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Lolo_Guru posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well then scan ben.

Beacuse I am also Miller I am Pokeman Trainer

wut

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By voted I mean trird to lynch at end of day
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Why hold back a miller claim until day fucking four, Sultan?

This is worse than my cop claim
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

I honestly dont know what to make of Geno, four days in.

Yeah me too... I might just scan him...

No. He claimed miler. We know he scans guilty no matter what
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benjamin3740 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben is guaranteed to be around tomorrow (because he's scum)

But really, come on, guys. Lynch him with me. Or tell me why you think he's town.

Honestly the only town thing I thought ben was strongly town was his sheeping of Chris and chris being town

A scum ben will definitely sheep a town Chris.

Show me proof. Last time I was scum, AND THE ONLY TIME I WAS SCUM IN A CHRIS GAME, I voted chris day 1 even though it made me look like crap

I don't have to.

You will definitely sheep a town chris BECAUSE you're trying to emulate your town play. But it's fake. It's all fake.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Should I scan Hom, Hbattle, Saul, ben, bat (if he lives) and pend (if he lives?

In my opinion:

Bat or Pend, whichever doesnt get lynched.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pens trap is really fucking obvious dude, dont encourage the doc to be even more fucked than he was after Ben.

Well if it is terra he is gonna die anyway beacuse of ben. So might as well claim now you're dead anyways.. i dont believe that terra is doc sooo... you know it's a lose lose

BECAUSE OF BEN? explain please
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I was going to claim anyways but that's who he was between then made him process of elimination so to leads down to ben beacuse I am Miller and I waited beacuse I wasnt sure if there was a scum scanner as well it could have thrown scum off
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benjamin3740 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pens trap is really fucking obvious dude, dont encourage the doc to be even more fucked than he was after Ben.

Well if it is terra he is gonna die anyway beacuse of ben. So might as well claim now you're dead anyways.. i dont believe that terra is doc sooo... you know it's a lose lose

BECAUSE OF BEN? explain please

You're the one saying terra is doc you outted the doc unless you lied and pend really is the doc..
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Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Should I scan Hom, Hbattle, Saul, ben, bat (if he lives) and pend (if he lives?

In my opinion:

Bat or Pend, whichever doesnt get lynched.

Are you sure?
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Lolo_Guru posted...

hombad46 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

hombad46 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben is guaranteed to be around tomorrow (because he's scum)

But really, come on, guys. Lynch him with me. Or tell me why you think he's town.

I dont think hes town, I just think Shonen is the important target at the moment. Apologies to Han, but Im actually starting to come around to the idea that you might be town. I dont know why scum would try to start an all new wagon like this so late in the day. Unless both major options are scum I guess

All new?

Did you miss my content d3 or something?

I mean youre the first vote on it, and currently only IIRC

Well, yes, I didn't vote for Ben day 3. Scum was guaranteed with scare after all.

But Ben needs to explain himself.

Alright, what do I need to explain? You said my read on scare can't be trusted if I'm town. That's wrong. I ended on Scare, and was I believe the most vocal person urging others to vote Scare. Yes I was unsure who to believe for awhile, but it was because Scare has literally never played like that as scum before. I can only understand it by thinking Han's theory was true that he just wanted out of this game so he could focus on the hyrda one
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Should I scan Hom, Hbattle, Saul, ben, bat (if he lives) and pend (if he lives?

In my opinion:

Bat or Pend, whichever doesnt get lynched.

Are you sure?

Yes.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Should I scan Hom, Hbattle, Saul, ben, bat (if he lives) and pend (if he lives?

In my opinion:

Bat or Pend, whichever doesnt get lynched.

Are you sure?

Well i agree beacuse if pend is night killed that means he is doc and terra isnt so terra wouldn't be soo it still wouldn't be a waste
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Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Should I scan Hom, Hbattle, Saul, ben, bat (if he lives) and pend (if he lives?

