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Doctor Foxx
12/07/18 5:09:40 PM
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minervo
12/07/18 5:32:55 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty.
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joemodda
12/07/18 5:39:22 PM
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We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different
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GanonsSpirit
12/07/18 5:50:24 PM
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In before Mueller gets fired.
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Mead
12/07/18 5:55:05 PM
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minervo posted...
Innocent until proven guilty.


Wait a bit.
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ClarkDuke
12/07/18 6:12:13 PM
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joemodda posted...
We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different

Unlike the movies, courts are painfully slow, ok?
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Mead
12/07/18 6:14:44 PM
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joemodda posted...
We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different


This is the first time the justice department has implicated him by name in regards to committing a serious crime

But I guess facts dont matter as long as youre outraged
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Doctor Foxx
12/07/18 8:53:27 PM
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Mead posted...
joemodda posted...
We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different


This is the first time the justice department has implicated him by name in regards to committing a serious crime

But I guess facts dont matter as long as youre outraged

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Magus 10
12/07/18 9:26:59 PM
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minervo posted...
Innocent until proven guilty.


I'm not quite sure what your point is.

Yes, he's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but anyone can look at the evidence and see that he's guilty of something, since he's committed crimes in interviews and in his twitter posts...
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MisterXiado
12/07/18 10:47:41 PM
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But he still doesn't have dozens of former bodyguards, investors, and business partners' ghosts trudging behind him with accusing fingers. Make Donald Trump mad, and he'll mock you openly. Make a Clinton mad, and you'll fall down an elevator shaft onto six bullets from two different guns with a suicide note written in Chinese stuffed in your mouth.
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Doctor Foxx
12/07/18 11:37:34 PM
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MisterXiado posted...
But he still doesn't have dozens of former bodyguards, investors, and business partners' ghosts trudging behind him with accusing fingers. Make Donald Trump mad, and he'll mock you openly. Make a Clinton mad, and you'll fall down an elevator shaft onto six bullets from two different guns with a suicide note written in Chinese stuffed in your mouth.

I think this comment would make them mad but you'll still be posting this nonsense

What about them?
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DrPrimemaster
12/08/18 12:12:16 AM
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So they have to prove that Trump explicitly told the guy to pay off people in order to get him for anything?

Also its weird that the twitter feed is way more informative than the article.
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Keebs05
12/08/18 12:27:46 AM
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Entering Year 3 of allegations

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darkknight109
12/08/18 1:47:51 PM
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minervo posted...
Innocent until proven guilty.

is a criminal standard used in courts of law. Thank you for mentioning it.

It's also completely immaterial to the discussion at hand, because it has nothing to do with whether or not someone actually did something that they're being accused of, but rather whether they can be punished for it. Witness how someone can gun down a dozen people on camera and be immediately captured by the police and they also would be considered innocent until proven guilty, despite the fact that they clearly committed the acts alleged against them.

Keebs05 posted...
Entering Year 3 of allegations

Incidentally, two-year-and-change is exactly how long it took Watergate to get from first allegations to Nixon's resignation.

These things don't move quickly, and Watergate had the advantage of an inside man to steer the investigation. Mueller looks like he'll be filing his report some time in the next few months, so he's going to come in about half a year behind the Watergate timeline. Not bad, all things considered.

MisterXiado posted...
Make a Clinton mad, and you'll fall down an elevator shaft onto six bullets from two different guns with a suicide note written in Chinese stuffed in your mouth.

Exactly. And that's why Monica Lewinsky is... alive and well and still talking about the Clinton affair?

joemodda posted...
We've got him now! Not unlike the previous million times we got him though, this time will be different

Technically this is still the first time, given that it's all from the same inquiry.

But sure, if we ignore the fact that charges have been laid against Trump's national security advisor, foreign policy advisor, lawyer, campaign manager, and deputy campaign manager, as well as a score of Russian operatives, I'm sure the whole thing looks like a big ol' pile of nothing.
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TheOrangeMisfit
12/08/18 2:43:01 PM
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Blumpf is done for this time guys, we really mean it
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Doctor Foxx
12/08/18 5:08:33 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/mueller-briefs-bad-news-trump-manafort-and-cohen/577681/

Keep in mind Ken White is the author and yeah
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MisterXiado
12/08/18 6:43:52 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Exactly. And that's why Monica Lewinsky is... alive and well and still talking about the Clinton affair?


