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Houston
12/12/18 12:08:40 AM
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Trial by gun. You come in threatening people with a firearm, you die.

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Dash_Harber
12/12/18 12:19:16 AM
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I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.
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WalkingLobsters
12/12/18 12:20:08 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.

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ToPoPO
12/12/18 12:23:54 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


Better to cripple them in addition to their crippling poverty?
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tigerslashII
12/12/18 12:25:19 AM
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I don't understand people who enjoy this kind of thing. No one should want to have to have to use a gun.
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Skye Reynolds
12/12/18 12:25:33 AM
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C_Pain
12/12/18 12:26:15 AM
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imagine needing to be so tough you have to comment yeah good robbers are dead
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:27:05 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
The depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.

tigerslashII posted...
I don't understand people who enjoy this kind of thing. No one should want to have to have to use a gun.

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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:29:58 AM
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Ill also offer that slavery is the foundation of this country. Some people dont really understand all that slavery entails and how it exists to this day in many forms all around you whether you recognize it or not.

If you have the privilege to find joy in this kind of tragedy along with the despair that this man felt which led him to such an act, I dont consider you human yet.
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tigerslashII
12/12/18 12:34:49 AM
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I've had a gun drawn on me, I've had my house shot in a drive by, and out of necessity I had to buy a gun to carry and learn how to use it. Shooting is fun, and it's nice to know I can protect myself, but I never want to have to use it against another person.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:35:13 AM
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dont agree with the commentators sentiments on the situation but i do like his attention to detail
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Houston
12/12/18 12:35:47 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:36:01 AM
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tigerslashII posted...
I've had a gun drawn on me, I've had my house shot in a drive by, and out of necessity I had to buy a gun to carry and learn how to use it. Shooting is fun, and it's nice to know I can protect myself, but I never want to have to use it against another person.

good on you my friend, this imo should be the perspective of any responsible gun owner.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:37:30 AM
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Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.

I respect the thought process but better safe than sorry when talking about human life and death leads us to kill 100 innocent men just to get that one bad one. Not worth it to me.
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Dash_Harber
12/12/18 12:37:38 AM
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Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.


That's different than what you were saying in the first place. There is a huge difference between accepting something as a sad inevitability and saying that something was how it should be.
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Monolith1676
12/12/18 12:39:02 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Ill also offer that slavery is the foundation of this country. Some people dont really understand all that slavery entails and how it exists to this day in many forms all around you whether you recognize it or not.

If you have the privilege to find joy in this kind of tragedy along with the despair that this man felt which led him to such an act, I dont consider you human yet.


Just because your (his) life sucks doesn't give you the right to victimize others.
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Dash_Harber
12/12/18 12:40:16 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.

I respect the thought process but better safe than sorry when talking about human life and death leads us to kill 100 innocent men just to get that one bad one. Not worth it to me.

None of us said we had a problem with an attempt to save lives, we were pointing out that celebrating the robber's death without knowing the circumstances that lead him to those choices was callous and naive.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:41:18 AM
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Monolith1676 posted...
EzeDoesIt posted...
Ill also offer that slavery is the foundation of this country. Some people dont really understand all that slavery entails and how it exists to this day in many forms all around you whether you recognize it or not.

If you have the privilege to find joy in this kind of tragedy along with the despair that this man felt which led him to such an act, I dont consider you human yet.


Just because your (his) life sucks doesn't give you the right to victimize others.


I agree, but to find joy in his (my) death is ignorant, asinine, immature, and downright immoral.
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tigerslashII
12/12/18 12:42:14 AM
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Finding joy in such things is wrong, however any claims of oppression or victimhood disappear the moment a firearm is brandished on innocent people.
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Gafemage
12/12/18 12:42:19 AM
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Conflict posted...
I mean I'm not going to feel sympathy for the guy but it's weird to fetishize criminals getting shot

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FLAMING EVIL HOMER
12/12/18 12:42:37 AM
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Would've been better if it were one of those "pranks" video people that got shot.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:42:39 AM
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@Dash_Harber posted...
EzeDoesIt posted...
Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.

I respect the thought process but better safe than sorry when talking about human life and death leads us to kill 100 innocent men just to get that one bad one. Not worth it to me.

None of us said we had a problem with an attempt to save lives, we were pointing out that celebrating the robber's death without knowing the circumstances that lead him to those choices was callous and naive.


For sure, to clarify I wasnt commenting on you at all- I totally agree with your comment- what I said was directed at who replied to you.
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Dash_Harber
12/12/18 12:43:43 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
@Dash_Harber posted...
EzeDoesIt posted...
Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.

I respect the thought process but better safe than sorry when talking about human life and death leads us to kill 100 innocent men just to get that one bad one. Not worth it to me.

None of us said we had a problem with an attempt to save lives, we were pointing out that celebrating the robber's death without knowing the circumstances that lead him to those choices was callous and naive.


For sure, to clarify I wasnt commenting on you at all- I totally agree with your comment- what I said was directed at who replied to you.

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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:44:43 AM
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tigerslashII posted...
Finding joy in such things is wrong, however any claims of oppression or victimhood disappear the moment a firearm is brandished on innocent people.

True, cant agree with that enough.
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FLAMING EVIL HOMER
12/12/18 12:45:33 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Would've been better if it were one of those "pranks" video people that got shot.

so it would be better if a stupid person was killed instead of a violent criminal?


Both are good. Both deserve to get shot.
Other one would've made a more interesting story and hopefully end those prank videos i see people watch.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:45:48 AM
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@Dash_Harber
I myself couldve removed your quote from my comment but I was too lazy :)
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:46:54 AM
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FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Hairistotle posted...
FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Would've been better if it were one of those "pranks" video people that got shot.

so it would be better if a stupid person was killed instead of a violent criminal?


