Poll of the Day > Egyptian actress sued for wearing dress that "invites debauchery"

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JanwayDaahl
12/04/18 4:14:30 PM
#51:


Muscles posted...
Yea I do want that, people shouldn't face jail time for a "racy" outfit


If it's against the laws of the land and you break them, maybe it should. Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's.
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adjl
12/04/18 4:25:53 PM
#52:


JanwayDaahl posted...
If it's against the laws of the land and you break them, maybe it should.


If you take a legalistic view of morality, sure, but that's pretty much the epitome of intellectual and moral laziness.
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/04/18 6:17:35 PM
#53:


JanwayDaahl posted...
Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's

They are if another culture's morals are stupid. I'm a firm believer in leaving people the fuck alone if they're not negatively impacting anyone. Holding someone captive because of an outfit is ridiculous, whether or not it's "lawful."

It's absolutely no different than if I'd kidnap someone and lock them in my basement because they were wearing shorts and I prefer long pants.
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Mead
12/04/18 6:24:44 PM
#54:


If a culture tramples civil rights or basic freedom then that part of their culture deserves no respect from anyone
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OhhhJa
12/04/18 6:42:43 PM
#55:


I think it's hilarious that this janway alt continues to masquerade as a Muslim woman. It's pretty clear that it's just some angry incel
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Revelation34
12/04/18 6:54:57 PM
#56:


JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="


SunWuKung420 posted...
I have an analogy.

What if female peacocks killed any male that showed its train?

Seriously, males, learn to control yourself. Let women be sexy. Don't creep.


Wat.

JanwayDaahl posted...
If the freedom to choose your own clothes (including racy, inappropriate ones), and the freedom to be a skank are things you see as something you want in your society, then Western society is the best example of how poorly this sort of freedom turns out. Your women are largely gross sluts by the time they marry, and they divorce super often. Your family structure is complete garbage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="

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JanwayDaahl
12/04/18 8:08:30 PM
#57:


Revelation34 posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M" data-time="


SunWuKung420 posted...
I have an analogy.

What if female peacocks killed any male that showed its train?

Seriously, males, learn to control yourself. Let women be sexy. Don't creep.


Wat.

JanwayDaahl posted...
If the freedom to choose your own clothes (including racy, inappropriate ones), and the freedom to be a skank are things you see as something you want in your society, then Western society is the best example of how poorly this sort of freedom turns out. Your women are largely gross sluts by the time they marry, and they divorce super often. Your family structure is complete garbage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="


No real arguments posted, just idiotic memes and videos. No wonder people elected trump, because people like you did stuff like this. Granted, you can't make any real counter-argument here.

Mover_of_Zigs posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's

They are if another culture's morals are stupid. I'm a firm believer in leaving people the fuck alone if they're not negatively impacting anyone. Holding someone captive because of an outfit is ridiculous, whether or not it's "lawful."

It's absolutely no different than if I'd kidnap someone and lock them in my basement because they were wearing shorts and I prefer long pants.


It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. Their lawmakers understandably consider this a slippery slope (which it is), so they are taking measures to stop that. The Muslim world does not welcome promiscuous women like the west does- it is extremely detrimental to our way of life. I still find it astounding that any man would want his wife/sister/mother to a brazen whore and think it's somehow OK, but whatever, that's your choice as a society. Just don't expect others to adopt your horrible familial values.

OhhhJa posted...
I think it's hilarious that this janway alt continues to masquerade as a Muslim woman. It's pretty clear that it's just some angry incel


I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"
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HelIWithoutSin
12/04/18 8:10:42 PM
#58:


JanwayDaahl posted...
I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"


But you've said yourself in the past that you have a well liked alt on this board that no one would guess is you. So you're no stranger to adopting personas by your own words.
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JanwayDaahl
12/04/18 8:29:48 PM
#59:


HelIWithoutSin posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"


But you've said yourself in the past that you have a well liked alt on this board that no one would guess is you. So you're no stranger to adopting personas by your own words.


