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Lobomoon 12/05/18 5:02:46 PM #1: |
So in the comics when Darth Vader trying to get his Lightsaber he was defeated in one on one combat with a Jedi but later he won by threatening innocent people. Is the Dark side weaker than the Light side and requires tricks to win?
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EclairReturns 12/05/18 5:04:19 PM #2: |
Didn't
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OhhhJa 12/05/18 5:10:56 PM #3: |
I think its stated that the dark side os stronger if I remember correctly. For one, they dont have to abide by silly morality
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DrCidd 12/05/18 5:11:41 PM #4: |
Doesn't matter, Grey Jedi get the best of both worlds. Learn your Star Wars Lore folks.
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Lobomoon 12/05/18 5:15:32 PM #5: |
Palpatine associated Light side with being weak - doesn't mean he was right.
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LinkPizza 12/05/18 5:21:47 PM #6: |
Lobomoon posted...
Palpatine associated Light side with being weak - doesn't mean he was right. Doesnt make him wrong, either, though... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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aHappySacka 12/05/18 8:26:42 PM #7: |
If we go by movies, every darkside user eventually becomes grossly arrogant, and overconfident and loses because of it with the exception of Dooku who just flat out loses.
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Ogurisama 12/05/18 9:09:13 PM #9: |
Gray Jedi are the strongest, as they use both light and dark
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aHappySacka 12/05/18 9:27:54 PM #10: |
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Isn't that literally what led to the fall of the Jedi by Palpatine? This is what Luke touches on in The Last Jedi. The Disney Star Wars trilogy is non-canon. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. https://media.giphy.com/media/w9anbv8X6xovjNwIub/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JOExHIGASHI 12/05/18 9:32:53 PM #11: |
Light
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VeeVees 12/05/18 9:49:59 PM #12: |
The user can be strong or weak. The force is the force.
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Mead 12/05/18 9:54:12 PM #13: |
Porgs
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EclairReturns 12/05/18 10:50:20 PM #14: |
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Yellow 12/06/18 12:57:24 AM #16: |
How many Jedi do you see in "The Last Jedi" and "Return of the Jedi"?
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ParanoidObsessive 12/06/18 1:56:18 AM #17: |
Lobomoon posted...
Palpatine associated Light side with being weak - doesn't mean he was right. Yoda says the Dark Side isn't stronger, just easier and faster. But he isn't necessarily right, either. Arguably, the only time we really see them directly matched against each other in any way, Luke gets his ass handed to him while he tries to stay Light Side, only starts to win when he embraces the Dark Side, and then pretty much wins via fluke that would only work in that precise and unique situation by refusing to give in to the Light Side. So apparently the Dark Side is stronger than the Light Side, but nepotism is stronger than either. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lobomoon 12/06/18 7:20:05 PM #18: |
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Oops_All_Berrys 12/06/18 7:23:38 PM #19: |
I feel like the average Jedi is weaker than the average sith but the greatest Jedi heroes are stronger than the greatest sith, if that makes sense. Basically Jedi have a higher potential but take much more work to reach it
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wolfy42 12/06/18 7:28:29 PM #20: |
From my experience playing jedi in many games, and being the highest member of a jedi in a guild on a mud at one point (mud is like an MMO), darkside is generally stronger/more powerful. Light side is generally more defensive, and can actually be easier to start out as (primarily due to more defensive abilities).
It should be mentioned that in many video games and mmo's, power is gained by slaying enemies, this holds true for both light and dark jedi. The primary difference here is that dark jedi usually have more offensive power, which in such games gives them the ability to gain experience or power even faster and out level a light jedi. Meanwhile vs very hard fights, the light jedi usually shines as pure offense isn't enough quite often. Neither side is more powerful in and of itself, but they shine in different ways, and even looking at it in a game perspective, you can see that dark jedi would gain power faster. Light jedi, arguable, have more potential (since they will get high damage eventually and MUCH higher defenses). It varies from game to game of course and games don't translate into a universe that well, but I would say in general dark jedi have more ranged offensive abilities and higher damage over all (about 20%). Meanwhile Light jedi have a large boost to defensive abilities right from the start (almost 50%), and don't damage themselves or wear themselves out nearly as fast as a dark jedi (sustainable offense, while many dark jedi drain themselves using force lightning etc). If your going pure....dark or light....in most of the campaigns game, I have pretty much always found the dark options more fun as well. Light can be fun, but there are too many jerks that you have to treat nicely if your pure, paladin sindrome, grey of course is the best option but they are rare and not supported in alot of games --- "did you steal my f***in signature" Helly ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rogerskg1979 12/06/18 8:12:01 PM #21: |
JOExHIGASHI posted...
Light Luke beats Vader by turning to the dark side. Vader was literally teasing Luke about his sister, and Luke gets angry, and the anger fueled him as he briefly turned to the dark side and overpowered Vader. Notice when Luke cuts off Vader's hand and sees the cyborg parts, Luke then looks at his own cyborg hand and realizes that he is becoming just like his father, turning to the dark side. Vader beat Palpatine because it was a blind side, pure and simple. Palpatine was not expecting Vader to turn against him. Luke even foreshadows this at the beginning of the throne room battle when he tells Palpatine that overconfidence will be his downfall. Palpatine controlled Vader for 20+ years and never thought Vader would ever turn against him like that. Palpatine thought Vader was his personal puppet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EclairReturns 12/08/18 1:07:50 AM #22: |
Come to think of it, did Palpatine ever even train Vader or teach him anything new in the sixteen years since becoming his apprentice?
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Zareth 12/08/18 1:43:34 AM #23: |
Why not both? Kyle Katarn knew where it was at.
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TallTamryu 12/08/18 2:29:23 AM #24: |
That evil guy from KOTOR 2 could suck the life out of an entire planet from many many miles away....
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ParanoidObsessive 12/08/18 9:06:19 AM #25: |
TallTamryu posted...
That evil guy from KOTOR 2 could suck the life out of an entire planet from many many miles away.... He didn't do it on purpose, though. He was more a barely self-aware walking wound in the Force than he was someone actively using the Dark Side to achieve his goals. It's sort of implied both Nihilus and Sion welcome death when you kill them, because neither of them are strictly in control of their nature. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fierce_Deity_08 12/08/18 11:08:22 AM #26: |
The Dark Side guys look cooler even if they aren't more powerful. The Light Side guys are boring. Besides... the Dark Side has cookies and probably also pizza.
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WarGreymon77 12/08/18 6:54:05 PM #27: |
I think RotS proved that the dark side is stronger. Dude easily wiped the floor with several Masters (Jedi Council members even) even though he was outnumbered.
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darcandkharg31 12/08/18 6:59:26 PM #28: |
It's all make believe anyways, it's like asking who's stronger? Super-Man or Ant-Man, it can't be proven!
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grimetime27 12/08/18 7:16:17 PM #29: |
Dark side is easier and quicker. Light side is slower and steady.
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SunWuKung420 12/08/18 7:26:28 PM #30: |
Light side since wanting existence to continue is more positive than desiring its end.
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ParanoidObsessive 12/09/18 8:52:33 AM #31: |
darcandkharg31 posted...
It's all make believe anyways, it's like asking who's stronger? Super-Man or Ant-Man, it can't be proven! Superman is objectively stronger. That's not necessarily the same as "Who would win in a fight?", but both have numerical values attached to their strength levels, so we can easily compare them. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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