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Cyrlous 12/08/18 12:58:31 AM #302:	MalcolmMasher posted... I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. If an American became aware of foreign attacks upon fellow Americans, and chose to use this information for personal advantage rather than alerting the American authorities and their countrymen of the threat, then their actions are morally reprehensible. But not necessarily illegal. --- The official Ghoul of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board <cite>Cyrlous posted [p:913753143] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>MalcolmMasher posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. If an American became aware of foreign attacks upon fellow Americans, and chose to use this information for personal advantage rather than alerting the American authorities and their countrymen of the threat, then their actions are morally reprehensible.</quote> But not necessarily illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/08/18 12:59:35 AM #303:	Cyrlous posted... Umitencho posted... red sox 777 posted... I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right? Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. Nelson_Mandela posted... LapisLazuli posted... I will correct you. I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583 "Russia reached out to Trump" I guess we'd better prosecute Russia then. Seriously, your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. In a heavily redacted court document filed Friday afternoon, Mueller and his team of prosecutors accused Manafort of lying about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime business associate whom the special counsel has identified as a former Russian intelligence officer. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/ Goes back further than that. Manafort has been compromised since 2005 & did more than just say hello with the Russian Spy. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/3/29/17177948/konstantin-kilimnik-manafort-mueller-trump-russia-intelligence https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/could-an-ex-russian-operative-and-an-imprisoned-escort-crack-open-the-trump-russia-case/ Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal. --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913753167] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cyrlous posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right?</quote> Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>I will correct you.</quote> I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter.</quote> https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583</quote> "Russia reached out to Trump" I guess we'd better prosecute Russia then. Seriously, your lack of reading comprehension is astounding.</quote> <quote>In a heavily redacted court document filed Friday afternoon, Mueller and his team of prosecutors accused Manafort of lying about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime business associate whom the special counsel has identified as a former Russian intelligence officer. </quote> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/ Goes back further than that. Manafort has been compromised since 2005 & did more than just say hello with the Russian Spy. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/3/29/17177948/konstantin-kilimnik-manafort-mueller-trump-russia-intelligence https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/could-an-ex-russian-operative-and-an-imprisoned-escort-crack-open-the-trump-russia-case/ Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/08/18 1:02:43 AM #304:	Cyrlous posted... MalcolmMasher posted... I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. If an American became aware of foreign attacks upon fellow Americans, and chose to use this information for personal advantage rather than alerting the American authorities and their countrymen of the threat, then their actions are morally reprehensible. But not necessarily illegal. It's called treason. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 Either way, it is not a good day for Trump. --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913753270] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cyrlous posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MalcolmMasher posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. If an American became aware of foreign attacks upon fellow Americans, and chose to use this information for personal advantage rather than alerting the American authorities and their countrymen of the threat, then their actions are morally reprehensible.</quote> But not necessarily illegal.</quote> It's called treason. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381 Either way, it is not a good day for Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 12/08/18 1:06:39 AM #305:	Yeah can we just stop responding to this Crylous guy. --- https://i.imgtc.com/mK6jyNa.png <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:913753398] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Yeah can we just stop responding to this Crylous guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cyrlous 12/08/18 1:16:05 AM #306:	Umitencho posted... Cyrlous posted... Umitencho posted... red sox 777 posted... I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right? Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. Nelson_Mandela posted... LapisLazuli posted... I will correct you. I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583 "Russia reached out to Trump" I guess we'd better prosecute Russia then. Seriously, your lack of reading comprehension is astounding. In a heavily redacted court document filed Friday afternoon, Mueller and his team of prosecutors accused Manafort of lying about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime business associate whom the special counsel has identified as a former Russian intelligence officer. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/ Goes back further than that. Manafort has been compromised since 2005 & did more than just say hello with the Russian Spy. