Board 8 > Nationalist politics topic 12: Pack your bags!

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://www.google.com/search?q=african%20ruins&tbm=isch

I said comparable to Roman...

Jakyl25 posted...

I also like how his image of European civilization 2000 years ago is a drawing

Would you believe it, cameras were not around back then.

Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

When you find ruins even remotely comparable to the Roman ones in Africa, let me know. I'll be waiting. Facts are not "racist."

usually you guys can at least remember that egypt exists even if you don't know shit about the rest of africa, lmao

pathetic

now where's this proof of europe always being a safe place to live with your countrymen, where daughters can roam freely at night?

Have you any idea where Egypt is located? It happens to be on the African continent, but it's on the Mediterranean. To claim it as representative of sub-Saharan Africa is lol-worthy... Then again, it's part and parcel for globalist supporters to try to twist facts however they can because they desperately need it.
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Vlado posted...

Have you any idea where Egypt is located? It happens to be on the African continent, but it's on the Mediterranean.

Do you have any idea where Rome is located?
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Answer the second half of his question if hes wrong then, mister only globalists alter facts. Also, YOURE the one that posted a racist image lumping an entire continent under a single header, so dont call Kenri the one twisting facts. If anything, one could make the claim that your all-encompassing European culture was created as a result of copying from earlier civilizations in what are modern day Islamic countries. But I guess globalism is only good when YOU benefit, huh? Kinda like you having the freedom to post on an American-run message board using Certainly-not-Bulgarian invented internet.
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Vlado posted...

Have you any idea where Egypt is located? It happens to be on the African continent

Yep, which is what you asked for. Feel free to amend your dumb racist lie.

Still waiting on that proof that European civilization has always been safe.
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Vlado posted...

Would you believe it, cameras were not around back then.

Yet we have pictures of the others! If they invented cameras but Romans didnt, thats pretty sad right?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

Have you any idea where Egypt is located? It happens to be on the African continent, but it's on the Mediterranean.

Do you have any idea where Rome is located?

Exactly my point. Its proximity to Europe is key for Egypt.

Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

Have you any idea where Egypt is located? It happens to be on the African continent

Yep, which is what you asked for. Feel free to amend your dumb racist lie.

Still waiting on that proof that European civilization has always been safe.

lol, ignoring the rest of my post does not make my point go away.

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

Would you believe it, cameras were not around back then.

Yet we have pictures of the others! If they invented cameras but Romans didnt, thats pretty sad right?

It's sad that such photos can be snapped in the 21st century.
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The other thing that Vlado is too dumb to understand is that nationalists like him have always spouted their half-assed views in Europe. I dont mean Nazis, although they were one of the two inevitable endgames for nationalists (the other being aggressive and forced colonial conversion).

No, back in the 1800s, the Irish fled their country in droves due to the Potato Famine, and native Europeans hated them as outsiders.

Then the various colonial empires fell apart, and immigrants flooded in from sub Saharan Africa and South Asia, seeking a better life after the departing colonizers left their countries in disarray (sometimes arbitrarily dividing land masses into new nations as they saw fit), and native Europeans/Irish immigrants hated them as outsiders.

Then the Soviet Union crumbled, and you had immigrants from the former Soviet bloc trying to get away from the crippling poverty marked by the Soviet regime. Countries like Romania, Hungary, Poland, and yes, Bulgaria, flooded Europe, and Native Europeans/Irish immigrants/colonial immigrants hated them as outsiders.

And now today, you have Middle Eastern refugees fleeing from a region that has been bombed to shit since World War II. And Native Europeans/Irish immigrants/colonial immigrants/Soviet immigrants hate them as outsiders.

The point is, we shouldnt have to cater to a bunch of greedy assholes who managed to climb aboard a prosperous ship and want to pull the ladder up behind them because theyre cowardly losers who are afraid of change and afraid of people who are different. The world is too interconnected to cater to people like Vlado, whove gotten all the benefits of globalization, and now want to take it away from other people.
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Proximity to Egypt and the Middle East is key for Europe. See how that works?
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If the US/Western Europe feel guilty about fucking up the Middle East with wars, by all means help them rebuild. Do not fucking bring the third world into the US/Western Europe.

Instead of rambling, I urge you to read that news about Denmark. It's very cool!
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Vlado posted...

If the US/Western Europe feel guilty about fucking up the Middle East with wars, by all means help them rebuild. Do not fucking bring the third world into the US/Western Europe.

