Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1322

(+) Yeah! (+)

Wow, Link's lead is like 6.5% less than it was at this point in the last Link/Cloud match. I'm sure that will largely evaporate, but still
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I imagine Cloud only really doing better than last time at first. For most of the day it's probably not gonna be any real difference.
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red sox 777 posted...

Link is not pleased with this Cloud for 45% discussion and just blasted his way to a 63.88% update.

Another 1%+ gain for Link with an even bigger 67.28% update.
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LusterSoldier posted...

Another 1%+ gain for Link with an even bigger 67.28% update.

Limits are meant to be broken.
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So about Cloud keeping this respectable...
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

LusterSoldier posted...

Another 1%+ gain for Link with an even bigger 67.28% update.

Limits are meant to be broken.

Link just keeps getting the Smash Ball.
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Link stood in a secret alpine meadow, looking out to the snowcaps, when footsteps sounded behind him.

Link: So you have come. Well, I am truly disappointed in how weak the multiverse has become, that one like you can become champion, Zelda.

Cloud: It's a me, Mario!

Link: Oh, of course. Mario then. You are too weak to face me, so I have a gift for you. The complete Triforce. With this, maybe you can challenge me.

Cloud: ......

At this point, Link finally turns around.

Link: Oh, it's you.

Cloud: Do we have to do this again? I surrender, okay? Let's go play golf.

Link: Deal.
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I love that Cloud made it this far. Long live the GOAT FFVII!
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Well, that was fun for 20 minutes. Congratulations, Link. Maybe Cloud can get this to over 45% by the end. That would certainly cement him as an undisputed #2.
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Are the bonus matches confirmed or not?
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Link's trends are so insane he actually makes Cloud look like Phoenix Wright wtf
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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Are the bonus matches confirmed or not?

We don't know yet. There is a trick I can use involving the contest voting page to find out which poll IDs have been inserted into the database and all I can find is a poll ID for 7444 (tomorrow's regular poll). As tomorrow will be a Friday, Allen is expected to input at least 3 regular polls into the database for Saturday/Sunday/Monday. If I can't find more than 3 poll IDs inserted into the database before the end of today's match, then there won't be any bonus matches.
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Ultimate Loser seems a little tricky with double elimination, but I think I got it

Link > Cloud > Zelda > Mario > Samus > Tifa > Luigi > Tails > Master Chief > Goro Majima
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It was nice of Link to take a few minutes to pretend this match may be respectable before promptly kicking Cloud's shit in.
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Not_Wylvane posted...

It was nice of Link to take a few minutes to pretend this match may be respectable before promptly kicking Cloud's shit in.

What a guy!
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Not_Wylvane posted...

It was nice of Link to take a few minutes to pretend this match may be respectable before promptly kicking Cloud's shit in.

That's what Cloud gets for messing with Link's girl
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Quick, someone replace Ken here with Cloud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuBNp27jVw" data-time="&start=39
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

Ultimate Loser seems a little tricky with double elimination, but I think I got it

Link > Cloud > Zelda > Mario > Samus > Tifa > Luigi > Tails > Master Chief > Goro Majima

Looks right, even if you ignore the loser's bracket it is still Goro (Cloud is removed from the list).
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Though I guess it could also go Tifa > Sephiroth > Ryu > KOS-MOS > Aqua > Quiet
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_SecretSquirrel posted...

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

where is this pic from?
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Why do people even bother when half the time the Zelda franchise wins and the other half the Final Fantasy franchise wins?

Really should exclude those two to make the contests varied. But I guess those rabid fanboys would revolt if that happened. The reason why I can't take this site's contests seriously.
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MZero11 posted...

_SecretSquirrel posted...

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

where is this pic from?

Triforce Heroes.

RainingMetal posted...

Why do people even bother when half the time the Zelda franchise wins and the other half the Final Fantasy franchise wins?

Really should exclude those two to make the contests varied. But I guess those rabid fanboys would revolt if that happened. The reason why I can't take this site's contests seriously.

Worked.
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RainingMetal posted...

Why do people even bother when half the time the Zelda franchise wins and the other half the Final Fantasy franchise wins?

Really should exclude those two to make the contests varied. But I guess those rabid fanboys would revolt if that happened. The reason why I can't take this site's contests seriously.

