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scarletspeed7
11/25/18 7:16:07 PM
#51:


This is definitely a very goofy film, and sometimes the silliness factor is maybe a little distracting like in the over-stuffed, comically raucous environment of the police station, for example. More often than not, though, this is a movie that just takes you along for a great, satirical ride that you won't soon forget. My #2 Verhoeven movie, behind only Starship Troopers. The remake is very bland, especially by comparison." ~KBM

"Very few movies scream "80s cheese" quite like RoboCop, and I mean that in a good way. It jumps back and forth between sci-fi thriller and comedy constantly. The performances are so overdone, it's difficult to tell what's bad acting and what's intentionally ridiculous. It doesn't exactly set a high bar as far as storytelling is concerned, but it never ceases to be silly fun. Also, RoboCop's big luscious lips are endlessly distracting and I'm not entirely sure what to do about that." ~Johnbobb

"MAN this is a good list when I have to feel bad about ranking RoboCop so low. On paper, RoboCop is a rather simplistic and gory action film, but you know what? I enjoyed it. I can enjoy a littler mindless action, especially when I realized that this was directed by Paul Verhoeven, who did Starship Troopers (and coming up chronologically on the list, Total Recall.) He has a penchant for directed these seemingly-mindless action movies, that really have a deeper meaning to them. In RoboCops case, the movie tries to keep itself grounded in reality by having those transitional news reports, but youve still got the aggressive violence indicated by the casual nature in which the police department clears out a dead officers locker. Plus theres the theme of the military industrial complex taking over basic functions of society. So yeah, this was another good one for me. Its got a LITTLE bit of cheesiness to it, but that kinda works in the movies favor, if Im being honest." ~Inviso

"I was a tad letdown by Robocop, as I was expecting a really fun movie that got me to like a character, see him die, but then see him be reborn as a badass killing machine. They got the fun part nailed down, since most Verhoeven are dripping with fun. And they got the badass killing machine part nailed down, since Robocop himself is an impressive specimen of destruction. But I did not get enough time to get to know Murphy himself long enough to be affected by his murder. We got little snippets of his personality, but it wasnt enough for my liking. Another 15-20 minutes would have been perfect. This is a movie that was too short and padding its runtime a bit with character development would have made it perfect. And while it does more than satisfy as a silly action movie with excellently evil Ronnie Cox being a top notch antagonist as usual, I was left wanting more.

Traviss Opinion: Wayyyyy too violent for Travis right now. Gotta wait to show him that one." ~Stifled

"What It Is: The Tin Man's life after the Wizard is chronicled.

Why It Matters: RoboCop launched an enduring franchise and propelled a character to cult icon status of the 80s. Not too shabby, eh?

What I Think: Biting satire and hidden depths are completely undone by a hamfisted script, poor editing, and mediocre acting. I always want to like this, but never can. At least his wrestling career is still an option, even if movies aren't in the cards." ~scarlet

"RoboCop is campy in the worst way- I mean the dude gets his arm blown off in one shot but then it takes a hundred more to end him. I just never got the love for this one. I did enjoy the robot that's supposed to take over the entire police force not being able to descend a staircase and the dude being fired leading to his demise. That latter bit was legitimately clever." ~Genny
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scarletspeed7
11/25/18 7:19:21 PM
#52:


The Outlander Game Part XXI: Robocockblocked

Stifled - 231
Wickle - 225
JONA - 206
Snake - 181
KBM - 171
Inviso - 168
Genny - 149
Karo - 146
Scarlet - 146
Charon - 137
Johnbobb - 135

Wickle made a huge play for #1, but Stifled is able to maintain to his lead.
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Johnbobb
11/25/18 7:23:50 PM
#53:


there goes bracket
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11/25/18 7:25:23 PM
#54:


Robocop is such an odd movie to be as good as it is. If you just read a synopsis it looks like random 80s schlock.
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v_charon
11/25/18 7:26:50 PM
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Dang Genny...
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JONALEON1
11/25/18 7:33:09 PM
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Johnbobb posted...
there goes bracket


one less bracket to worry about
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StifledSilence
11/25/18 8:53:47 PM
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With more character development for Murphy, Robocop would have easily been a top ten movie for me. All the other pieces were there.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/26/18 3:59:05 AM
#58:


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Robocop is such an odd movie to be as good as it is. If you just read a synopsis it looks like random 80s schlock.