An abbreviated list of coincidences:

1 James McDougal Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starrs investigation.

2 Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 Vince Foster Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rocks Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Browns skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992 Described by Clinton as a Dear friend and trusted advisor.

7- Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 Jerry Parks Head of Clintons gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Parks son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a Black Book of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
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MisterXiado
12/08/18 6:44:11 PM
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11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clintons friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 Florence Martin Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 Paula Grober Clintons speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 October Surprise was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
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WastelandCowboy
12/08/18 6:48:25 PM
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MisterXiado posted...
[a whole lot of grasping at straws]

Your tinfoil hat is showing.
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MisterXiado
12/08/18 6:58:57 PM
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21- Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clintons advisory council personally treated Clintons mother, stepfather and brother.

23 Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 Kevin Ives and Don Henry Known as The boys on the track case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 Keith McMaskle Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
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MisterXiado
12/08/18 7:00:39 PM
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Hey, I said they were "coincidences". Interpret these deaths as you see fit.

31 Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes.

34 Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 Major General William Robertson 41 Col. William Densberger 42 Col. Robert Kelly 43 Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 Steve Willis 45 Robert Williams 46 Conway LeBleu 47 Todd McKeehan

48 -World-renowned space economist Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.

49-John Ashe- The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home

50-Victor Thorn-Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday

51-Seth Rich-Still No Clues in Murder of DNCs Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken

52- Joe Montano-Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47

53-Shawn Lucas-Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories
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Magus 10
12/08/18 7:01:23 PM
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I'm confused, are you just listing random people that have died?
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WastelandCowboy
12/09/18 1:23:37 PM
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Magus 10 posted...
I'm confused, are you just listing random people that have died?

He's just listing people that at one point or another did something for the Clinton family, the DNC, etc.

People die. It's life.
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Blighboy
12/09/18 1:27:46 PM
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Clinton is one of the most influential people in the country and yet Killary REFUSES to grant immortality who all of her cultists.

Coincidence?
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Doctor Foxx
12/10/18 1:09:59 PM
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SunWuKung420
12/10/18 1:17:14 PM
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LOL
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BlackestGarden
12/10/18 1:17:40 PM
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The whataboutism is real ITT.
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argonautweakend
12/10/18 1:19:30 PM
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This entire investigation should have ended when i, personally, grew tired of it and wished it would stop.

edit: and since this investigation is pretty much here because libs are salty they lost the election and only because of that, i grew tired of it the moment it [email protected]
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Mead
12/10/18 3:12:39 PM
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https://observer.com/2018/12/president-trump-really-may-go-to-jail-for-the-rest-of-his-life/

Hes gonna have to hope 46 takes pity on him and issues a pardon for his NO COLLUSION
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Blighboy
12/10/18 3:37:42 PM
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Mead posted...
president-trump-really-may-go-to-jail-for-the-rest-of-his-life/

He absolutely won't.

Mead posted...
Hes gonna have to hope 46 takes pity on him and issues a pardon

He absolutely would.
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Mead
12/10/18 3:48:23 PM
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Time will tell.
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Doctor Foxx
12/10/18 4:12:38 PM
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He'd be going to prison rather than jail

If he resigns Pence could pardon him.
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Doctor Foxx
12/10/18 4:15:20 PM
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SeahorseCpt89
12/10/18 5:39:55 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
He'd be going to prison rather than jail

If he resigns Pence could pardon him.

Thats what I expect to happen. Thats how Nixon avoided jail time; he resigned and Fords first act in office was to pardon him.
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Mead
12/10/18 5:42:22 PM
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SeahorseCpt89 posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...
He'd be going to prison rather than jail

If he resigns Pence could pardon him.

Thats what I expect to happen. Thats how Nixon avoided jail time; he resigned and Fords first act in office was to pardon him.


Then they installed special mirrors so they could look at each others butts at the same time
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Yellow
12/10/18 5:42:29 PM
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I haven't cared much about this investigation. The Republicans will never impeach him, and then we just get Pence, a legally bribed politician.
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streamofthesky
12/10/18 6:40:46 PM
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Mead posted...
https://observer.com/2018/12/president-trump-really-may-go-to-jail-for-the-rest-of-his-life/

Hes gonna have to hope 46 takes pity on him and issues a pardon for his NO COLLUSION

That all sounds lovely, but I hope that they're tying Mike Pence to this shit as well, lest we get an even worse person as president.