Yes, I do, but I'm not lying about being a Muslim woman, in any case. I'm open about it on this account, not on my alt.
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OhhhJa
12/04/18 9:02:21 PM
#60:


JanwayDaahl posted...
I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"

Sure... you could be a Muslim woman. Just know that the shit you spew sounds very similar to the garbage that incels do.
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Nichtcrawler X
12/04/18 9:08:03 PM
#61:


JanwayDaahl posted...
The Muslim world does not welcome promiscuous women like the west does- it is extremely detrimental to our way of life. I still find it astounding that any man would want his wife/sister/mother to a brazen whore and think it's somehow OK, but whatever, that's your choice as a society. Just don't expect others to adopt your horrible familial values.


The problem is the different ways men and women are viewed in such a situation. The whole "master key and shitty lock" (false) analogy.
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JanwayDaahl
12/04/18 10:17:22 PM
#62:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
The Muslim world does not welcome promiscuous women like the west does- it is extremely detrimental to our way of life. I still find it astounding that any man would want his wife/sister/mother to a brazen whore and think it's somehow OK, but whatever, that's your choice as a society. Just don't expect others to adopt your horrible familial values.


The problem is the different ways men and women are viewed in such a situation. The whole "master key and shitty lock" (false) analogy.


I've heard that analogy and know that it's mostly true, though especially true in a feminized society. In a traditional patriarchy it doesn't hold as much weight, that's probably fair to say.

OhhhJa posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"

Sure... you could be a Muslim woman. Just know that the shit you spew sounds very similar to the garbage that incels do.


To be honest, most of the male feminists I've seen who say the things you say are the biggest incels I've seen. I see them regularly at my workplace too- they're usually overweight guys who have never had much luck with women, so they fall back to this sort of behavior as a last ditch effort.
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Revelation34
12/04/18 10:22:30 PM
#63:


JanwayDaahl posted...
No real arguments posted, just idiotic memes and videos. No wonder people elected trump, because people like you did stuff like this. Granted, you can't make any real counter-argument here.


Yet you think anything you posted is an actual argument.
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HelIWithoutSin
12/04/18 11:18:02 PM
#64:


JanwayDaahl posted...
HelIWithoutSin posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I still find it hilarious that you find it hard to believe a Muslim woman can say what I say. You must have very limited interactions and live in a little world (probably your mother's basement) if your only retort is "wahh this person is an incel!!"


But you've said yourself in the past that you have a well liked alt on this board that no one would guess is you. So you're no stranger to adopting personas by your own words.


Yes, I do, but I'm not lying about being a Muslim woman, in any case. I'm open about it on this account, not on my alt.


And that's exactly my point. I'm sure you say exactly the same thing about whatever you pretend to be on the rest of your alts.
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OhhhJa
12/04/18 11:19:54 PM
#65:


JanwayDaahl posted...
To be honest, most of the male feminists I've seen who say the things you say are the biggest incels I've seen. I see them regularly at my workplace too- they're usually overweight guys who have never had much luck with women, so they fall back to this sort of behavior as a last ditch effort.

Clearly, I've upset you. I thought incels like yourself were supposed to be proud in a weird way to be incels. Either accept who you are or accept that you want to be less angry and not hate people because their lifestyle is different than yours. You're probably a troll alt regardless but even then that speaks volumes about the pent up rage inside you
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Nichtcrawler X
12/04/18 11:29:40 PM
#66:


JanwayDaahl posted...

I've heard that analogy and know that it's mostly true, though especially true in a feminized society. In a traditional patriarchy it doesn't hold as much weight, that's probably fair to say.


I mean that many people believe it, thus holding a very unfair double standard when it comes to sexual activity.
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JanwayDaahl
12/05/18 4:39:13 AM
#67:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...

I've heard that analogy and know that it's mostly true, though especially true in a feminized society. In a traditional patriarchy it doesn't hold as much weight, that's probably fair to say.


I mean that many people believe it, thus holding a very unfair double standard when it comes to sexual activity.


How is it unfair if it's true? It's much easier for me as a woman to have sex than it is for a man to have sex. Granted, neither gender should be promiscuous, but it's this way nevertheless.

OhhhJa posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
To be honest, most of the male feminists I've seen who say the things you say are the biggest incels I've seen. I see them regularly at my workplace too- they're usually overweight guys who have never had much luck with women, so they fall back to this sort of behavior as a last ditch effort.

