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P4wn4g3
12/13/18 12:19:37 PM
#301:


wackyteen posted...
Predicted 50 Skill Spheres.

Got 50 Skill Spheres


Also beat Galeem with Captain Falcon(killed Galeem off with Falcon Punch) while listening to Falcon Punch.

That's not a spoiler =/
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wackyteen
12/13/18 12:21:44 PM
#302:


P4wn4g3 posted...

That's not a spoiler =/

Rewards are spoilers.
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P4wn4g3
12/13/18 12:24:09 PM
#303:


wackyteen posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...

That's not a spoiler =/

Rewards are spoilers.

I don't think that's true.

You get skill points for every battle. Not a spoiler.
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krazychao5
12/13/18 1:06:23 PM
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krazychao5
12/13/18 1:16:02 PM
#306:


I'm pissed how often the Hands are the final boss. There was one I did where I thought it would be a boss, but it was the Hands.
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Banjo2553
12/13/18 1:21:56 PM
#307:


I just decided to try Bowser yesterday and holy shit he's fast. He was buffed a lot in Smash 4 but still relatively slow, here he's as fast as any other character and that's scary.
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ThePrinceFish
12/13/18 2:03:19 PM
#308:


Godnorgosh posted...
Was anyone else surprised by Classic Mode when Pac-Man fights Dracula? That was a huge wtf moment for me. Not that I'm complaining. That's probably my favorite boss so far.

lmao the first time I did Classic was with Marth and I was shocked when the final boss was Rathalos rather than Master Hand. I did it with Simon after, and I joked to my friends that since Marth didn't fight Master Hand, maybe Simon's fight would be with Dracula.

Then the stage loaded and everyone in the room went "oohhh shit"
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HylianFox
12/13/18 2:24:27 PM
#310:


Godnorgosh posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
I just decided to try Bowser yesterday and holy shit he's fast. He was buffed a lot in Smash 4 but still relatively slow, here he's as fast as any other character and that's scary.


Good. We need some high-tier heavies, for once. Nothing stupidly broken or ban-worthy, just able to keep up with the best.

THIS. I love how heavy characters are actually fun to play as this time around
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/13/18 2:59:31 PM
#311:


Is it just me... or does Game and Watch REALLY suck in Ultimate? Yikes.
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Holy_Pumpkin
12/13/18 3:00:31 PM
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P4wn4g3
12/13/18 3:03:14 PM
#313:


My switch FC is in my account info, if that's what you mean.
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Holy_Pumpkin
12/13/18 3:06:57 PM
#314:


P4wn4g3 posted...
My switch FC is in my account info, if that's what you mean.


When I get off work I'll look up my FC and add whoever wants to link up sometime. Meant the GSP ranking thing online. If there's enough east coast CE smashers I'm willing to host/assist hosting a tourney Q1 next year and let the grand prize be a $60 steam game or something.
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CM_Ponch
12/13/18 3:07:09 PM
#315:


So for everyone who's beaten WoL
that Master Hand segment tho
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Alpha218
12/13/18 3:08:06 PM
#316:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Is it just me... or does Game and Watch REALLY suck in Ultimate? Yikes.

G&W has never been good so if thats true, its nothing new.

His new F-air is cool though
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iClockwork
12/13/18 3:17:56 PM
#317:


Holy_Pumpkin posted...
what's your gsp guys? :3

Fucking terrible. My highest is my Mii Gunner with 500k
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krazychao5
12/13/18 3:18:37 PM
#318:


Alpha218 posted...
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Is it just me... or does Game and Watch REALLY suck in Ultimate? Yikes.

G&W has never been good so if thats true, its nothing new.

His new F-air is cool though

I hate the new fair. I want turtle all day, but I mess it up all the time.
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Alpha218
12/13/18 3:20:32 PM
#319:


He still has the turtle though, thats his B-air
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Holy_Pumpkin
12/13/18 3:21:53 PM
#320:


iClockwork posted...
Holy_Pumpkin posted...
what's your gsp guys? :3

Fucking terrible. My highest is my Mii Gunner with 500k


Best practice is facing tough opponents. I'll be playing Saturday morning est til noon. Show me your moves if you're available.
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iClockwork
12/13/18 3:31:40 PM
#321:


Holy_Pumpkin posted...
Best practice is facing tough opponents. I'll be playing Saturday morning est til noon. Show me your moves if you're available.

To my credit I rarely get blown out I just cant seem to finish anyone. I usually lose with my opponent having 1 stock < 90%
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wackyteen
12/13/18 4:02:35 PM
#322:


lmfao wow

i just watched AI Bowser detach from a ledge and move back perfectly to trounce me into the depths

he moved and landed perfectly on top of me.
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P4wn4g3
12/13/18 4:14:27 PM
#324:


Godnorgosh posted...
wackyteen posted...
lmfao wow

i just watched AI Bowser detach from a ledge and move back perfectly to trounce me into the depths

he moved and landed perfectly on top of me.


The CPUs are actually decent now.

Yeah, they are beastly. And still will always perfect guard and perfect dodge. They could add in more margin for error there tbh, they don't need to always perfectly execute their moves.
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MrK3V
12/13/18 7:39:07 PM
#325:


I fucking suck at fighting the hands.

