Board 8 > Mycro ranks the 278 VGM tracks that were nominated by BOARD EIGHT [rankings]

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azuarc
12/06/18 6:29:02 PM
101
SuperNiceDog posted...
Noooooo Ashenvale! I get why you don't like it, it is boring if you haven't played Wow.

For a lot of people, it's the most iconic song from the game. I think... without the rest of the game supporting it, the song actually does seem boring.


I haven't played WoW since the beginning of Cataclysm, which would be...2010? I developed an Alliance leveling guide that actually used Ashenvale, though, so I ran through there quite a bit. And sure, the track is nostalgic, I suppose, but I'm not sure what I consider "iconic" from WoW other than the original title theme (which I don't especially care for, by the way.) The problem with a lot of the zone themes like this one is that they're really just a montage of smaller clips. The beginning was the part I came in expecting to hear, and then there was other stuff I was meh about, mixed in with a few I remember distinctly.
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MC_XD
12/07/18 6:59:52 PM
102
Arise!
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MycroProcessor
12/08/18 6:32:09 AM
103
268th
Game: Baba Is You
Title: Ingame Music (Gamejam Version)
Composer: Arvi Teikari
Nominator: dowolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdYT-efk77o" data-time="


so it's pretty clear to most people that I like "weird" things but I think it is also probably painfully clear that I do not like "simple" things. This is definitely both simple and weird at the same time.

The simplicity of this is far far too pronounced for me to appreciate it's weirdness unfortunately. The simplicity is mostly rhythmic, because in terms of tonality it's actually vaguely weird (at least as far as something this empty can get, though it mostly aligns itself to a consistent diatonic scale even if it uses it really strangely, though imo that is much more boring than if it was literally just random chromatic naivety, though at least there's a tiny bit of chromatic dissonance when the high beep part gets harmonized) preeety sure most of the tonal weirdness is unintentional amateurishness but maybe it's intentional, i don't know, it doesn't matter to me either way because i SORT of like the mild weirdness of it

. ..but I just can't appreciate the weirdness i'd normally like because of how like "1 - 2 and - AND 4 AND" the rhythm is" and the only real thing that happens as it goes is more layers getting added. the high beep is only on all the 'and' off beats but that doesn't really help this be much more rhythmically ungridded, honestly mostly comes across as cheesy carnival thing instead to me in this context

the SOUNDS are funny and one of the more appealing aspects of this imo, like the white noise sustaining is " WHOA TRIPPY" and the bubbly nature of the blblblblblblblblb square sound being interrupted is kind of cool. the picture all this paints in my head is an infinitely vast void of DELETION where all memories become erased and you're just sort of casually wandering around calmly hoping that you don't also become erased from history and forgotten by everyone forever by the random cubes of tv static that appear and erase things trapped in the void from existence permanently. but you're still really happy to be there and pretty chill about the whole thing

I've heard of this game before, and I actually downloaded it to play it just now for a little bit, it's decently fun. Wish the music was less 0000000000000000000000000 though
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OrangeCrush980
12/08/18 6:55:57 AM
104
You are Hideo Baba
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dowolf
12/08/18 9:11:16 AM
105
it is kinda simple yeah. oh well.

The game is possibly my favorite thing that I played last year though, and it's free and like 30 minutes long tops, so everyone should check it out >_>
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SuperNiceDog
12/08/18 10:47:51 AM
106
that baba is you song is creepy!
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FL81
12/08/18 1:38:56 PM
107
banshiryuu
12/08/18 7:53:59 PM
108
i actually thought it was going to be some baba yetu thing until i realized that was the game name
MycroProcessor
12/08/18 8:51:05 PM
109
267th
Game: Trails of Cold Steel 4
Title: Unknown fortress theme
Composer: Falcom Sound Team jdk (Hayato Sonoda, Takahiro Unisuga), Yukihiro Jindo
Nominator: Haunter12O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHKtKtaJ9U" data-time="


I wanted this to be higher because there's a lot of random moments I actually really love, but I guess in the end it just wound up down here.

The arpeggio going down just an A minor triad over and over down the keyboard at :07 is really really cheesy to me, really hate that part.

Too many parts of this song sound like a "real song" so I do not like it > : ( IT MAKES too mujch SENSE and so then I know what the next thing in the song that happens is going to be.