Again, your third world shithole country (Copyright Donald J. Trump), benefitted from the same immigration that youre now claiming the Middle East is unworthy of, so you come across as a racist, easily scapegoating the new minority on the block.
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You make zero sense, which is no surprise given that you don't know WTF you're talking about. It is a tragic waste of time to have read your posts.
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You just lack a basic understanding of world history, geography, Christianity and American civics, yet you post like youre an expert on all of the above.
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Are you ignoring the fact that Christianity largely destroyed the Roman Empire and entered us into a dark ages if terms of architecture, art, thought, etc.?

Because I feel like that's a pretty big thing to gloss over.
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Like, its utterly laughable for you to make the claim that Egypt prospered due to its proximity to Europe. Egyptian civilization predates even the earliest vestige of what one could consider European culture by a good thousand years. And it predates the Roman Empire by a good 2500 years. But sure, Egypt was influenced by EUROPE, because White, Christian Europe has ALWAYS existed and has always been the dominant force on the planet.
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Vlado posted...

if we're going to play this game, at some point in the middle ages islamic culture was far more advanced than westen culture.
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Vlado posted...

lol, ignoring the rest of my post does not make my point go away.

The rest of your post is irrelevant since you admit I'm right in the first part of it. Egypt exists whether you forget about it and make excuses later or not. And it's in Africa.

Vlado posted...

Instead of rambling, I urge you to read that news about Denmark. It's very cool!

Extremely anti-human though.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Are you ignoring the fact that Christianity largely destroyed the Roman Empire and entered us into a dark ages if terms of architecture, art, thought, etc.?

i'll argue against this, actually. there was plenty of important architecture and art created in western europe throughout the middle ages. for instance, the gregorian chant was invented during this time, which was pretty much the basis of western music.

there were some important philosophers too, though the field of thought probably didn't advance too quickly because of religious oppression, sure.
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Vlado posted...

Exactly my point. Its proximity to Europe is key for Egypt.

PFFFFFFFT hahahahahaha
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Vlado posted...

It's sad that such photos can be snapped in the 21st century.

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-586294-galleryV9-gvmi-586294.jpg
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Espeon posted...

You just lack a basic understanding of world history, geography, Christianity and American civics, yet you post like youre an expert on all of the above.

A "no u" response does not change the facts.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

if we're going to play this game, at some point in the middle ages islamic culture was far more advanced than westen culture.

I don't know about "far more," but there's a good case to say it was, especially compared to Western Europe (Eastern Roman Empire was something else). Shame they couldn't sustain that development.

Kenri posted...

The rest of your post is irrelevant since you admit I'm right in the first part of it.

lol, no, that's not how it works. I'm not here to argue semantics. My point stands as powerfully as ever.

Kenri posted...

Extremely anti-human though.

Putting your people above foreigners is the exact opposite of "anti-human." As a leader of a country, it is your DUTY to take care of your people first.

Jakyl25 posted...

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-586294-galleryV9-gvmi-586294.jpg

Sure, that's also sad. Your point?

Mr Lasastryke posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Are you ignoring the fact that Christianity largely destroyed the Roman Empire and entered us into a dark ages if terms of architecture, art, thought, etc.?

i'll argue against this, actually. there was plenty of important architecture and art created in western europe throughout the middle ages. for instance, the gregorian chant was invented during this time, which was pretty much the basis of western music.

there were some important philosophers too, though the field of thought probably didn't advance too quickly because of religious oppression, sure.

I'll add that the "dark ages" is literally a meme with no basis in reality. It was invented by early renaissance authors to make themselves seem important. The inquisition is really the only thing Europe ought to be ashamed of.
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I thought memes were always based in truth tho

Let me remind you: on the internet, memes have a much bigger chance of spreading if they are based on the truth. Of course, that does not mean every single meme is based on the truth. Important difference.

Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

Exactly my point. Its proximity to Europe is key for Egypt.

PFFFFFFFT hahahahahaha

Compelling argument.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Are you ignoring the fact that Christianity largely destroyed the Roman Empire and entered us into a dark ages if terms of architecture, art, thought, etc.?

i'll argue against this, actually. there was plenty of important architecture and art created in western europe throughout the middle ages. for instance, the gregorian chant was invented during this time, which was pretty much the basis of western music.

there were some important philosophers too, though the field of thought probably didn't advance too quickly because of religious oppression, sure.