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/3/29/17177948/konstantin-kilimnik-manafort-mueller-trump-russia-intelligence https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/could-an-ex-russian-operative-and-an-imprisoned-escort-crack-open-the-trump-russia-case/ Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal. Yeah, not. None of this is in the Mueller report. Nothing about Trump colluding with Russia, because it didn't happen. This whole farce has gone down in flames. --- The official Ghoul of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board <cite>Cyrlous posted [p:913753745] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cyrlous posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right?</quote> Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>I will correct you.</quote> I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter.</quote> https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583</quote> "Russia reached out to Trump" I guess we'd better prosecute Russia then. Seriously, your lack of reading comprehension is astounding.</quote> <quote>In a heavily redacted court document filed Friday afternoon, Mueller and his team of prosecutors accused Manafort of lying about his interactions with Konstantin Kilimnik, a longtime business associate whom the special counsel has identified as a former Russian intelligence officer. </quote> https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/ Goes back further than that. Manafort has been compromised since 2005 & did more than just say hello with the Russian Spy. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/3/29/17177948/konstantin-kilimnik-manafort-mueller-trump-russia-intelligence https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/could-an-ex-russian-operative-and-an-imprisoned-escort-crack-open-the-trump-russia-case/ Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal.</quote> Yeah, not. None of this is in the Mueller report. Nothing about Trump colluding with Russia, because it didn't happen. This whole farce has gone down in flames.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 12/08/18 1:43:16 AM #307:	Is it just me or does it feel like this guy is just lazily regurgitating other people's tweets? I'll be disappointed if this is MWC because at least he always had a personality before now. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:913754539] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Is it just me or does it feel like this guy is just lazily regurgitating other people's tweets? I'll be disappointed if this is MWC because at least he always had a personality before now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 12/08/18 1:46:47 AM #308:	It's probably just contest trash. --- https://i.imgtc.com/mK6jyNa.png <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:913754612] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>It's probably just contest trash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/08/18 2:02:08 AM #309:	Umitencho posted... Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal. Its remarkable that more people didnt see this as soon as they found those secret payments to Manafort by pro-Russian forces in Ukraine on that ledger like 2 years ago. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913755045] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote> Basically Manafort was the main vehicle that pushed Trump towards the Russians, and rather than fire his ass and report him to the FBI for basically being an Russian asset, the campaign embraced all the help it could get, legal or illegal. </quote> Its remarkable that more people didnt see this as soon as they found those secret payments to Manafort by pro-Russian forces in Ukraine on that ledger like 2 years ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/08/18 3:25:28 AM #310:	https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1071177621445230596?s=21 Totally clears the President. Thank you! Now whoever this Individual 1 character is, hes in some real deep trouble! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913757089] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1071177621445230596?s=21 <quote>Totally clears the President. Thank you!</quote> Now whoever this Individual 1 character is, hes in some real deep trouble!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/08/18 9:56:18 AM #311:	kevwaffles posted... Is it just me or does it feel like this guy is just lazily regurgitating other people's tweets? I'll be disappointed if this is MWC because at least he always had a personality before now. Yeah I'll also be disappointed if this is mwc. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:913765362] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>kevwaffles posted...</cite> <quote>Is it just me or does it feel like this guy is just lazily regurgitating other people's tweets? I'll be disappointed if this is MWC because at least he always had a personality before now.</quote> Yeah I'll also be disappointed if this is mwc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nelson_Mandela 12/08/18 10:24:22 AM #312:	Umitencho posted... red sox 777 posted... I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right? Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. Nelson_Mandela posted... LapisLazuli posted... I will correct you. I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583 That's not collusion though. Collusion is willfully working with a foreign government to influence the election. I get that Trump likely committed a crime by violating campaign finance laws, but I've yet to see anything to show that he (directly or by giving orders to Manafort) was colluding with Russia. And if the biggest thing that comes out of this is that he used campaign money as hush money for women trying to blackmail him without disclosure (which is really what makes it illegal), then I think that is a gray area at best. One could make the argument that you cannot disclose those payments without in a sense exposing yourself to their extortive purposes. I dunno man, it seems like all they really have on him is a technicality of violating a law that seems borderline unconstitutional in the first place. --- "A more mature answer than I expected."