There are some REALLY cool chord change moments though. I absolutely love the suddenness of the chord change at like :52 (and a lot of the constant tonal center shifts surrounding it), I think in terms of like "favorite thing that happens in any of the songs in the ORANGE ZONE" that might be my favorite thing that happens in anything I've put this low? ACTUALLY no it is not there are moments I like a bit more in the ones I ranked 264th and 263rd I think, but that part is still really great to me. just some really cool melody going cool places and chords going where i'm not expecting them like a rollerc coaster but ONLY for like 10 seconds in a middle of a song that has too many things that I think are "cheesy"

but otherwise this song just sounds like a bunch of very fat rich people to me MOSTly. Triplets can be fun but this is too much super on the beat stuff for me, big hits on one and three as like the significant moments that The God of Ice Music Named "Realm greatness" has thrust upon our land or something sounds not just plain to me but like it sounds like a file cabinet at an office that only has two things in it and they are completely evenly spaced apart from each other so you forget that they exist because they seem like they are just dividers

there's some cool subtle things everywhere like dissonant piano around :30 is cool and also a lot of parts are just COOL DRAMATIC emotion and i like the p[arts that feel that way 2 me.!

I think this is MAAYbe one I "ranked too low" but even if I ranked it higher than this it would probably not be that much higher than this. (most of the "high stuff in the orange zone" i guess i'll feel this way about because I "would rather not listen to music than listen to them" but they have so many things I like about them at the same time so that is why they are at the top of the low part. generally songs i feel conflicted about)

I definitely like this more than a lot of falcom music in a LOT of ways, like I usually think of falcom stuff as being full of a bunch of predictable cadences that i dislike and lacking any of the sort of harmonic roller coasters i crave, but this actually has a lot of moments I really enjoy in that sense, and even the things I dislike aren't necessarily that 'obvious' they just feel too much like they are "correct" and not "incorrect" or at least they register that way too me so i do not like them, but they're definitely not "simple" , they are just USEFUL ( gadget of the day: 15 15 jrpg swords that you can stab into your leg so that you can become good at modern music
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MC_XD
12/08/18 10:44:42 PM
110
I haven't heard that song until now (haven't listened to much SnK4) but I really, really like it, so I'm a little sad to see it so low. Not too surprising though, since it's Falcom.
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Simoun
12/08/18 11:57:13 PM
111
What's wrong with Falcom
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MycroProcessor
12/09/18 12:16:27 AM
112
nothing, I'm just (sort of) known for not liking falcom music as much as the rest of the board here typically does? I don't really hate it but it's super board 8 popular vgm so sometimes it comes across that way haha
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xp1337
12/09/18 10:33:53 AM
113
As someone who has gone through the Sen 4 OST, ehhhhh. With that song the parts I most like from it are generally found in other songs on the OST and done better there. Not the biggest fan of it.
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pyresword
12/09/18 12:14:44 PM
114
I'm also not that big on Falcom music compared to the rest of the board. I like TitS and I like Gurumin, but other than those I'm really not that big on their music from what I've heard. Trails of Cold Steel in particular falls squarely in the realm of "mediocre VGM" for me.

This song is...reasonably good I guess, and is probably better in context, but it also doesn't strike me as anything really memorable.

MycroProcessor posted...
this song just sounds like a bunch of very fat rich people to me MOSTly. Triplets can be fun but this is too much super on the beat stuff for me

This actually sums up my reaction to the song really well, to be honest, though it's probably not near as strong a negative reaction as Mycro's.
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MycroProcessor
12/09/18 4:11:07 PM
115
266th
Game: Splatterhouse 2
Title: Title Theme
Composer: Eiko Kaneda
Nominator: lordjers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvFxZoQTnKk" data-time="


So how does a game this dark/gory have music this cartoonishly cheesy? If I didn't know what this was to i'd assume it's to like a cute goofy Halloween level in some licensed kids cartoon game (not that that's inherently a bad thing to me, but this particular flavor of music i associate with that is something i extremely do not like).

I decided to watch this game and listen to the music and (frustratingly?) I actually really like most of the other music to this game and I actually DO think most of the music is fittingly unsettling enough to match the kind of content in the game. Just not this song, holy shit I hate this song why did this have to be the one that got picked from it...

The main reason it's this high is because I kind of automatically like Genesis music ("listened to every genesis soundtrack" in the early 2010s including this one, but i might as well say I never listened to it because I definitely don't remember it). I wanted to put it higher since there's definitely moments I legit enjoy, but there are so many things about it that rReally come across as STUPID to me.