In my opinion:

Bat or Pend, whichever doesnt get lynched.

Are you sure?

Yes.

Good.. just making sure
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Pendragon71037 posted...

For the record, Lolo, you're bringing up some good points, and I've been growing less sure of my read on Ben. It was already not my strongest- in fact, he was an honorary scum.

Oh gooD I have confirmed scum gunning for me, I feel better now
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Notice lolo puts some pressure in ben and ben runs away..

Coincidence or...

I've been busy. And again, game awards at 7:30. I will be busy again
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We're going to lynch someone other than Pen or Terra today, preferably Shonen, and then lynch whichever isn't killed overnight (alternatively, Terra isn't actually Doctor and Pen is just Town).

Neither Sultan nor geno should be scanned.

Obviously, neither Pen nor Terra should be scanned either.

That leaves ben, Hombad, HB, Lolo, and Shonen.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Pendragon71037 posted...

For the record, Lolo, you're bringing up some good points, and I've been growing less sure of my read on Ben. It was already not my strongest- in fact, he was an honorary scum.

Oh gooD I have confirmed scum gunning for me, I feel better now

How is he confirmed scum what you are saying that makes him confirmed scum didnt actually happen! TERRA DIDNT COUNTER CLAIM ben what am I missing here?

Please tell me what I'm missing where is the counter claim qoute it or something other then just saying it beacuse IT DIDNT HAPPEN!
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Come on ben.

You can't ignore me.

Lolo_Guru posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim.

Ben, you are scum with scare because, quite frankly, if you're not, nobody can ever trust your word when it comes to scare ever again, as someone who read him well enough in Monster Mafia to fakeclaim masons with him.

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Lolo_Guru posted...

hombad46 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

hombad46 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

hombad46 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben is guaranteed to be around tomorrow (because he's scum)

But really, come on, guys. Lynch him with me. Or tell me why you think he's town.

I dont think hes town, I just think Shonen is the important target at the moment. Apologies to Han, but Im actually starting to come around to the idea that you might be town. I dont know why scum would try to start an all new wagon like this so late in the day. Unless both major options are scum I guess

All new?

Did you miss my content d3 or something?

I mean youre the first vote on it, and currently only IIRC

Well, yes, I didn't vote for Ben day 3. Scum was guaranteed with scare after all.

But Ben needs to explain himself.

What I was trying to say is why wait until so late in the day phase to do this? Your vote started on FD then went to Pen and then Ben. If you had your sights on Ben why not start with him?

Frankly, if I'd had the day off work I'd have been talking about it from the moment I got up. FD had to explain himself like he promised. The vanilla flavor thing was enough to consider it. But then, again, last night. I said it right there. He seemed sure we'd all have the same or very similar flavor.

It's not anything I've ever thought when I've received a vanilla pm. Not even this game. A host who does not provide a vanilla pm example to scum is frankly a bad host, and again, he seemed sure they'd be that way.

If scum got a vanilla PM, Pendragon wouldn't have freakin gotten it wrong >_____>

Let's lynch pen. He flips scum. I'm confirmed town. The end
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Also a scum ben would 1 for 1 with a doc
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well then scan ben.

Beacuse I am also Miller I am Pokeman Trainer

Uhhh. Sultan is scum I guess
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Of the five viable scan options, I'm very confident in HB and Hombad as Town, so Pirate should scan either ben, Lolo, or Shonen (if he lasts the day).

Now to figure out which Miller claim I want to lynch more.
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Lolo_Guru posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben is guaranteed to be around tomorrow (because he's scum)

But really, come on, guys. Lynch him with me. Or tell me why you think he's town.

Honestly the only town thing I thought ben was strongly town was his sheeping of Chris and chris being town

A scum ben will definitely sheep a town Chris.

Show me proof. Last time I was scum, AND THE ONLY TIME I WAS SCUM IN A CHRIS GAME, I voted chris day 1 even though it made me look like crap

I don't have to.