~ Jakyl25 "Sephy's point is right."~ Inviso <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted [p:913766329] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't understand why it matters if they worked with Russia. Our politicians work with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom, etc. daily. We are not at war with Russia. Maybe the best ending to this is the Supreme Court finds that our laws against foreign collusion are unconstitutional for violating the 1st Amendment for freedom of association and freedom of speech. They already said money is speech, right?</quote> Colluding with Foreign Nations to manipulate the outcome of the American elections is illegal. We aren't talking about simple statements of giving a candidate vocal support, we are talking about hacking opposition communications, ect. As far as the money goes, the money is meant to come from American citizens, when you have a foreign nation pouring in lots of money into a candidate's election, there is a chance he isn't even thinking about the constituents who aligns with their views let alone the nation that they have to govern as a whole. If you are ok with another nation having a bigger voice in America's domestic policy than the citizenry, and ok with opposition candidates being hacked by foreign nations(sorry no amount of cash is gonna protect a candidate from state sponsored hacking from nations like Russia) then I have nothing to say. Also, you might want to research the Supreme Court a bit. As much as they have expanded the 1st Amendment, they have put limitations on it. <cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>I will correct you.</quote> I'm not even kidding. Please point me to anything implicating Russian collusion. I am only seeing the campaign finance stuff on Twitter.</quote> https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/special-counsel-mueller-filing-russia-reached-trump-campaign-59689583</quote> That's not collusion though. Collusion is willfully working with a foreign government to influence the election. I get that Trump likely committed a crime by violating campaign finance laws, but I've yet to see anything to show that he (directly or by giving orders to Manafort) was colluding with Russia. And if the biggest thing that comes out of this is that he used campaign money as hush money for women trying to blackmail him without disclosure (which is really what makes it illegal), then I think that is a gray area at best. One could make the argument that you cannot disclose those payments without in a sense exposing yourself to their extortive purposes. I dunno man, it seems like all they really have on him is a technicality of violating a law that seems borderline unconstitutional in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/08/18 11:00:51 AM #313:	Theres also the obstruction of justice and the witness tampering --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913767712] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Theres also the obstruction of justice and the witness tampering</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/08/18 11:03:43 AM #314:	Nelson_Mandela posted... That's not collusion though. Collusion is willfully working with a foreign government to influence the election. I get that Trump likely committed a crime by violating campaign finance laws, but I've yet to see anything to show that he (directly or by giving orders to Manafort) was colluding with Russia. Also I hope youre saying this in the beyond a reasonable doubt sense, because I feel like youd have to be pretty ignorant to not have a pretty strong sense of what was happening --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913767829] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nelson_Mandela posted...</cite> <quote> That's not collusion though. Collusion is willfully working with a foreign government to influence the election. I get that Trump likely committed a crime by violating campaign finance laws, but I've yet to see anything to show that he (directly or by giving orders to Manafort) was colluding with Russia.</quote> Also I hope youre saying this in the beyond a reasonable doubt sense, because I feel like youd have to be pretty ignorant to not have a pretty strong sense of what was happening</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/08/18 11:06:10 AM #315:	Also there are the very clear ties from the Trump campaign to Wikileaks, and when you combine that with the very clear ties from Wikileaks to Russia, its pretty damning IMO. Just not sure if its damning enough in a criminal court sense --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913767925] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Also there are the very clear ties from the Trump campaign to Wikileaks, and when you combine that with the very clear ties from Wikileaks to Russia, its pretty damning IMO. Just not sure if its damning enough in a criminal court sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/08/18 11:38:31 AM #316:	From the point of view of what should be, not what the law is right now, I don't think anything we've found is half as clear as Trump's own tweet asking for Putin to release Hillary's emails (which he could only have obtained through successful spying). That's right out in the open. We should make up our minds on whether that is okay or not. I really don't see any difference between getting money from international corporations and foreign governments. Maybe one is legal but the other isn't, but that's a problem with the law. The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:913769161] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>From the point of view of what should be, not what the law is right now, I don't think anything we've found is half as clear as Trump's own tweet asking for Putin to release Hillary's emails (which he could only have obtained through successful spying). That's right out in the open. We should make up our minds on whether that is okay or not. I really don't see any difference between getting money from international corporations and foreign governments. Maybe one is legal but the other isn't, but that's a problem with the law. The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/08/18 11:49:55 AM #317:	red sox 777 posted... What about Hilary? Your boy just got caught & you still run back to Hilary, give it rest. --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913769600] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>What about Hilary?