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Kineth 12/05/18 8:00:30 AM #101: |
Not really sure why y'all are dogging this one so hard.
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DarkRoast 12/05/18 8:02:42 AM #102: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
DarkRoast posted...A_Good_Boy posted...DarkRoast posted...Dragonblade01 posted...No one has said what message they think the tree is supposed to send yet. You guys are weird. "Person says reasonable comment" "Man the harpoons!" --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FursonaNonGrata 12/05/18 8:22:29 AM #103: |
FursonaNonGrata posted...
LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? Follow up: Looks like the user received a nkl for posting literal white supremacist memes. GG mod team. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 12/05/18 8:23:08 AM #104: |
FursonaNonGrata posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? That shit should be a usermap axe imo. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoubleDare 12/05/18 8:36:53 AM #105: |
It is unacceptable since most people that eat popeyes, funions and other stuff are regular, non criminals.
Its clearly them making fun of low class people, sadly many police stations seem like fraternities. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FursonaNonGrata 12/05/18 8:39:18 AM #106: |
DarkRoast posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...FursonaNonGrata posted...LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? I was recently warned for posting holy shit at the circle jerk going on ITT but someone can post blatantly racist shit and nothing will happen to them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 12/05/18 8:40:54 AM #107: |
DoubleDare posted...
It is unacceptable since most people that eat popeyes, funions and other stuff are regular, non criminals. The fact that they take joy out of satirizing poor people and equating them with criminals is that part that really irks me. Seriously, the racism and classism that comes out of modern law enforcement is unacceptable and needs to be addressed. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 12/05/18 8:44:05 AM #108: |
FursonaNonGrata posted...
DarkRoast posted...FursonaNonGrata posted...FursonaNonGrata posted...LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? I was modded for calling people "Trump sycophants" despite them exhibiting such qualities. It's wacky --- https://youtu.be/zkNlmYJyFDo?t=80 "Like all fairy tales, Adam. There has to be a Hero, and there has to be a Villain." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 8:46:25 AM #109: |
I was modding for calling the mod staff by the name of one of Hitler's police forces.
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Dyinglegacy 12/05/18 8:54:35 AM #110: |
I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype?
I think there is a stereotype about whites loving mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise, and eat it with no fucks given. Funyuns and whatever that purple bag is? I love funyuns, and have never heard anything about black people and funyuns. People are fuckin' weak. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 50001 losses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 12/05/18 8:56:36 AM #111: |
Feels more like a redneck tree then a racist tree.
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QtPatootie462 12/05/18 8:58:50 AM #112: |
DarkRoast posted...
FursonaNonGrata posted...FursonaNonGrata posted...LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? Santa gonna give you guys salt for Christmas --- It's okay to be cute. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 12/05/18 9:01:58 AM #113: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? I think it depends on where you're from. I was raised in Texas and Oklahoma, where fried chicken is considered just about as generic as hamburgers. Apparently in northern states, it's not exactly a staple food, so it's more likely to be considered an unusual inclusion on a tree like this. Takis are mostly popular in the hispanic and Asian communities where I live. I interpreted that as being more overtly racist. Admittedly it's a tough call, but I definitely think the "poor people are criminals" message rings pretty loudly from that tree. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 9:02:29 AM #114: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? Regardless of your feelings, the chief of police shouldn't be doing that. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 9:03:35 AM #115: |
DarkRoast posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? People generally associate being black with being poor so.. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 12/05/18 9:04:18 AM #116: |
Kineth posted...
Dyinglegacy posted...I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? Totally agree. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoubleDare 12/05/18 9:09:39 AM #117: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? I'm white and love funyuns. Its really messed up the police cheif did this. --- On Your Mark...Get Set........GO!!!!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkAndEpona 12/05/18 9:59:15 AM #118: |
FursonaNonGrata posted... FursonaNonGrata posted...LinkAndEpona posted...Was [stormfront] about dat? Lmao, the fuck was that for? And what makes the word 'racist" count as stormfront? Lul The snowflakism is so stronk! Anyway I try to be but nice but I never miss an opportunity to talk street, sorry Kineth. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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codey 12/05/18 10:03:34 AM #119: |
Dyinglegacy posted...
