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spudger
01/07/19 12:12:07 AM
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That close up to Daniels face xD
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spudger
01/07/19 12:14:35 AM
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Tealc aint fucking around
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spudger
01/07/19 12:27:01 AM
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General going under cover to help the team
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spudger
01/07/19 12:38:12 AM
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Great ep

Hathor dies
The general and Tealc play fighter pilot
General yells yeehaw

Good start to s3
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spudger
01/07/19 12:41:40 AM
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Hunting a system lord on earth
Ep2
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spudger
01/07/19 12:46:17 AM
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Omg Tealc just made a joke and laughed
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slmcknett
01/07/19 2:00:05 AM
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spudger posted...
Omg Tealc just made a joke and laughed

Top 10 moment in the show
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ROBANN_88
01/07/19 7:04:45 AM
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spudger posted...
Omg Tealc just made a joke and laughed


See the image link in my sig
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spudger
01/07/19 8:43:40 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
spudger posted...
Omg Tealc just made a joke and laughed


See the image link in my sig

Nice
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Aressar
01/07/19 9:18:41 AM
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I think that was literally the only time in the entire franchise where he laughed out loud. Even Tuvok from Star Trek Voyager laughed more than that.
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CloneTheHero
01/07/19 11:09:57 AM
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spudger posted...
Great ep

Hathor dies
The general and Tealc play fighter pilot
General yells yeehaw

Good start to s3

just saw that episode last night. laughed my ass off. i think its the only time hes been off world too.
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spudger
01/09/19 1:36:29 AM
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Seth was pretty interesting. Goa'uld hiding out on earth creating cults.

the character of Seth wasn't all that compelling but the overall story was well done.
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spudger
01/09/19 1:57:12 AM
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Fair Game was interesting. Not exciting but seeing Jack play diplomat was funny. So we basically entered a peace accord with a goa'uld system lords with the help of THOR!
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Foppe
01/09/19 4:20:28 AM
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Did you hear who voiced Thor?
Michael Shanks
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spudger
01/09/19 10:54:52 AM
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Foppe posted...
Did you hear who voiced Thor?
Michael Shanks

no shit?

cool.

watched the next ep where he goes insane from the bugs. great performance he gave rapidly losing his mind.
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ROBANN_88
01/09/19 6:52:21 PM
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I fucking love that episode
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CloneTheHero
01/09/19 7:11:20 PM
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spudger posted...
Seth was pretty interesting. Goa'uld hiding out on earth creating cults.

the character of Seth wasn't all that compelling but the overall story was well done.

always felt like that was a filler ep lol. did nothing for me.
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spudger
01/11/19 12:39:06 AM
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ep 5 Learning Curve was ok. Every time Jack is dealing with kids I jsut feel bad for him.

on to ep 6
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spudger
01/11/19 1:01:48 AM
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this quantum mirror is dope af

jumping between realities like a dhd
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spudger
01/11/19 1:04:35 AM
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holy shit Teal'c just killed himself

"ours is the only reality of consequence"

dudes a beast
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spudger
01/11/19 1:18:18 AM
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so im guessing the assguards came in alt reality and saved the whole planet
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Foppe
01/11/19 8:53:43 AM
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It was a while since I saw that episode, but I dont think the humans in that alternative even knew about the Asgardians.
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spudger
01/11/19 11:20:30 AM
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Foppe posted...
It was a while since I saw that episode, but I dont think the humans in that alternative even knew about the Asgardians.

they didnt. but the theory was they existed in that timeline as well and just needed to be contacted, so the 2 Carters contacted them to save the day.

I think
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Foppe
01/11/19 11:26:45 AM
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Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.
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spudger
01/11/19 11:28:47 AM
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Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 1:24:27 PM
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spudger posted...
Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season

i didnt understand why he'd do that. could come in handy someday. i guess from a storyline perspective they wanted to give the mirror a rest
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ROBANN_88
01/11/19 2:31:55 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
spudger posted...
Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season

i didnt understand why he'd do that. could come in handy someday. i guess from a storyline perspective they wanted to give the mirror a rest


i assume it's cause it's a portal that can't be controlled as easily as the Stargate and its Iris. anything could come through it. it's a massive security risk. easier to just destroy it.
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 2:33:17 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
spudger posted...
Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season

i didnt understand why he'd do that. could come in handy someday. i guess from a storyline perspective they wanted to give the mirror a rest


i assume it's cause it's a portal that can't be controlled as easily as the Stargate and its Iris. anything could come through it. it's a massive security risk. easier to just destroy it.

by that logic why keep the stargate? which is an even bigger security risk as its used way more often
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spudger
01/11/19 2:33:39 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
spudger posted...
Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season

i didnt understand why he'd do that. could come in handy someday. i guess from a storyline perspective they wanted to give the mirror a rest


i assume it's cause it's a portal that can't be controlled as easily as the Stargate and its Iris. anything could come through it. it's a massive security risk. easier to just destroy it.

by that logic why keep the stargate?

