Poll of the Day > Egyptian actress sued for wearing dress that "invites debauchery"

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DoubleOSnake
12/02/18 9:05:09 AM
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DoubleOSnake
12/02/18 9:27:04 AM
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bumpers
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Lokarin
12/02/18 9:39:18 AM
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sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares
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MICHALECOLE
12/02/18 10:04:10 AM
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Lokarin posted...
sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares

The pharaoh apparently
BeerOnTap
12/02/18 10:19:59 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
Lokarin posted...
sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares

The pharaoh apparently


We all know the real reason for this.
Lokarin
12/02/18 10:25:40 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
MICHALECOLE posted...
Lokarin posted...
sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares

The pharaoh apparently


We all know the real reason for this.


radical islam or their sjw pawns?
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GasMonkey
12/02/18 10:55:07 AM
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FatalAccident
12/02/18 11:35:43 AM
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Tbf I would definitely debauch the fuck out of her
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OmegaM
12/02/18 1:09:56 PM
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Let's hope some American and European feminists come out in support of her.
Dikitain
12/02/18 1:31:44 PM
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OmegaM posted...
Let's hope some American and European feminists come out in support of her.

Nah, they are too busy complaining about Internet trolls and mansplaining.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/02/18 2:14:25 PM
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That whole Arab Spring thing worked out really well.


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RCtheWSBC
12/02/18 2:16:49 PM
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OmegaM posted...
Let's hope some American and European feminists come out in support of her.

What do you expect them to do exactly? Go bail her out or overthrow the Egyptian justice system? >__>

I haven't seen anyone not support her; the ruling is atrocious. But what exactly do you expect other women in other countries to do?
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Lokarin
12/02/18 2:23:59 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
But what exactly do you expect other women in other countries to do?


complain on the internet, of course!
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RCtheWSBC
12/02/18 2:24:40 PM
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That's what we all do best these days
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Mead
12/02/18 2:37:07 PM
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Ugh who invited debauchery we were having a nice time until it showed up
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DirtBasedSoap
12/02/18 2:46:14 PM
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Lokarin posted...
sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares

people with really really low IQs
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ParanoidObsessive
12/02/18 2:50:45 PM
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Mead posted...
Ugh who invited debauchery we were having a nice time until it showed up

As far as I'm concerned, the party doesn't even start until debauchery shows up.


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GreenKnight127
12/02/18 2:55:26 PM
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Can we talk about Islam without getting banned? Because.....uh....
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Lokarin
12/02/18 3:19:13 PM
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GreenKnight127 posted...
Can we talk about Islam without getting banned? Because.....uh....


No, because Islam is a race. You can bash religion all you want, but you're not allowed to be racist here.
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/02/18 3:22:07 PM
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The Indy 500 is a race, but I don't want to get banned so I don't talk about it.
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Lokarin
12/02/18 3:41:07 PM
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Mover_of_Zigs posted...
The Indy 500 is a race, but I don't want to get banned so I don't talk about it.


Ya, they can F1 themselves
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rexcrk
12/02/18 9:43:49 PM
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Shes hot as hell. We should be encouraging girls that look like that to wear outfits like that.
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JanwayDaahl
12/02/18 10:03:29 PM
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I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.
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Zeus
12/02/18 10:41:39 PM
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Well, as advertised, that dress certainly invites debauchery. The style probably makes it look lewder than it is.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
That whole Arab Spring thing worked out really well.



She's probably showing skin for the Arab Summer.
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Lokarin
12/03/18 6:31:58 AM
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JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


Misses the point. Debauchery is exclusively a weakness in men. If a man wasn't a weak pudding, they wouldn't get debauch'd
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GreenKnight127
12/03/18 9:26:32 AM
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Lokarin posted...
GreenKnight127 posted...
Can we talk about Islam without getting banned? Because.....uh....


No, because Islam is a race. You can bash religion all you want, but you're not allowed to be racist here.


Islam is a race? I thought Islam was their religion???

Muslims are the people. Muslims follow Islam. Or vice versa. Or something. What.