The worst is honestly the start, the extreme amount of vibrato on those held out notes just sounds really silly to me.

Not long after that there's just too many parts that feel like they're trying to be emphasized in the least effective feeling ways to me like the sequence of 4 notes starting at :22, and then it just doubles speed at :26...just really that was one of the most cheesy directions this could've taken at that point

around :32 there's all these goofy PHANTOM OF THE OPERA chromatic lines that sound more like a carnival to me than they sound like a horror related thing at all.

I guess a more concise way to describe this is that it sounds like you gave someone a list of things that you are supposed to put into "spooky music" and then they put all of those things in in this music but in the most face value straightforward way that only makes sense on paper...

Like "if you play all of the notes in a diminished chord in a row it is SCAREY" so then they just really flatly put that in. or "take this sequence of notes but play it at double speed so that it becomes more INTENSE" so then they just...do that. end result feels super stilted and fake to me

Anyways I start to like it a bit more around :54, part of it's that I like the specific fm instrument in that lead a lot there, but it's a successfully enough of a Dramatic Turn Of Events that it leaves impact on me when it happens too. the short glimpse of a HOPEFUL world at 1:01 is nice too, and it's cool how it keeps going even when the darker tone sets in on top of it afterwards and the same exact set of notes goes from being A BEAM OF LIGHT HOPE to creepy dissonant thing because it doesn't match what's going on around it anymore. really really cool moment there imo. like its just the same 4 notes as the part earlier on that i complained about (except transposed up a 5th) but everything around it is completely different so context completely changes how it feels

I LOVE BLOODthis song actually has a lot going on too like it's not simple in the way the lowest ranked stuff is where you can pick up everything that's going on on the first listen, there's lots of different possible things to pay attention to here, just all of the possible things you could be paying attention to are too 1 2 3 4 1234 (describe what music would be like if you were SPOOKY CASTLE MOTH ok i will not be at all clever at how i put the spooky castle moth inside of my song) for me so it does not matter how surface level intricate it is

I am not sure if anyone interprets this song as being anywhere near the level of corny I see it as, but it's how it comes across to me unfortunately
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FL81
12/09/18 4:13:22 PM
116
MycroProcessor
12/09/18 4:18:05 PM
117
hey I like cheesy things sometimes too...just not this. I know that's a pretty meaningless descriptor haha but I do not know how else to put it without being overwhelmingly wordy
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MycroProcessor
12/09/18 4:23:47 PM
118
anyways with that we have our FIRST ELIMINATION

ELIMINATED: lordjers (Average placement: 266th)

Bye lordjers, sorry that the only song you nominated happened to be one I did not like!

Here's the current status of average rankings and # of songs remaining everyone has in case you do not feel like clicking on the spreadsheet (I'd type this out but it feels redundant to do that here)

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Mr Lasastryke
12/09/18 4:30:03 PM
119
mycro likes (some) music that sounds cheesy, just not music that is cheesy, if that makes sense.

like, your reality isn't cheesy in a "wow this sounds like an '80s synthpop band" way but compositionally it's extremely cheesy.

obviously mycro can correct me if i'm wrong but i think i got this fairly right!
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SuperNiceDog
12/09/18 6:44:10 PM
120
lordjers NOOO
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SuperNiceDog
12/09/18 6:44:46 PM
121
that splatterhouse song is CREEPY. And I don't think in a good way.

I would put it even lower.
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Snake5555555555
12/09/18 7:45:11 PM
122
Splatterhouse 2 theme is awesome!
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azuarc
12/09/18 7:57:37 PM
123
Damn, I'm down to 8th now. This just isn't going my way as things progress...
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Haunter12O
12/09/18 10:51:30 PM
124
I didnt think youd rank my pick so low, but then maybe I shouldve picked a better track from that game. That was just the one I was listening to when I was writing out my nominations.
Simoun
12/10/18 9:06:09 PM
125
Bump
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SuperNiceDog
12/11/18 5:15:48 AM
126
bumping
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lordjers
12/11/18 11:30:41 AM
127
lol holy **** you destroyed my one song.

I chose that song from the game cause I left the intro on while doing chores and I didn't mind at all that it kept on looping and really motivated me to just fire the gme up afterwards.

