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benjamin3740 12/06/18 7:41:54 PM #402: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Lynch me then ben lose town the game oh wait you're probably scum and would win the game right? Are you calling me town here? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:42:14 PM #403: |
benjamin3740 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...What makes you look scummy is wanting to lynch the chance pend is town over a guaranteed 100% scum in bat. Can you explain how a self vote is town like? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 7:45:47 PM #404: |
Doesnt Miller always come back inconclusive? My PM didnt actually exsplain what it does if I knew it was a waste of a role I would have just claimed day 1
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 7:46:24 PM #405: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...TheSultanOfSlam posted...What makes you look scummy is wanting to lynch the chance pend is town over a guaranteed 100% scum in bat. Being frustrated to prove a point I wanted to kill myself to prove a point as town in music mafia beacuse I was so frustrated --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:46:25 PM #406: |
geno
The claim geno's claim is worrying on all sorts of levels. The particular way his role is structured, Newcomer Veteran, only works with Ridley (arguably Daisy/Chrom/Dark Samus, but the point still stands), even though flavor is randomized. Additionally, there's no flavor cop, so there's no reason for a Town-aligned Miller to have Ridley, a newcomer, as its flavor. Finally, the Drunk stuff is just weird. "You're Newcomer Veteran with a newcomer flavor and are aligned with Town, but you scan Town and don't know what your actual role is until Night 2, when we reveal you actually scan scum from here on out." Like, that's just convoluted. The play Honestly, I haven't played with geno recently enough to be good enough to tell between his Town and scum play. All I know is that he sometimes makes really stupid mistakes as both alignments, so unless he says something literally damning him as scum, that's not gonna be a tell. Sultan The claim The best play for Miller is usually to claim in the first post of the game. Instead, Sultan waits until Day 4, after everyone else in the game except for Terra has claimed and a wild card Cop has been known since Day 2. If he's scum, a Miller claim is lazy, and if he's Town, waiting this long is stupid. The play There are two main things I've noticed from Sultan's play this game. First, he's aggressive. He's not afraid to attack people he disagrees with, even getting into a fight with Chris (Chris!) on Day 1. Second, he sticks to his arguments. Rather than expand upon them or respond to people who try to counter them, he just repeats the same things over and over until they stick. I'm not familiar with Sultan's play, but I know he's new, so I'd like someone with more experience with him to tell me if that's bad or scummy. Overall, while I've liked Sultan's play a lot less, geno's claim is too much for me to overlook. Just... why would that role exist, especially in a game with randomized flavors? I think he just slipped when he said Town wasn't Veterans, and has poorly tried to patch together his role since then. ##Vote: geno --- whoops I didn't mean to post that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 7:46:31 PM #407: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...TheSultanOfSlam posted...What makes you look scummy is wanting to lynch the chance pend is town over a guaranteed 100% scum in bat. Frustration. He wants to prove himself town through his death because he can't think of any way to do it and deal with people falsely accusing him. Corrik has done, MI has done it, Scare has done it. We've all done it. As town --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hombad46 12/06/18 7:46:49 PM #408: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
My PM didnt actually exsplain what it does Scum. --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 7:47:25 PM #409: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Doesnt Miller always come back inconclusive? My PM didnt actually exsplain what it does if I knew it was a waste of a role I would have just claimed day 1 Are you untargetable? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lolo_Guru 12/06/18 7:48:56 PM #410: |
benjamin3740 posted...
Lolo_Guru posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim. For red, I'm not talking about end of day. I'm talking mid-day. When Red's got like seven votes. eaedwards6400 posted... Votals as of Post 311: You specifically made this post. benjamin3740 posted... So who's confident enough in a scum read to start a counter lynch? You wanted it to shift from red. --- Lolo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 12/06/18 7:49:33 PM #411: |
I have no idea whats going on anymore.
Though to Doop: I think theres been far too many coincidences to call flavor random anymore. --- SmashBurb is a generic anime swordsman. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:50:10 PM #412: |
God, surely there weren't two scum on the team that decided to claim Miller? Sultan is digging himself a real deep hole right now.
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:51:04 PM #413: |
Doopliss_Power posted...
geno I think you'll find quite frankly I'm a wild card by proxy... --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 12/06/18 7:51:09 PM #414: |
Why the fuck did Sultan claim at all?
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:52:26 PM #415: |
Hbthebattle posted...
I have no idea whats going on anymore. If Shonen's scum then you're the only actual coincidence. Mewtwo's Disable makes way more sense as RB than Fox' Reflector, and Simon makes more sense as Jack than Incineroar. Nevertheless, there are other problems I have with geno's claim, and Sultan's play is so awful I'm considering switching to him anyway. --- whoops I didn't mean to post that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:52:48 PM #416: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Why the fuck did Sultan claim at all? I guess to not make me scan him...? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pendragon71037 12/06/18 7:52:59 PM #417: |
Man, my freaking allergies are back and I can't even think anymore.
Guys, while I agree that it's absolutely weird (and furthermore, really terrible logic) on sultan's part, let's remember that he's new, and probably doesn't know the meta around here- such as, all millers claim D1 (preferably in their first post). --- Welcome to my church: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly_qKAbBjCQ Sometimes I miss the days when I was nostalgic... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:53:11 PM #418: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Why the fuck did Sultan claim at all? Millers should generally, if not always, claim as soon as possible. --- whoops I didn't mean to post that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 7:53:21 PM #419: |
Obviously I have no idea what my role does and I've been in pain trying to be helpful instead of subbing our like I should have. A replacement would have came in and claimed this stupid Miller role that apparently is pointless and not what I thought it was anyways.
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:54:07 PM #420: |
No one here thinks both Sultan and geno are Town, right?
