Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323

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Not_Wylvane
12/14/18 2:55:02 PM
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Cloud has improved on Link. Thus if we assume this pattern continues, then every future poll will have Cloud always improving up until he eventually beats Link. If we continue and have Cloud keep rising, eventually we'll reach a point where the number of polls Link wins is equal to the number of polls Cloud wins. Do one more poll, and suddenly Cloud has won more polls than Link, making Cloud the legit #1 character on GameFAQs.

Thus, this poll proves Cloud > Link.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis, and others)*~
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~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim*~
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~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends
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Zylothewolf
12/14/18 2:56:40 PM
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Cloud > Samus is all that matters.
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Not_Wylvane
12/14/18 3:06:37 PM
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Cloud > Zelda > Mario > Samus is already confirmed though.

The only thing left to do is confirm that Cloud > Jay Solano.
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The_Ctes
12/14/18 5:19:16 PM
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I asked two topics back in the opening post if anyone could break 40% on Link. People said no. And while it didn't happen at first, well, Cloud did it! It would've been so disappointing years ago, but today, it's an accomplishment. Congrats, Cloud!
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BlAcK TuRtLe
12/14/18 5:27:14 PM
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Honestly, if we just skip next year and go right into GotD2 at the beginning of 2020, I'd be totally okay with that.

Then I can become the first multi-time Guru champion. Spoilers, Breath of the Wild is going to win, and Smash Ultimate will be the close #2
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LeonhartFour
12/14/18 5:29:27 PM
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red sox 777
12/14/18 5:30:07 PM
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Instead of having GOTD 2, can we just have another full games contest? There are so many interesting matchups there.
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red sox 777
12/14/18 5:32:37 PM
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Batman and Darth Vader are going to have the same issue Crono and Megaman have, that of being much weaker in the rest of the world than in the Americas.
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Nanis23
12/14/18 5:43:05 PM
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>Darth Vader being considered strong
He would be the Sephiroth of GameFAQs Character Battles if we had him from the beginning
Cool to like in the past, too edgy to like now
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Seanchan
12/14/18 5:47:23 PM
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Who are the "Noble 9" of fictional characters?

Batman
Joker
Superman
Spider-man
Iron Man
Goku
Vegeta
Darth Vader
Yoda

...no, that doesn't look right. Gotta be some easy ones I'm missing.
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NowItsAngeTime
12/14/18 5:49:07 PM
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I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally
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LusterSoldier
12/14/18 6:03:19 PM
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From what I can tell, it doesn't seem like we'll have any bonus matches. Only 3 poll IDs have been inserted into the database (7445, 7446, 7447), which would likely be the regular polls for Saturday/Sunday/Monday.

If there were going to be bonus matches, more than 3 poll IDs would have to be added to the database.
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Lopen
12/14/18 6:03:36 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77302687

Would be interested in input from the enthusiasts in here on this idea of how to "deal with" Link
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_Dog_
12/14/18 6:18:25 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
From what I can tell, it doesn't seem like we'll have any bonus matches. Only 3 poll IDs have been inserted into the database (7445, 7446, 7447), which would likely be the regular polls for Saturday/Sunday/Monday.

If there were going to be bonus matches, more than 3 poll IDs would have to be added to the database.

Weird, since it says "Next Character Battle" in less than an hour
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LusterSoldier
12/14/18 6:27:53 PM
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_Dog_ posted...
Weird, since it says "Next Character Battle" in less than an hour


That message doesn't mean much. We had that message there on the final day of matches before the Thanksgiving break, even though we didn't get any bonus matches during the break.
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snake_5036
12/14/18 6:29:01 PM
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Just sitting here thinking about how we're proud of cloud for merely breaking 40% on Link. What a guy, that Link is.
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Nanis23
12/14/18 6:46:27 PM
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Guys this is happening
The last Character Battle ever is going to end in 13 minutes...
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Luigiman59
12/14/18 6:49:36 PM
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Good riddance.
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Seanchan
12/14/18 6:56:54 PM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.
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LusterSoldier
12/14/18 7:00:47 PM
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No bonus match today.
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snake_5036
12/14/18 7:04:44 PM
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Since I don't really have anywhere else to dump this, I've followed traceexcalibur on tumblr since the 2015 contest, and seeing them working on the Hiveswap Friendsims these days makes me wonder if they were really just a passing fan who wanted Undertale to win or if they were pushing the game on toby's behalf (since toby and Andrew Hussie (homestuck and hiveswap creator) are pals).