cuz the iris cock blocks
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 2:34:33 PM
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spudger posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
CloneTheHero posted...
spudger posted...
Foppe posted...
Ah, my mistake, I was thinking about the first time the quantum mirror was used.
I had totally forgot that it was used again in that episode.

general hammond ordered it destroyed after this but we dont see it so i'm wondering if we get another ep next season

i didnt understand why he'd do that. could come in handy someday. i guess from a storyline perspective they wanted to give the mirror a rest


i assume it's cause it's a portal that can't be controlled as easily as the Stargate and its Iris. anything could come through it. it's a massive security risk. easier to just destroy it.

by that logic why keep the stargate?

cuz the iris cock blocks

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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 2:36:10 PM
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true theres an iris but by season 2 you already know the Goa'uld are willing to travel by ship to destroy the 'tauri'. simply having an iris doesnt stop the security risk.
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spudger
01/11/19 2:37:18 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
true theres an iris but by season 2 you already know the Goa'uld are willing to travel by ship to destroy the 'tauri'. simply having an iris doesnt stop the security risk.

true. thats why the peace talks afew eps back.

but at least they cant exploit the gate
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DuranOfForcena
01/11/19 2:38:00 PM
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CloneTheHero posted...
true theres an iris but by season 2 you already know the Goa'uld are willing to travel by ship to destroy the 'tauri'. simply having an iris doesnt stop the security risk.

and? what would getting rid of the gate do about that? it would probably only make things worse, since then they wouldn't be able to evacuate anyone to the alpha site in the case of a planetary attack, or contact any allies.
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ROBANN_88
01/11/19 2:41:33 PM
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yes, Goa'Uld can come by ships. destroying the Gate does nothing but just limit Earths capabilities to defend itself, that was like a major plotpoint in the "Senator Shut It All Down" clipshow thing.

the Quantum Mirror, though, is the only connection between these worlds. destroying it is an effective quarantine method.

though, how do you destroy (or even move) something that transports you to another dimension as soon as you touch it?
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CloneTheHero
01/11/19 2:46:39 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
yes, Goa'Uld can come by ships. destroying the Gate does nothing but just limit Earths capabilities to defend itself


by the same token destroying the mirror does nothing. it sure came in handy for the alternate SGC whos world was taken over by the goauld did it not? MUCH LIKE THE STARGATE the rewards far outweigh the risks
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ROBANN_88
01/11/19 3:03:58 PM
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but it's the one and only connection to other worlds. if they destroy the only connection there's no chance for anything else to get through, meaning there's no threath to defend against.
it's not like Alternate world demons or whatever can just hop in a ship and cross into this world all willy nilly like with the Stargate analogy.

it was deemed to risky to have it, especially with the whole thing where the 2 Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.
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Foppe
01/11/19 3:47:53 PM
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I was thinking, why cant they put an iris on the mirror...
...and then it hit me, unlike the stargate it is just like a door, so you could just use a plasma cutter from the other side if you really want to enter...

That said, it should be possible to build different levels of security perimeters around it and use it to visit other realities in order to secure new technology.
On the downside, you got a limited time for your mission and an attack from the other side could be quick and hard to protect from, like throwing a nuke at it.
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BeyondWalls
01/11/19 3:54:22 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.

Did they ever say why that was? Because clearly, by the end of the franchise, they had chucked that rule out of the window.
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ROBANN_88
01/11/19 3:55:20 PM
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btw, has anyone here read the Stargate novels?

i've been on and off looking stuff up on the Stargate wiki to refresh my memory as stuff comes up, and now and then, the novels are mentioned as plotpoints.
(the mirror apparently has some role in one book)
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Foppe
01/11/19 5:33:57 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.

Did they ever say why that was?

Entropic cascade failure is a side effect that can occur when traveling to an alternate reality. It is caused by the increased entropy created by multiple versions of the same person in one reality. The effects, which only affect the non-native versions, continue to get worse over time, eventually resulting in death. The only way to prevent this is for them to go back to their own reality. Entropic cascade failure does not occur if a person's counterpart in another reality is deceased.

Word from God (writer Joseph Mallozzi) says that multiverses that are close to each others got small differences while multiverses that are far away got huge differences. The temporal effects of entropic cascade failure are directly proportional to the proximity of the "universe of origin" from which a given element is introduced, ranging from dangerously high impact in distant, off-setting cases where the elements are more likely to be "out of sync" to negligible in closer, more attuned elements."

Spoilers Spoiler because those future multiverse encounters happened with the stargate itself and the ECF could be a result of using the mirror itself.
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spudger
01/11/19 5:36:42 PM
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Foppe going deep on the science. thanks!
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BeyondWalls
01/11/19 9:00:15 PM
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Foppe posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.

Did they ever say why that was?

Entropic cascade failure is a side effect that can occur when traveling to an alternate reality. It is caused by the increased entropy created by multiple versions of the same person in one reality. The effects, which only affect the non-native versions, continue to get worse over time, eventually resulting in death. The only way to prevent this is for them to go back to their own reality. Entropic cascade failure does not occur if a person's counterpart in another reality is deceased.

