Current Events > Tbqh, if you just mindlessly judge addicts you're probably a bad person.

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OctilIery
12/08/18 11:20:41 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
OctilIery posted...
Kolibri X posted...
You do realize you just mindlessly judged people in your topic title.

"tolerate my intolerance"

More like "I get to call people bad people but others shouldn't."

No, I had it right the first time.
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OctilIery
12/08/18 11:21:31 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I cant sympathize with repeated terrible decisions. Its like smoking and then complaining about your lung cancer

It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.
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mario2000
12/08/18 11:32:05 AM
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maybe, but im a better person than addicts tho
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ChainedRedone
12/08/18 11:38:31 AM
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lincoln002 posted...
100% agreed. It's a terrible thing to experience or witness what it can do to someone. Speaking from experience, I've battled with Marijuana addiction for nearly a decade and it's what triggered my first psychotic experience and I've been battling mental illness ever since always doing good in life when I'm not smoking until I relapse again :( right now I have a supportive wife and have been clean for over 3 months. I was never a drinker but mj has messed me up.


Careful bro. CE will tell you marijuana addiction is bullshit and marijuana is harmless.

anyways this is an obvious D. If you're in active addiction, probably yeah. If you're recovered, you probably a good person (you pretty much have to be unless you want to stay using/drinking)
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Anteaterking
12/08/18 11:52:47 AM
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OctilIery posted...
It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.


He's not being especially empathetic, but I think you're glossing over how people get addicted in the first place.

Maybe you don't judge someone for using drugs they're addicted to, but maybe you should judge people for e.g. recreationally using drugs and then building a dependence.
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OctilIery
12/08/18 1:17:30 PM
#56:


mario2000 posted...
maybe, but im a better person than addicts tho

Nope.

Anteaterking posted...
OctilIery posted...
It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.


He's not being especially empathetic, but I think you're glossing over how people get addicted in the first place.

Maybe you don't judge someone for using drugs they're addicted to, but maybe you should judge people for e.g. recreationally using drugs and then building a dependence.

No, you really shouldn't.
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rikasa
12/08/18 1:20:01 PM
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don't worry I judge everyone but NOT mindlessly

the real test if someone's an enlightened individual or another shitty sheep? ask them how they feel about parents who left their baby in a hot car.
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Anteaterking
12/08/18 1:23:07 PM
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OctilIery posted...
No, you really shouldn't.


I'm not saying that I think you should. I just don't think you've really done a good job of defending that viewpoint. You've mostly just defended that we shouldn't judge people for doing things that addiction makes them do.

Does this hold in your mind for essentially any problem that arises because of poor decisions that people make? Does the severity of the consequences change how much we can judge people for the initial decision?

Etc.
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OctilIery
12/08/18 1:31:44 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
OctilIery posted...
No, you really shouldn't.


I'm not saying that I think you should. I just don't think you've really done a good job of defending that viewpoint. You've mostly just defended that we shouldn't judge people for doing things that addiction makes them do.

Does this hold in your mind for essentially any problem that arises because of poor decisions that people make? Does the severity of the consequences change how much we can judge people for the initial decision?

Etc.

There are definitely situations where the judgement is OK, what I'm saying is if you see them and judge them without knowing their history, then you're a bad person for judging them.

If you don't know the circumstances of the original decision, you can't judge.
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Lost_All_Senses
12/08/18 1:51:16 PM
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It's so easy to tell who has no experience with actual addicts. Mostly the ones who speak as if being an addict automatically makes you immoral.
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OctilIery
12/08/18 3:40:36 PM
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Bump
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Kaiganeer
12/08/18 3:59:58 PM
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nah, they're mostly scum, and i'm saying that as someone who was raised by two of them and shiftmanaged at a fast food place located in a metro station for almost 6 years

drug use should be punished just as harshly as sale or manufacture
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OctilIery
12/08/18 4:13:12 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...
nah, they're mostly scum

Case in point, you're a bad person.
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LightningAce11
12/08/18 4:13:52 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Nope
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OctilIery
12/08/18 4:20:51 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
OctilIery posted...
Nope

Hey look an irrelevant poster
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JfAtS1O3N
12/08/18 4:22:56 PM
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I feel sympathy for addicts who realize the mistakes they've made and are trying really hard to make an honest effort to quit their addiction but can't get over the hump.

I don't have much sympathy for addicts like my sister, who's addicted to heroin, who realizes she's a heroin addict but does nothing to attempt to overcome it despite being faced with multiple opportunities, she's lost custody of all five of her kids cause she's an unfit parent, yet she comes up with every excuse under the sun to not take accountability for her actions and still comes up with a sob story for why she should be able to take care of her kids when she clearly can't do so.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/18 9:40:04 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I cant sympathize with repeated terrible decisions. Its like smoking and then complaining about your lung cancer

It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.

maybe dont get addicted in the first place. wow so hard lmao
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PleaseClap
12/08/18 9:54:30 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
OctilIery posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I cant sympathize with repeated terrible decisions. Its like smoking and then complaining about your lung cancer

It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.

maybe dont get addicted in the first place. wow so hard lmao

You dont have much life experience, do you?
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Rika_Furude
12/08/18 10:12:30 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
OctilIery posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I cant sympathize with repeated terrible decisions. Its like smoking and then complaining about your lung cancer

It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.

maybe dont get addicted in the first place. wow so hard lmao

You dont have much life experience, do you?

enough to not go addicted to stupid shit and get lung cancer
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OctilIery
12/08/18 10:26:57 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
OctilIery posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I cant sympathize with repeated terrible decisions. Its like smoking and then complaining about your lung cancer

It's almost like you don't understand what addiction is

Given you, that's believable.

maybe dont get addicted in the first place. wow so hard lmao

You dont have much life experience, do you?

