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andel
12/12/18 10:56:54 PM
#153:


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I absolutely cannot wait for Angelina's FTC performance, it's gonna be a trainwreck


absolutely and i am here for it lol. she will 100% bring up the rice negotiation because that is her biggest moment (unfortunately for her) and it will be great
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Underleveled
12/12/18 11:07:52 PM
#154:


Hmm, I gotta say, as much as I love this season, I am a bit disappointed that two of the three most electric characters got eliminated in the two episodes leading up to the finale.
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Inviso
12/12/18 11:09:54 PM
#155:


Underleveled posted...
Hmm, I gotta say, as much as I love this season, I am a bit disappointed that two of the three most electric characters got eliminated in the two episodes leading up to the finale.


I thought the same thing. I had Angelina/Christian/Gabby as my favorites left at the final eight, and now two of them are gone. Plus side, we just burned more idols, so the finale will hopefully not be a huge idol-fest.
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The Mana Sword
12/12/18 11:10:34 PM
#156:


Yeah, arent there currently zero advantages in play now?
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Naye745
12/12/18 11:12:50 PM
#157:


yeah i agree with the sadness of losing gabby/christian but it's been a great ride and i'm looking forward to see where it stops
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Underleveled
12/12/18 11:14:03 PM
#158:


Inviso posted...
Underleveled posted...
Hmm, I gotta say, as much as I love this season, I am a bit disappointed that two of the three most electric characters got eliminated in the two episodes leading up to the finale.


I thought the same thing. I had Angelina/Christian/Gabby as my favorites left at the final eight, and now two of them are gone. Plus side, we just burned more idols, so the finale will hopefully not be a huge idol-fest.

They are my top 3 for the whole season, finale/reunion pending.

As it stands, Mike would be my least-favorite but that's more a testament to the strength of the cast as a whole than anything he's done/hasn't done. He'd probably avoid my bottom third of all time.
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Mewtwo59
12/12/18 11:22:09 PM
#159:


The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, arent there currently zero advantages in play now?


Yeah, because that totally stopped Ben from finding an idol in the finale.
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eaedwards6400
12/12/18 11:55:28 PM
#160:


Mewtwo59 posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, arent there currently zero advantages in play now?


Yeah, because that totally stopped Ben from finding an idol in the finale.


Ben's win was rigged and yadayadayada.. anyone else think its curious that the second idol was attached with the "you have to risk your vote to add weeks" twist?
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Inviso
12/13/18 12:06:42 AM
#161:


Mewtwo59 posted...
The Mana Sword posted...
Yeah, arent there currently zero advantages in play now?


Yeah, because that totally stopped Ben from finding an idol in the finale.


Honestly? I'll take Ben's bullshit idol finds (since he only won on the bullshit fire-making twist) over Dom and Wendell both having idols going into the finale, and Sebastian having an extra vote, and most of the strategy revolving around whether or not they planned on playing those advantages because there was nothing else to fucking show.
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GTM
12/13/18 12:24:52 AM
#162:


I read the tribal all wrong, thought it was allison going home

but jeez 3-2-2 this is crazy
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Peridiam
12/13/18 12:27:16 AM
#163:


I'm still set on Kara winning this.

I haven't been following the edit so deeply as I usually do, but tonight she talked at length about the plan to take out Christian, and all the while I'm thinking "Well, either Christian is going or Kara isn't winning."

And here we are.
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Inviso
12/13/18 12:27:17 AM
#164:


GTM posted...
I read the tribal all wrong, thought it was allison going home

but jeez 3-2-2 this is crazy


3-2-0* (just for accuracy's sake).
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Peridiam
12/13/18 12:29:30 AM
#165:


Peridiam posted...
I'm still set on Kara winning this.

I haven't been following the edit so deeply as I usually do, but tonight she talked at length about the plan to take out Christian, and all the while I'm thinking "Well, either Christian is going or Kara isn't winning."

And here we are.

Correction: she talked about getting Nick out.

lmao

Well, here we are, back at square one.
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ClyTheCool
12/13/18 12:30:05 AM
#166:


Peridiam posted...
I'm still set on Kara winning this.

I haven't been following the edit so deeply as I usually do, but tonight she talked at length about the plan to take out Christian, and all the while I'm thinking "Well, either Christian is going or Kara isn't winning."