Importantly, do you see their ideology's TOTAL rejection of most that Europe has contributed to the world?

Meanwhile, that worthless porn star has of course failed with her false accusations against Trump (remember, Rock, Jakyl, Kenri, Inviso, etc., the ones you literally believed in), and there's a fat bill to pay now:
https://www.rt.com/usa/445506-trumps-lawyers-double-fees/
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Uh, Vlado? That court decision had nothing to do with her having an affair with Trump. She sued him for defamation over tweets he made that essentially accused her of a crime, and the judge ruled that the tweet was rhetorical hyperbole, which apparently makes it okay. The judge ruled that while Trumps tweets exist, they dont rise to the level of defamation.
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Also, why is RUSSIA TODAY reporting about a failed anti-defamation lawsuit in another country? Its almost like foreign propaganda has a vested interest in highlighting any victory for Trump that they can.
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Yellow vests calling Macron's bluff! Protests continue!
https://www.rt.com/news/445599-yellow-vests-continue-protests-cauchy/
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I would love to hear Vlados understanding of what exactly happened between Trump and Stormy Daniels
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Vlado posted...

lol, no, that's not how it works. I'm not here to argue semantics. My point stands as powerfully as ever.

Yeah, your point about there not being any impressive ruins in fucking Africa definitely stands just as powerfully as it ever did not at all

Vlado posted...

Putting your people above foreigners is the exact opposite of "anti-human." As a leader of a country, it is your DUTY to take care of your people first.

Deportation doesn't do that, so all that's left is the anti-human aspect of it.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I would love to hear Vlados understanding of what exactly happened between Trump and Stormy Daniels

Trump politely said no but that evil porn star grabbed him by the dick.
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And then he had to pay her to keep quiet about his own sexual assault!!

It truly is an anti-men world we live in
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lmfao, no matter how many times it's proven a fraud, you'll keep believing the fairy tales. There's no hope for people who literally draw their political analogies from harry potter.

Kenri posted...

Deportation doesn't do that

You could argue they shouldn't have been let in in the first place. True enough. But since they've been let in, the next best thing is to send them back home.
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Vlado posted...

lmfao, no matter how many times it's proven a fraud, you'll keep believing the fairy tales. There's no hope for people who literally draw their political analogies from harry potter.

Im just curious as to what exactly you think has been proven a fraud

Spell it out, please
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It's weird cause Vlado once admitted that Trump isn't perfect within regards of this conversation, basically admitting that Trump had an affair with Ms. Clifford.

It's weird seeing shift back to "it's fraud."
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Vlado posted...

You could argue they shouldn't have been let in in the first place.

Not if you want to be pro-human though.
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TheRock1525 posted...

It's weird cause Vlado once admitted that Trump isn't perfect within regards of this conversation, basically admitting that Trump had an affair with Ms. Clifford.

It's weird seeing shift back to "it's fraud."

His paycheck came with a new agenda
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Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

You could argue they shouldn't have been let in in the first place.

Not if you want to be pro-human though.

I mean, lets just say what Vlado really thinks. Just like Trump, Vlado considers immigrants not human.
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Youre only human if you are in the nation Vlado believes you belong in
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it's worth noting that even pim fortuyn never wanted to deport immigrants, exactly BECAUSE of vlado's logic. he always said "now that they're here, it's our duty to take care of them."

man what an anti-human guy.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Vlado posted...

lmfao, no matter how many times it's proven a fraud, you'll keep believing the fairy tales. There's no hope for people who literally draw their political analogies from harry potter.

Im just curious as to what exactly you think has been proven a fraud

Spell it out, please

In essence, the judge has declared her activities against Trump a money-making scheme, i.e. a fraud. Of course, we cannot assume a judge is always correct about things, but it's pretty obvious there's money to be made from slandering a sitting president, especially this one, and she's made a lot of money from it. The fact that globalist networks that air fake news against Trump 24/7 have given her a lot of time on air shows that there's gigantic political bias, too.

Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

You could argue they shouldn't have been let in in the first place.

Not if you want to be pro-human though.

"Pro-human" means to protect your own citizens' interests. Foreigners come after. If you try to help anybody and everybody, at the end you help nobody. That's how the world works.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

it's worth noting that even pim fortuyn never wanted to deport immigrants, exactly BECAUSE of vlado's logic. he always said "now that they're here, it's our duty to take care of them."

man what an anti-human guy.

