Current Events > whoever in obsidian manage The Outer World's twitter account is fucking savage

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https://twitter.com/OuterWorldsNews/status/1070880630307725313
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Neither. Because I'm not an idiot that falls for childish "jabs" at a rival studio that is popular to hate right now. Just show off some gameplay and story.

Only correct response in that twitter thread.

Also...

NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout

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The original creators of Fallout vs. the current creators of Fallout... whos side are you on? #thegameawards #TheOuterWorlds

Obsidian 74%

Bethesda 26%

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People like to shit on New Vegas for being a bug riddled mess, but how much of that was based solely on the fact that Bethesda's development tools were utilized for its creation?

I'm hard pressed to think of anywhere it wasn't a much stronger (and more Fallout-esque in regards to how it played and the lore) game than Fallout 3 was.

Fallout 4 is them starting to head in another direction, and Fallout 76 is a different game entirely with the Fallout name attached. I honestly don't know wtf they're doing anymore. They could have just stuck with the same formula both 360 games used and it would have made for some solid releases imo.
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Vyrulisse posted...

NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout

yea didnt read that haha
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Seems weird though because it does look like an official page. I wonder if Obsidian will be getting in touch with this fella... although they may not seem the type to shut a guy down who hypes their games but who knows
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Vyrulisse posted...

Seems weird though because it does look like an official page. I wonder if Obsidian will be getting in touch with this fella... although they may not seem the type to shut a guy down who hypes their games but who knows

seems harmful enough. that's basically provoking people.
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anyway i had hoped brian mitsoda could join the development. he's the one who's responsible for much of the writing in vampires. but ah well. tim and leo is the last talent left in obsidian aside from sawyer who is probably on hiatus atm.

man, obs did bleed 5* talent. chris, ziets, gonzales, eric, mitsoda.
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>whos
Fffffff
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sauceje posted...

>whos
Fffffff

Wat
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apolloooo posted...

anyway i had hoped brian mitsoda could join the development. he's the one who's responsible for much of the writing in vampires. but ah well. tim and leo is the last talent left in obsidian aside from sawyer who is probably on hiatus atm.

man, obs did bleed 5* talent. chris, ziets, gonzales, eric, mitsoda.

I'd kill for another VTMB type game... the gameplay sucked but it didn't matter because the characters were so great and memorable
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Yeah honestly the gameplay was the weakest part but the game was brilliant in every other way.
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And the score, set the mood for the areas perfectly
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Vyrulisse posted...

And the score, set the mood for the areas perfectly

best radio station too
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Didn't Interplay make the first few Fallout games though
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Didn't Interplay make the first few Fallout games though

interplay published it. a small team of 5 or 6 from black isle studio made fallout 1. it was tim cain and leonard boyarsky pet project. they invited several co workers over a pizza after work, the 6 people who came became the fallout team. they pitched it to the executives and didnt have a go creating your usual schedule.

so fallout 1 was made with unpaid overtime, borrowing company's computer. when the game is finished they persuaded black isle to publish it, it was a hit, then fallout 2 was made now as an official project for black isle.
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apolloooo posted...

sauceje posted...

>whos
Fffffff

Wat

That should be "whose"
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They've been throwing mad shade at Bethesda lol

But I do like that there are people that are letting them know that they can and will enjoy both.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Also...

NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout

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Vyrulisse posted...

I'd kill for another VTMB type game... the gameplay sucked but it didn't matter because the characters were so great and memorable

You and me both. VTMB is my all time favorite game and I want another one so bad.
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Ultima Dragon posted...

People like to shit on New Vegas for being a bug riddled mess, but how much of that was based solely on the fact that Bethesda's development tools were utilized for its creation?

very little, since modders fairly easily fixed those bugs with the same creation tools...

obsidian had one job with NV, reskin FO3. they wrote a good story but they utterly fucked up with the actual game production.
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https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/8062-the-outer-worlds-interview-with-senior-narrative-designer-kathryn-megan-starks

So pretty much no immortal NPC confirmed. Like fallout new vegas (except yes man!) , pillars of eternity, original falloit, etc
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Ultima Dragon posted...

People like to shit on New Vegas for being a bug riddled mess

Wasn't FO3 also a bug riddled mess?

Yeah, it was literally the same thing just New Vegas was way better written.
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monkmith posted...

Ultima Dragon posted...

People like to shit on New Vegas for being a bug riddled mess, but how much of that was based solely on the fact that Bethesda's development tools were utilized for its creation?

very little, since modders fairly easily fixed those bugs with the same creation tools...

obsidian had one job with NV, reskin FO3. they wrote a good story but they utterly fucked up with the actual game production.

Much of that was because of the rushed production schedule. There was also a lot of stuff that had to be cut because they weren't given enough time.
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apolloooo posted...

https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/8062-the-outer-worlds-interview-with-senior-narrative-designer-kathryn-megan-starks

So pretty much no immortal NPC confirmed. Like fallout new vegas (except yes man!) , pillars of eternity, original falloit, etc

Megan Starks. That's a red flag.

She's responsible for this tripe:

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NV at release was a nightmare, but they did a very good job fixing those issues. Compare that to Skyrim, which is still only half-fixed to this day.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

monkmith posted...

Ultima Dragon posted...

People like to shit on New Vegas for being a bug riddled mess, but how much of that was based solely on the fact that Bethesda's development tools were utilized for its creation?

very little, since modders fairly easily fixed those bugs with the same creation tools...

obsidian had one job with NV, reskin FO3. they wrote a good story but they utterly fucked up with the actual game production.

Much of that was because of the rushed production schedule. There was also a lot of stuff that had to be cut because they weren't given enough time.

on one side you can say bethesda rushed them, on the other you can say obsidian is shit at managing their time. they've got a history of making buggy games so i'm more inclined to believe obsidian is just crap at game development.
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monkmith posted...

on one side you can say bethesda rushed them, on the other you can say obsidian is shit at managing their time. they've got a history of making buggy games so i'm more inclined to believe obsidian is just crap at game development.

Obsidian had a year and a half to make Fallout New Vegas.

Bethesda had four years to make Fallout 3.
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

monkmith posted...

on one side you can say bethesda rushed them, on the other you can say obsidian is shit at managing their time. they've got a history of making buggy games so i'm more inclined to believe obsidian is just crap at game development.

Obsidian had a year and a half to make Fallout New Vegas.

Bethesda had four years to make Fallout 3.

bethesda made the game from the ground up, all obsidian had to do was write a story.
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Fallout New Vegas is the better game but my experience with Fallout 3 was measures more memorable
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Fallout New Vegas is the better game but my experience with Fallout 3 was measures more memorable

Opposite for me. New Vegas to me is the better game and more memorable but Fallout 3 had plenty of memorable moments.

Dunwich Building
Gary Vault
The ANTagonizer

Just some that come to mind
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monkmith posted...

all obsidian had to do was write a story.

Sounds to me like you don't understand how game design works.
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Vyrulisse posted...

apolloooo posted...

https://www.rpgsite.net/interview/8062-the-outer-worlds-interview-with-senior-narrative-designer-kathryn-megan-starks

So pretty much no immortal NPC confirmed. Like fallout new vegas (except yes man!) , pillars of eternity, original falloit, etc

Megan Starks. That's a red flag.

She's responsible for this tripe:

yea. they dont really have any much writing talent left in there, i hope tim cain's classic design would make up for it lol.

i mean pillars 2 was meh af in term of writing
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