5:05:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMc-ioGrudY" data-time="


Pretty good questions from the Arizona news teams here, I think.
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Logience
12/18/18 5:11:31 PM
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Would it be acceptable to use the term "libt*rd" on libertarians?
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xp1337
12/18/18 5:40:21 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?

Just checked in on how this all went down and wow that was a swerve. It almost can't be understated how disastrously that went for Flynn.

Judge point-blank made him answer whether he knew lying to the FBI was a crime (He did) and if he believed he was entrapped (He didn't.) Said he arguably sold his country out. Asked Mueller's prosecutor there if the SCO felt Flynn's actions could be charged under treason and if they considered it. (They were like "uhhhhh that's a serious question so we're hesitating to answer." Before later saying, we don't think so.) Judge stated how he disagreed with how Petraeus had gotten out of felony charges for his case (Flynn's lawyers had brought him up to compare to Flynn)

Flynn took the Judge's offer of a recess and came back to take the Judge's offer to "delay sentencing in the hopes he can point to further cooperation as credit" (Next status hearing is in March)

remember the special counsel's office recommended no jail time and this all happened.
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Calintares
12/18/18 5:42:04 PM
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I'm glad I live in a country where the name for this holiday is named after the pagan Yule. makes it easy to show the distinction between celebrating Christ-mass and celebrating Yule.
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red sox 777
12/18/18 5:49:43 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Peace___Frog posted...
So we have flynn being sentenced, and the judge presiding over it has been a darling of the fox news / breitbart folks - but he's said that flynn is arguably a traitor to this country so their faith may be misplaced. Any bets on how long until they begin pretending that the judge has been a Democrat in disguise all along?

Just checked in on how this all went down and wow that was a swerve. It almost can't be understated how disastrously that went for Flynn.

Judge point-blank made him answer whether he knew lying to the FBI was a crime (He did) and if he believed he was entrapped (He didn't.) Said he arguably sold his country out. Asked Mueller's prosecutor there if the SCO felt Flynn's actions could be charged under treason and if they considered it. (They were like "uhhhhh that's a serious question so we're hesitating to answer." Before later saying, we don't think so.) Judge stated how he disagreed with how Petraeus had gotten out of felony charges for his case (Flynn's lawyers had brought him up to compare to Flynn)

Flynn took the Judge's offer of a recess and came back to take the Judge's offer to "delay sentencing in the hopes he can point to further cooperation as credit" (Next status hearing is in March)

remember the special counsel's office recommended no jail time and this all happened.


He sounds like one of those law and order judges. Although, this doesn't really help Mueller's position. If defendants can't trust that their deal with the special counsel will keep them out of prison because it might be overturned by a judge, they'll be less willing to make deals. If Mueller's investigation is really in its closing stages though, that might not matter to him.
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