Current Events > George H.W. Bush, American War Criminal (lt)

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Omnislasher 12/09/18 12:10:42 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k02EYvX0_jU" data-time=" <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:913822270] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k02EYvX0_jU" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 12/09/18 12:12:17 PM #2:	"canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:913822335] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>"canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Correct_Facts 12/09/18 12:12:33 PM #3:	Omnislasher, known edgelord <cite>Correct_Facts posted [p:913822353] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>Omnislasher, known edgelord</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 12:15:38 PM #4:	the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!! --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913822482] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 12/09/18 12:16:48 PM #5:	FLUFFYGERM posted... the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!! You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis? --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:913822529] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!!</quote> You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 12:17:58 PM #7:	frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!! You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis? the mcdonalds workers have been brainwashed by capitalists and they don't realize that there is a better way they must rise up!! --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913822583] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!!</quote> You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis?</quote> the mcdonalds workers have been brainwashed by capitalists and they don't realize that there is a better way they must rise up!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 12/09/18 12:19:06 PM #8:	frozenshock posted... "canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on mainstream media: "Throughout his long life, George Bush was admired as a man of decency, modesty, and uncommon achievement." "George Herbert Walker Bush today is being remembered as a great man and as a gentle soul." Some of the extensive documentary record which discredits this hagiography is succinctly laid out in the video. so what do you mean, "Come on"? <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:913822618] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>"canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on</quote> mainstream media: "Throughout his long life, George Bush was admired as a man of decency, modesty, and uncommon achievement." "George Herbert Walker Bush today is being remembered as a great man and as a gentle soul." Some of the extensive documentary record which discredits this hagiography is succinctly laid out in the video. so what do you mean, "Come on"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 12/09/18 12:22:56 PM #10:	The Intercept is fucking trash. Since GWHB's death, The Intercept has repeatedly pushed this idea that the US is responsible for Saddam Hussein's 1990 invasion of Kuwait because then US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie said the US had "no opinion" on an ongoing (at that point, nonviolent) dispute between Iraq and Kuwait over a variety of issues including the border and Kuwait's level of oil production. They pushed this idea in the full length version of The Intercepted Podcast, on the Deconstructed podcast, and also in their written articles. This is a nonsense argument, and one pushed by folks who basically blame the US on every bad thing in the world. When she said that, she was referring to a diplomatic dispute between the two countries, she was not saying the US had no opinion on an invasion, which the US did not predict at the time was actually something Saddam was considering. And yet, The Intercept has blamed it all on the US that Saddam decided to invade and annex another UN member state. Another thing that invalidates this theory is that Saddam had plenty of time to pull out of Kuwait once he found out that the entire rest of the world was outraged and in complete opposition to the idea. Did he pull out? No, he kept his troops there until they were forced out by an international military coalition. I used to be a Jeremy Scahill fan, but over the last few years it has become evident that he is a dishonest actor. The same goes for the entire staff of The Intercept (maybe with a few exceptions). --- [This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator] <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:913822748] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>The Intercept is fucking trash. Since GWHB's death, The Intercept has repeatedly pushed this idea that the US is responsible for Saddam Hussein's 1990 invasion of Kuwait because then US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie said the US had "no opinion" on an ongoing (at that point, nonviolent) dispute between Iraq and Kuwait over a variety of issues including the border and Kuwait's level of oil production. They pushed this idea in the full length version of The Intercepted Podcast, on the Deconstructed podcast, and also in their written articles. This is a nonsense argument, and one pushed by folks who basically blame the US on every bad thing in the world. When she said that, she was referring to a diplomatic dispute between the two countries, she was not saying the US had no opinion on an invasion, which the US did not predict at the time was actually something Saddam was considering. And yet, The Intercept has blamed it all on the US that Saddam decided to invade and annex another UN member state. Another thing that invalidates this theory is that Saddam had plenty of time to pull out of Kuwait once he found out that the entire rest of the world was outraged and in complete opposition to the idea. Did he pull out? No, he kept his troops there until they were forced out by an international military coalition. I used to be a Jeremy Scahill fan, but over the last few years it has become evident that he is a dishonest actor. The same goes for the entire staff of The Intercept (maybe with a few exceptions).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 12/09/18 12:23:56 PM #11:	His son was worse and everyone thinks hes just a silly old man now --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:913822794] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>His son was worse and everyone thinks hes just a silly old man now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 12/09/18 12:28:46 PM #12:	Omnislasher posted... frozenshock posted... "canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on mainstream media: "Throughout his long life, George Bush was admired as a man of decency, modesty, and uncommon achievement." "George Herbert Walker Bush today is being remembered as a great man and as a gentle soul." Some of the extensive documentary record which discredits this hagiography is succinctly laid out in the video. so what do you mean, "Come on"? What do you want the media to say? Rip apart a dead man on his funeral? The guy's a former president and deserves a state funeral. Sure he did some bad things. The time to talk about those bad things was the 1992 election --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:913822995] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Omnislasher posted...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>"canonization of one of its imperial saints" Come on</quote> mainstream media: "Throughout his long life, George Bush was admired as a man of decency, modesty, and uncommon achievement." "George Herbert Walker Bush today is being remembered as a great man and as a gentle soul." Some of the extensive documentary record which discredits this hagiography is succinctly laid out in the video. so what do you mean, "Come on"?