Clearly, I've upset you. I thought incels like yourself were supposed to be proud in a weird way to be incels. Either accept who you are or accept that you want to be less angry and not hate people because their lifestyle is different than yours. You're probably a troll alt regardless but even then that speaks volumes about the pent up rage inside you


You're the one calling women "incels." You're upset because you're an overweight male feminist who got described to a tee. Now you're doing that thing liberals do when confronted with an opposing viewpoint- crying "troll!!!" and running away like a coward. No wonder people like Trump came to power.

Revelation34 posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
No real arguments posted, just idiotic memes and videos. No wonder people elected trump, because people like you did stuff like this. Granted, you can't make any real counter-argument here.


Yet you think anything you posted is an actual argument.


You're still not posting anything substantive. So far you've just posted facetious memes, videos, and disregarded what I said. You're not able to have a dialogue, and it reflects poorly on you.
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VeeVees
12/05/18 5:39:27 AM
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lol, shit religion is shit
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Nichtcrawler X
12/05/18 7:49:28 AM
#69:


JanwayDaahl posted...
Granted, neither gender should be promiscuous,


On that point we can agree (if you mean biological sex). Still, in this day and age, we should not treat men and women differently when it comes to promiscuity.
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OhhhJa
12/05/18 8:57:55 AM
#70:


JanwayDaahl posted...
You're the one calling women "incels."

Everyone knows you arent a woman. Plus, I've actually posted pics of myself here and I'm in excellent shape. You're mad at promiscuous women because they wont sleep with you. Also, I am definitely not a male feminist lol
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Revelation34
12/05/18 1:13:28 PM
#71:


JanwayDaahl posted...
You're still not posting anything substantive. So far you've just posted facetious memes, videos, and disregarded what I said. You're not able to have a dialogue, and it reflects poorly on you.


You make claims without backing them up and then use ridiculous "sources" like the fucking Daily Mail. You must be Duckbear's other alt.
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/05/18 1:26:30 PM
#72:


JanwayDaahl posted...
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.

It could be that simple if people could take a break from being assholes. Not sure why anyone would defend locking somebody away over clothes.
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Muscles
12/05/18 1:47:29 PM
#73:


JanwayDaahl posted...
Muscles posted...
Yea I do want that, people shouldn't face jail time for a "racy" outfit


If it's against the laws of the land and you break them, maybe it should. Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's.

If they aren't hurting anyone then why is it a problem? Live and let live, not live and oppress others for doing something that doesn't even harm anyone
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Mead
12/05/18 1:48:45 PM
#74:


Fuck those laws and anyone that thinks theyre ok
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adjl
12/05/18 2:10:29 PM
#75:


JanwayDaahl posted...
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be. Their lawmakers understandably consider this a slippery slope (which it is), so they are taking measures to stop that.


A slippery slope to... women not being completely subservient to their husbands? Oh no! Not that! better lock up those menaces to society. There's no telling the chaos and havoc they could wreak.

JanwayDaahl posted...
To be honest, most of the male feminists I've seen who say the things you say are the biggest incels I've seen. I see them regularly at my workplace too- they're usually overweight guys who have never had much luck with women, so they fall back to this sort of behavior as a last ditch effort.


Incels are distinct from lonely virgins. Lonely virgins that don't lash out at the world and harbour violent rage toward women for denying them sex aren't incels. Those who promote a world in which women are subservient and exist primarily for husband-sexing, however, are.

JanwayDaahl posted...
How is it unfair if it's true? It's much easier for me as a woman to have sex than it is for a man to have sex.


And that reality exists because of the double standard wherein men are permitted to enjoy and seek out sex and women are expected to tolerate and withhold it (except from their husbands). Fix that double standard, and the whole "key/lock" thing stops being at all applicable for non-reproductive sex (i.e. the vast majority of sex in the developed world) and never used again except by sexist dinks (who are the main ones that use it now).
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dedbus
12/05/18 7:49:44 PM
#76:


Wow strippers have pretty high status over there if they refer to them as actresses.
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JanwayDaahl
12/06/18 12:51:33 AM
#77:


OhhhJa posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
You're the one calling women "incels."