IQ47VvDzlzx9S

/conspiracy
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NowItsAngeTime
12/14/18 7:05:27 PM
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Seanchan posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.


I think Mickey Mouse would be like Crash/Spyro level
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_SecretSquirrel
12/14/18 7:05:28 PM
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Seanchan posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.

James Bond might be worth something if all his match pics and art are Goldeneye.
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creativename
12/14/18 7:09:34 PM
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red sox 777 posted...
Batman and Darth Vader are going to have the same issue Crono and Megaman have, that of being much weaker in the rest of the world than in the Americas.

Good point actually. Wouldnt be as extreme though. And theyd be absolute powerhouses in the US.

Nanis23 posted...
>Darth Vader being considered strong
He would be the Sephiroth of GameFAQs Character Battles if we had him from the beginning
Cool to like in the past, too edgy to like now

Yeah, no.

The main reason Rogue One was a hit is Vaders presence and the thing people remember most about it is 90 seconds of Vader kicking ass. Maybe less than 90 seconds.

I love Sephiroth, but hes all style.

Vader has one of the most epic character arcs in cinema history.

If anything would hurt him it would be Ani. Not being edgy. His character is dark and depressing, not edgy, and his story is now pretty much *the* archetype of a fallen hero.

Its never not going to be cool to like Vader, thats just not going to happen.
_Dog_
12/14/18 7:11:32 PM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
Seanchan posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.


I think Mickey Mouse would be like Crash/Spyro level

(5)Madoka Kaname vs. (12)Minnie Mouse

The main character from an anime with an enormously passionate fanbase against the ultimate apathy vote character. Who would win this?
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Logience
12/14/18 7:11:45 PM
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Dude, all of Vaders scenes in Rogue One were just awful fanservice.
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creativename
12/14/18 7:12:36 PM
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Seanchan posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.

I wouldnt trust any of these characters to be strong, other than maybe Homer.
creativename
12/14/18 7:14:02 PM
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Seanchan posted...
Who are the "Noble 9" of fictional characters?

Batman
Joker
Superman
Spider-man
Iron Man
Goku
Vegeta
Darth Vader
Yoda

...no, that doesn't look right. Gotta be some easy ones I'm missing.

Wolverine probably.
creativename
12/14/18 7:15:36 PM
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Logience posted...
Dude, all of Vaders scenes in Rogue One were just awful fanservice.

If by awful you mean successful, sure. They were definitely fanservice.
LusterSoldier
12/14/18 7:25:10 PM
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@creativename

Your updater picked up poll 7388 after the end of the final match. You'll have to stop the updater from tracking polls, and also delete the updates for poll 7388 from the database.
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red sox 777
12/14/18 7:26:49 PM
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creativename posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Batman and Darth Vader are going to have the same issue Crono and Megaman have, that of being much weaker in the rest of the world than in the Americas.

Good point actually. Wouldnt be as extreme though. And theyd be absolute powerhouses in the US.

Nanis23 posted...
>Darth Vader being considered strong
He would be the Sephiroth of GameFAQs Character Battles if we had him from the beginning
Cool to like in the past, too edgy to like now

Yeah, no.

The main reason Rogue One was a hit is Vaders presence and the thing people remember most about it is 90 seconds of Vader kicking ass. Maybe less than 90 seconds.

I love Sephiroth, but hes all style.

Vader has one of the most epic character arcs in cinema history.

If anything would hurt him it would be Ani. Not being edgy. His character is dark and depressing, not edgy, and his story is now pretty much *the* archetype of a fallen hero.

Its never not going to be cool to like Vader, thats just not going to happen.


I can already envision the pic sabotage Vader will get. Technically he is Darth Vader before he gets put into the suit, after all.
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Lopen
12/14/18 7:29:39 PM
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Vader is about as much style as Sephiroth is in terms of appeal. Vader has a story under there. So does Seph. No one cares about either one much compared to their style
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creativename
12/14/18 7:39:17 PM
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Lopen posted...
Vader is about as much style as Sephiroth is in terms of appeal. Vader has a story under there. So does Seph. No one cares about either one much compared to their style

Vaders story is much more important to his popularity than Sephiroths.

Thats true of video game characters as a whole. Appealing design and being part of a game with great gameplay can take you very far. Link for example.

Characters in other mediums will always rely more on other things. Simply because other things are more important to those mediums, since they arent interactive.
red sox 777
12/14/18 7:42:01 PM
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Vader has been around since 1977 though. He's had 20 years longer than Sephiroth for his style appeal to burn away.
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redrocket
12/14/18 7:46:02 PM
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red sox 777 posted...
Vader has been around since 1977 though. He's had 20 years longer than Sephiroth for his style appeal to burn away.