I don't get it. Are ya'll talking about the popeyes cup and the stereotype of black people liking fried chicken? Everyone loves fried chicken. Shouldn't this be a human stereotype? Yes, everyone loves fried chicken and watermelon, but that doesn't change the fact that there a very specific stereotypes about one race eating them in particular. --- *runs out of topic naked* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 12/05/18 10:08:32 AM #120: |
Full Throttle posted...
The tree was decorated with Newport cigarettes, police crime tape, a can of malt liquor and a Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen cup Pretty discriminating that they didn't mention the Takis. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/05/18 10:09:18 AM #121: |
What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption.
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Kineth 12/05/18 10:13:36 AM #122: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. You're the one centering your focus on the Christmas tree as opposed to the display of stereotypes. It's not hard to understand. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/05/18 10:18:35 AM #123: |
Kineth posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. And you're the one deliberately ignoring a very real part of the display that, quite frankly, makes the entire thing confusing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 12/05/18 10:19:42 AM #124: |
Kineth posted...
Funbazooka posted...The thing with white nationalism is that I agree with the parts in bold here, nor do I see anything controversial about those parts... just not the part about an exclusively white nation because I don't support segregation. To give the benefit of the doubt, I doubt he has any but the vaguest idea of what a white national identity even is. Intergenerationally "white" American families are almost entirely mutts of old euro blood. Pole-Italo-Swede-scandiwhatevers. The only general consistency is a level of melanin that we perceive as white skin, but yall range from red to olive to translucent. I also have to wonder how he feels about identity politics, because there's nothing more idpol, and less relevant to personhood. --- [break the meta] https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 10:21:52 AM #125: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. The tree is a red herring and only a place to display said racist messaging. If all you're gonna do is shoot down the explanations offered to you, stop asking questions. You're clearly not interested in the answers. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/05/18 10:26:24 AM #126: |
Kineth posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. Um, excuse me, I am very much interested in the answer. I haven't once "shot down" an explanation offered me, considering this very post was the first time an actual explanation was even offered. If the tree is actually an entirely meaningless part of this, then fine. But you need to get off your presumptuous high horse. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 10:34:43 AM #127: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. You need to stop needing people to hold your hand. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 12/05/18 10:40:33 AM #128: |
strange to see so many get caught up on but exactly which group is this targeting? rather than operating under the assumption that guy who made stereotype tree obviously may target multiple groups
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 10:43:37 AM #129: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
SaithSayer posted...A_Good_Boy posted...SaithSayer posted... Nah I'm right. A noose by itself isn't inherently racist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/05/18 10:44:40 AM #130: |
Kineth posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...Kineth posted...Dragonblade01 posted...What I still don't understand is where exactly the offense is supposed to be. Like, even assuming it was done with the explicit knowledge of racial stereotypes, what does putting it on a Christmas tree mean? Is it hateful? Is it supposed to be a mockery? If so, how? Because that is so far removed from the idea of decorating a Christmas tree that I don't see how that should be the normal assumption. Well, I'm sorry I don't automatically assume the parts that don't offend me are irrelevant. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/05/18 10:46:28 AM #131: |
SaithSayer posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...SaithSayer posted... What's your intent behind this post? Cause you're ignoring the article and the picture and this entire topic, just to say that there's nothing wrong with a noose despite the fact that the noose isn't residing in a vacuum. Are you trying to make yourself look like a moron? Like, were you giggling super hard to yourself at how stupid you're gonna try making yourself look in a desperate attempt to salvage an argument you gave up on hours ago? I'm just really curious what it is you're still even trying to do here. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 10:50:30 AM #132: |
Wasn't talking about the tree at all in that post. Quote the last part of Chained's post and then what I had said and then it's obviously not about the tree.
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A_Good_Boy 12/05/18 10:52:00 AM #133: |
So you rush in, start talking about nooses and context, while ignoring context yourself?
I'm still curious though, just what is it you're trying to do here? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 10:55:00 AM #134: |
ChainedRedone posted...
Funbazooka posted...If you look at a random assortment of food and beverages and think "only the ____ RACE eats this stuff!" then you might want to step back and take a look at yourself. This is a ridiculous thing to say so I decided to point out that hangings were the normal means of execution for ages so they aren't racist outside of context. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/05/18 10:55:27 AM #135: |
Only racist people see everything as racist.