Everyone knows you arent a woman. Plus, I've actually posted pics of myself here and I'm in excellent shape. You're mad at promiscuous women because they wont sleep with you. Also, I am definitely not a male feminist lol


I have no idea whose alt you are, but you're definitely a pathological liar. I couldn't care less if you don't believe that I'm a woman, but at this point I'm sure you're an overweight male feminist incel yourself. Those are the only types of people who have your kind of rhetoric.

>Revelation34 posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
You're still not posting anything substantive. So far you've just posted facetious memes, videos, and disregarded what I said. You're not able to have a dialogue, and it reflects poorly on you.


You make claims without backing them up and then use ridiculous "sources" like the fucking Daily Mail. You must be Duckbear's other alt.


I don't think you even read the sources. They link the research in them.

Muscles posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
Muscles posted...
Yea I do want that, people shouldn't face jail time for a "racy" outfit


If it's against the laws of the land and you break them, maybe it should. Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's.

If they aren't hurting anyone then why is it a problem? Live and let live, not live and oppress others for doing something that doesn't even harm anyone


But it is hurting people- it hurts the moral fabric of society. I don't want my sisters to promiscuous- it makes them undependable life partners, and frankly it's disgusting to think of numerous men having a woman before marriage. I hold the same expectation for my brothers.
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Zacek
12/06/18 1:16:33 AM
#78:


This is too much!
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OhhhJa
12/06/18 1:21:25 AM
#79:


JanwayDaahl posted...
I have no idea whose alt you are, but you're definitely a pathological liar. I couldn't care less if you don't believe that I'm a woman, but at this point I'm sure you're an overweight male feminist incel yourself. Those are the only types of people who have your kind of rhetoric.

I obviously hit too close to home calling you an incel since you resorted to "I know you are but what am I!"
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JanwayDaahl
12/06/18 1:45:57 AM
#80:


OhhhJa posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I have no idea whose alt you are, but you're definitely a pathological liar. I couldn't care less if you don't believe that I'm a woman, but at this point I'm sure you're an overweight male feminist incel yourself. Those are the only types of people who have your kind of rhetoric.

I obviously hit too close to home calling you an incel since you resorted to "I know you are but what am I!"


You're a pathological liar who is deeply in denial. I feel bad for you at this point. It doesn't surprise me that someone like you espouses debauchery.
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HelIWithoutSin
12/06/18 2:25:36 AM
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Janners calling people liars? Let's take a look at some of his excuses regarding his being a real female.

When his being male or female first came into question, he was very assertive that he never used any gender specific pronouns to refer to himself in the first place. Then, for some reason, he started pretending to be female.

Then, when old posts of his were dug up where he referred to himself as a family man and another that started off with "As a guy who's taken 9 AP courses," he said that those were the common sayings and it wouldn't make sense using the female counterparts. So much for never using gender specific pronouns.

Then, even more old posts were uncovered, one saying "I'm a tea man myself" another "I'm the kind of guy" and another topic complaining about an effeminate habit of sticking his pinky out when he drinks (kind of weird of a supposed female complaining about having female characteristics) and responding that he'd kill himself after someone replied that meant he was gay.

His excuse there was that he had been getting harassing PM's from neckbeards from when he was openly female, so he donned the guise of being male. So much for never using gender specific pronouns. And I guess he's fine again with being openly female now and getting all those PM's from neckbeards.
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ClarkDuke
12/06/18 4:03:38 AM
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I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?
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Muscles
12/06/18 5:09:37 AM
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JanwayDaahl posted...
Muscles posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
Muscles posted...
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If it's against the laws of the land and you break them, maybe it should. Your moral values aren't any more important than another culture's.

If they aren't hurting anyone then why is it a problem? Live and let live, not live and oppress others for doing something that doesn't even harm anyone

But it is hurting people- it hurts the moral fabric of society. I don't want my sisters to promiscuous- it makes them undependable life partners, and frankly it's disgusting to think of numerous men having a woman before marriage. I hold the same expectation for my brothers.

