Poll of the Day > Gamestop is in the red. $488 million loss.

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HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?

I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...

If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...

Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.

Sure. But that also wouldnt happen. I open it before getting home in some cases. And there wouldn't be a game I dont get around to playing. I will play it. Normally, the same day. So, no. I would want a sealed copy. Another reason it wouldnt matter is because I dont sell my games. Ever. So, a sealed copy would be useless. And if I somehow had a game that I didnt get around to playing (which again has never and will never happen, physically, at least), when I found it, the first thing I would do is open and play it.

In the end, the only reason I get a game is to play it. I know other people have other reasons for some reason. And in those cases, you asked for a sealed copy, of thats your thing. But its not my thing. If Im paying for a game, its because I want to play a game.
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LinkPizza posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?

I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...

If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...

Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.

Sure. But that also wouldnt happen. I open it before getting home in some cases. And there wouldn't be a game I dont get around to playing. I will play it. Normally, the same day. So, no. I would want a sealed copy. Another reason it wouldnt matter is because I dont sell my games. Ever. So, a sealed copy would be useless. And if I somehow had a game that I didnt get around to playing (which again has never and will never happen, physically, at least), when I found it, the first thing I would do is open and play it.

That's great, but I think you're missing the point of the hypothetical.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?

I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...

If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...

Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.

Sure. But that also wouldnt happen. I open it before getting home in some cases. And there wouldn't be a game I dont get around to playing. I will play it. Normally, the same day. So, no. I would want a sealed copy. Another reason it wouldnt matter is because I dont sell my games. Ever. So, a sealed copy would be useless. And if I somehow had a game that I didnt get around to playing (which again has never and will never happen, physically, at least), when I found it, the first thing I would do is open and play it.

That's great, but I think you're missing the point of the hypothetical.

I can understand the hypothetical. I just dont waste money. Nor do I sell games. So, the hypothetical means that it wouldnt matter if it was sealed or not. Either its sealed and I played. Or unsealed and unplayed. I dont sell my games, so whether its sealed or not wouldnt matter.
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I won't lie, I like their clearance rack of trinkets when the additional 50% sale is going on.
If they go under, I will miss that section.
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I still have a mint condition SMT:N and the Double jump guide that I got at GameStop forever ago...someday, lol...and a mint Raidou Kuzunoha 2 with the Raiho Plushie.

How the hell has the 3rd Devil Summoner game never made it over to the states?
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LinkPizza posted...

I can understand the hypothetical. I just dont waste money. Nor do I sell games. So, the hypothetical means that it wouldnt matter if it was sealed or not. Either its sealed and I played. Or unsealed and unplayed. I dont sell my games, so whether its sealed or not wouldnt matter.

Well, no, the point isn't to theorize the likelihood of the scenario happening to you. The point is to explore your preferential end result. You say it doesn't matter either way because you won't ever sell it, but surely there is some price point where you would? What if the sealed game was valuable enough to sell and buy the same game, but used, plus one or two other games?

I've never sold any of my games either, but it's great knowing that I have a ton of valuable ones should I ever need or want to. I remember a few years ago, a guy who previously thought he'd never get rid of his collection finally did for $100k or $200k and bought a house for his new family.
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Who the hell drops that kind of money? Like others say it's good to know my collection has value, but in the end it's only worth what someone will pay. For now I'm not selling, I like these things.

DPsx7 posted...

How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

There is physical damage from that sticker they place on the case. Open-new would be bullshit enough without that sticker.

Zangulus posted...

My favorite part about the people bitching about getting "open copies" of new games... is that they still bought them. (If you didn't, obviously you're not apart of this group, genius.)

First off, if they didn't, then they *would* be apart of (or rather apart from) that group >_>

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/apart-vs-a-part/

Second, you can still bitch about an annoyance even if you willingly participate in it. I complain about CT non-stop yet I choose to live here instead of moving to a non-frigid-hellhole of a state whose economy isn't on life support and which didn't just elect a governor who, in all likelihood, may be a step down from Dan fucking Malloy. Likewise, the McDonald's closest to my home is terrible but when I'm driving home after everything else is closed, I'm kinda stuck doing that or waiting to eat until I get home. The fact that we participate in awful things doesn't give a free pass for being awful, even if we contribute to the problem. And, honestly, unless enough taxpayers move out of CT and the state collapses under the weight of its immense fiscal irresponsibility, individuals won't make much of a difference.