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 7:54:17 PM #421: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
Hbthebattle posted...Why the fuck did Sultan claim at all? I didnt want you to waste your claim yes --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lolo_Guru 12/06/18 7:54:42 PM #422: |
Sultan, be clear, go to your role PM, tell us the whole line for what you are, and tell us your flavor.
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:55:00 PM #423: |
Sultan, how did you not know what your role did?
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hombad46 12/06/18 7:55:09 PM #424: |
Sultan this is a serious question and not at all meant as an insult: are you on pain meds that affect your thought processes right now?
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:55:30 PM #425: |
Doopliss_Power posted...
No one here thinks both Sultan and geno are Town, right? No... Saul was fine for me on day 3 and geno has been neutral to me all the time --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 7:55:48 PM #426: |
Lolo_Guru posted...
benjamin3740 posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim. Hell no! Dang it I wish I could prove it, but that was 100% not my desire to move to anyone but Red. I made the post to get other people's responses and thoughts on that subject. I was stunned by EVERYONE agreeing that Red was scum, so wanted to see if anyone else would stick their neck out for Red. That way depending on his flip i could have a read on someone's attempt to push a non-Red, as nothing was happening at the time. As I recall, it didn't get any huge responses, and I mostly forgot I put out that comment. Tl;dr, it was a poking around/bait comment --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:55:59 PM #427: |
Lolo_Guru posted...
Sultan, be clear, go to your role PM, tell us the whole line for what you are, and tell us your flavor. To clarify, do not copy/paste anything, just tell us your character and the entire title of your role. Don't go getting modkilled. --- whoops I didn't mean to post that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:56:19 PM #428: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...Hbthebattle posted...Why the fuck did Sultan claim at all? Waste my scan* fixed --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:57:23 PM #429: |
benjamin3740 posted...
Lolo_Guru posted...benjamin3740 posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim. Yet chris made a bait lynch and that got more sway --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 12/06/18 7:57:35 PM #430: |
Ok I have to go right now
Ill be back at 6:30 --- SmashBurb is a generic anime swordsman. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doopliss_Power 12/06/18 7:57:37 PM #431: |
Sultan, why didn't it raise any red flags for you when geno claimed Miller?
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 7:58:13 PM #432: |
Doopliss_Power posted...
No one here thinks both Sultan and geno are Town, right? *looks at my town list* Hmmm.... err, awkwaard --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hombad46 12/06/18 7:58:19 PM #433: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Ok I have to go right now That's nice, but the day will be over by then --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:58:44 PM #434: |
Doopliss_Power posted...
Sultan, why didn't it raise any red flags for you when geno claimed Miller? Why didn't Saul instant counter claim that if geno was a miller? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 7:59:35 PM #435: |
You're Miller Veteran Pokemon trainer part of you is coming back to smash therefore you are not a newcomer and are in fact a veteran win when all threats to town are eliminated
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 7:59:38 PM #436: |
Serious question, @benjamin3740 can there be multiple millers in a game?
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 8:00:13 PM #437: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...Lolo_Guru posted...benjamin3740 posted...Lolo_Guru posted...Lolo_Guru What? That was not a bait lynch. Chris thought he was scum. I thought there was a good chance of it too --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 8:01:00 PM #438: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
Doopliss_Power posted...Sultan, why didn't it raise any red flags for you when geno claimed Miller? You cant have 2 millers? I thought I saw 2 millers before in a different game --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 8:01:27 PM #439: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
Serious question, @benjamin3740 can there be multiple millers in a game? There can be anything the host desires. It can and has happened before SULTAN, you're not named after a move? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 8:02:20 PM #440: |
benjamin3740 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...Serious question, @benjamin3740 can there be multiple millers in a game? Alright then I'll keep that in mind tomorrow --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 12/06/18 8:02:38 PM #441: |
benjamin3740 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...Serious question, @benjamin3740 can there be multiple millers in a game? You're going to say I'm scum but no no I was not --- When I steal the show, YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 8:02:56 PM #442: |
Once there was a game with 5 millers, replacing vanillas, and an insane cop.
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 8:03:00 PM #443: |
Lynching an inactive < lynching scum
Ben --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 8:03:53 PM #444: |
benjamin3740 posted...
Once there was a game with 5 millers, replacing vanillas, and an insane cop. Who was the crazy cop? --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 12/06/18 8:04:24 PM #445: |
Someone else is able to make a new topic just tag me.
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hombad46 12/06/18 8:04:45 PM #446: |
eaedwards6400 posted...
Someone else is able to make a new topic just tag me. Oh hey while you're here, day ends in 2 hours right? @eaedwards6400 --- "That's Engarde hairflip metal detector tier btw" -XIII_rocks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 8:04:56 PM #447: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
Lynching an inactive < lynching scum You got the symbol mixed up. I did not know Scare or Red''s alignment day 1. I have never been known as a great scum reader in the first place --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirate_Harris 12/06/18 8:05:08 PM #448: |
hombad46 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...Someone else is able to make a new topic just tag me. On It --- Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter. Currently into: Fallout New Vegas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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benjamin3740 12/06/18 8:06:04 PM #449: |
Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...Once there was a game with 5 millers, replacing vanillas, and an insane cop. I do not remember. That was a long time ago o___o --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lolo_Guru 12/06/18 8:08:24 PM #450: |
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
You're Miller Veteran Pokemon trainer part of you is coming back to smash therefore you are not a newcomer and are in fact a veteran win when all threats to town are eliminated If legit does this mean anything for Hbattle/Pichu? they're both returning after an absence. --- Lolo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eaedwards6400 12/06/18 8:08:36 PM #451: |
11PM EST yez
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