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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 4:21:14 PM
#101:


Oh not geno geno was Ridley hombad though I've been feeling good about hom
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:21:51 PM
#102:


geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

I'm not a bastard... my parents loved me when I was born
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:22:20 PM
#103:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate that list was created in 5 minutes, dont take it as gospel, just as a guide.

(That is not to say scanning me is a good idea. That would be a waste.)

In all seriousness, I'll see How this day ends and I'll make an informed decision on who to scsn


I do not trust you to do this.

Nor do I trust our supposed prostitute.

.

I swear this is baby's first mafia or something with the way these night active have been squandered. And sure I'm at fault too for relying on them, but with the amount of time we've been granted we should be in a much better position.
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:22:23 PM
#104:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Oh not geno geno was Ridley hombad though I've been feeling good about hom

Explain because I'm not following.
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:23:29 PM
#105:


Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

I'm not a bastard... my parents loved me when I was born

This is exactly what I mean, posts like these, posts like "pls ben show me I have half your brain, guys pls give me lists". Like somehow you play dumb and the victim but you are actually not.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 4:23:32 PM
#106:


I asked what we have in geno and terra but I meant hom not geno.

Though I feel better about hom then terra
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benjamin3740
12/05/18 4:23:33 PM
#107:


geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

Pirate was very....very. ....very different than this in his previous scum games. By very I mean VERY. I really do think he's fine
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:24:16 PM
#108:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate that list was created in 5 minutes, dont take it as gospel, just as a guide.

(That is not to say scanning me is a good idea. That would be a waste.)

In all seriousness, I'll see How this day ends and I'll make an informed decision on who to scsn


I do not trust you to do this.

Nor do I trust our supposed prostitute.

.

I swear this is baby's first mafia or something with the way these night active have been squandered. And sure I'm at fault too for relying on them, but with the amount of time we've been granted we should be in a much better position.

Then tell me what to do fd... it's not so hard to assert dominance over me...
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:24:57 PM
#109:


benjamin3740 posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

Pirate was very....very. ....very different than this in his previous scum games. By very I mean VERY. I really do think he's fine

I mean I'll take your word for it but still I'll keep an eye on him.
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Hbthebattle
12/05/18 4:25:22 PM
#110:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Hbthebattle posted...
Pirate that list was created in 5 minutes, dont take it as gospel, just as a guide.

(That is not to say scanning me is a good idea. That would be a waste.)

In all seriousness, I'll see How this day ends and I'll make an informed decision on who to scsn


I do not trust you to do this.

Nor do I trust our supposed prostitute.

.

I swear this is baby's first mafia or something with the way these night active have been squandered. And sure I'm at fault too for relying on them, but with the amount of time we've been granted we should be in a much better position.

FD... like half of us ARE newcomers or inexperienced.
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:26:10 PM
#111:


geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

I'm not a bastard... my parents loved me when I was born

This is exactly what I mean, posts like these, posts like "pls ben show me I have half your brain, guys pls give me lists". Like somehow you play dumb and the victim but you are actually not.

Have you realised that mafia is a game that is supposed to be fun, the way I have fun is joke around lots... do you seriously want the paranoid, sad pirate or a happy, energetic pirate?
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:27:55 PM
#112:


Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Now im the only one talking... what has this game got against active players?

Well to be fair we did catch another scum for free some some people are just coasting.

Yeah but it can't be this easy all the time right... I mean scum isn't that dumb enough to screw up a claim... is it?

It wasn't a dumb move. This time it was a case of trying too hard. Trying to give fake flavor that he assumed he would have. For once it's a real slip!

Ben, where did he slip? I have half the brain you have so show me in pain staking detail and I'll chuck a vote for pend


He claimed vanilla.

He said his flavor (Yoshi) talked about being hungry and such.

But vanilla flavor's just say 'you have no powers'.

Thus the flavor he provided for vanilla was a lie.

.

So unless he is lying because he is town power trying to hide as vanilla, then he is scum.

.

This isn't some kind of next level stuff. This is just the simple fact of what has occurred today.
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benjamin3740
12/05/18 4:27:59 PM
#113:


Pen claimed Yoshi, vanilla. And said "my flavor has to do with me eating a lot". Me and two other claimed vanillas (FD was one, can't remember the other) said it was fake because our characters didn't have flavor at all. We just have "You have no abilities" in the flavor spoto

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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:27:59 PM
#114:


benjamin3740 posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

Pirate was very....very. ....very different than this in his previous scum games. By very I mean VERY. I really do think he's fine

I agree hole heartly with ben here... look at my scum game in monster mafia, tv crossover and compare it to this pirate here
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:28:56 PM
#115:


Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

I'm not a bastard... my parents loved me when I was born

This is exactly what I mean, posts like these, posts like "pls ben show me I have half your brain, guys pls give me lists". Like somehow you play dumb and the victim but you are actually not.