It's kind of like a satire of it.

I remember even Siskel and Ebert praising it for that, noting that it felt like a breath of fresh air in a sea of dystopian future flicks.

Anyway yeah, another movie I'm a huge fan of, even if not quite to the extent of Blade Runner or 2001.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 12:24:44 PM
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#19 - The Fifth Element (1997)
Johnbobb - 10
Genny - 11
Charon - 13
Karo - 13
Stifled - 13
Inviso - 15
KBM - 24
scarlet - 24
JONA - 26
Snake - 28
Wickle - 30
Total: 207

"Nothing about this movie seems like a good idea on paper. Bruce Willis as a flying cab driver who crashes into a half-naked 20-year-old alien girl and Gary Oldman with some-weird ass hair hunting down some Infinity Stones and Chris Tucker at his loudest and most flamboyant with ever weirder-ass hair and everything dipped into a giant bucket of tie-dye paint and rejected Guillermo del Toro prosthetics. It's the Oops! All Berries of sci-fi and I LOVE IT" ~Johnbobb

"It's not difficult to see why The Fifth Element became a cult classic in the same vein as Rocky Horror Picture Show. The Movie has style if nothing else. But it does have something else. It has many things to offer such as a unique sense of humor and charm, stunning visuals achieved with practical effects, a refreshing plot, and memorable characters. It's honestly not a great movie that will withstand the test of time, but I wouldn't look at someone funny if they said The Fifth Element was their favorite film. It's got (earth! fire! wind! water!) heart!" ~Genny

"This is a weird one. I definitely enjoyed it, but it was at times all over the place too. The eclectic cast all work together pretty well, even though I will say it takes time to get used to Chris Tucker but strangely I enjoyed his part by the end of this. Zorg deserved/needed more screentime also in my opinion; I like zany and eccentric villains like this. What makes this film great are those characters and the way they interact with one another; what holds this back a bit is the overall plot, because it can end up being a little hard to follow and understand at times. Placing these enjoyable characters in a bit more coherent of a plot would have been golden, but this still has plenty of shine to it as it is." ~Charon

"In the far future, theres this hovertaxi driver who has a young alien girl drop in on him, and of course the government is after her because she is the mysterious 'fifth element' needed to summon Captain Planet and save all life from some sort of unexplained evil force. A stereotypical evil industrialist also wants the elements to give them to mr evil hate moon so he can destroy the universe, because clearly he has a long-term business strategy built around all of existence being atomized.
Every aspect of the movie is very bizarre, from the costumes to the very world itself, and strangely enough it works... to a certain extent.
There are a mite too many characters, and a lot of them are not very good. Korben and Leeloo are amazing as a pair and yet they sadly spend so little of the film together. Why would anyone ever want to focus on the heart of the movie when you can have the misadventures of Boring McPriesty or Chris Tucker squealing like a castrated pig?
It is a very different kind of sci-fi film, and the quality of the movie varies wildly depending on the quality of the weed Luc Besson is smoking at any given time, but when it is at its best it is quite a ride." ~Karo
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 12:24:55 PM
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"Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Bruce Willis. Long ago, the world lived in harmony. But everything changed when product placement attacked. Only the Supreme Being, master of all five elements, could save us. But when the world needed the Supreme Being most, he vanished into an ancient Egyptian tomb with spaceships and aliens and robots and shit. A random taxi driver found the new Supreme Being, an orange haired lady that got naked a lot. She still has a lot to learn, including English. But I believe Leeloo can save the world.