He was wrong. They don't belong there. The right Christian action would be to help them rebuild their own countries - if you've got the excess funds. Not ruin your own country supposedly for their sake.

Anyway, we made the news!
https://www.rt.com/newsline/445649-bulgaria-un-migration-pact/

Proud of my country. :)

Other news:
Facebook caught in foul play yet again: https://www.rt.com/uk/445665-facebook-documents-published-parliament/

Neo-Stasi commies offer money for doxxing peaceful Germans protesting migrant crime, break a bazillion German privacy laws, get police investigating them instead, twitter leftists unironically take the neo-Stasi side "for the good of society": https://www.rt.com/news/445684-germany-right-wingers-headhunt-chemnitz/

Neocons in the Trump administration overstep their bounds, arrest a Huawei director in Canada: https://www.rt.com/usa/445687-huawei-executive-arrest-extradition/
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Vlado posted...

In essence, the judge has declared her activities against Trump a money-making scheme, i.e. a fraud.

Okay so basically you dont live in this reality. Got it.
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Vlado posted...

"Pro-human" means to protect your own citizens' interests.

"Pro-human" means not caring where someone is from, because to do so values imaginary lines over real human lives.
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Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

"Pro-human" means to protect your own citizens' interests.

"Pro-human" means not caring where someone is from, because to do so values imaginary lines over real human lives.

How narrow should this definition be? Do I protect all US citizens, or just the citizens in my state? Or should it be even narrower and maybe my county? Or city?
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Kenri posted...

Vlado posted...

"Pro-human" means to protect your own citizens' interests.

"Pro-human" means not caring where someone is from, because to do so values imaginary lines over real human lives.

Yeah, no. Even if we ignored all the ethical grounds, as a member of a government, you are an employee of your citizens. Your budget comes from the taxes paid by your citizens. Therefore, you are obliged to prioritise your citizens over foreigners.

Meanwhile,

Clinton Foundation CFO: I KNOW WHERE ALL THE BODIES ARE BURIED.

The CFO of the Clinton Foundation, thinking he was "meeting an old professional acquaintance," admitted to investigators that the charity had widespread problems with governance, accounting and conflicts of interest, and that Bill Clinton has been commingling business and personal expenses for a long time, reports The Hill's John Solomon.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-06/i-know-where-all-bodies-are-buried-clinton-foundation-cfo-spills-beans

wew
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Vlado posted...

Yeah, no. Even if we ignored all the ethical grounds, as a member of a government, you are an employee of your citizens. Your budget comes from the taxes paid by your citizens. Therefore, you are obliged to prioritise your citizens over foreigners.

"prioritise your citizens over foreigners" is just a (slightly) nicer way of saying you value borders/states more than actual human lives. definitely not pro-human in any way, though you can argue that's fine (even necessary to some extent) for politicians. when it comes to mass deportations though that's not pro-human or pro-citizen, it's just anti-foreigner.
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It's both pro-human and pro-citizen. If the interests of your citizens are endangered, it is not only lawful and politically clever, it is also the MORAL thing to do.
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*forces you to leave your home at gunpoint* I'm being moral!
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Except here we're talking about someone else's home.
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Youre using the term pro-human because it gives you the automatic moral high ground. If youre pro-human, then anyone arguing against you is anti-human, which sounds monstrous. And once youve established yourself as the moral hero based on label, it doesnt matter that your ACTUAL beliefs have nothing to do with being pro-human, since in fact you believe that non-citizens are sub-human compared to citizens.

Its a lot like pro-life, and the implication is that the opposition is pro-death. Never mind that only one side actually cares about babies when theyre BORN, nope, theyre pro-death and evil.
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Vlado posted...

Yeah, no. Even if we ignored all the ethical grounds, as a member of a government, you are an employee of your citizens. Your budget comes from the taxes paid by your citizens. Therefore, you are obliged to prioritise your citizens over foreigners.

Immigrants pay taxes too you silly goose
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Vlado posted...

Except here we're talking about someone else's home.

Yes, I think that's what I just said? Not like I'm speaking from personal experience, the whole conservation has been about other peoples' homes.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/german-neo-nazis-fell-for-art-project-and-outed-themselves

Nazis get wrecked by getting tricked into putting their own names into a search engine to see if theyve been exposed yet
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