And here we are.


Did you confuse Kara with Mike White? I don't remember her talking about getting Christian at all
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Peridiam
12/13/18 12:32:30 AM
#167:


In my defense, Kara and Mike are very easy to mix up.
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GTM
12/13/18 12:38:36 AM
#168:


this is why I love this season

what the hell just happened
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ScepterOfLove
12/13/18 1:23:07 AM
#169:


Not gonna lie the last few episodes of this season have bummed me out. We got rid of big characters like Alec, Gabby and Christian while non-entities like Kara, Mike and even Alison are still here.

The Davids pulling off these amazing plays midseason and then cannibalizing each other has been a pretty bleak narrative.
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QJD1381
12/13/18 1:31:23 AM
#170:


As good as this season is, this final 6 just feels... depressing.
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12/13/18 1:48:48 AM
#171:


while theres arguably no "biggest character of the season" caliber in the final 6, they did a really good job developing the 6 that these 6 still score higher than past seasons despite no biggest characters left, there isnt a chelsea in the bunch where I have no clue who they are
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GTM
12/13/18 1:49:31 AM
#172:


so maybe only depressing if you consider this season in isolation
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QJD1381
12/13/18 1:58:45 AM
#173:


What on earth do we really know about Kara and Allyson (besides Allyson apparently being such a offscreen threat)?
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Peridiam
12/13/18 2:10:38 AM
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andel
12/13/18 4:10:23 AM
#175:


QJD1381 posted...
What on earth do we really know about Kara and Allyson (besides Allyson apparently being such a offscreen threat)?


kara in particular has integrated herself in really well with everyone and has been a social and strategic force since she decided to cut dan

alison has been involved in many pivotal moves post merge and flipped the target from herself multiple times (though not as the primary instigator in any case). both are pretty solid imo and especially kara as she is probably the most likely goliath to win imo
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The Mana Sword
12/13/18 8:08:15 AM
#176:


Christians Ponderosa is v. good
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Omniscientless
12/13/18 9:03:40 AM
#177:


Kara is a social force for sure, but she dropped the ball in the two last episodes. Her only confessionals have been about a certain boot being perfect for her game and then that boot not happening. She has a weird edit.
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The Mana Sword
12/13/18 9:09:25 AM
#178:


I just looked at a confessional chart for the season and didnt realize how many confessionals Kara has actually gotten. Shes on the lower end of things with regards to the other six (minus Alison), but still hanging in at not far behind.
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Underleveled
12/13/18 10:09:31 AM
#179:


The Mana Sword posted...
I just looked at a confessional chart for the season and didnt realize how many confessionals Kara has actually gotten. Shes on the lower end of things with regards to the other six (minus Alison), but still hanging in at not far behind.

And Davie's 9 last night to Kara's 4 means that he was actually behind her before last night.
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CoolCly
12/13/18 11:23:37 AM
#180:


I really feel like resume wise Alison and Kara should not be in the running, but they might be somehow. Especially since everyone seems to see Alison a a threat.
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eaedwards6400
12/13/18 11:57:42 AM
#181:


There is some disconnect with why she is a "huge threat"
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Maniac64
12/13/18 8:35:02 PM
#182:


While the season is definitely still interesting every week it's becoming less enjoyable as the best people get voted out.
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Inviso
12/13/18 8:45:09 PM
#183:


Yeah, I'm not gonna trash it or anything, because it's still a marked improvement over the past few seasons, but it feels like GC/HHH ran out of steam right near the end too. I feel like the show really needs to have some more double boots to whittle the numbers down earlier than they do.
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Underleveled
12/13/18 8:48:00 PM
#184:


I read an interview with Probst a few months ago in which he said as far as editing goes they are currently more concerned with telling a boot narrative in each episode than a coherent narrative for the season as a whole, which explains why some modern seasons start out good and lose steam in the last few weeks, and why edgic is pretty much out the window lately.
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Naye745
12/14/18 12:39:42 AM
#185:


that's interesting because while i agree that seems to be the trend, i feel this season in particular has gone to extra lengths to explain stuff up front, multiple episodes in advance (see elizabeth's plotline on vuku a week before the merge boot episode)

and for what its worth, the season and its characterization as a whole have been a lot better for it
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Inviso
12/14/18 12:43:07 AM
#186:


