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Cotton_Eye_Joe
12/08/18 3:36:55 AM
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Is Baby It's Cold Outside rapey? - Results (11 votes)
Yes
36.36% (4 votes)
4
No
63.64% (7 votes)
7
Maybe
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SauI_Goodman
12/08/18 3:51:43 AM
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We have gotten so soft as a society. They are actually giving this song more popularity than it had before by not playing it. dumb dumb dumb!
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_MorningStar
12/08/18 3:53:02 AM
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Ok,what the fuck is this shit?
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UnholyMudcrab
12/08/18 3:54:20 AM
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Wetterdew
12/08/18 3:57:28 AM
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One of the lines in the song from the person trying to leave is literally "Say what's in this drink?" So yeah, it's rapey.
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SauI_Goodman
12/08/18 4:02:27 AM
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Wetterdew posted...
One of the lines in the song from the person trying to leave is literally "Say what's in this drink?" So yeah, it's rapey.

arrrrgh this has been explained multiple times.

http://persephonemagazine.com/2010/12/listening-while-feminist-in-defense-of-baby-its-cold-outside/
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Lord_Wombat
12/08/18 4:05:20 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Wetterdew posted...
One of the lines in the song from the person trying to leave is literally "Say what's in this drink?" So yeah, it's rapey.

arrrrgh this has been explained multiple times.

http://persephonemagazine.com/2010/12/listening-while-feminist-in-defense-of-baby-its-cold-outside/

Considering nobody gave the slightest of shits about the song for decades, you'd be better off not wasting your time explaining it.

After all, anyone offended after this long is either pretending to be offended, or they're just fucking stupid.

Either way, they're not worth the 5 seconds it would take to prove them wrong.
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Wetterdew
12/08/18 4:21:57 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Wetterdew posted...
One of the lines in the song from the person trying to leave is literally "Say what's in this drink?" So yeah, it's rapey.

arrrrgh this has been explained multiple times.

http://persephonemagazine.com/2010/12/listening-while-feminist-in-defense-of-baby-its-cold-outside/

I read the article and if that is true then I would agree with you, it might have been innocent. IMO the song can be interpreted either way. I still don't like the song because rape is such a big problem and it feels weird to sing a happy song where a guy is being so goddamn insistent when the girl is saying no, even if playfully.
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Esrac
12/08/18 4:34:13 AM
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The only way I could see someone thinking the song is rapey is if they have some kind of disorder, or something, that prevents them from picking up on social cues.
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Foppe
12/08/18 4:39:53 AM
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Esrac posted...
The only way I could see someone thinking the song is rapey is if they have some kind of disorder, or something, that prevents them from picking up on social cues.

Sounds like the average SJW.
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kingdrake2
12/08/18 4:42:04 AM
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Foppe posted...
Esrac posted...
The only way I could see someone thinking the song is rapey is if they have some kind of disorder, or something, that prevents them from picking up on social cues.

Sounds like the average SJW.


they already won on several major fronts. fucking censorship obtained for steam and playstation. tried warning them this would happen but they didn't listen.
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Lord_Wombat
12/08/18 4:50:58 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
Foppe posted...
Esrac posted...
The only way I could see someone thinking the song is rapey is if they have some kind of disorder, or something, that prevents them from picking up on social cues.

Sounds like the average SJW.


they already won on several major fronts. fucking censorship obtained for steam and playstation. tried warning them this would happen but they didn't listen.

Tbf not wanting animated prepubescent girls being sexualized in gaming doesn't make one a SJW.
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kingdrake2
12/08/18 4:52:26 AM
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still counts as a victory even if it isn't their front.
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Lord_Wombat
12/08/18 5:10:03 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
still counts as a victory even if it isn't their front.

Fair enough.
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scar the 1
12/08/18 5:14:51 AM
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A modern reading could conclude that the song is rapey, yeah. Originally it's about a woman who wants to stay but knows that society would judge her for it. The man is sensitive to this and suggests legitimate excuses. But that context isn't readily remembered by everyone, since most people who lived in that time are dead or dying. So of course people hearing it today would associate it with a bit more rapey tones. That's why it's good to talk about it, so people grow informed and their reading can become more nuanced.
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garan
12/08/18 5:15:52 AM
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As of right now, a third of CE is fucking moronic enough to think this song has anything to do with rape.
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lilORANG
12/09/18 1:54:55 PM
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It's a duet lol. She's literally agreeing with him at parts that it's cold outside and doesn't want to leave.

also, she asks him for a cigarette so she can stay longer. And this is after the "what's in this drink" line, so it's obvious she isn't suspecting foul play or whatever and just wants to bone.
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catboy0_0
12/09/18 1:55:38 PM
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no
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Zodd3224
12/09/18 1:56:32 PM
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Lord_Wombat posted...
kingdrake2 posted...
Foppe posted...
Esrac posted...
The only way I could see someone thinking the song is rapey is if they have some kind of disorder, or something, that prevents them from picking up on social cues.

Sounds like the average SJW.


they already won on several major fronts. fucking censorship obtained for steam and playstation. tried warning them this would happen but they didn't listen.

Tbf not wanting animated prepubescent girls being sexualized in gaming doesn't make one a SJW.

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AvantgardeAClue
12/09/18 1:56:35 PM
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For fuck's sake their conversation is meant to be playful
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uwnim
12/09/18 1:56:59 PM
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Haven't really listened to it all the way because the song is just garbage in general.
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scar the 1
12/10/18 2:34:13 AM
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lilORANG posted...
also, she asks him for a cigarette so she can stay longer. And this is after the "what's in this drink" line, so it's obvious she isn't suspecting foul play or whatever and just wants to bone.

The "what's in this drink" thing was a common joke back then, and is meant as in "this seems really weak with no alcohol, what's in this drink?".
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gguirao
12/10/18 2:38:55 AM
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I don't think so.
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