Final Fantasy has only won like 3 times, and hasn't won anything since 2005.
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MZero11 posted...

RainingMetal posted...

Why do people even bother when half the time the Zelda franchise wins and the other half the Final Fantasy franchise wins?

Really should exclude those two to make the contests varied. But I guess those rabid fanboys would revolt if that happened. The reason why I can't take this site's contests seriously.

Final Fantasy has only won like 3 times, and hasn't won anything since 2005.

They still always come close. That has to count for something. Think of the franchises that don't nearly have that kind of distinction.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...

Finally found the match pics.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

Thats Link? What is this? Is this mislabeled?

Wasnt this being used for Zelda too?

Cloud always wins it's why I voted Link
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OFool posted...

Cloud would have clutch beat Samus in this contest, lets be honest.

Samus might come out better against many characters, but she wouldnt have taken down Cloud when push came to shove.

Why would Cloud clutch Samus?

I dont think that match would be close enough for him to clutch.

You could say maybe something was off about her match with Snake (Smash SFF or whatever), but I think its clear shes at least a couple points stronger than Mario indirectly. Cloud barely beat Mario.

I dont think hed beat Samus. Not this contest anyway. Next contest it could change, though Id expect the advantage to move in her favor if anything.

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?
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Yeah I think things were set up perfectly for Cloud, avoiding Samus and facing Zelda after she was beaten by Link and Mario after the Mario/Samus match. Not sure if either of Cloud's wins would have flipped if we had the matches in a different order, but I seriously doubt Cloud could have taken Samus at any point in the contest.

That said, Samus loses to 2 characters (Link and Mario), and maybe Zelda. Call it 2.5 characters. Cloud loses to 2 characters (Link and Samus). And Cloud actually won the loser's bracket as well, so I'm fine with calling Cloud our #2.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?

Her strength without Mario's SFF voodoo is more like 53% on Mario.
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red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?

Her strength without Mario's SFF voodoo is more like 53% on Mario.

Samus has never been SFF'd in a contest before, why all the sudden in 2018 is she suffering 'SFF voodoo'? Is there any match that points to Samus being stronger than Mario?
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?

Her strength without Mario's SFF voodoo is more like 53% on Mario.

Samus has never been SFF'd in a contest before, why all the sudden in 2018 is she suffering 'SFF voodoo'? Is there any match that points to Samus being stronger than Mario?

Did you see Mario/Samus 2005? The one where Mario got 60%?
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xp1337 posted...

I'm on Team Samus for #2.

Maybe this current iteration of Cloud could beat her with his momentum, but neutral field I'll take Samus without much hesitation. tbqh, I'd take Mario too, I think there was a real factor coming from that Samus match.

True. Its quite possible Mario wouldve edged Cloud out if he hadnt faced Samus first.

Though the match was close enough that random variation and pics could flip the result.

red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?

Her strength without Mario's SFF voodoo is more like 53% on Mario.

Samus has never been SFF'd in a contest before, why all the sudden in 2018 is she suffering 'SFF voodoo'? Is there any match that points to Samus being stronger than Mario?

Did you see Mario/Samus 2005? The one where Mario got 60%?

You didn't answer the question, what match leads you to this conclusion? The only thing fishy about anything behind Samus is the Snake/Sonic match
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The_Ctes posted...

I imagine Cloud only really doing better than last time at first. For most of the day it's probably not gonna be any real difference.

Yeah.

To go with a theme others have mentioned, the early voters are smarks who vote based on the kayfabe contest narrative.

L-Block was an example of the half the site buying into the kayfabe and creating a babyface superstar, though he didnt last long. A rapid rise and rapid fall, like the Ultimate Warrior. U-L-timate Warblocker?

Hmmm. This is fun!

Link would be Hulk Hogan of course, no selling eveybody and refusing to job. And going from babyface to heel but remaining the top guy. With a swerve face turn against Draven, like Hogan being face in the eyes of the fans at Wrestlemania 18. But still losing.

Cloud should get over 40 by the end. Good job
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I gotta admit, Cloud had a pretty good contest overall.
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

red sox 777 posted...