And yet it still hasn't happened.
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Safer_777
12/14/18 7:50:32 PM
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No bonus polls? Come on...
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Not_Wylvane
12/14/18 7:59:30 PM
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Link vs. Santa II
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AxemRedRanger
12/14/18 8:02:38 PM
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The difference between Vader and Sephiroth is that while Vader is really old now and has been parodied relentlessly, he's never been treated as cool to hate. Prequel Anakin and some of his actors, sure, but Vader himself? No way; it's partly because Vader is so near-universally liked that some of the prequel stuff annoyed people.

Whereas the campaign against Sephiroth has been pretty vicious in comparison and it's ridiculously easy to find people who don't think the character is any good at all.

The reasons for the differing reaction can be debated but I don't think it can be seriously debated that the long-term reaction to the two has been different.

And I mean this isn't necessarily representative of general gamefaqs opinion but I think it tells the story well enough:
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Do_You_Like_This_Character%3F
Darth Vader (Star Wars): 93.65% [63 votes]
Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII): 55.32% [47 votes]

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Mr Lasastryke
12/14/18 8:07:30 PM
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i agree with red sox that another games contest would be cool.

back in the day i would slightly prefer a character battle because it would be accompanied by the fanfiction project, which obviously isn't a thing when there's a games contest. but nowadays the fanfiction project is long gone, as well as everyone who participated in it (except sir chris), so that isn't a factor anymore.
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NeoElfboy
12/14/18 8:14:17 PM
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Seanchan posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I would put Han Solo before Yoda personally


Yeah, that sounds like it could be true.

What other major properties could have contenders?

Cartman
Homer Simpson
Bart Simpson
The Terminator
Alien
Predator

Neo?
Simba?
Genie?

...now I feel like I'm really reaching.


If there's a universe where "Alien" would be a stronger character than Ellen Ripley, I'm not sure I want to be part of it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
12/14/18 8:33:24 PM
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So besides Smash and BotW, what other powerhouses are we looking at for GotD2?
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Safer_777
12/14/18 8:34:16 PM
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Mario Odyssey I guess. Witcher 3 and Skyrim too.
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garetha200
12/14/18 8:39:42 PM
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Odyssey and P5 both got doubled in 2017 by Breath of the Wild, which is probably better than a lot of the field will do.

Smash 4 will also probably be decently strong because it is a Smash game

Fallout 4 also might be decent given it hung decently close to Witcher 3 in GotY, although F76 probably didn't help its chances.
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Lopen
12/14/18 8:44:36 PM
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On Vader I think saying "he's fleshed out" is a cute thing to say to be "justified" in liking him but at the end of the day 95% of people like Vader because he's badass as hell and he's popular in spite of his character depth not because of it.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree though
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snake_5036
12/14/18 8:56:19 PM
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garetha200 posted...
Smash 4 will also probably be decently strong because it is a Smash game

After Ultimate, I would think Smash 4 completely collapses into mega-turbo fodder. Ultimate just makes 4 irrelevant unless you really love Master Core.
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ZeldaTPLink
12/14/18 8:58:02 PM
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Vader's story probably did more bad to him than good!
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LusterSoldier
12/14/18 9:31:38 PM
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FINAL MATCH

Link vs. Cloud Strife
Registered Vote Result:
Link - 5411 (60.10%)
Cloud Strife - 3593 (39.90%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Link - 5732 (57.78%)
Cloud Strife - 4189 (42.22%)

Cloud improved his performance against Link by slightly over 1% and this improvement came from both registered and anonymous users. With registered users, Link went from 61.27% in the first match to 60.10% in the second match. For anonymous users, Link went from 59.11% to 57.78%. Cloud did get a slightly better improvement with anonymous users.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
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Nameless2000
12/14/18 9:33:55 PM
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My money's on Dark Souls being the strongest game outside of the big Nintendo franchises for GotD2.
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Haste_2
12/14/18 10:27:46 PM
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It would be nice to see registered user x-stats as well as anonymous voter x-stats.
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MetalmindStats
12/14/18 10:29:20 PM
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snake_5036 posted...
garetha200 posted...
Smash 4 will also probably be decently strong because it is a Smash game

After Ultimate, I would think Smash 4 completely collapses into mega-turbo fodder. Ultimate just makes 4 irrelevant unless you really love Master Core.

I feel like the franchise name alone would ensure that Smash 4 isn't fodder, but probably not much beyond that.
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