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prettyprincess 12/05/18 10:56:38 AM #136: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
Well, I'm sorry I don't automatically assume the parts that don't offend me are irrelevant. at best the method of display is irrelevant and at worst there is a more nefarious implication such as that he views his position of power over the referenced groups as a gift/celebratory, but that aspect will likely only ever remain inferred and never stated unless a particularly shocking media blunder takes place --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 12/05/18 10:57:30 AM #137: |
SaithSayer posted...
ChainedRedone posted...Funbazooka posted... A_Good_Boy posted... What's your intent behind this post? Cause you're ignoring the article and the picture and this entire topic, just to say that there's nothing wrong with a noose despite the fact that the noose isn't residing in a vacuum. Guess I'll quote myself again cause apparently you're just not up to snuff on your ability to read. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dragonblade01 12/05/18 11:01:09 AM #138: |
prettyprincess posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...Well, I'm sorry I don't automatically assume the parts that don't offend me are irrelevant. It still seems odd to me, but I appreciate the perspective, and at the very least I can understand the reaction to a display so full of stereotypes regardless of any extra level to it. I've always trained myself to look at all parts of any supposed message so as not to get caught up on any single component, so I'm sorry if my questions about this came across as insensitive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 11:07:33 AM #139: |
My intent was to point out that the noose has been used to kill every race and white people have been killed the most with it. What do you think minority means?
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Lorenzo_2003 12/05/18 11:12:12 AM #140: |
Damn, this is so sad. I hope everyone working there is Ok after this event. Do you guys think the department will be able to recover? I'm worried there won't be enough counselors to help all of the employees.
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A_Good_Boy 12/05/18 11:35:11 AM #141: |
SaithSayer posted...
My intent was to point out that the noose has been used to kill every race and white people have been killed the most with it. What do you think minority means? It's OK bro, you don't have to continue. I couldn't possibly think any lower of you. I appreciate the effort though. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 11:40:02 AM #142: |
No retort, eh? Can't say I'm surprised.
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voldothegr8 12/05/18 11:57:28 AM #143: |
Cop murders unarmed person, administrative leave with pay.
Cop decorates tree that can be construed as racist "YOU'RE FIRED!" Glad their priorities are in order. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 8 (3) | THE Ohio State: 11-1 | Oakland Raiders: 2-8 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 11:59:15 AM #144: |
I recall there being a can of STEEL RESERVE in the tree. That's mocking rednecks without a doubt.
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KStateKing17 12/05/18 12:35:45 PM #145: |
prettyprincess posted...
strange to see so many get caught up on but exactly which group is this targeting? rather than operating under the assumption that guy who made stereotype tree obviously may target multiple groups Yeah it looks like it isn't specifically black, but whether its a race or a class thing the chief of police shouldn't be doing shit like that in the first place. When you work in a community you don't have a good relationship with, even compared to other departments in the area, this was a very dumb decision and he should indeed be let go. --- The 17th King of the State of K ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaithSayer 12/05/18 12:37:28 PM #146: |
He didn't have to put it online. He could've just taken a picture with his phone and sent it to the people he thought would laugh.
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DifferentialEquation 12/05/18 12:41:57 PM #147: |
There was nothing racist about that tree.
If you see junk food and crime scene tape and immediately think of a certain race, then you're the racist. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 12/05/18 1:08:05 PM #148: |
Dragonblade01 posted...
prettyprincess posted...Dragonblade01 posted...Well, I'm sorry I don't automatically assume the parts that don't offend me are irrelevant. Fair enough. My bad for jumping on you about it. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YookaLaylee 12/05/18 1:14:36 PM #149: |
The mental gymnastics that some of you guys go through to defend racism and inappropriate behavior is astounding
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FursonaNonGrata 12/05/18 4:30:47 PM #150: |
YookaLaylee posted...
The mental gymnastics that some of you guys go through to defend racism and inappropriate behavior is astounding Stupid racist people like to pretend that literally everything exists in a vacuum devoid of context. I dont know why, but maybe its easier for them to justify their deplorable views that way. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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