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

How can you say Cloud wouldn't beat Samus when her natural strength is 48% on Mario, and Cloud beat Mario?

Her strength without Mario's SFF voodoo is more like 53% on Mario.

Samus has never been SFF'd in a contest before, why all the sudden in 2018 is she suffering 'SFF voodoo'? Is there any match that points to Samus being stronger than Mario?

Did you see Mario/Samus 2005? The one where Mario got 60%?

You didn't answer the question, what match leads you to this conclusion? The only thing fishy about anything behind Samus is the Snake/Sonic match

The Tifa and Sephiroth matches.
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If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense.
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_Dog_ posted...

I gotta admit, Cloud had a pretty good contest overall.

Definitely.

Though lets be real. Take away his smash appearance. He narrowly loses those toss up matches. That definitely helped him a bit.

FFVII remake needs to happen soon.
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Hypothetical mini-contest: Characters that have never appeared in a CB before.

Do we have enough untapped midcarders to make this actually interesting? Field could be wide open, although it seems like Pokemon could run wild and this could just turn into a big proxy war for the other franchises.
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creativename posted...

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Finally found the match pics.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

Thats Link? What is this? Is this mislabeled?

Wasnt this being used for Zelda too?

No, that's Link wearing Zelda's dress, opposite Cloud in a dress.
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squexa posted...

Hypothetical mini-contest: Characters that have never appeared in a CB before.

Do we have enough untapped midcarders to make this actually interesting? Field could be wide open, although it seems like Pokemon could run wild and this could just turn into a big proxy war for the other franchises.

Linkle, Dark Samus and various Gen 1 Pokemon will have a field day.
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Can we not have one wih non exclusive game characters? Its been nearly 20 years surely we can do one with non exclusive game characters? It would be way more fun.
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_SecretSquirrel posted...

creativename posted...

_SecretSquirrel posted...

Finally found the match pics.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/x/user/link-f-boss-f.png (WHAT)

Thats Link? What is this? Is this mislabeled?

Wasnt this being used for Zelda too?

No, that's Link wearing Zelda's dress, opposite Cloud in a dress.

Why does he have green hair? Why is he in a dress? What game is this?

Im so confused.

squexa posted...

Hypothetical mini-contest: Characters that have never appeared in a CB before.

Do we have enough untapped midcarders to make this actually interesting? Field could be wide open, although it seems like Pokemon could run wild and this could just turn into a big proxy war for the other franchises.

Based on this contest, Lulu would have a lot of... potential to draw upon.

garetha200 posted...

If Tifa is legitimately stronger than Sephiroth, then Samus had a stronger round 1 of the Legends Bracket than Mario did. And since that's the only round where you can compare them and they seemed pretty even directly, saying Samus is stronger indirectly makes a lot of sense.

Only problem with that is I don't buy for a second that Tifa beat Seph. I trust Tifa/Samus as most of the weirdness this contest has been hentai rallies and the general SJWFF we saw in a few matches. If you trust Tifa/Samus and Tifa/Seph, that puts Ryu at a really really weak level which makes zero sense. The only explanation that makes sense across the board is the following:

- Sephiroth is around Mega Man/Crono level
- Zelda is also naturally around that level and benefitted greatly from her bandwagon and hentai rallies
- Samus/Mario 1 is an accurate representation of Samus
- Snake is the only real outlier here as Snake/Samus and Snake/Sonic can't both be accurate and still make sense in the grand scheme of things
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

squexa posted...

Hypothetical mini-contest: Characters that have never appeared in a CB before.

Do we have enough untapped midcarders to make this actually interesting? Field could be wide open, although it seems like Pokemon could run wild and this could just turn into a big proxy war for the other franchises.

Linkle, Dark Samus and various Gen 1 Pokemon will have a field day.

Yeah, Dark Link especially and maybe Paper Mario and MegaMan.Exe too, so alternate forms would probably be banned and the Gen 1 Pokemon would be restricted to a couple of slots.

The plus side is that Charizard and Mewtwo didn't look that great this contest so a Blastoise vs Chocobo/Red XIII/etc match could potentially be in doubt I suppose.
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_Dog_ posted...

I gotta admit, Cloud had a pretty good contest overall.

I think he was a bigger star than Zelda... he beat her!
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