He doesn't have much of anything that would qualify him to talk here.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/18 10:27:46 PM
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OctilIery
12/08/18 10:29:08 PM
#73:


Rika_Furude posted...
thats rich coming from you

Nah, just accurate.
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Rika_Furude
12/08/18 10:31:53 PM
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Knowledge_King
12/09/18 7:21:43 PM
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Nah. An addiction tells a lot about someone. You can easily judge them accurately.
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Kitt
12/09/18 7:24:08 PM
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I clicked on this topic expecting to read through a shitshow. It delivered.
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nemu
12/09/18 7:24:58 PM
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Yes and no. Some people have no intention of ever trying to get better. They lie to and cheat the people they know for a fix. They let their kids live in squalor. They remain scumbags for their whole lives. Other people can make it out and return to life as if the addiction was just a passing phase.
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a-c-a-b
12/09/18 7:32:12 PM
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Addiction comes in many different shapes and forms. From the poorest guy on the streets to the richest asshole. And many more people in between.

Lots of stupidity in this topic.
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OctilIery
12/10/18 3:05:22 PM
#79:


nemu posted...
Yes and no. Some people have no intention of ever trying to get better. They lie to and cheat the people they know for a fix. They let their kids live in squalor. They remain scumbags for their whole lives. Other people can make it out and return to life as if the addiction was just a passing phase.

The point isn't that they're all good but if you judge then just for being addicts, it says a lot more about you because you don't know that they're bad people.
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Rika_Furude
12/10/18 11:08:27 PM
#80:


OctilIery posted...
nemu posted...
Yes and no. Some people have no intention of ever trying to get better. They lie to and cheat the people they know for a fix. They let their kids live in squalor. They remain scumbags for their whole lives. Other people can make it out and return to life as if the addiction was just a passing phase.

The point isn't that they're all good but if you judge then just for being addicts, it says a lot more about you because you don't know that they're bad people.

And we're saying youre incorrect
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OctilIery
12/11/18 9:51:25 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
OctilIery posted...
nemu posted...
Yes and no. Some people have no intention of ever trying to get better. They lie to and cheat the people they know for a fix. They let their kids live in squalor. They remain scumbags for their whole lives. Other people can make it out and return to life as if the addiction was just a passing phase.

The point isn't that they're all good but if you judge then just for being addicts, it says a lot more about you because you don't know that they're bad people.

And we're saying youre incorrect

You don't get a say, sorry boy
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Rika_Furude
12/12/18 12:27:25 AM
#82:


OctilIery posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
OctilIery posted...
nemu posted...
Yes and no. Some people have no intention of ever trying to get better. They lie to and cheat the people they know for a fix. They let their kids live in squalor. They remain scumbags for their whole lives. Other people can make it out and return to life as if the addiction was just a passing phase.

The point isn't that they're all good but if you judge then just for being addicts, it says a lot more about you because you don't know that they're bad people.

And we're saying youre incorrect

You don't get a say, sorry boy

You dont either then. It all works out in the end.
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OctilIery
12/12/18 1:52:36 AM
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Anyways, moving on from the irrelevant poster
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Rika_Furude
12/12/18 3:54:08 AM
#84:


OctilIery posted...
Anyways, moving on from the irrelevant poster

Irony
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OctilIery
12/12/18 12:26:54 PM
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Up
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OctilIery
12/13/18 1:57:36 PM
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So many of my coworkers here are recovered addicts as well, cool to see them going back and putting more work into helping others recover the same way.
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HowardStern69
12/13/18 2:12:57 PM
#87:


mattnd2007 posted...
I feel for people hooked on narcotics. A lot of that starts as a legit prescription for a pain problem of some sort. But someone that is a Coke or meth head I find a lot harder to understand


I moved on to meth from prescribed adderall. Its not quite as common, but it happens. I had a little AMA here on an alt account a month or two ago about it.
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OctilIery
12/13/18 3:56:05 PM
#88:


HowardStern69 posted...
mattnd2007 posted...
I feel for people hooked on narcotics. A lot of that starts as a legit prescription for a pain problem of some sort. But someone that is a Coke or meth head I find a lot harder to understand


I moved on to meth from prescribed adderall. Its not quite as common, but it happens. I had a little AMA here on an alt account a month or two ago about it.

I haven't heard of that happening through prescribed Adderall, but it's definitely possible. Sucks, man, I hope you're doing well now.
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