I have never beaten classic in one try yet lol

I get to like 10.4, a lot, and then keep losing.
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DeathVelvien
12/13/18 7:44:17 PM
#326:


Simon is sooooo fun
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MrK3V
12/13/18 8:09:18 PM
#327:


DeathVelvien posted...
Simon is sooooo fun


The whip is so satisfying

and his down-a is money
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MacadamianNut3
12/13/18 9:14:45 PM
#328:


Anybody know where to find patch notes for 1.2.0

All I heard was improved matchmaking

Edit: oh they're ingame
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pikachupwnage
12/13/18 9:19:05 PM
#329:


Godnorgosh posted...
Was anyone else surprised by Classic Mode when Pac-Man fights Dracula? That was a huge wtf moment for me. Not that I'm complaining. That's probably my favorite boss so far.


I am guessing his theme was retro characters?
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Phantom_Nook
12/13/18 10:52:36 PM
#330:


With Palutena, I have all the characters.

Speaking of which, what's this I hear about her being better in this game?
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Dragonblade01
12/13/18 11:05:53 PM
#331:


Now that I've unlocked every character, I finally got around to settling on a main. Pikachu is just too much fun.

I also like Little Mac and surprisingly Robin.
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Zero_Destroyer
12/13/18 11:28:31 PM
#332:


W9GINuS

early roster impressions (unordered within tiers, maybe missing a few in solid, like half the cast wasn't even ranked because this is about gauging "the best" early)

-this might be the first game since 64 where Yoshi is a high tier contender

-Pichu's actually good lol why

-Most Sm4sh high/top tiers are still good after tweaks

-Roy/Chrom really do appear to be good, but I expect "corrections" to happen and for them to eventually drop pretty rapidly

-Best heavy is either DK or Rool. Ridley has the most developmental potential out of any heavy (he has really good tools)

-Ness is doing better than "solid" right now but it's the same kind of stuff that happened early in sm4sh where he's good in advantage but really exploitable, and he'll start getting a lot worse like in sm4sh when people learn to exploit him harder

-peach is pretty scary but sword users will keep her in check

-I think Jr. is the worst character in the game at the moment
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voldothegr8
12/14/18 12:17:30 AM
#333:


So the patch claims to help online matchmaking but I don't notice a change.

I guess too many people bitched about the challengers being too hard so they dialed back the difficulty. Wimps.

Here's a list of character fixes so far. Looks like they're just fixing glitches with this patch and no balancing yet.

https://smashboards.com/threads/v1-2-0-patch-notes.465465/
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P4wn4g3
12/14/18 12:27:30 AM
#334:


voldothegr8 posted...
I guess too many people bitched about the challengers being too hard so they dialed back the difficulty. Wimps.

They don't seem easier. Im not sure that's what they did.

Nevermind, Challengers Approach is a lot easier, the original battles seem harder though.
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ThePrinceFish
12/14/18 1:20:51 AM
#335:


Goddamn I love skewering people with Corrin's side-b.
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Banjo2553
12/14/18 1:34:08 AM
#336:


Zero_Destroyer posted...
W9GINuS

early roster impressions (unordered within tiers, maybe missing a few in solid, like half the cast wasn't even ranked because this is about gauging "the best" early)

-this might be the first game since 64 where Yoshi is a high tier contender

-Pichu's actually good lol why

-Most Sm4sh high/top tiers are still good after tweaks

-Roy/Chrom really do appear to be good, but I expect "corrections" to happen and for them to eventually drop pretty rapidly

-Best heavy is either DK or Rool. Ridley has the most developmental potential out of any heavy (he has really good tools)

-Ness is doing better than "solid" right now but it's the same kind of stuff that happened early in sm4sh where he's good in advantage but really exploitable, and he'll start getting a lot worse like in sm4sh when people learn to exploit him harder

-peach is pretty scary but sword users will keep her in check

-I think Jr. is the worst character in the game at the moment

K. Rool should definitely be in "the best" category. He seems to not only be the best heavy, his kit is honestly ridiculous. He's not broken but he's damn good.
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voldothegr8
12/14/18 6:31:39 AM
#337:


Banjo2553 posted...
Zero_Destroyer posted...
W9GINuS

early roster impressions (unordered within tiers, maybe missing a few in solid, like half the cast wasn't even ranked because this is about gauging "the best" early)

-this might be the first game since 64 where Yoshi is a high tier contender

-Pichu's actually good lol why

-Most Sm4sh high/top tiers are still good after tweaks

-Roy/Chrom really do appear to be good, but I expect "corrections" to happen and for them to eventually drop pretty rapidly

-Best heavy is either DK or Rool. Ridley has the most developmental potential out of any heavy (he has really good tools)

-Ness is doing better than "solid" right now but it's the same kind of stuff that happened early in sm4sh where he's good in advantage but really exploitable, and he'll start getting a lot worse like in sm4sh when people learn to exploit him harder

-peach is pretty scary but sword users will keep her in check

-I think Jr. is the worst character in the game at the moment

K. Rool should definitely be in "the best" category. He seems to not only be the best heavy, his kit is honestly ridiculous. He's not broken but he's damn good.