While it's rare for me to buy new-open (and, in fact, that's often been a deal-breaker), there have been a few times when I've done it for convenience and it still annoys me that it's a practice.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?

I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...

If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...

Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.

Sure. But that also wouldnt happen. I open it before getting home in some cases. And there wouldn't be a game I dont get around to playing. I will play it. Normally, the same day. So, no. I would want a sealed copy. Another reason it wouldnt matter is because I dont sell my games. Ever. So, a sealed copy would be useless. And if I somehow had a game that I didnt get around to playing (which again has never and will never happen, physically, at least), when I found it, the first thing I would do is open and play it.

That's great, but I think you're missing the point of the hypothetical.

Your hypothetical is ridiculous.

Even when I buy games I don't plan to play for a long time (it happens...got like 12-15 early this year and I still have 5 of them left to play), I ALWAYS open the game when I get home and pop it in, to make sure the game will load and has no immediate issues, before the mfg. warranty expires on it.

I don't buy games to put them on a display shelf. I buy games to play games. Everyone (aside from you, apparently) buys games to play them.

Zeus posted...

Second, you can still bitch about an annoyance even if you willingly participate in it. I complain about CT non-stop yet I choose to live here instead of moving to a non-frigid-hellhole of a state whose economy isn't on life support and which didn't just elect a governor who, in all likelihood, may be a step down from Dan fucking Malloy.

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And, honestly, unless enough taxpayers move out of CT and the state collapses under the weight of its immense fiscal irresponsibility, individuals won't make much of a difference.

Just saying Zeus, CT isn't far from that point already. Case in point, when I moved out of CT back in 2011, Stamford had a population of over 350k. Now the number is something like 85k. I don't see how the state can remain solvent for long at the rate things are going if that is any indication of things statewide.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

I can understand the hypothetical. I just dont waste money. Nor do I sell games. So, the hypothetical means that it wouldnt matter if it was sealed or not. Either its sealed and I played. Or unsealed and unplayed. I dont sell my games, so whether its sealed or not wouldnt matter.

Well, no, the point isn't to theorize the likelihood of the scenario happening to you. The point is to explore your preferential end result. You say it doesn't matter either way because you won't ever sell it, but surely there is some price point where you would? What if the sealed game was valuable enough to sell and buy the same game, but used, plus one or two other games?

I've never sold any of my games either, but it's great knowing that I have a ton of valuable ones should I ever need or want to. I remember a few years ago, a guy who previously thought he'd never get rid of his collection finally did for $100k or $200k and bought a house for his new family.

No. Not really. I wouldnt. I always say things like I could sell it for a lot. But Id wimp out and not sell it. For many reasons. Also, like streamofthesky said, I usually open my games to try when get home...
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streamofthesky posted...

Your hypothetical is ridiculous.

Even when I buy games I don't plan to play for a long time (it happens...got like 12-15 early this year and I still have 5 of them left to play), I ALWAYS open the game when I get home and pop it in, to make sure the game will load and has no immediate issues, before the mfg. warranty expires on it.

I don't buy games to put them on a display shelf. I buy games to play games. Everyone (aside from you, apparently) buys games to play them.

No, what's ridiculous is you apparently think I'm the sole supporter of the collector's market. I buy games to both play and collect and the hypothetical has happened to me probably a couple hundred times, but it's probably not happened to me several hundred times more than that, meaning I have hundreds more of opened and played games than sealed ones. Backlogs are common and when the time comes when I'm ready to pull an old one out, I'm going to either buy a used copy or a digital one if the difference in value is enough.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Zeus posted...

Second, you can still bitch about an annoyance even if you willingly participate in it. I complain about CT non-stop yet I choose to live here instead of moving to a non-frigid-hellhole of a state whose economy isn't on life support and which didn't just elect a governor who, in all likelihood, may be a step down from Dan fucking Malloy.

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And, honestly, unless enough taxpayers move out of CT and the state collapses under the weight of its immense fiscal irresponsibility, individuals won't make much of a difference.

Just saying Zeus, CT isn't far from that point already. Case in point, when I moved out of CT back in 2011, Stamford had a population of over 350k. Now the number is something like 85k. I don't see how the state can remain solvent for long at the rate things are going if that is any indication of things statewide.