</quote> What do you want the media to say? Rip apart a dead man on his funeral? The guy's a former president and deserves a state funeral. Sure he did some bad things. The time to talk about those bad things was the 1992 election</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 12/09/18 12:30:11 PM #13:	frozenshock posted... The time to talk about those bad things was the 1992 election And ironically, none of those "bad things" were actually major issues during the campaign. The public was fine with it. What was a major issue? The fact that he raised taxes after promising not to. --- [This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator] <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:913823051] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote> The time to talk about those bad things was the 1992 election</quote> And ironically, none of those "bad things" were actually major issues during the campaign. The public was fine with it. What was a major issue? The fact that he raised taxes after promising not to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/09/18 12:30:18 PM #14:	frozenshock posted... What do you want the media to say? Rip apart a dead man on his funeral? Honestly acknowledge the impact he had on the world --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:913823057] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote>What do you want the media to say? Rip apart a dead man on his funeral? </quote> Honestly acknowledge the impact he had on the world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoshitoKikuchi 12/09/18 12:34:39 PM #16:	frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!! You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis? lol --- Dont be ridiculous. I think FIVE evil steps ahead https://imgur.com/YQpeyD3 <cite>YoshitoKikuchi posted [p:913823265] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!!</quote> You think that 17 year old dude flipping burgers at McDonald's is gonna seize anything more than the tip of his penis?</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 12/09/18 12:35:18 PM #17:	FLUFFYGERM posted... the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!! This, but unironically --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:913823283] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>the workers must rise up and seize the means of production!! then all these politicians will get what they deserve!!!!</quote> This, but unironically</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 12:35:59 PM #18:	LOL at the idea that any of this is "honestly acknowledging" anything. Let's be honest, holding a radical Marxist view in which America is by default the aggressor and the reason behind every negative outcome on the planet is not an honest worldview from which to interpret global politics. You will conclude that it's America's fault for everything. Weird how I didn't see you guys posting this shit before he died. Almost as if you....didn't care or it wasn't edgy enough. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913823308] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>LOL at the idea that any of this is "honestly acknowledging" anything. Let's be honest, holding a radical Marxist view in which America is by default the aggressor and the reason behind every negative outcome on the planet is not an honest worldview from which to interpret global politics. You will conclude that it's America's fault for everything. Weird how I didn't see you guys posting this shit before he died. Almost as if you....didn't care or it wasn't edgy enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 12/09/18 12:36:17 PM #19:	Which insult is worse, "he's a literal War Criminal!!" or "he's a literal Nazi!!" --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:913823315] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>Which insult is worse, "he's a literal War Criminal!!" or "he's a literal Nazi!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 12:43:17 PM #21:	Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913823616] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 12/09/18 12:47:04 PM #22:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer? William Henry Harrison --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:913823794] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer?</quote> William Henry Harrison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 12:47:35 PM #23:	frozenshock posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer? William Henry Harrison lol --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913823817] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer?</quote> William Henry Harrison</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 12/09/18 12:49:39 PM #24:	Proudclad having another melty about marxism --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:913823894] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>Proudclad having another melty about marxism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 12/09/18 12:50:20 PM #25:	I didnt watch the video, but if the topic title is anything to go by I was suspended for saying less about McCain. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:913823922] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>I didnt watch the video, but if the topic title is anything to go by I was suspended for saying less about McCain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 1:07:08 PM #27:	Godnorgosh posted... FLUFFYGERM posted... Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer? Does the fact that other presidents are and were killers exonerate 41 in your mind? Are you saying that all American presidents were imperialist killers? Because that just proves my earlier point. Someone who operates from a radical Marxist worldview where any American is a priori an imperialist and/or imperialist killer cannot be trusted to have an honest interpretation of Bush. Because they've already started with that position in mind. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913824764] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Who was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer?</quote> Does the fact that other presidents are and were killers exonerate 41 in your mind?</quote> Are you saying that all American presidents were imperialist killers? Because that just proves my earlier point. Someone who operates from a radical Marxist worldview where any American is a priori an imperialist and/or imperialist killer cannot be trusted to have an honest interpretation of Bush. Because they've already started with that position in mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 12/09/18 1:17:28 PM #29:	So who would you saw was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer? --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:913825344] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote>So who would you saw was the last American President you'd consider to not be an imperialist killer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 12/09/18 1:49:05 PM #31:	Godnorgosh posted... You'd probably have to go back to at least Truman before finding one who wasn't. What's the point of your question? They would have to go back before Truman, as he nuked Japan, got the US involved in the Korean War, and started the CIA, among other things. Some might not even allow FDR to be named because they will point to German, Japanese, and Italian civilians killed in Allied air raids while FDR was still alive. For the record, I think it's BS to call these people war criminals, but I've spent enough time listening to far-lefties that I know their talking points pretty well. --- [This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator] <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:913827022] in George H.W... [t:77285001]...</cite> <quote><cite>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>You'd probably have to go back to at least Truman before finding one who wasn't. What's the point of your question?</quote> They would have to go back before Truman, as he nuked Japan, got the US involved in the Korean War, and started the CIA, among other things. Some might not even allow FDR to be named because they will point to German, Japanese, and Italian civilians killed in Allied air raids while FDR was still alive. For the record, I think it's BS to call these people war criminals, but I've spent enough time listening to far-lefties that I know their talking points pretty well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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