Have you realised that mafia is a game that is supposed to be fun, the way I have fun is joke around lots... do you seriously want the paranoid, sad pirate or a happy, energetic pirate?

I mean, when someone says fun they don't necessarily mean making jokes but whatever, if that's what you want to do go ahead but like I said I'm keeping an eye on you, something about this town doesn't seem right and I have to get to the bottom of it.
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:30:07 PM
#116:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
Now im the only one talking... what has this game got against active players?

Well to be fair we did catch another scum for free some some people are just coasting.

Yeah but it can't be this easy all the time right... I mean scum isn't that dumb enough to screw up a claim... is it?

It wasn't a dumb move. This time it was a case of trying too hard. Trying to give fake flavor that he assumed he would have. For once it's a real slip!

Ben, where did he slip? I have half the brain you have so show me in pain staking detail and I'll chuck a vote for pend


He claimed vanilla.

He said his flavor (Yoshi) talked about being hungry and such.

But vanilla flavor's just say 'you have no powers'.

Thus the flavor he provided for vanilla was a lie.

.

So unless he is lying because he is town power trying to hide as vanilla, then he is scum.

.

This isn't some kind of next level stuff. This is just the simple fact of what has occurred today.

Ok ok... so basically he's either a town power that's claiming vanilla to not reveal their role, or he's scum trying to mask that he is town by having a power
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 4:30:29 PM
#117:


In pens defense it could have been a joke like yum vanilla I'm hungry.

Though it's very possible it's a fake claim and being inexperienced gave it up for him beacuse he probably went off his actual role so he though all roles had a description
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:31:31 PM
#118:


geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?

I'm not a bastard... my parents loved me when I was born

This is exactly what I mean, posts like these, posts like "pls ben show me I have half your brain, guys pls give me lists". Like somehow you play dumb and the victim but you are actually not.

Have you realised that mafia is a game that is supposed to be fun, the way I have fun is joke around lots... do you seriously want the paranoid, sad pirate or a happy, energetic pirate?

I mean, when someone says fun they don't necessarily mean making jokes but whatever, if that's what you want to do go ahead but like I said I'm keeping an eye on you, something about this town doesn't seem right and I have to get to the bottom of it.

Ok... well I'm not stopping you geno...
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:32:58 PM
#119:


Pirate_Harris posted...

Then tell me what to do fd... it's not so hard to assert dominance over me...


Yesterday I told you I possessed the information necessary to clear my name.

You scanned me instead of literally anyone else.

.

It isn't about telling you what to do or holding your hand though. It's about you putting more than just a hunch into how you spend your valuable action.

W/E though. I'm done with power talk.

I'm going to iso the prosty or something.
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:36:13 PM
#120:


benjamin3740 posted...
Pen claimed Yoshi, vanilla. And said "my flavor has to do with me eating a lot". Me and two other claimed vanillas (FD was one, can't remember the other) said it was fake because our characters didn't have flavor at all. We just have "You have no abilities" in the flavor spoto

Vote Pen by the end of the day please, my good man :^]


You do realize there is actually a non zero chance that he's the doctor (if there is one) right?

And we have to consider the idea that scum did a no kill last night and what that might imply.
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:36:13 PM
#121:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Pirate_Harris posted...

Then tell me what to do fd... it's not so hard to assert dominance over me...


Yesterday I told you I possessed the information necessary to clear my name.

You scanned me instead of literally anyone else.

.

It isn't about telling you what to do or holding your hand though. It's about you putting more than just a hunch into how you spend your valuable action.

W/E though. I'm done with power talk.

I'm going to iso the prosty or something.

Well I was manipulated by LoLo into thinking that you had a hidden agenda fd... I'm super sorry for wasting a scan but hey we have two scum today so it's even Stevens...?
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 4:37:58 PM
#122:


Let's pressure terra into a claim I'll claim when terra claim if I need to claim but I'm on most peoples town list and terra is not
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:38:04 PM
#123:


We do not 100% have two scum in hand. This isn't the same as day 3. We have good reason to suspect them both, but complacency will be the death of us.
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:38:07 PM
#124:


Giving me a cop role is like giving a kid a load of sugar and a loaded sub machine gun... it's gonna go terribly
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:40:07 PM
#125:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
We do not 100% have two scum in hand. This isn't the same as day 3. We have good reason to suspect them both, but complacency will be the death of us.

Pend is 100%, Hb is at 60/40.
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:40:13 PM
#126:


Then pretend you are vanilla and hunt for scum. Read the previous days.