Naye745 posted...
that's interesting because while i agree that seems to be the trend, i feel this season in particular has gone to extra lengths to explain stuff up front, multiple episodes in advance (see elizabeth's plotline on vuku a week before the merge boot episode)

and for what its worth, the season and its characterization as a whole have been a lot better for it


I was actually thinking the opposite, strangely enough. Elizabeth had a little ripple prior to her boot, but then she goes. Then John goes completely out of nowhere. Then Dan had a ripple of screentime before he's targeted and out. Then Alec goes in one episode. Then Carl goes after showing up as a target only two hours prior. And then Gabby's story arc concludes rather abruptly. Christian is the only long-term arc I feel that has reached its conclusion since the merge.
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Underleveled
12/14/18 11:19:54 PM
#187:


I suspect the DVD/BR cover of this season will have - Christian, Gabby, Angelina, Davie, Nick, and Mike. If the winner is Alison or Kara, they would replace Mike.
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eaedwards6400
12/15/18 11:48:55 PM
#188:


I haven't finished BB10 yet but I know Dan wins and they may be the most overrated Big Brother winner. I dont love his strategy thus far
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Peridiam
12/16/18 1:22:32 AM
#189:


How far into the season are you?
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eaedwards6400
12/16/18 1:32:47 AM
#190:


Just passed the double. My major criticism is that it is very sloppy and not what I was expecting when I hear he challenges Will for best player.
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Peridiam
12/16/18 1:49:43 AM
#191:


Have you seen BB14 as well?

Bear in mind, Wills BB2 game is very sloppy. I made a video just about his game that season so that I can eventually lead into a bigger discussion about the two. That said, Wills BB7 game is masterful.

Im not sure Id call the winning game in BB10 all that sloppy, although I havent watched the season in a few years, so some details may be eluding me. Week 1 is definitely the low point, but thats Brians fault. From there on its pretty controlled at every point. People get mad at the winner quite often but the same happened to Will.

The F7 veto roulette is a hot mess, Ill agree, but it does have several added benefits that dont seem obvious at face value. I do think that move is sloppy though (I briefly talk about it in my flashy moves vid). But then Will has the F4 blunder and while I havent gotten to that point yet in my BB7 rewatch, I cant say Dan does anything worse than that.
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eaedwards6400
12/16/18 12:14:10 PM
#192:


I have noticed the benefits of his bad moves at F7 yet. His flip flopping just seems so apparent that it puts him in the line of fire more often than I think he could have been.

I know Will was always in the lime light post Chilltown but I feel like it was smoother than thus but I'll see how it ends. I'm on F5 now.
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Peridiam
12/16/18 5:18:11 PM
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eaedwards6400
12/16/18 5:58:32 PM
#194:


Maybe more riding the middle that makes him an apparent swing vote for most of the votes. Being the swing vote makes you a target. Just got to the final 4 and the biggest difference between him in Will other than the other stuff is he can win challenges.
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Peridiam
12/16/18 6:14:13 PM
#195:


Which votes? Sorry, not trying to cast doubt, just trying to clarify. The only vote I remember him being in the middle was the Jessie vote, but he was also America's Player and knew they were voting out Jessie. He had no choice.
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eaedwards6400
12/16/18 7:31:49 PM
#196:


Okay so I thought it happened on the April vote and the Libra votes but then I looked up that they ended up unanimous votes.
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GTM
12/17/18 12:22:08 PM
#197:


finale wednesday, want to see the preview for 38
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The Mana Sword
12/17/18 12:23:33 PM
#198:


the preview might end up being the only good part of 38!
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Underleveled
12/17/18 12:24:02 PM
#199:


My hopes for 38 are clinging to life by the combination of this season's quality, Jeff's disappointment, and Lynn's firing after its conclusion.
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eaedwards6400
12/17/18 5:11:33 PM
#200:


Let's not write the eulogy of 38 before it even starts.

Also, I've asked this before but are we sure she was fired? Her statement to Shane, the one who broke this story was, is that unfortunately that she is no longer with Survivor. That neither says she was fired, quit, or retired.
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12/17/18 7:24:04 PM
#201:


Im hopeful for 38 cause it's probably better that they know the season is a trainwreck before it airs, hoping that means they will try wacky things to fix it
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GTM
12/18/18 11:05:24 PM
#202:


soon
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