Board 8 > Important FFVIII news, apparently (mega spoilers?)

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12/10/18 1:31:11 PM
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Square released a trailer for their Mobius game where Ultimecia acts like Rinoa for five seconds, so people are trotting out the old "Ultimecia is Rinoa" thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbOmyh06E3s" data-time="

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Jakyl25
12/10/18 1:44:23 PM
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It has always made the most sense
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12/10/18 2:48:43 PM
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Bump
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Snrkiko
12/10/18 2:49:24 PM
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Kinda cool
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STElNER
12/10/18 2:56:48 PM
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makes sense, with her being rinoa
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ninkendo
12/10/18 2:57:03 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense


STElNER posted...
makes sense, with her being rinoa

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SantaRPidgey
12/10/18 2:58:08 PM
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Im not familiar with this theory
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Safer_777
12/10/18 3:00:22 PM
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I thought they were different persons?
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Wedge Antilles
12/10/18 3:00:51 PM
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SantaRPidgey posted...
Im not familiar with this theory


You can Google it fairly easily, but I think it boils down to Ultimecia is Rinoa from the future.
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ninkendo
12/10/18 3:02:08 PM
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like even without theories it was the conclusion I had come to after I finished FF8
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Lord Bob Bree
12/10/18 3:05:56 PM
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Judging by the video, this also means Seifer=Ultimecia?
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ShatteredElysium
12/10/18 3:09:58 PM
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Didn't Ultimecia also share all the same weapon names as Rinoa in Dissidia? And no other villain does that

Granted the video in this thread could be just to mock Squall but the theory makes sense to me
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SantaRPidgey
12/10/18 3:10:10 PM
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Just read up on this, its pretty awesome but why did no one mention this in my ffviii topic years ago?? I just got the braindead "squall is dead" theory
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pjbasis
12/10/18 3:12:55 PM
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She was also acting like Seifer!

Was that Rinoa in the flower fields with the angel wings or just some mobius character cosplaying?
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LeonhartFour
12/10/18 3:16:09 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense


I mean not really

it's based on a misinterpretation of what the game tells you about sorceresses having to pass on their powers before they die and some people thought that meant they were essentially immortal as long as they had their powers

I'm sure Square is aware the theory exists so that might have just been a fun nod to it
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ninkendo
12/10/18 3:18:48 PM
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like yeah they're emulating the FF8 opening FMV, but also Rinoa doesn't do the pointing up bit in the beginning like Ultimecia does here it's a quick flash at the end instead.
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HashtagSEP
12/10/18 3:19:11 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
It has always made the most sense


I mean not really

it's based on a misinterpretation of what the game tells you about sorceresses having to pass on their powers before they die and some people thought that meant they were essentially immortal

I'm sure Square is aware the theory exists so that might have just been a fun nod to it


Well, they did a "fun nod" in Dissidia, too, by making their exclusive specials named the same! And it's not really just laziness since no other hero/villain sets did that.
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pjbasis
12/10/18 3:22:02 PM
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There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible.

I would still consider it something of a retcon if they really went that route though. Like it's a parallel world rinoa or some shit.
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paperwarior
12/10/18 3:22:05 PM
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I like the one where Ultimecia is an AI built into the Junction Machine.
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Jakyl25
12/10/18 3:42:19 PM
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SantaRPidgey posted...
Just read up on this, its pretty awesome but why did no one mention this in my ffviii topic years ago?? I just got the braindead "squall is dead" theory


Just to be clear, THAT theory is dumb
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lordjers
12/10/18 3:55:47 PM
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l AM THE FUTURE... RINOA!
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12/10/18 3:59:59 PM
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pjbasis posted...
There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible.

I would still consider it something of a retcon if they really went that route though. Like it's a parallel world rinoa or some shit.

I don't know if it can really be a parallel timeline or whatever, FFVIII seems to be clear that there's only one, since Ultimecia tries to kompress it.
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12/10/18 4:08:23 PM
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... whatever
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pjbasis
12/10/18 4:11:50 PM
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Anagram posted...
pjbasis posted...
There's also no origin story for Ultimecia, so it's entirely plausible.

I would still consider it something of a retcon if they really went that route though. Like it's a parallel world rinoa or some shit.

I don't know if it can really be a parallel timeline or whatever, FFVIII seems to be clear that there's only one, since Ultimecia tries to kompress it.


In whatever future project of FFVIII that canonizes this theory, I expect it to make as much sense as the ffvii compilation stuff so
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12/10/18 6:21:07 PM
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Yes
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lordjers
12/10/18 8:52:43 PM
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Jenova was the main villain.
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Ringworm
12/10/18 9:10:34 PM
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They should remake the game with Ultimecia in the place of Rinoa and Seifer too. It would mostly work.

...Alternatively they could remake it as is. As a fan of the original, that would work too.
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12/10/18 9:32:57 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I've always believed it, because the ending makes no sense otherwise.

Then again everyone is Xehanort anyways.

I don't know if it makes more sense, but honestly, Ultimecia is more interesting as your girlfriend who tragically succumbed to powers beyond what mortals can comprehend, lost her memories, and tried to kill you and her past self. If that's not the case, then she's just evil and has no real backstory.
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WazzupGenius00
12/10/18 9:48:25 PM
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This dumb theory comes from people who think that the parallels between Rinoa and Ultimecia are the keys to a lore puzzle and not a tool to reinforce themes of the story

Theyre the type of people this video (which contains spoilers for the movie Annihilation) addresses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URo66iLNEZw" data-time="

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LeonhartFour
12/10/18 9:55:02 PM
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Anagram posted...
I don't know if it makes more sense, but honestly, Ultimecia is more interesting as your girlfriend who tragically succumbed to powers beyond what mortals can comprehend, lost her memories, and tried to kill you and her past self. If that's not the case, then she's just evil and has no real backstory.


Or she knows Squall will kill her if she doesn't do something to try to stop it and she just doesn't want to die
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