Either way, I've been paying very close attention.....and the moment anyone questions or criticizes some of the very barbaric and sexist teachings in the Quran....they get modded or banned. Even if they aren't being hateful or "bashing" it.

It's almost like we're not allowed to critique religion, because the mods interpret that as us critiquing the people. Primarily Middle Eastern people. Who sometimes have brown skin. Which makes them minorities. Which makes any even remotely negative statement made towards their culture or values......as "hate speech".
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/03/18 2:03:06 PM
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Lokarin
12/03/18 2:20:37 PM
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GreenKnight127 posted...
Islam is a race? I thought Islam was their religion???

Muslims are the people. Muslims follow Islam. Or vice versa. Or something. What.


It's a reference to the "islamophobia is racism" line the SJWs, namely Anita Sarkeesian is pushing...

Here's a vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc9d398wuYg" data-time="

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_AdjI_
12/03/18 2:23:34 PM
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JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


I'm pretty sure the higher divorce rate is more because women don't become ostracized for being divorced than anything to do with your pseudoscientific babbling.
Lokarin
12/03/18 2:29:46 PM
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_AdjI_ posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


I'm pretty sure the higher divorce rate is more because women don't become ostracized for being divorced than anything to do with your pseudoscientific babbling.


Ya, by that logic the lowest divorce rates belong to the Jehova's Witnesses.... since the only way to get a divorce is to be murdered.
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Hop103
12/03/18 2:59:06 PM
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Islam is not a race but a religion and thus can and must be criticized.
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Zeus
12/03/18 3:11:33 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Misses the point. Debauchery is exclusively a weakness in men. If a man wasn't a weak pudding, they wouldn't get debauch'd


Stop victim-blaming!
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GreenKnight127
12/03/18 3:42:05 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Islam is not a race but a religion and thus can and must be criticized.


Agreed.

Sadly, in these overly politically correct times we live in (and with a lot of subtle propaganda in the media and entertainment)....criticizing Islam has become impossible.

You just aren't allowed to do it....otherwise you are being "racist".

Which is ironic, because they are assuming you are racist simply because the majority of Muslims have browner skin.....so they interpret that as you hating them (as people) instead of their religion (which can, without a doubt, be quite violent and intolerant).

I've always found it absolutely fascinating to watch.

You'll have Women's Rights marches....feminist rallies....#MeToo marches.....and all this shit happening in America. But those same people attending those marches....would never DARE criticize many aspects of Islam which literally treats their precious women like farm equipment in many areas of the world. No mention of the all the rapes. Incest. Murder. Enslavement. Nope! Their religion is untouchable. Unquestionable. Because you don't want to come across as a "bigot" now do you?

Hell, even in places like India, when women menstruate...they are kicked out of the family home and have to live in "menstruation huts". Basically a dog house. Dozens of young women die every year in these menstruation huts from snake bikes and smoke inhalation when they try to make fires to stay warm! Do you ever hear Women's Rights protestors in America complain about that kind of oppression? Of course not. Because to criticize Indian culture would be "racist".

They use the assumption of racism to protect their religious immorality.

Political correctness is going to bite us all in the ass sooner or later. Just wait and see.
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adjl
12/03/18 4:26:59 PM
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I see a lot of people say that, but I really don't see too many people complaining when somebody says this sort of thing is bad. The problem arises when all Muslims are painted as misogynists (or radically violent), because that sort of attitude hurts the many that are perfectly nice people. Provided you make sure the scope of your comment is correct, you aren't going to see too many complaints. Here, let me demonstrate:

This situation is stupid and wrong. Egypt should not have such a flagrantly misogynistic law that so oppresses and infringes upon the personal freedoms of its women.

I very highly doubt that I'll get modded for this. The trick is to say what you actually mean, rather than generalizing the sentiment inappropriately.
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GreenKnight127
12/03/18 5:08:41 PM
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adjl posted...
I see a lot of people say that, but I really don't see too many people complaining when somebody says this sort of thing is bad. The problem arises when all Muslims are painted as misogynists (or radically violent), because that sort of attitude hurts the many that are perfectly nice people. Provided you make sure the scope of your comment is correct, you aren't going to see too many complaints. Here, let me demonstrate:

This situation is stupid and wrong. Egypt should not have such a flagrantly misogynistic law that so oppresses and infringes upon the personal freedoms of its women.