I don't think it's supposed to be full on creepy telling you to feel scared on what's next. The first game ended on a sour note (I felt tempted to nominate the ending of the first one but without context it doesn't feel as powerful), but in the second one there's this chance to make things right, so it's time to set out on an adventure! So it's probably corny in the way of rescuing a damsel in distress that you thought were gone is; it just happens to be she's located in this haunted mansion.

The other song from the game I thought of including was the library one, but maybe it'd be corny to you too eh idk.

If I had known you'd have this user elimination system I'd have nominated more songs )=
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MycroProcessor
12/11/18 12:22:04 PM
128
lordjers posted...
The other song from the game I thought of including was the library one, but maybe it'd be corny to you too eh idk.

If I had known you'd have this user elimination system I'd have nominated more songs )=

Hey don't feel bad (nor should anyone else with picks this low honestly), my taste is probably hard to predict if you aren't super familiar with it already. and also this set of music was extremely good as a whole so that makes stuff that's like "bottom 10" look way more like I hate it than I actually do...I did say that even the stuff this low i thought was worth my time to listen to, and that includes your nomination haha.

You actually got me to look up the rest of the soundtrack (and watch the game) and most of it I'm actually kind of into! so you succeeded in that way anyways, probably wouldn't have done it otherwise. Think my favorite from memory is probably this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7tPTKfuHSg" data-time="


Also just listened to the library theme and I like it much better, definitely wouldn't have ranked it near this low.
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MycroProcessor
12/11/18 9:20:09 PM
129
265th
Game: Yoku's Island Express
Title: Yoku Taidua and the Village
Composer: Jesse Harlin
Nominator: tazzyboyishere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB9FAZ1CLds" data-time="


On the opposite end of the spectrum from "Splatterhouse 2"...this one being low is actually almost purely "this is too happy and i am an edgy person"

this is one that's definitely a prime example of "I barely 'dislike' it" so it's near the top of the orange tier.

some typical problems i have with this of course are a really repetitive simple chord progression that happens to not be one that speaks to me (aggressively cheerful I-I-IV-V), and not THAt much else going on to compliment it, but in this case, i think there is enough subtle stuff constantly going on that it doesn't feel particularly offensive to me. It also has occasional moments that deviate from that and they actually are given a lot of impact because of how simple the basis is. Really love the chord change at 2:42, that's definitely my favorite part of the song

My other fav part is the rim knock at like :15 doing solid evenly spaced triplets against the shuffle feel everything else. I always love rhythmic "comparisons" like that, layering completely different feels within the same space on top of each other. this is an extremely random detail that most people probably don't even think about or notice (and it's not even THAT rhythmically unique or anything) BUT that moment makes me like this a lot more than I would otherwise

I also like how it makes me NOSTALGAIc for "The Tokens - The Lion Sleeps Tonight" even though if that was a video game song I discovered in 2018 instead of a song i've known since my earliest memories I would probably hate it (I like this song more than that song, for the record).

I don't really HATE "happy music" (some of my top tier favorite nominations from this topic are even more cheerful than this) but i'm definitely pickier about it than music intended to evoke darker emotions so when it's mostly really straightforward it's going to get low.

I DEFINITELY do not hate like, tropical island feeling music either, I LOVE that actually. Super Mario Sunshine is one of my favorite games because of that atmosphere, and Pokemon Sun/Moon's one of my favorite pokemon soundtracks and that definitely contributes to why. So it really just to me depends all on how it's presented and in this case I do not like it.

Anyways this is a game I actually have wanted to play ever since I heard about it. I don't dislike this song enough to think it'd detract from my enjoyment much at all (might even wind up thinking this is funner after acclimating to it in context). but an animal character in METROIDVANIA...PINBALL? sounds perfect to my tastes. I Have too many games in my backlog so I doubt I'll get around to playing it any time soon, but it has definitely been on my list of games to play for quite a while.
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MC_XD
12/12/18 12:50:37 AM
130
I was legit considering nominating that song at one point briefly. Glad I didn't.

Big RIP though, I really like it :(
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SuperNiceDog
12/12/18 2:30:07 AM
131
sounds like a beach day song
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azuarc
12/12/18 11:18:09 AM
132
I dunno about the trombone part, but the rest of that song's pretty cool. I'd definitely have to be in the right mood to listen to it, though.
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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 5:28:05 PM
133
264th
Game: LitteBigPlanet 2
Title: Sleepyhead
Composer: Passion Pit
Nominator: DragonImps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHEWozeAb8" data-time="


I really thought I was going to love this because the first few seconds is amazingly aurally bizarre. I'm a pretty big fan of the audio production and instrumentation on this tune, but compositionally I despise it.