</quote> Your boy just got caught & you still run back to Hilary, give it rest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 12/08/18 11:55:19 AM #318:	There's really nothing that can make someone's stance look more worthless than an unironic "but her emails" defense. --- https://i.imgtc.com/mK6jyNa.png <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:913769833] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>There's really nothing that can make someone's stance look more worthless than an unironic "but her emails" defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 12/08/18 11:56:15 AM #319:	From the point of view of what should be, not what the law is right now, I don't think anything we've found is half as clear as Trump's own tweet asking for Putin to release Hillary's emails (which he could only have obtained through successful spying). That's right out in the open. We should make up our minds on whether that is okay or not. It's not. However, as I understand it, the defense is "Trump was only joking so it doesn't count". I really don't see any difference between getting money from international corporations and foreign governments. International corporations exist for the benefit of their owners/stockholders, who may well be American. They are not governments and do not directly compete with our own government. Foreign governments, however, exist for the benefit of their own citizens (or leaders, possibly), who are typically not also American citizens. With that said, I would agree that politicians should not be able to accept donations from international corporations. Or from corporations in general. The employees and stockholders of a corporation can still contribute, of course, should they choose to do so. But to oversimplify: if corporate donations are not a net profit, they're a betrayal of the stockholders, and if they are a net profit, then they're bribery for kickback. Either way I don't see any good reason to permit them. --- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:913769871] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>From the point of view of what should be, not what the law is right now, I don't think anything we've found is half as clear as Trump's own tweet asking for Putin to release Hillary's emails (which he could only have obtained through successful spying). That's right out in the open. We should make up our minds on whether that is okay or not. It's not. However, as I understand it, the defense is "Trump was only joking so it doesn't count". I really don't see any difference between getting money from international corporations and foreign governments. International corporations exist for the benefit of their owners/stockholders, who may well be American. They are not governments and do not directly compete with our own government. Foreign governments, however, exist for the benefit of their own citizens (or leaders, possibly), who are typically not also American citizens. With that said, I would agree that politicians should not be able to accept donations from international corporations. Or from corporations in general. The employees and stockholders of a corporation can still contribute, of course, should they choose to do so. But to oversimplify: if corporate donations are not a net profit, they're a betrayal of the stockholders, and if they are a net profit, then they're bribery for kickback. Either way I don't see any good reason to permit them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/08/18 12:33:50 PM #320:	red sox 777 posted... The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same I mean, Trump also literally has 30+ years of experience doing shady things just as illegally. Also, I know these posts of mine are anecdotal, but the Right Wing Facebook groups I frequent are pretty much all going for the but Hillary defense, winning things like if the law doesnt apply to her, why should it apply to Trump? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:913771385] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same</quote> I mean, Trump also literally has 30+ years of experience doing shady things just as illegally. Also, I know these posts of mine are anecdotal, but the Right Wing Facebook groups I frequent are pretty much all going for the but Hillary defense, winning things like if the law doesnt apply to her, why should it apply to Trump?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 12/08/18 12:34:47 PM #321:	red sox 777 posted... The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same. Trump has a lot of experience in shady dealings. He ran, and was successfully sued for running a fraudulent university where... nevermind, I'm responding to Redsox again. my bad. --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." <cite>Ashethan posted [p:913771431] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same.</quote> Trump has a lot of experience in shady dealings. He ran, and was successfully sued for running a fraudulent university where... nevermind, I'm responding to Redsox again. my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cyrlous 12/08/18 3:29:29 PM #322:	Wow, I left for awhile, came back, and people are still crying about Trump being vindicated. Sad! --- The official Ghoul of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board <cite>Cyrlous posted [p:913779304] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Wow, I left for awhile, came back, and people are still crying about Trump being vindicated. Sad!