Oo

Where are you finding those population numbers? Every source I've checked shows that the population is growing rather than shrinking and I'm seeing anywhere from 125-128k for the current population.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/stamford-ct-population/
https://population.us/ct/stamford/

streamofthesky posted...

Your hypothetical is ridiculous.

Even when I buy games I don't plan to play for a long time (it happens...got like 12-15 early this year and I still have 5 of them left to play), I ALWAYS open the game when I get home and pop it in, to make sure the game will load and has no immediate issues, before the mfg. warranty expires on it.

I don't buy games to put them on a display shelf. I buy games to play games. Everyone (aside from you, apparently) buys games to play them.

That seems silly. I've never opened games just to test them. If I can't get around to it, they stay shrinkwrapped in case I do someday get rid of them instead of playing them. Rule of Rose, for instance, has gone up in price since I bought it. Honestly, I might just sell the damn thing instead of ever playing it. Possibly the same for Haunting Ground, but it's not worth as much apparently.
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Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...
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LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

@LinkPizza

Because in many cases I buy them because they're cheap AND stuff that I know I will play....eventually. Yet the past couple of gens I mostly bought these games because they were cheap and amassed such a backlog that I could quit buying new consoles after this gen (which I might anyway) and have enough to play for the rest of my lifetime.

I just couldn't stop myself from buying games last gen when I was getting them for $2-5 in many cases. Best find ever though was a Little Big Planet GOTY edition bundle that included a Dualshock 3 for $1.99 from a now closed Kmart about 20-25 miles from me. Same store also had TWO Resistance 1 & 2 bundles with Dualshock 3's for $6 apiece as well AND a God Of War Origins (aka PSP prequels on PS3) & Dualshock 3 bundle for $30.
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I just guess some people do that. I personally couldnt. Even buying all those, I would have played at least a little of each.
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I think I still have a sealed PS2 copy of Persona 4 because I wasn't playing PS2 at the time I bought it.
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LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Everything I buy I intended to play. In some cases it takes so long I change my mind. I bought Fallout 3 along with Uncharted so many years ago. At the time I didn't have the mouse so F3 sat and sat. I got more games and never found the time for F3. A couple games I bought like Furi or Sky Force Anniversary became freebies before I opened the disc so those didn't need to be opened.

Because I buy games only on sale I'm usually way behind everyone else. It goes on the backlog which I whittle down while waiting for the next batch of discounted software.

They still have EB-only editions of games, so... for collectors like myself it'd be great if they stayed.
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LinkPizza posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

LinkPizza posted...

I can understand the hypothetical. I just dont waste money. Nor do I sell games. So, the hypothetical means that it wouldnt matter if it was sealed or not. Either its sealed and I played. Or unsealed and unplayed. I dont sell my games, so whether its sealed or not wouldnt matter.

Well, no, the point isn't to theorize the likelihood of the scenario happening to you. The point is to explore your preferential end result. You say it doesn't matter either way because you won't ever sell it, but surely there is some price point where you would? What if the sealed game was valuable enough to sell and buy the same game, but used, plus one or two other games?

I've never sold any of my games either, but it's great knowing that I have a ton of valuable ones should I ever need or want to. I remember a few years ago, a guy who previously thought he'd never get rid of his collection finally did for $100k or $200k and bought a house for his new family.

No. Not really. I wouldnt. I always say things like I could sell it for a lot. But Id wimp out and not sell it. For many reasons. Also, like streamofthesky said, I usually open my games to try when get home...

I do have one unopened game perhaps worth something. Case of my grandmother bought me a game I already had. The plastic wrap and Box is a little beat up but it's still obvious the game has never been opened. Super Mario world for snes
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mooreandrew58 posted...

I do have one unopened game perhaps worth something. Case of my grandmother bought me a game I already had. The plastic wrap and Box is a little beat up but it's still obvious the game has never been opened. Super Mario world for snes

Nice. https://www.pricecharting.com/game/super-nintendo/super-mario-world

Almost $400.
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HelIWithoutSin posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

I do have one unopened game perhaps worth something. Case of my grandmother bought me a game I already had. The plastic wrap and Box is a little beat up but it's still obvious the game has never been opened. Super Mario world for snes

Nice. https://www.pricecharting.com/game/super-nintendo/super-mario-world

Almost $400.