You will definitely sheep a town chris BECAUSE you're trying to emulate your town play. But it's fake. It's all fake.

Tell it to your diary
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Pens trap is really fucking obvious dude, dont encourage the doc to be even more fucked than he was after Ben.

Well if it is terra he is gonna die anyway beacuse of ben. So might as well claim now you're dead anyways.. i dont believe that terra is doc sooo... you know it's a lose lose

BECAUSE OF BEN? explain please

You're the one saying terra is doc you outted the doc unless you lied and pend really is the doc..

So my word is gospel?

Excellent. Vote Pen
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That leaves ben, Hombad, HB, Lolo, and Shonen.

Of these I prefer Lolo. Hes he the one Im least sure about right now. After him Battle for being the one to give Pirate the original scan list despite not being scanned himself.
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By the way ben, Pen is a mathematically awful lynch today. Assuming Terra actually counterclaims doc, either Pen or Terra dies tonight unless scum wants to leave the Doctor alive... which isn't going to happen. The other one is scum. Therefore, this lynch resolves itself tomorrow NO MATTER WHAT with NO CHANCE OF ACCIDENTALLY LYNCHING DOC as long as we lynch literally anyone else today. I think it should be either geno or Sultan. In fact, ##Unvote
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Pendragon71037 posted...

For the record, Lolo, you're bringing up some good points, and I've been growing less sure of my read on Ben. It was already not my strongest- in fact, he was an honorary scum.

Oh gooD I have confirmed scum gunning for me, I feel better now

How is he confirmed scum what you are saying that makes him confirmed scum didnt actually happen! TERRA DIDNT COUNTER CLAIM ben what am I missing here?

Please tell me what I'm missing where is the counter claim qoute it or something other then just saying it beacuse IT DIDNT HAPPEN!

Pen clsims he was acting scummy all game intentionally so that scum would not kill him. That's a reasoning that sounds great to a scum focus group, but makes no sense if you're actually town doc. Acting scummy is going to get town to suspect you and force you to claim. It's much better to act as town as possible and play like vanilla. Pen would know that, if he was town doctor
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benjamin3740 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well then scan ben.

Beacuse I am also Miller I am Pokeman Trainer

Uhhh. Sultan is scum I guess

No I dont want our cop to waste his scan you're probably scum
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And not once since coming back has he told us not to lynch him or stressed that he's doctor. He not in the mindset of being the game losing lynch
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also a scum ben would 1 for 1 with a doc

....in this issue of "what a scum Ben would do"

I have never 1 for 1'd in my life. Not even as town, because I've literally never been mislynched before as town.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Of the five viable scan options, I'm very confident in HB and Hombad as Town, so Pirate should scan either ben, Lolo, or Shonen (if he lasts the day).

Now to figure out which Miller claim I want to lynch more.

So terra, hb and Hombad are bad scans, correct?
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Doopliss_Power posted...

as long as we lynch literally anyone else today. I think it should be either geno or Sultan.

Sultan waited to claim until
a. there were only a few hours left in the day phase
and
b. geno had gone to bed so he can't defend himself

I'm almost definitely going to vote him tomorrow, but I think Bat is the way to go today
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim.

Ben, you are scum with scare because, quite frankly, if you're not, nobody can ever trust your word when it comes to scare ever again, as someone who read him well enough in Monster Mafia to fakeclaim masons with him.

Answer for this.
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What makes you look scummy is wanting to lynch the chance pend is town over a guaranteed 100% scum in bat.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Of the five viable scan options, I'm very confident in HB and Hombad as Town, so Pirate should scan either ben, Lolo, or Shonen (if he lasts the day).

Now to figure out which Miller claim I want to lynch more.

So terra, hb and Hombad are bad scans, correct?

Terra and Pen are bad scans because they will either be killed tonight or are scum, so that will resolve itself naturally.