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 12/08/18 4:49:48 PM #323:	LapisLazuli posted... There's really nothing that can make someone's stance look more worthless than an unironic "but her emails" defense. But her emails. ChaosTonyV4 posted... I mean, Trump also literally has 30+ years of experience doing shady things just as illegally. Also, I know these posts of mine are anecdotal, but the Right Wing Facebook groups I frequent are pretty much all going for the but Hillary defense, winning things like if the law doesnt apply to her, why should it apply to Trump? That's true, but very little of it was in politics. No doubt Trump knows his way around the bankruptcy law as well as anyone, or the law on refusing to pay contractors, but he probably didn't know the campaign finance laws too well. Manafort, though, doesn't have that excuse as he has also been in the business for nearly 40 years. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:913783073] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote>There's really nothing that can make someone's stance look more worthless than an unironic "but her emails" defense.</quote> But her emails. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, Trump also literally has 30+ years of experience doing shady things just as illegally. Also, I know these posts of mine are anecdotal, but the Right Wing Facebook groups I frequent are pretty much all going for the but Hillary defense, winning things like if the law doesnt apply to her, why should it apply to Trump?</quote> That's true, but very little of it was in politics. No doubt Trump knows his way around the bankruptcy law as well as anyone, or the law on refusing to pay contractors, but he probably didn't know the campaign finance laws too well. Manafort, though, doesn't have that excuse as he has also been in the business for nearly 40 years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/08/18 5:52:45 PM #324:	Cyrlous posted... Wow, I left for awhile, came back, and people are still crying about Trump being vindicated. Sad! Lmao --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:913785858] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cyrlous posted...</cite> <quote>Wow, I left for awhile, came back, and people are still crying about Trump being vindicated. Sad!</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 12/08/18 7:27:10 PM #325:	Very lazy trolling attempt Better than that anti-semite at least I guess --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:913790081] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Very lazy trolling attempt Better than that anti-semite at least I guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 12/08/18 7:34:16 PM #326:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5qrVdD9E0" data-time=" --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:913790435] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5qrVdD9E0" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/08/18 7:47:19 PM #327:	You keep your damn Spider-Man 2 references outta here. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:913790997] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>You keep your damn Spider-Man 2 references outta here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 12/08/18 8:32:50 PM #328:	TheRock1525 posted... You keep your damn Spider-Man 2 references outta here. Juice controls the media!! --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:913793015] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>You keep your damn Spider-Man 2 references outta here.</quote> Juice controls the media!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/08/18 10:11:06 PM #329:	Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/ --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913797460] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pxlated 12/08/18 10:12:49 PM #330:	Umitencho posted... Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/ Big assumption --- [various robot sounds] <cite>pxlated posted [p:913797530] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote>Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/</quote> Big assumption</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/08/18 10:13:45 PM #331:	pxlated posted... Umitencho posted... Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/ Big assumption True, time will tell if he is just on vacation or looking for asylum. --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913797573] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>pxlated posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Umitencho posted...</cite> <quote>Looks like Trump Jr. is running off to Canada. Apparently he might be next on the indictment list. He does know that the US has an extradite treaty with Canada, and Canada has recently arrested the CFO of Huawei Tech on the US's request to do so? https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/in-trumpworld-they-know-someone-is-coming-to-town-and-its-not-santa https://www.inquisitr.com/5200727/donald-trump-jr-reportedly-hiding-out-in-canada-as-he-faces-imminent-indictment-from-robert-mueller/</quote> Big assumption</quote> True, time will tell if he is just on vacation or looking for asylum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/09/18 6:30:41 PM #332:	https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqeev/crowdfunding-site-patreon-is-purging-far-right-figures Free market at work. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:913842846] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqeev/crowdfunding-site-patreon-is-purging-far-right-figures Free market at work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 12/09/18 6:39:11 PM #333:	TheRock1525 posted... https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqeev/crowdfunding-site-patreon-is-purging-far-right-figures Free market at work. https://66.media.tumblr.com/2deae067241d8442b02b088778be8f0f/tumblr_okr2noxs4c1r8eddeo1_250.gif --- https://i.imgtc.com/mK6jyNa.png <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:913843380] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvqeev/crowdfunding-site-patreon-is-purging-far-right-figures Free market at work.</quote> https://66.media.tumblr.com/2deae067241d8442b02b088778be8f0f/tumblr_okr2noxs4c1r8eddeo1_250.