Pick someone you suspect and read their old posts.

It helps if you can actually remember what's happened on previous day to give context to what you are reading and to understand if it conflicts with things they have said since.
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:40:33 PM
#127:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
We do not 100% have two scum in hand. This isn't the same as day 3. We have good reason to suspect them both, but complacency will be the death of us.

But we have a tied vote like day 2... shonen nor pend Hasn't done anything to defend either side
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:40:36 PM
#128:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Giving me a cop role is like giving a kid a load of sugar and a loaded sub machine gun... it's gonna go terribly


My previous post was a reply to this one.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 4:40:38 PM
#129:


##vote:Terra

I want to see his claim I think this is our other scum member
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Pirate_Harris
12/05/18 4:41:56 PM
#130:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Then pretend you are vanilla and hunt for scum. Read the previous days.

Pick someone you suspect and read their old posts.

It helps if you can actually remember what's happened on previous day to give context to what you are reading and to understand if it conflicts with things they have said since.

Alright Fd...
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Forceful_Dragon
12/05/18 4:44:09 PM
#131:


geno4smash4 posted...
Pend is 100%, Hb is at 60/40.


Hb?

You mean Shonen?

And Pendragon is not 100%. I'd go as far as 95%. Unless scum was literally formatted differently than town, because we know red was vanilla to compare from.
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geno4smash4
12/05/18 4:47:17 PM
#132:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pend is 100%, Hb is at 60/40.


Hb?

You mean Shonen?

And Pendragon is not 100%. I'd go as far as 95%. Unless scum was literally formatted differently than town, because we know red was vanilla to compare from.

No I mean Hb, like I said my "ability" is not a move Ridley has either, I'm inclined to believe eaed f***ed up and just said Sleep.
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Hbthebattle
12/05/18 4:57:55 PM
#133:


For the record, Geno has never fully explained why he suspects me beyond his claim is weird. I dont know why hes so suddenly fixated on me.
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Terra-enforcer
12/05/18 5:22:44 PM
#134:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
What do you mean the chance of scum Shonen "getting it right"?

Given the context I thought it was clear. I mean "get it right" as in "predict who the true doctor is" assuming he were scum.

benjamin3740 posted...
Why would scum sleep with pirate the same night they're killing him?

Don't even know how I forgot about this. You're right, I was pretty sure before due to the claim, but now Shonen is pretty much confirmed town.
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hombad46
12/05/18 5:32:07 PM
#135:


Pirate_Harris posted...
Now im the only one talking... what has this game got against active players?

Was commuting home from work, catching up now.

Pirate_Harris posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Don't scan HB. He's in THE OFFICIAL BOOK OF CONFIRMED TOWN.

And he's Chris-approved confirmed town at that

Hombad? H battle?


Why is this a thing thats happening now? Should we just start calling him Battle instead?
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hombad46
12/05/18 5:36:05 PM
#136:


geno4smash4 posted...
Something about Pirate isn't sitting right with me, like seriously can scum have a cop? Is that considered bastard?


Why would scum need a cop? They know who is scum and who isnt. I mean I guess that means they can fake a cop in a game without one, but who runs a game without a cop?
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Terra-enforcer
12/05/18 5:42:29 PM
#137:


The people seriously defending Pend are beyond me. Some of the excuses are a bit ridiculous. He was already a high priority lynch pick who hasn't contributed to much, and his role claim just incriminated him further. I'm not voting anyone else and not Shonen of all people.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
##vote:Terra

I want to see his claim I think this is our other scum member

Ouchie that hwurt :(

My guy, even if I were scum I wouldn't have the slightest fear in my mind about you considering Pend basically gave himself up for offering. Already said my role is confirmable, so calm down there. I'm in no rush whatsoever.

And @Pirate_Harris why don't you just choose someone who has been on multiple people's scum lists if you can't decide for yourself? I want to drop names, but I almost feel like the scum team might have a forger. That, or Hb is lying (which goes entirely against my current read of him). I didn't even mention vig before when talking about how stacked we are, and they seemingly lack roleblocker and even a secondary kill, so they have to be packing something. My other thought as a significant buff would be something like an arsonist, but no one has claimed to be doused, and even something like bomb isn't a significant blow against a team this stacked if we're blindly assume everyone is who they claim to be.

Oh yeah, and to the people who pointed out the roleblocker comment, obviously I'm not referring to a simple ass one shot and done roleblocker. I mean a dedicated role since that's something that can consistently deal a blow to us.
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Terra-enforcer
12/05/18 5:46:40 PM
#138:


Hbthebattle posted...
For the record, Geno has never fully explained why he suspects me beyond his claim is weird. I dont know why hes so suddenly fixated on me.

tbf, that is a valid complaint. As I've reiterated upon, our team seems stacked and not every claim is out there yet. If Pend and Lolo both turn out to be scum, my first thought would be to reread the claimed PRs if the game doesn't end there.