Word from God (writer Joseph Mallozzi) says that multiverses that are close to each others got small differences while multiverses that are far away got huge differences. The temporal effects of entropic cascade failure are directly proportional to the proximity of the "universe of origin" from which a given element is introduced, ranging from dangerously high impact in distant, off-setting cases where the elements are more likely to be "out of sync" to negligible in closer, more attuned elements."

Sounds nice... but its all bullshit. Especially during that one SG1 episode in the final season and then Atlantis just blows that rule out of the water.
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ROBANN_88
01/11/19 10:30:19 PM
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spoilers tags when mentioning later seasons, dude
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Foppe
01/12/19 3:06:08 AM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Foppe posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.

Did they ever say why that was?

Entropic cascade failure is a side effect that can occur when traveling to an alternate reality. It is caused by the increased entropy created by multiple versions of the same person in one reality. The effects, which only affect the non-native versions, continue to get worse over time, eventually resulting in death. The only way to prevent this is for them to go back to their own reality. Entropic cascade failure does not occur if a person's counterpart in another reality is deceased.

Word from God (writer Joseph Mallozzi) says that multiverses that are close to each others got small differences while multiverses that are far away got huge differences. The temporal effects of entropic cascade failure are directly proportional to the proximity of the "universe of origin" from which a given element is introduced, ranging from dangerously high impact in distant, off-setting cases where the elements are more likely to be "out of sync" to negligible in closer, more attuned elements."

Sounds nice... but its all bullshit. Especially during that one SG1 episode in the final season and then Atlantis just blows that rule out of the water.

Spoilers because of later stuff...
The way I see it... the mirror had a flaw that allowed ECF to happen.
That episode you mention used a Stargate which could have bypassed that flaw. Heck, the lack of a real DHD could be the reason why it works, the homemade thing Stargate Command got lacks tons of safety protocols that you will find in a real DHD.
Other episodes... that Atlantis episode had McKay using Asgard beaming technology while wearing an Ancient Personal shield emitter. Which created universe-destroying exotic particles, so we can easily assume that the mirror used a different way that prevented these particles from being created.
Carter tried something similat when she got phased into that other alternative universe in a later episode, but since that universe Carter died... no reason for ECF to happen.
The first time Jackson used the mirror... he wasnt in the alternative universe long enough to make it happen.
Did we have any more alternative universe episodes? We had some timetravels and changed timelines, but those were still the same universe so there would be no ECF.

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BeyondWalls
01/12/19 9:25:59 AM
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Foppe posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
Foppe posted...
BeyondWalls posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Carters were basically slowly dying just by being in the same dimensions cause of it.

Did they ever say why that was?

Entropic cascade failure is a side effect that can occur when traveling to an alternate reality. It is caused by the increased entropy created by multiple versions of the same person in one reality. The effects, which only affect the non-native versions, continue to get worse over time, eventually resulting in death. The only way to prevent this is for them to go back to their own reality. Entropic cascade failure does not occur if a person's counterpart in another reality is deceased.

Word from God (writer Joseph Mallozzi) says that multiverses that are close to each others got small differences while multiverses that are far away got huge differences. The temporal effects of entropic cascade failure are directly proportional to the proximity of the "universe of origin" from which a given element is introduced, ranging from dangerously high impact in distant, off-setting cases where the elements are more likely to be "out of sync" to negligible in closer, more attuned elements."

Sounds nice... but its all bullshit. Especially during that one SG1 episode in the final season and then Atlantis just blows that rule out of the water.

Spoilers because of later stuff...
The way I see it... the mirror had a flaw that allowed ECF to happen.
That episode you mention used a Stargate which could have bypassed that flaw. Heck, the lack of a real DHD could be the reason why it works, the homemade thing Stargate Command got lacks tons of safety protocols that you will find in a real DHD.
Other episodes... that Atlantis episode had McKay using Asgard beaming technology while wearing an Ancient Personal shield emitter. Which created universe-destroying exotic particles, so we can easily assume that the mirror used a different way that prevented these particles from being created.
Carter tried something similat when she got phased into that other alternative universe in a later episode, but since that universe Carter died... no reason for ECF to happen.
The first time Jackson used the mirror... he wasnt in the alternative universe long enough to make it happen.
Did we have any more alternative universe episodes? We had some timetravels and changed timelines, but those were still the same universe so there would be no ECF.

There was also the Atlantis episode where the ship was jumping through realities. Im not sure how long they spent per universe though. Its also interesting to note that Daniel was apparently dead in the universe he traveled to while using the mirror.
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Foppe
01/12/19 11:02:34 AM
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And we got Stargate Universe.
So every time it happens is when the mirror is involved, which can mean one of three things.
1; Whoever built them fucked up.
2; It was intended this way as a failsafe. You can communicate and share notes with different universes, but if you try to use it for conquest, you will die.
3; Plothole.

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CloneTheHero
01/12/19 12:33:30 PM
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Foppe
01/12/19 12:45:02 PM
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01/12/19 1:05:25 PM
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spudger
01/12/19 11:21:32 PM
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time for some witchcraft
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