I very highly doubt that I'll get modded for this. The trick is to say what you actually mean, rather than generalizing the sentiment inappropriately.


I've been modded on Gamefaqs for saying sentences exactly like that in the past. No "hate", no "flaming", no "trolling"....just criticizing misogynistic laws that stem from their religious/cultural values.

It's magically interpreted as "hate speech" or "racism" by a lot of people in 2018.

It just depends on how many whiny brats decide to mark your message for moderation.
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coinstarcad
12/03/18 5:35:29 PM
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Solution: Distribute glasses designed to impair vision.
Lokarin
12/03/18 5:35:51 PM
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Lol.

It's hate speech to tell Egypt to change their laws
It's hate speech to tell the UK to enforce their laws

>.>
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JanwayDaahl
12/03/18 8:02:54 PM
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Lokarin posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


Misses the point. Debauchery is exclusively a weakness in men. If a man wasn't a weak pudding, they wouldn't get debauch'd


No, that street goes both ways, and for the most part women control who gets sexual access (this includes dressing immodestly).

_AdjI_ posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.


I'm pretty sure the higher divorce rate is more because women don't become ostracized for being divorced than anything to do with your pseudoscientific babbling.


Pretty sure I had you blocked, is this a new account? I'll fix that after this. But to address your idiotic point, western women divorce more often now because they have more incentive to do so. They can marry some ugly guy and walk away with his money, easily. They also don't make good long term partners because they sleep with multiple attractive men in their youth and don't feel like settling for less when they're older.

It's also not pseudoscientific; liberal institutions definitely won't condone research that directly implicates female sexual promiscuity with these sorts of things. However there is a good amount of research that strongly suggests that this is the case:

https://archive.is/xM4KD (Shows how Muslim coverings do their job well, btw)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2540009/Women-sleep-university-likely-depressed.html

http://public.psych.iastate.edu/ccutrona/psych592a/articles/Sexual%20infidelity%20in%20women.pdf

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2733220/Women-don-t-sleep-wedding-happier-marriages-men-play-field-without-worry-study-finds.html

https://imgur.com/rrLe319

http://www.statisticbrain.com/percent-of-female-infidelity-based-on-number-of-premarital-partners/
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Zeus
12/03/18 8:13:57 PM
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adjl posted...
I see a lot of people say that, but I really don't see too many people complaining when somebody says this sort of thing is bad. The problem arises when all Muslims are painted as misogynists (or radically violent), because that sort of attitude hurts the many that are perfectly nice people. Provided you make sure the scope of your comment is correct, you aren't going to see too many complaints.


...and yet he's perfectly fine when broad criticisms are applied to the much more secular Christians >_>
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SunWuKung420
12/03/18 8:19:27 PM
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I have an analogy.

What if female peacocks killed any male that showed its train?

Seriously, males, learn to control yourself. Let women be sexy. Don't creep.
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OmegaM
12/03/18 10:02:07 PM
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Lokarin posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
But what exactly do you expect other women in other countries to do?

complain on the internet, of course!

That is more or less what I meant. If a feminist would denounce some conservative Christian doing something like this, I hope the feminist would denounce the Egyptian government for doing this.
Muscles
12/03/18 10:11:38 PM
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JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.

We'll oppress you so you won't be oppressed by the freedom to choose your own clothes!
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JanwayDaahl
12/04/18 2:07:14 AM
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Muscles posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
I love how westerners and people like OP like to tout their moral views as superior to other culture's. News flash: western women are highly promiscuous and have extremely high divorce rates for a good reason- they can't really pair bond and make for poor long term partners. Thankfully Muslims don't want that happening to their women, so they more strict when it comes to things that can lead to a sexually debaucherous western-esque culture.

We'll oppress you so you won't be oppressed by the freedom to choose your own clothes!