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umitencho 12/09/18 8:20:05 PM #334:	So Nick Ayers, who was Pence's Chief of Staff, turned down Trump's offer to become his Chief of Staff & announced that he is also leaving the White House. Sounds like the staffers are jumping ship. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/us/politics/nick-ayers-trump-chief-of-staff.html https://twitter.com/nick_ayers/status/1071879332283453440 --- 3DS FC: 4399-0076-4217 <cite>Umitencho posted [p:913849722] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>So Nick Ayers, who was Pence's Chief of Staff, turned down Trump's offer to become his Chief of Staff & announced that he is also leaving the White House. Sounds like the staffers are jumping ship. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/09/us/politics/nick-ayers-trump-chief-of-staff.html https://twitter.com/nick_ayers/status/1071879332283453440</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/09/18 8:22:40 PM #335:	red sox 777 posted... The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same. whoa, since when are you talking about morals here? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:913849863] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>red sox 777 posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that Hillary has 30 years of experience in doing shady things legally while Trump does not explains why his team is getting in legal trouble, but morally, it's all the same.</quote> whoa, since when are you talking about morals here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/10/18 1:50:26 AM #336:	--- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:913864521] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/10/18 2:02:27 AM #337:	As funny as it would be, and as completely impossible as it is to tell the difference, that Trump tweet about the Dow falling 1000 points isn't genuine. He didn't tweet that. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:913864857] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>As funny as it would be, and as completely impossible as it is to tell the difference, that Trump tweet about the Dow falling 1000 points isn't genuine. He didn't tweet that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 12/10/18 2:34:02 AM #338:	why on earth would someone make up an asinine trump tweet there are a million real ones you can link to --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:913865708] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>why on earth would someone make up an asinine trump tweet there are a million real ones you can link to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 12/10/18 2:39:21 AM #339:	Every time someone makes up bullshit Trump tweets and somebody shares it, its just adding more evidence that criticism of Trump is fake news, when theres a zillion ofher instances of real shit. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:913865842] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Every time someone makes up bullshit Trump tweets and somebody shares it, its just adding more evidence that criticism of Trump is fake news, when theres a zillion ofher instances of real shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 12/10/18 4:34:26 AM #340:	I'm a little hesitant to get excited about the Mueller stuff, because it feels like if they had evidence of him colluding with Russia, the fact he has access to so much critical information means he should be shit canned instantly. Just on the off chance he's passed said information along. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:913868207] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>I'm a little hesitant to get excited about the Mueller stuff, because it feels like if they had evidence of him colluding with Russia, the fact he has access to so much critical information means he should be shit canned instantly. Just on the off chance he's passed said information along.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/10/18 5:42:44 AM #341:	getting excited about Mueller stuff is pointless first of all, maybe something will happen, maybe it won't, who knows. second of all, trump isn't the final boss, seeing him go to jail is satisfying but it doesn't fix any of the underlying problems. it would be better if he were punished than not, but it won't solve anything. third, pence ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT EVER become president if trump were to be removed from office. dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president. don't prove him right <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:913869344] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>getting excited about Mueller stuff is pointless first of all, maybe something will happen, maybe it won't, who knows. second of all, trump isn't the final boss, seeing him go to jail is satisfying but it doesn't fix any of the underlying problems. it would be better if he were punished than not, but it won't solve anything. third, pence ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT EVER become president if trump were to be removed from office. dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president. don't prove him right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/10/18 7:17:51 AM #342:	The entire administration needs to be canned --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:913871062] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>The entire administration needs to be canned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/10/18 7:57:02 AM #343:	Paratroopa1 posted... dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president. i mean, GWB thought this too. not saying that's necessarily a point in pence' favor but hey, the world still exists after 8 years of bush! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:913871917] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote>dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president.</quote> i mean, GWB thought this too. not saying that's necessarily a point in pence' favor but hey, the world still exists after 8 years of bush!