But it's not hurting anyone, if they want to have sex before marriage why should you (or the government) force them not to? You say it hurts the moral fabric of a society but really it only effects the willing participant
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OhhhJa
12/06/18 12:05:50 PM
#84:


HelIWithoutSin posted...
Janners calling people liars? Let's take a look at some of his excuses regarding his being a real female.

When his being male or female first came into question, he was very assertive that he never used any gender specific pronouns to refer to himself in the first place. Then, for some reason, he started pretending to be female.

Then, when old posts of his were dug up where he referred to himself as a family man and another that started off with "As a guy who's taken 9 AP courses," he said that those were the common sayings and it wouldn't make sense using the female counterparts. So much for never using gender specific pronouns.

Then, even more old posts were uncovered, one saying "I'm a tea man myself" another "I'm the kind of guy" and another topic complaining about an effeminate habit of sticking his pinky out when he drinks (kind of weird of a supposed female complaining about having female characteristics) and responding that he'd kill himself after someone replied that meant he was gay.

His excuse there was that he had been getting harassing PM's from neckbeards from when he was openly female, so he donned the guise of being male. So much for never using gender specific pronouns. And I guess he's fine again with being openly female now and getting all those PM's from neckbeards.

I think he's intentionally trying to make it obvious he's an angry troll alt at this point
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Lokarin
12/06/18 2:27:27 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?


debachery is French for... the bachery
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OhhhJa
12/06/18 2:38:47 PM
#86:


Lokarin posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?


debachery is French for... the bachery

No its Spanish for "of butchery."
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Lokarin
12/06/18 2:40:23 PM
#87:


OhhhJa posted...
Lokarin posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?


debachery is French for... the bachery

No its Spanish for "of butchery."


So her dress invites making meat?
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OhhhJa
12/06/18 2:50:30 PM
#88:


Lokarin posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Lokarin posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?


debachery is French for... the bachery

No its Spanish for "of butchery."


So her dress invites making meat?

Sure does if you know what I mean
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Revelation34
12/06/18 3:00:12 PM
#89:


I wonder if she can seek asylum in a better country.
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_AdjI_
12/06/18 5:31:08 PM
#90:


JanwayDaahl posted...
I don't think you even read the sources. They link the research in them.


You linked to Huffington Post and Daily Mail for something other than celebrity gossip. It doesn't really matter what is linked in the articles, people aren't going to take your selection of links seriously enough to spend time on you.

JanwayDaahl posted...
But it is hurting people- it hurts the moral fabric of society.


What a uselessly vague and pathos-ridden statement this is.
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Lokarin
12/06/18 5:39:42 PM
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Also moral fabric not real
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ClarkDuke
12/07/18 1:12:55 AM
#92:


OhhhJa posted...
Lokarin posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Lokarin posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
I've always said, debauchery is the best bauchery, ok?


debachery is French for... the bachery

No its Spanish for "of butchery."


So her dress invites making meat?

Sure does if you know what I mean

I do like getting an erection, ok?
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/07/18 9:51:33 AM
#93:


ClarkDuke posted...
I do like getting an erection, ok?

Does anyone have any tips for hiding an erection in public?
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ParanoidObsessive
12/07/18 10:40:49 AM
#94:


Lokarin posted...
Also moral fabric not real

That's not true. I have a coat made out of it.


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Nichtcrawler X
12/07/18 10:54:26 AM
#95:


ParanoidObsessive posted...

That's not true. I have a coat made out of it.


I suppose the coat maker and all your subjects said it looks beautiful?
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coinstarcad
12/07/18 10:59:06 AM
#96:


Oh no, legs. That's some thigh treason right there. I'll see myself out.
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BUMPED2002
12/07/18 11:00:58 AM
#97:


I don't see anything wrong with her dress.
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Revelation34
12/07/18 11:04:02 AM
#98:


BUMPED2002 posted...
I don't see anything wrong with her dress.


That's because you're a normal person.
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Philoktetes
12/07/18 11:09:16 AM
#99:


Revelation34 posted...
BUMPED2002 posted...
I don't see anything wrong with her dress.


That's because you're a normal person.


because degeneracy has become normalized in western culture
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Revelation34
12/07/18 12:09:22 PM
#100:


Philoktetes posted...
because degeneracy has become normalized in western culture


Oh makes sense that this is your alt.
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