If the freedom to choose your own clothes (including racy, inappropriate ones), and the freedom to be a skank are things you see as something you want in your society, then Western society is the best example of how poorly this sort of freedom turns out. Your women are largely gross sluts by the time they marry, and they divorce super often. Your family structure is complete garbage.
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Muscles
12/04/18 5:01:00 AM
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Yea I do want that, people shouldn't face jail time for a "racy" outfit
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ParanoidObsessive
12/04/18 6:11:02 AM
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Lokarin posted...
Ya, by that logic the lowest divorce rates belong to the Jehova's Witnesses.... since the only way to get a divorce is to be murdered.

Technically not true.

They CAN get divorced, they just tend to adhere to older standards of what justifies it, and not the modern "Ehh, fuck it, I'm bored - let's get divorced" model.


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Solid Sonic
12/04/18 6:25:21 AM
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Lokarin posted...
sleeveless AND you can see collarbone? DEAAATH SENETEEEEENCE

Seriously, who cares

Are you saying that about the issue or the story?
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Lokarin
12/04/18 10:02:06 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Lokarin posted...
Ya, by that logic the lowest divorce rates belong to the Jehova's Witnesses.... since the only way to get a divorce is to be murdered.

Technically not true.

They CAN get divorced, they just tend to adhere to older standards of what justifies it, and not the modern "Ehh, fuck it, I'm bored - let's get divorced" model.



But then they risk getting defellowshipped
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ParanoidObsessive
12/04/18 10:15:06 AM
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Lokarin posted...
But then they risk getting defellowshipped

Again, depends on the context.

They're not all that far off from Catholics in that regard. Catholics aren't supposed to get divorced either, and if you do you can catch flack from other Catholics... but there are also multiple acceptable scenarios under which separation is allowed without censure. If anything, Catholics are actually stricter about it than Jehovah's Witnesses are - and Catholics have something like a 30% divorce rate for purely Catholic+Catholic marriages (and Catholic+something else have even higher odds of resulting in divorce).

And in both cases, even if you do "sin" by fragrantly committing a sin of frivolously getting married and throwing it away without just cause, there are multiple avenues to basically say "Sorry, my bad, I still want to be part of the secret club though" and be absolved of it.


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_AdjI_
12/04/18 11:59:04 AM
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GreenKnight127 posted...
I've been modded on Gamefaqs for saying sentences exactly like that in the past.


And yet my post is still there. Methinks they weren't as similar as you're claiming.

Lokarin posted...
Lol.

It's hate speech to tell Egypt to change their laws
It's hate speech to tell the UK to enforce their laws

>.>


All laws are not equal.

JanwayDaahl posted...
Pretty sure I had you blocked, is this a new account?


You can answer that for yourself.

JanwayDaahl posted...
But to address your idiotic point, western women divorce more often now because they have more incentive to do so. They can marry some ugly guy and walk away with his money, easily. They also don't make good long term partners because they sleep with multiple attractive men in their youth and don't feel like settling for less when they're older.


So... they divorce more because they feel divorcing is better than staying in the marriage? How DARE they have the freedom to do that! Better make it illegal for them to ever attract another man instead of expecting their husbands to make an effort to be the best partner for them.

Or, you know, maybe personal freedom is better than maintaining marriages purely for the sake of maintaining marriages, and the relationship troubles of a country's citizens are none of its business. The only laws governing that should be to prevent one party's exploitation of the other.

Zeus posted...
...and yet he's perfectly fine when broad criticisms are applied to the much more secular Christians >_>


Examples?
adjl
12/04/18 1:10:57 PM
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Also, actually looking at those links, this one
JanwayDaahl posted...
http://public.psych.iastate.edu/ccutrona/psych592a/articles/Sexual%20infidelity%20in%20women.pdf


Is just examining the discrepancy in self-reported rates of infidelity between face-to-face interviews and computer-based ones, with the conclusion that women are more likely to admit to cheating if they're talking to a computer than a person. It has absolutely nothing to do with your point, or with anything said in here.
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