- - - aspects of HATRED - - -
Oh No THere Is normal people CLAPPING and the official music video for this song even SHOWS clapping so you can not just say it is a "whip"

hate the rhythm of the SINGY person going aaaahh ah ah aahhah ah ah ah ahahah it's all waay too gridded to the quarter note beats like 1-2& 3-4& 1&2&3 and sounds like a KINDERGARTEN music class song to me esp(and everything's going to the beat)ecially because it does not use very many of the notes that exist and it kind of emphasizes the exact ones that make it too "happy" (oh yeah that thing again).

It sounds like the song "mary o'hara - r Mo Bhidn" and that song is somehow a lot less dumb sounding to me than this and I guess it's just because in the original form more layers become clear than just [melodic line that with no other context is really SMALL], but the original sample here feels way more dramatic. Wish there was a better blend of that original sample with this because then maybe I'd like it a bit more, but I guess this is just harmed a ton by the how empty the kick drum/clap forced on top of this are and the other super to-the-grid looped stuff over it

the synth line at 1:20 is so stupid sounding to me it has an even worse problem than the vocals with "it doesn't use enough of the notes that exist " or something, something about focusing so much on the "SAFE" scale degrees (well particularly 3rd and 5th which like the vocal part make it sound TOO HAPPY because it makes 'major triad') just makes this feel very CHILDREN SONG idk this is a problem I have with the majority of """indie pop (genre)""" music it all sounds like preschool song to me

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i LOVE the random single 3/4 bar at 2:31 thank you

like I mentioned the glitchy feeling intro, but in addition there's other similar sporadic weird sampling stuff going on that I think is pretty cool sounding. the weird vocal sample that gets panned around the speakers is really fun neat cool

The the

even though I just complained above about the original sample kind of losing its impact when put in this context, I like how incomprehensible this sped up version makes the harp sound feel it's very TRIPY it feels like WIND CHIMES echoing through my mind and reminds me of "stained glass" except in modern video game with excessive motion blur
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Also I swear I've heard this before outside of the context of VGM (I'm aware it is originally not vgm so I probably have)

Oh wow there's some other licensed music in this game that I'm a big fan of actually

(Ryksopp - Vision One is an old favorite of mine, was a big fan of Ryksopp at the time in 2009 when it came out (around when I started being active on board 8! so it makes me nostalgic for that early period of my activity here) weird to hear an instrumental version of it but I welcome it)

(Plaid - New Family?!?!?!1? wtf I am really surprised that song is in this game lol I'm a huge fan of that specific song a lot too, Plaid was one of my favorite "idm" artists for a while and that was the first album by them I bought I think ? ? and that was definitely one of my favorites from that album)

(and SQUAREPUSHER?!?! man whoever selected the music for this game had really cool music taste imo, even if I hate this passion pit sleepyhead choice)
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/18 5:36:52 PM
134
aww, i love sleepyhead :-/

i'm not surprised by the "it's too boring/happy/etc." complaints, but personally i just love the super '80s synthpop aesthetic of the song (as well as the whole album this song is from, manners).
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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 5:40:03 PM
135
I feel like I might wind up liking other music by passion pit, since like I said I loved the aesthetic of the song, just not the composition, but that one definitely does not do it for me

though i looked up some of their other stuff and wasn't a fan so maybe not
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/18 5:52:13 PM
136
yeah, i love manners but i don't think the other songs on it deviate much from what sleepyhead is. rather boring compositions so if you're unable to overlook that (which is the case, knowing you!!) you probably won't enjoy it (in spite of its aesthetic).

i do remember not liking their second album, gossamer, though - from what i remember it was way less blatantly "cheesy '80s" than manners. lost interest in passion pit then and didn't bother to check out the albums they made after that.
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DragonImps
12/12/18 5:58:29 PM
137
Yeah, I figured that wouldnt rank very high. Sleepyhead wasnt as bizarre as Id remembered it, but I tried to think of something weird than some people around here might notve heard before, and just stuck with that.