For real. Top tier recovery, two projectiles, two bury moves, multiple spikes, and a counter. Not to mention super armor out the ass.

His only downsides are his gold plate can break resulting in a shield break and he's a heavy so more area to hit, but all heavys deal with that.
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wackyteen
12/14/18 7:09:00 AM
#338:


idk what the fuck just happened

but I Up Bd a Smash Ball with Link

and I exploded and died

straight up
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Irony
12/14/18 7:13:07 AM
#339:


Disappointed the CPU doesn't do stuff like taunt or stay dry in the Warioware stage.
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Panthera
12/14/18 7:13:14 AM
#340:


Banjo2553 posted...
I just decided to try Bowser yesterday and holy shit he's fast. He was buffed a lot in Smash 4 but still relatively slow, here he's as fast as any other character and that's scary.


His aerial side B is an absolute terror now, used to be if he jumped you could just hold shield and not care much about anything but a YOLO down B, but his air side B got buffed from something like 15 frame start up to 6 frame start up, so shield is dubious at best against his air game when he can just yoink you out of it in a flash
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TwoDoorPunkCab
12/14/18 7:18:42 AM
#341:


wackyteen posted...
idk what the fuck just happened

but I Up Bd a Smash Ball with Link

and I exploded and died

straight up


there's fake smash balls now that explode when hit.
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MacadamianNut3
12/14/18 8:41:17 AM
#342:


I'm kinda mad that Sheik is unusable "right now". Quotes because I'm not sure if her playstyle here is the same as in Smash 4.

Well maybe not unusable, but she hits like a senior citizen with atrophied limbs. Forward air is gone. Neutral air is rip. Using her shows just how much I played Melee and to a certain extent Brawl, but I have only played Smash 4 when I visited my old friends twice a year during home trips

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Alpha218
12/14/18 8:50:12 AM
#343:


Phantom_Nook posted...
With Palutena, I have all the characters.

Speaking of which, what's this I hear about her being better in this game?

In Smash 4 she felt like an unfinished character in multiple ways.

- She was the only character besides Miis to start with all of her custom moves unlocked from the star. Its clear that a focus of the character was swapping these out... most of them were trash.

- Her default customs werent that great too. Warp and Auto-Reticle (the two that carried over into Ultimate) were alright. Her side-b was a reflect which was useless in non-projectile matches. Her down-b was a counter that did almost nothing in retalitiation. Some of her customs were really good but 99% of tourneys banned customs.

- Overall her frame data sucked ass. She was slow as hell and some moves just werent good for anything.

In Ultimate, shes loads faster in every respect, has Explosive Flame (previously a custom) as her side special (it has a really strong sweet spot), and her counter got buffed up and combined with the reflect (the only other dual counter/reflect in the game besides K Rool).
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voldothegr8
12/14/18 10:15:31 AM
#344:


Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier
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Blbmbr666
12/14/18 10:17:35 AM
#345:


voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier

Cool, thanks for posting the comparison.

I hugely disagree with Zero's thoughts on Falco. I can't play him for shit in Ultimate since my Melee brain tries to take over, but it's obvious he's hella good. Otherwise not surprised by too much I guess.
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P4wn4g3
12/14/18 10:30:05 AM
#346:


voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier

Why is the top listing characters twice? Corrin and Wii Fit trainer, for starters. Richter as well.
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Blbmbr666
12/14/18 10:32:57 AM
#347:


P4wn4g3 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier

Why is the top listing characters twice? Corrin and Wii Fit trainer, for starters. Richter as well.

The tier list generator probably makes male and female tabs for Corrin and WFT. Also looks like Leff was memeing and saying Male Corrin is high tier but Female Corrin is mid lmao. Pretty sure they have exact same movesets.

Richter and Simon are technically different characters, despite being echo fighters.
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P4wn4g3
12/14/18 10:35:12 AM
#348:


Blbmbr666 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier

Why is the top listing characters twice? Corrin and Wii Fit trainer, for starters. Richter as well.

The tier list generator probably makes male and female tabs for Corrin and WFT. Also looks like Leff was memeing and saying Male Corrin is high tier but Female Corrin is mid lmao. Pretty sure they have exact same movesets.

Richter and Simon are technically different characters, despite being echo fighters.

ah so its just not very reliable.
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voldothegr8
12/14/18 10:38:51 AM
#349:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Blbmbr666 posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier

Why is the top listing characters twice? Corrin and Wii Fit trainer, for starters. Richter as well.

The tier list generator probably makes male and female tabs for Corrin and WFT. Also looks like Leff was memeing and saying Male Corrin is high tier but Female Corrin is mid lmao. Pretty sure they have exact same movesets.

Richter and Simon are technically different characters, despite being echo fighters.

ah so its just not very reliable.

It's still really early and tiers won't start to be settled upon for months. It's just neat to see what two of the worlds best players agree or disagree upon so far.
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Irony
12/14/18 10:40:03 AM
#350:


Pichu being top is a joke
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