Or I might go back to ben \_()_/
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hombad46
12/05/18 6:00:15 PM
#139:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Why would scum sleep with pirate the same night they're killing him?


To sell a lie of some kind?


Not just "of some kind". The scum were clearly wary about the presence of a doctor, since they targeted Death on night 2 instead of Pirate. Still uncertain of it on night 3, they targeted both their kill and their sleep at Pirate, so that either hed die, or theyd have a confirmed town.

Normally Id just think hes town but his behavior last night was that of scum upset that their gambit failed, not a townie who thinks there had to have been a mistake.
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hombad46
12/05/18 6:01:52 PM
#140:


Remember, the scum have Scare on their side, and if scum are still allowed to talk to their scummates after death in their special scum dimension (let's just call it Subspace because Smash), I wouldn't put it past him to give them this idea after his day 2 stunt.
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hombad46
12/05/18 6:02:54 PM
#141:


Actually I guess that's an important point, are scum allowed to talk to their scummates post-mortem in games on this forum?
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 6:31:15 PM
#142:


No one wants to pressure terra with me well okay... terra since you are around who do we go after in your opinion who isnt Pen
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benjamin3740
12/05/18 6:35:39 PM
#143:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
geno4smash4 posted...
Pend is 100%, Hb is at 60/40.


Hb?

You mean Shonen?

And Pendragon is not 100%. I'd go as far as 95%. Unless scum was literally formatted differently than town, because we know red was vanilla to compare from.

It's unlikely red's whole role was posted there. Even more unlikely that Red mentioned he had no flavor, or that Pen would even think to ask.

Again, this is not a dumb play by Pen. He just got trapped
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Terra-enforcer
12/05/18 7:12:59 PM
#144:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
No one wants to pressure terra with me well okay... terra since you are around who do we go after in your opinion who isnt Pen

Not only have I made that pretty clear multiple times throughout day 2 and 3, a mere four posts above this question I pretty clearly restate the next person in my line of sight.
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Terra-enforcer
12/05/18 7:17:35 PM
#145:


hombad46 posted...
Actually I guess that's an important point, are scum allowed to talk to their scummates post-mortem in games on this forum?

Normally they are, yes. But that prospect hardly hinges on Scare communicating with them.

I'll give you that such a conclusion is very logical, but for now I'm choosing to take it at face value, partly for personal reasons. But regardless, if scum has no strongman or ability to overcome a doc or a roleblock, Harris pretty much has free reign. Plus Shonen's actions will catch up to him if he chooses to target according to what would make sense for a scum team to target over what lines up with the reads he vocalizes.
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Lolo_Guru
12/05/18 7:25:40 PM
#146:


Let's elaborate on your "reads" a bit more, Terra.

Do you think there is any chance whatsoever of Ben and I being scum buds (there isn't since I'm town, but let's see your thoughts on the matter)? Why or why not?
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 7:35:42 PM
#147:


My bad terra you did say this
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Pendragon71037
12/05/18 7:43:41 PM
#148:


All right, first off, Im sorry. I waited until after work because I wanted several hours in a row to defend myself further, but turns out Im going to a family dinner so thats not gonna happen, and with one thing and another I wouldnt have that sort of opportunity until tomorrow afternoon. So, sorry, but this is gonna he a post-and-run.

Im not Yoshi, VETERAN Vanilla
As some of you have begun to suspect, Im Yoshi, VETERAN Egg Lay (Doctor).
N1, I tried to protect Chris. I say tried, because SOMEONE decided to roleblock me. Although, looking at Scares flip, it may not have mattered anyway- if I were Scum, I would absolutely strongman him N1. But still.
N2 and N3, I protected Harris. Youre welcome.

If you look back on the previous days, youll see that I didnt really try to defend myself against people who said I was scummy. That was intentional (although, admittedly, them finding me scummy in the first place wasnt). Essentially, my plan was, if Scum thought Town thought I was Scum, theyd leave me alive, and I could continue to protect.

And now, I have to leave again. Sorry.
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TheSultanOfSlam
12/05/18 7:50:41 PM
#149:


Hmm I buy it but I dont why would someone randomly roleblock pen? Night 1?
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Hbthebattle
12/05/18 7:53:35 PM
#150:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Hmm I buy it but I dont why would someone randomly roleblock pen? Night 1?

Death literally said he roleblocked pen

Though I dont buy Pens claim, Ill be posting why later
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