Both are good. Both deserve to get shot.
Other one would've made a more interesting story and hopefully end those prank videos i see people watch.

lmao, some of those pranks are good though if they dont take it too far. Like the guy who pretends to be a librarian at the college near him.
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Houston
12/12/18 12:47:22 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.


That's different than what you were saying in the first place. There is a huge difference between accepting something as a sad inevitability and saying that something was how it should be.


Not really. We know nothing about the bank robber in this case. Even if it came out how hard his life was, what led him up to this point to walk in brandishing a weapon, etc. it still doesn't justify his behavior or what should be done to defend the innocent in this particular scenario.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:47:31 AM
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Hairistotle posted...
FLAMING EVIL HOMER posted...
Both are good. Both deserve to get shot.

ooooooooooooooooook

Well at least his UN lets us know hes flaming evil.
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Houston
12/12/18 12:50:30 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Houston posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
I used to feel the same, and there is some catharsis to it, but the depressing reality is that mental illness and crippling poverty are often a factor to situations like this.


It's a sad situation, but I definitely wouldn't want to reason with an armed person with possible mental illness, as you described. Better safe than sorry, particularly in these cases. No innocent life in that building going about their work day should be subjected to even the tiniest of chances that they wind up dead because of someone like the perpetrator.

I respect the thought process but better safe than sorry when talking about human life and death leads us to kill 100 innocent men just to get that one bad one. Not worth it to me.


I'm applying "better safe than sorry" to the person in front of them with a loaded weapon (which was obviously loaded, as the robber fired back).

Not sure how this scenario applies of anyone innocent dying.
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Ivany2008
12/12/18 12:51:09 AM
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I have a better question. How the fuck is this still on Youtube? Surely this would have been flagged immediately, due to the guy actually dying. That has to go against some sort of Youtube policy.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 12:53:23 AM
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@Houston
How many innocent people were shot by the (security) police this year alone?

Not to say this particular guard is guilty of anything, he did well defending his coworkers.

Of course its quite possible that the robber never would have shot anyone had they handed the money over, but I doubt a human life is as important to you as the amount of money that a bank has at their register.
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GiggetySplicer
12/12/18 1:02:31 AM
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Careful. I got modded for this title before
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HylianFox
12/12/18 1:04:07 AM
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I keep reading the title as "Rubber Band"
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Houston
12/12/18 1:05:23 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
@Houston
How many innocent people were shot by the (security) police this year alone?

Not to say this particular guard is guilty of anything, he did well defending his coworkers.

Of course its quite possible that the robber never would have shot anyone had they handed the money over, but I doubt a human life is as important to you as the amount of money that a bank has at their register.


I'm not sure how many innocent people were shot by the "security" police 'this year alone'.

Yes, it is quite possible the robber wouldn't have shot someone had they handed the money over.

You also quoted in agreement with another user regarding the possibility that this gun wielding bank robber had a mental illness. How well do you trust someone with a mental illness rushing into a bank with a loaded fire arm??

Do you really want to live in a society where people are violently threatened with firearms because they know they'll get what they want and it's just routine?
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Bio1590
12/12/18 1:08:01 AM
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Let's see how consistent the mods are in applying the ToS.
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Axiom
12/12/18 1:08:02 AM
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Sorry but I don't get off on death
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Darmik
12/12/18 1:09:02 AM
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This topic and video is fucked up in that unique American way.
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Houston
12/12/18 1:10:09 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Let's see how consistent the mods are in applying the ToS.


Oh, did I break a rule, Bio1590?

Sorry, I didn't realize armed bank robbers were such a sensitive topic for CE. Hindsight 20/20.
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Darmik
12/12/18 1:11:05 AM
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Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Let's see how consistent the mods are in applying the ToS.


Oh, did I break a rule, Bio1590?

Sorry, I didn't realize armed bank robbers were such a sensitive topic for CE. Hindsight 20/20.


I think it's more about posting a video where a guy is clearly killed on screen.
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Houston
12/12/18 1:14:32 AM
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Darmik posted...
Houston posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Let's see how consistent the mods are in applying the ToS.


Oh, did I break a rule, Bio1590?

Sorry, I didn't realize armed bank robbers were such a sensitive topic for CE. Hindsight 20/20.


I think it's more about posting a video where a guy is clearly killed on screen.


Oh please. It's on Youtube. This isn't some sort of hacker slash death gore video.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 1:16:14 AM
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@Houston
The banks robbed the **** out of you and everyone you know in 08. And throughout history. But just 10 years ago they were given a ton of money for nothing at all. So to me youre nothing but their employee, so I wouldnt expect you to treat us as human. To you we are just a commodity, meant to be bought and sold, and killed when we ask for a fair share.

Take the word overseer, like a sample.
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Darmik
12/12/18 1:16:34 AM
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There are several videos on YouTube that will get you moderated here.

I don't think level of gore is the difference when posting videos on death.

But hey maybe you know more then I do. I'm sure this ain't your first account.
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EzeDoesIt
12/12/18 1:17:02 AM
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but I do agree you have no cause to be modded for this topic
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Houston
12/12/18 1:19:48 AM
#49:


Darmik posted...
There are several videos on YouTube that will get you moderated here.

I don't think level of gore is the difference when posting videos on death.

But hey maybe you know more then I do. I'm sure this ain't your first account.


It's a video from someone with 1.2 million subscribers and it's pretty tame.

I'm sure I've been marked by the people feigning outrage over this and pretending they're actually offended, so I guess we'll have to see what happens.
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TheMarthKoopa
12/12/18 1:20:36 AM
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Posting videos of people being killed should be worth a ban
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