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/10/18 8:08:03 AM #344:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Paratroopa1 posted... dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president. i mean, GWB thought this too. not saying that's necessarily a point in pence' favor but hey, the world still exists after 8 years of bush! I mean I'm not even going as far as the damage he could deal with the presidency, I just really don't want that kind of stupid fantasy to be vindicated. I have nothing but the highest level of disdain for someone whose ego is so great that they believe a rise to power was ordained by god. It offends what little bit of religious sensibility I have left - it's like, deeply blasphemous to believe that god has a plan for you that involves you getting a selfish thing you want. Blasphemous or just literally insane. One of the two. Also I dunno about GWB but when Pence says it I really believe he thinks it. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:913872181] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote>dude's a deluded monster who literally believes god put him on this earth to become president.</quote> i mean, GWB thought this too. not saying that's necessarily a point in pence' favor but hey, the world still exists after 8 years of bush!</quote> I mean I'm not even going as far as the damage he could deal with the presidency, I just really don't want that kind of stupid fantasy to be vindicated. I have nothing but the highest level of disdain for someone whose ego is so great that they believe a rise to power was ordained by god. It offends what little bit of religious sensibility I have left - it's like, deeply blasphemous to believe that god has a plan for you that involves you getting a selfish thing you want. Blasphemous or just literally insane. One of the two. Also I dunno about GWB but when Pence says it I really believe he thinks it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 12/10/18 9:10:06 AM #345:	Pence is an intolerable "human being" I agree. I thought when Trump first came to power with him as VP it was a ruse for him to step down and bump Pence up because he didn't stand a hope in hell of getting elected on his own. (He did bring some of the evangelicals and zealots to Trump though). But then Trump just kept going and clawing at his power, and Pence kinda vanished. Still believe he's worse than Trump though. Trump's a dumbass bigoted blowhard. Pence is smart enough to actually do some real damage. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:913873962] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Pence is an intolerable "human being" I agree. I thought when Trump first came to power with him as VP it was a ruse for him to step down and bump Pence up because he didn't stand a hope in hell of getting elected on his own. (He did bring some of the evangelicals and zealots to Trump though). But then Trump just kept going and clawing at his power, and Pence kinda vanished. Still believe he's worse than Trump though. Trump's a dumbass bigoted blowhard. Pence is smart enough to actually do some real damage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 12/10/18 9:16:04 AM #346:	Paratroopa1 posted... Also I dunno about GWB but when Pence says it I really believe he thinks it. GWB literally said shit like "jesus christ was the greatest philosopher in history" (lol @ the idea that jesus qualified as a philosopher) and "i'm going to win the war on terror because jesus told me so." he's as much of a hardcore christian nutcase as pence, even if he's less known for being one. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:913874193] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote>Also I dunno about GWB but when Pence says it I really believe he thinks it.</quote> GWB literally said shit like "jesus christ was the greatest philosopher in history" (lol @ the idea that jesus qualified as a philosopher) and "i'm going to win the war on terror because jesus told me so." he's as much of a hardcore christian nutcase as pence, even if he's less known for being one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/10/18 9:55:49 AM #347:	https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-leaker-trump-lawyer-fingered-james-comey-1251501 This is an unfortunate headline --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913875796] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-leaker-trump-lawyer-fingered-james-comey-1251501 This is an unfortunate headline</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/10/18 9:58:01 AM #348:	--- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:913875896] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote> --- ~Peaf~</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/10/18 9:59:29 AM #349:	Talk about letting someone invade your text --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913875973] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>Talk about letting someone invade your text</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/10/18 10:01:22 AM #350:	Paratroopa1 posted... It offends what little bit of religious sensibility I have left Im honestly a bit surprised you had any left --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913876049] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote><cite>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote>It offends what little bit of religious sensibility I have left</quote> Im honestly a bit surprised you had any left</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 12/10/18 12:03:20 PM #351:	https://twitter.com/freedarko/status/1071952833409245185?s=21 Sharing this in both topics because racists like Molyneux are such idiots its worth a laugh --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:913882117] in Politics C... [t:77254277]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/freedarko/status/1071952833409245185?s=21 Sharing this in both topics because racists like Molyneux are such idiots its worth a laugh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 209: Lord of the Lies