Probably less for me considering the box is beat up and there are tears in the plastic. I got it as a kid so I didn't exactly take the best care of it.
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LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.
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Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

I've bought plenty of games it took me a long time to get to, buy I always get to them. Only exceptions I can think of is on the 360 I bought banjo kazooie and re4 and never got past the first hour in. Same with manhunt on PS4 but I do plan to get around to it as I've never beat it unlike the two on 360

Re4 just didn't age well imo. And with banjo I had been browsing games drunk and it struck me right in my nostalgia
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

I've bought plenty of games it took me a long time to get to, buy I always get to them. Only exceptions I can think of is on the 360 I bought banjo kazooie and re4 and never got past the first hour in. Same with manhunt on PS4 but I do plan to get around to it as I've never beat it unlike the two on 360

Re4 just didn't age well imo. And with banjo I had been browsing games drunk and it struck me right in my nostalgia

But it still sounds like you played them a little...

Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

Im an adult and have only Sunday off. And not every Sunday as I have a second job. I still have time to play every game Ibe bought. I just dont buy 1000 games that I dont think Ill play because they were 99 each... Ill buy games on sale when I see them. But then I make sure to play them... Even a little. Then Ill either finish it. Or finish the other game I started and finish the new one after...
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LinkPizza posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

I've bought plenty of games it took me a long time to get to, buy I always get to them. Only exceptions I can think of is on the 360 I bought banjo kazooie and re4 and never got past the first hour in. Same with manhunt on PS4 but I do plan to get around to it as I've never beat it unlike the two on 360

Re4 just didn't age well imo. And with banjo I had been browsing games drunk and it struck me right in my nostalgia

But it still sounds like you played them a little...

Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

Im an adult and have only Sunday off. And not every Sunday as I have a second job. I still have time to play every game Ibe bought. I just dont buy 1000 games that I dont think Ill play because they were 99 each... Ill buy games on sale when I see them. But then I make sure to play them... Even a little. Then Ill either finish it. Or finish the other game I started and finish the new one after...

Yeah I did play them a little those 3 where all digital copies so there was no sealed vs unsealed.

Only game I bought with my own money and considered not opening was a day one copy of final fantasy Xv I managed to get a year after its release. Then it was another year before I got around to opening and playing it (friend spoiled something for me and killed my mood to play it)
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LinkPizza posted...

I just guess some people do that. I personally couldnt. Even buying all those, I would have played at least a little of each.

@LinkPizza

I did that a bunch last gen, where I'd install the smaller amount of files required and then play a bit and put the game aside to try something different. Although in many cases I went back to GTA IV's online and later on RDR and/or GTA Online on the PS3.

But at least last gen you could have 20 games on your HDD without the whole drive being filled. I just rented Just Cause 4 earlier today and I had to delete 2-3 games to be able to play it due to the full installs being 40-60 GB's or more.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Zeus posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Well, adulthood sometimes sucks.

I've bought plenty of games it took me a long time to get to, buy I always get to them. Only exceptions I can think of is on the 360 I bought banjo kazooie and re4 and never got past the first hour in. Same with manhunt on PS4 but I do plan to get around to it as I've never beat it unlike the two on 360

Re4 just didn't age well imo. And with banjo I had been browsing games drunk and it struck me right in my nostalgia

I want to get to them eventually (most of them anyway), but I have a pretty massive backlog.

LinkPizza posted...

Im an adult and have only Sunday off. And not every Sunday as I have a second job. I still have time to play every game Ibe bought. I just dont buy 1000 games that I dont think Ill play because they were 99 each... Ill buy games on sale when I see them. But then I make sure to play them... Even a little. Then Ill either finish it. Or finish the other game I started and finish the new one after...

Honestly, sales were a part of it -- although I'm never paying just 99-cents because this isn't Steam -- and, in those cases, I'm buying a bunch at a time where I can't reasonably expect to play everything. I picked up the vanilla version of Skyrim (among other things) from a Sears clearance bin, right around the time I had ordered -- but not yet received -- Pokemon Moon (or maybe Pokemon Y? Can't remember). I wound up playing Skyrim for several months thereafter.

For the most part, I like being able to devote sufficient time and attention to games (and many tv shows/movies) so I'll delay until I have a chunk of time to spend.
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