Sultan and geno are bad scans because they are guaranteed to scan scum, either because they're Miller or because they're scum.

I think HB and Hombad are bad scans because, in my opinion, their play alone asserts them Town, and there's no reason for a scan to confirm that.
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You cant have 2 millers? If I was scum dont you think I would have came up with a better fake claim?
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benjamin3740 posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also a scum ben would 1 for 1 with a doc

....in this issue of "what a scum Ben would do"

I have never 1 for 1'd in my life. Not even as town, because I've literally never been mislynched before as town.

Chris got mislynched by town in dance with dragons... what's that saying in America? There's a first time for everything
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Doopliss_Power posted...

By the way ben, Pen is a mathematically awful lynch today. Assuming Terra actually counterclaims doc, either Pen or Terra dies tonight unless scum wants to leave the Doctor alive... which isn't going to happen. The other one is scum. Therefore, this lynch resolves itself tomorrow NO MATTER WHAT with NO CHANCE OF ACCIDENTALLY LYNCHING DOC as long as we lynch literally anyone else today. I think it should be either geno or Sultan. In fact, ##Unvote

You have a point. I'm just. ....extremely confident already that he's scum. Everyine else not seeing it annoys me.

I'm actually considering Sultan. He just attacked me with three different completely fabricated reasonings just now. I think he may have smelled a juicy lynch that Lolo is suggesting. I don't think Lolo is scum.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

You cant have 2 millers? If I was scum dont you think I would have came up with a better fake claim?

Why wouldnt a Miller claim ASAP?
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Sultan, if you're miller, why didn't you claim right away, on day 1?
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Pirate_Harris posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

Of the five viable scan options, I'm very confident in HB and Hombad as Town, so Pirate should scan either ben, Lolo, or Shonen (if he lasts the day).

Now to figure out which Miller claim I want to lynch more.

So terra, hb and Hombad are bad scans, correct?

Terra and Pen are bad scans because they will either be killed tonight or are scum, so that will resolve itself naturally.

Sultan and geno are bad scans because they are guaranteed to scan scum, either because they're Miller or because they're scum.

I think HB and Hombad are bad scans because, in my opinion, their play alone asserts them Town, and there's no reason for a scan to confirm that.

Alrighty then... ben, lolo and shonen (if he lives)
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Lynch me then ben lose town the game oh wait you're probably scum and would win the game right?
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Ben, you are scum with red because of hoping for a second train, any second train, to form without starting it yourself when red was a few votes from being lynched d1; without his claim.

Ben, you are scum with scare because, quite frankly, if you're not, nobody can ever trust your word when it comes to scare ever again, as someone who read him well enough in Monster Mafia to fakeclaim masons with him.

Answer for this.

I answered the scare part a few posts above. I'll talk more in a second after dinner.

I didn't even consider Red in any way at all near the end of day 1. I don't know why, I just don't remember thinking about him. Whatever Chris said sounded good
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benjamin3740 posted...

And not once since coming back has he told us not to lynch him or stressed that he's doctor. He not in the mindset of being the game losing lynch

Stop trying to think you can read my mind. It's come up at least two or three times now.
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Lolo_Guru posted...

Sultan, if you're miller, why didn't you claim right away, on day 1?

Why would I? Scum could have totally wasted a scan on me.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Sultan, if you're miller, why didn't you claim right away, on day 1?

Why would I? Scum could have totally wasted a scan on me.

Why would they, though? Scum already knows you're Town, because you're not with them.
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Like, scum always knows who the other scum are. That's...literally the point of mafia.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lolo_Guru posted...

Sultan, if you're miller, why didn't you claim right away, on day 1?

Why would I? Scum could have totally wasted a scan on me.

Have you never played in a game with a miller before?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

What makes you look scummy is wanting to lynch the chance pend is town over a guaranteed 100% scum in bat.

How is he 100%? Town prosty's can exist too
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