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Anagram 12/10/18 1:31:11 PM #1: |
Square released a trailer for their Mobius game where Ultimecia acts like Rinoa for five seconds, so people are trotting out the old "Ultimecia is Rinoa" thing.
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Jakyl25 12/10/18 1:44:23 PM #2: |
It has always made the most sense
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Anagram 12/10/18 2:48:43 PM #3: |
Bump
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Snrkiko 12/10/18 2:49:24 PM #4: |
Kinda cool
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STElNER 12/10/18 2:56:48 PM #5: |
makes sense, with her being rinoa
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ninkendo 12/10/18 2:57:03 PM #6: |
Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense STElNER posted... makes sense, with her being rinoa --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SantaRPidgey 12/10/18 2:58:08 PM #7: |
Im not familiar with this theory
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Safer_777 12/10/18 3:00:22 PM #8: |
I thought they were different persons?
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Wedge Antilles 12/10/18 3:00:51 PM #9: |
SantaRPidgey posted...
Im not familiar with this theory You can Google it fairly easily, but I think it boils down to Ultimecia is Rinoa from the future. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 12/10/18 3:02:08 PM #10: |
like even without theories it was the conclusion I had come to after I finished FF8
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Lord Bob Bree 12/10/18 3:05:56 PM #11: |
Judging by the video, this also means Seifer=Ultimecia?
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ShatteredElysium 12/10/18 3:09:58 PM #12: |
Didn't Ultimecia also share all the same weapon names as Rinoa in Dissidia? And no other villain does that
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SantaRPidgey 12/10/18 3:10:10 PM #13: |
Just read up on this, its pretty awesome but why did no one mention this in my ffviii topic years ago?? I just got the braindead "squall is dead" theory
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pjbasis 12/10/18 3:12:55 PM #14: |
She was also acting like Seifer!
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LeonhartFour 12/10/18 3:16:09 PM #15: |
Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense I mean not really it's based on a misinterpretation of what the game tells you about sorceresses having to pass on their powers before they die and some people thought that meant they were essentially immortal as long as they had their powers I'm sure Square is aware the theory exists so that might have just been a fun nod to it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ninkendo 12/10/18 3:18:48 PM #16: |
like yeah they're emulating the FF8 opening FMV, but also Rinoa doesn't do the pointing up bit in the beginning like Ultimecia does here it's a quick flash at the end instead.
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HashtagSEP 12/10/18 3:19:11 PM #17: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Jakyl25 posted...It has always made the most sense Well, they did a "fun nod" in Dissidia, too, by making their exclusive specials named the same! And it's not really just laziness since no other hero/villain sets did that. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 12/10/18 3:22:02 PM #18: |
There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible.
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paperwarior 12/10/18 3:22:05 PM #19: |
I like the one where Ultimecia is an AI built into the Junction Machine.
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Jakyl25 12/10/18 3:42:19 PM #20: |
SantaRPidgey posted...
Just read up on this, its pretty awesome but why did no one mention this in my ffviii topic years ago?? I just got the braindead "squall is dead" theory Just to be clear, THAT theory is dumb --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lordjers 12/10/18 3:55:47 PM #21: |
l AM THE FUTURE... RINOA!
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Anagram 12/10/18 3:59:59 PM #22: |
pjbasis posted...
There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible. I don't know if it can really be a parallel timeline or whatever, FFVIII seems to be clear that there's only one, since Ultimecia tries to kompress it. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Owner of FF9 12/10/18 4:08:23 PM #23: |
... whatever
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pjbasis 12/10/18 4:11:50 PM #24: |
Anagram posted...
pjbasis posted...There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible. In whatever future project of FFVIII that canonizes this theory, I expect it to make as much sense as the ffvii compilation stuff so --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 12/10/18 6:21:07 PM #25: |
Yes
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lordjers 12/10/18 8:52:43 PM #26: |
Jenova was the main villain.
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Ringworm 12/10/18 9:10:34 PM #27: |
They should remake the game with Ultimecia in the place of Rinoa
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Anagram 12/10/18 9:32:57 PM #29: |
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I've always believed it, because the ending makes no sense otherwise. I don't know if it makes more sense, but honestly, Ultimecia is more interesting as your girlfriend who tragically succumbed to powers beyond what mortals can comprehend, lost her memories, and tried to kill you and her past self. If that's not the case, then she's just evil and has no real backstory. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 12/10/18 9:48:25 PM #30: |
This dumb theory comes from people who think that the parallels between Rinoa and Ultimecia are the keys to a lore puzzle and not a tool to reinforce themes of the story
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LeonhartFour 12/10/18 9:55:02 PM #31: |
Anagram posted...
I don't know if it makes more sense, but honestly, Ultimecia is more interesting as your girlfriend who tragically succumbed to powers beyond what mortals can comprehend, lost her memories, and tried to kill you and her past self. If that's not the case, then she's just evil and has no real backstory. Or she knows Squall will kill her if she doesn't do something to try to stop it and she just doesn't want to die --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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