Im guessing that Chopscrewey is also pretty low for similar reasons. I nommed that just because I love it, a lot more than Sleepyhead.
azuarc
12/12/18 6:47:06 PM
138
Sleepyhead was interesting. I didn't love it or hate it, but I thought Mycro would appreciate it a little more than that. Or maybe that just speaks to the quality of the list, since several times Mycro has sworn up and down that this is the case.
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pyresword
12/12/18 6:55:11 PM
139
Well I have generally not liked the songs that have fallen on this list which I've listened to (which is admittedly only like half of them). That means this is going better for me than most Mycro lists, since we haven't dropped like ten of my favorite songs already. >.>

Anyways uh I didn't listen to all of Sleepyhead but that style of vocals is one that just gets an immediate "nope" from me. Would probably rank even lower if this were my list, unless it gets noticeably better in the second half.
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Place
12/12/18 7:18:53 PM
140
Some years ago, I met a guy who was really into groups like Passion Pit and Arcade Fire. For all the years I knew him, I tried desperately to convince myself that the music was as good as he said, listening to stuff like Manners over and over again to see if there was something I'd missed.

This track doesn't hold up. Maybe it's really out there as far as (((mainstream))) indie pop goes, but it hits on all of those same beats, breaking up the monotony with a handful of cool sounds or samples or whatever.

MycroProcessor posted...
actually after the ranking is finished, planning on going through all of the noms people changed last minute or stuff people said they "almost nominated but cut in favor of something else" at the very end, and showing where in the ranking they would've placed had they been in it

Oh hey, if you're serious about this can I throw down a few tracks from my shortlist? I seriously built a playlist called 'for mycro' with like 15 songs and ended up using none of them
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NFUN
12/12/18 7:22:49 PM
141
arcade fire sucks donkey dong
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Mr Lasastryke
12/12/18 7:25:56 PM
142
NFUN posted...
arcade fire sucks donkey dong


man, this is almost as bad as your "vaporwave sucks" take
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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 7:25:57 PM
143
Place posted...
Oh hey, if you're serious about this can I throw down a few tracks from my shortlist? I seriously built a playlist called 'for mycro' with like 15 songs and ended up using none of them

yes please do this! I obviously wont get to this until the end and my writeups will be nowhere near as detailed (if even existent) for all the cut stuff but I do plan to point out where in the rankings they would've landed at least
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jcgamer107
12/12/18 7:26:43 PM
144
Wow excuse me Wake Up is a classic
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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 10:32:54 PM
145
263rd
Game: Kirby Triple Deluxe
Title: Sullied Grace
Composer: Jun Ishikawa
Nominator: hombad46
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I absolutely LOVE kirby music as a whole, definitely one of my top favorite "which well known video game franchise has your favorite music" video game series for music.

I tend to like Jun Ishikawa specifically the most out of all the Kirby composers too (though it's a close contest), but this is like one of my least favorite Kirby songs I can remember even existing?

this is kind of like the same genre as the splatterhouse 2 one of just like "the extremely cheesy side of halloween music" or at least something i interpret that way, something i'd like in theory but does absolutely everything it can to make sure that i do not like it

Rhythmically this is VERY simple throughout (and this is my main problem with this one),

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harmonically it is at least vaguely interesting to me at a few parts? the suddenness of the chord change at :31 is really cool, like everything is really predictable up to that point (which I don't like) but when that part happens the prior simplicity acts as a cool contrast to make that moment GOld . . . .at least to me, i have no idea if anyone else would even react to that specific moment as feeling significant at all. every chord change up to that point shares at least 1 (usually 2) of the same notes as the previous chord which is too EASY to follow so I DOnt like it, but that part has NONE of the same notes as the previous chord . . .WOW~! what a BIRTHDAy\\...but THEN it fixes itself and the has this really unenthusiastic dump back to a more normal voicing of the same chord that the progression started with and then loops, how UNDERWHELMING

The very beginning also has some mildly interesting directional unexpectedness. It starts out feeling like a typical minor scale but the after 6 notes it suddenly kind of re-purposes how you view it all (really it modulates the tonal center down a half step but since there's nothing going on there it just feels like the scale is going cool weird places...I mean it's basically just a generic diminished scale which is pretty typical halloween music thing (though a thing I usually like, including in this case!) but I AM JUST Looking for things i slightly like to talk about here and kind of grasp1ng for straws)