Ironically, the 2016 election crimes could lead to the first female president after all -- New House Speaker Pelosi is next in line after the VP.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/10/18 7:02:24 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Mead posted...
https://observer.com/2018/12/president-trump-really-may-go-to-jail-for-the-rest-of-his-life/

Hes gonna have to hope 46 takes pity on him and issues a pardon for his NO COLLUSION

That all sounds lovely, but I hope that they're tying Mike Pence to this shit as well, lest we get an even worse person as president.

Ironically, the 2016 election crimes could lead to the first female president after all -- New House Speaker Pelosi is next in line after the VP.

Oh God they'll be rioting in the streets if she takes over
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ClarkDuke
12/11/18 4:27:20 AM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Mead posted...
https://observer.com/2018/12/president-trump-really-may-go-to-jail-for-the-rest-of-his-life/

Hes gonna have to hope 46 takes pity on him and issues a pardon for his NO COLLUSION

That all sounds lovely, but I hope that they're tying Mike Pence to this shit as well, lest we get an even worse person as president.

Ironically, the 2016 election crimes could lead to the first female president after all -- New House Speaker Pelosi is next in line after the VP.

Oh God they'll be rioting in the streets if she takes over

You sold me with rioting, ok?
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argonautweakend
12/12/18 12:48:35 PM
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cohen 3 yrs in prison.

i dont know what this all means but felt like sharing, assuming this is new news. idk,ok?
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RCtheWSBC
12/12/18 5:34:09 PM
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From the US Department of Justice:

Between 2012 and 2016, COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the Internal Revenue Service, avoiding more than $1.3 million in income tax. COHEN also made false statements to a federally insured financial institution to obtain a $500,000 home equity loan.

Finally, in 2016, COHEN made or caused two separate payments to women to ensure that they did not publicly disclose their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate in advance of the election. In one instance, COHEN caused American Media, Inc. (AMI), which was identified in previous court filings as Corporation-1, to make a $150,000 payment to one woman; in the other, COHEN made a $130,000 payment to another woman through an LLC he incorporated for the purpose of making the payment. COHEN was reimbursed for the latter payment in monthly installments disguised as payments for legal services performed pursuant to a retainer, when in fact no such retainer existed.

COHEN made or caused both of these payments in order to influence the 2016 election and did so in coordination with one or more members of the campaign.


AMI is the owner of the National Inquirer.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-sentenced-3-years-prison
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RCtheWSBC
12/12/18 5:40:37 PM
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streamofthesky
12/12/18 5:57:22 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
From the US Department of Justice:

Between 2012 and 2016, COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the Internal Revenue Service, avoiding more than $1.3 million in income tax. COHEN also made false statements to a federally insured financial institution to obtain a $500,000 home equity loan.

Finally, in 2016, COHEN made or caused two separate payments to women to ensure that they did not publicly disclose their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate in advance of the election. In one instance, COHEN caused American Media, Inc. (AMI), which was identified in previous court filings as Corporation-1, to make a $150,000 payment to one woman; in the other, COHEN made a $130,000 payment to another woman through an LLC he incorporated for the purpose of making the payment. COHEN was reimbursed for the latter payment in monthly installments disguised as payments for legal services performed pursuant to a retainer, when in fact no such retainer existed.

COHEN made or caused both of these payments in order to influence the 2016 election and did so in coordination with one or more members of the campaign.


AMI is the owner of the National Inquirer.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-sentenced-3-years-prison

Fascinating. You'd think the National Inquirer of all companies would be all over such alleged affairs and attempts to pay the women off, publishing all sorts of tawdry articles about it.

And yet, they participated in hiding the scoop. How perplexing.... (sarcasm)
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/12/18 6:32:09 PM
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sTiLl bEtTeR tHaN hIlLaRy
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Doctor Foxx
12/13/18 1:53:46 PM
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Doctor Foxx
12/14/18 1:46:51 PM
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SunWuKung420
12/14/18 5:05:21 PM
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I think Russia is loving this.

Watching trump flounder, the American populace at odds, poverty on the rise, Chinese economy controlling ours. It's all the things we made because of our greed.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
12/14/18 5:09:06 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I think Russia is loving this.

Watching trump flounder, the American populace at odds, poverty on the rise, Chinese economy controlling ours. It's all the things we made because of our greed.

Don't forget comrade Zeus is totally a democrat.
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Doctor Foxx
12/18/18 1:57:24 AM
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Twitter has been a good time lol
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