Anyways ye_AH this feels TOO MUCH like surface level imitation of "what classical music sounds like" without actually even having any of the elements that make classical music interesting imo. and then they have to make it worse by putting BORING EPIC GUITAR on top of the chord changes you already know from before and fuck these drums they are way too plain what the FUCK NIN TENDO > : ( WHERES MY COOL DRUMS KIRBY MUSIC USUALLY HAS COOL DRUMS. really do not like 2:06's FAST organ part either it sounds like a "Touhou Joke" especially because it has the Girl Laughing just like that one remix of UN Owen Was Her that was more popular than the actual song for a long time but I would rather listen to UN Owen Was Her, thank you.

this whole song just screams """ROCK REMIX""" (made by 9 year old whos legal name is xXxXx666EPICVIDEOGAMEREMIXMASTER666xXxXx) of some random song that I do not even like in the first place (ie this song except without the drums/guitar), or something

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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 10:32:57 PM
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[...continued]

Also the audio production is .. . . . .REALLY bad in my opinion, and I usually think that modern kirby music's audio production is MIND BLOWING mind blowingly good, even within this game. the instrumentation in concept isn't the problem but these specific patch choices and reverb/everything what the JUICE are you ON this is so GROSS it sounds like ................................"new grounds" and it feels weird to say that about music by the same composer who has done some of my favorite music in terms of audio production (and composition) in any video game music of all time ever

This sounds like the kind of song fl81 and nfun (they are the same person because their usernames both have 4 letters in them) would like. in fact NFun used this in a LIST (except by the name "Dirty & Beauty") and I did NOT get it even though I know Kirby music pretty well generally! That is probably because I never listen to this song 0ut of every song in this game i could possibly be listening to because I do not like this song but i like most of the othe5r ones

The main reason this song gets "TOP song in the ORANGE ZONE" is because even if it fits the definition of [disliking it enough that i'd rather listen to silence]........there's one really, really cool part in this to me that really bumps this up for me: the 5+6+5 rhythm in the organ at 3:30...I mean that is not even THAT interesting of a rhythm but for whatever reason it's really gripping to me, really attracted to any rhythmic grouping that has moments broken down more in 5 16th note beats rather than something more even, probably attracted to "fast groups of 5" more than any other possible number of beats a thing in a rhythm could be grouped by actually? ? In this case it actually does feel like something only ishikawa would do and if any other composer tried to write something the same style as this nothing like that would be in it.

other reasons this is above the other red/orange zone stuff is that also on an initial listen a lot of the chord changes are vaguely unpredictable ish like I said so that's another Big Plus + + + + + + also "it is dark" so it is surface level appeasing to me in that sense

anyways bye orange zone, fitting that the youtube video for the last song in it has an ORANGE BACKGROUND

[EXITING ORANGE ZONE]
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Zyxyz0
12/12/18 10:37:15 PM
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yay for all my songs surviving the bottom tiers!
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xp1337
12/12/18 10:39:17 PM
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i survived another tier! hooray!

I'm not sure that'll be true this time. I was sweating it out at the end of this one!
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-hotdogturtle--
12/12/18 10:40:21 PM
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I do like that song, but the Sectonia laughing clips aren't part of the actual song. Some of the rips online have that in there; I'm not sure if it came from one of the OST releases or if someone just added them in themselves. But in the game it's just a regular song (you'll hear voices over it as you play but they're from the characters) and there is a clean rip available too.
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MycroProcessor
12/12/18 10:47:20 PM
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so FINALLY out of the Red and Orange zones so now we are onto songs that I would rather listen to than silence!

hopefully this means i'll be motivated to do this faster since i won't have to be listening to a song I would rather not have to be listening to!

I think the writeups will be abruptly far more positive from here on, at least on average (there's definitely of course sporadic negative things I'll have to say about random songs or parts/aspects of songs). though the yellow zone will honestly probably be the most boring to read since it's mostly the stuff I'm INDIFFERENT to and only gets above these low tier ones because "well...i'd rather listen to this than listen to nothing i guess"

-hotdogturtle-- posted...
I do like that song, but the Sectonia laughing clips aren't part of the actual song. Some of the rips online have that in there; I'm not sure if it came from one of the OST releases or if someone just added them in themselves. But in the game it's just a regular song (you'll hear voices over it as you play but they're from the characters) and there is a clean rip available too.

that's actually kind of disappointing lol. I kind of liked that being in there even if I wasn't clear about that
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