Traviss Opinion: Travis saw the guy in the Jedi robe at the beginning and yelled Star Wars! Then he decided to chase Cersei around the house and play with cars. He also stopped and danced when Bruce Williss alarm clock went off. " ~Stifled

"This is gonna sound weird, but The Fifth Element feels like a sci-fi parody movie that is played completely straight. Like, there are just so many clichs and corny sci-fi tropes that are executed in a comedic fashionyet at the same time, a good portion of the film feels like a standard movie that has a heart to it. Really, its only towards the back half of the film, on the hotel ship, where things start to get a little goofybut in a good way. Casting is solid: Bruce Willis plays a great everyman, Gary Oldmans villain is so weird and off-putting in all ways that he just works, and Milla Jovovich is a perfect alien because she cannot act like a human to save her life. Hell, I even enjoyed Chris Tuckers whiny histrionics, because he works well as the kind of guy you want to see smacked around by the hero.

The one thing Im gonna consider a flaw, however, is how the movie unravels a little as it gets towards the end. Leeloo is supposed to be this perfect beingfine. Corbin thinks shes hotwhatever floats your boat. But the bond they develop is so weird that it doesnt warrant the world-saving expression of love we get in the finale. Nor do I enjoy the scene of Leeloo, riddled with bullets, still finding the time to scan through an archive of human history of War, as though the movie has ANY sort of message about the horrors of war up until that point. Maybe they shouldnt have thrown in so many action scenes, including Leeloo kicking the ass of a roomful of aliens. But thats a minor nitpick and it doesnt take away from an awesome first 90% of the film with both great comedy and great action rolled up into one complete package." ~Inviso

"First of all, this is Luc Besson at his Luc Besson-iest, and I can't fault anyone for not digging his particular brand of lunacy as much as I do. There are a lot of movies that do similar things to The Fifth Element that I can't stand because it feels like they're trying too hard, but possibly because Besson never seems to take his own material that seriously, the silliness works here and makes the events of the movie feel even more alien. Hell, I even enjoy Chris Tucker's shrieking Ruby Rhod, even if it could be argued the character's portrayal is maybe a bit... (homophobic? transphobic? unclear) by today's standards. It works well along with the style of the film, much like Gary Oldman's unhinged villain acting that I love so much.

The biggest reservation I have with Le Cinquime lment is the way Milla Jovovich's character is treated more by Besson's camera (and the costume designer) than by the rest of the characters in the movie. She gives a cute performance, and the fish-out-of-water nature of her story does bring some laughs to the movie but WOW is it impossible to ignore how needlessly sexualized she is. I'm often able to overlook faults like this if the movie surrounding it is good enough, but this movie does NOT let up on poor Leeloo. Still, I'm more or less with Roger Ebert, in that this is one of the great goofy movies. Also, that opera scene is THE BOMB. I adore that ridiculous, unsingable aria." ~KBM
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 12:25:47 PM
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"What It Is: One of those movies where a director fell in love with Milla Jovovich and decided to make a movie just for her. No, really.

Why It Matters: Fifth Element spent years as the highest-grossing French film, and adjusted for inflation, it remains a top grosser to this day. It even made a strong impact in the US.

What I Think: I think this might honestly be the most lightweight movie on the entire list, and while it definitely is a Disney-for-teens style movie, I can't fault it for finding a style and really adhering to it. The boisterous, loud, over-the-top world that Besson has created definitely stands out among other science fiction worlds, but at times it simply becomes loud for loudness' sake. And I really think your mileage may vary when it comes to the function of the Big Bad. I think there's something to be said for this film just being sort of childish, which can be a good thing but honestly... never a great thing.
Nevertheless, Bruce Willis seems to be well-settled into his John McClane typecasting here, and Oldman and Jovovich do an admirable job. Oh, and what is the connection between The Fifth Element and The Dark Knight? Both films feature WWE main eventer Zeus!" ~scarlet

"Apparently, this idea was conceived from when the director was a teenager and it shows. The world is creative and colorful, the characters are fun and theres some decent action. Nothing too deep but definitely fun." ~JONA

"Bruce Willis plays a space version of John McClane in a film that never takes itself too seriously, but in the way that also never stops being fun. Some of the more outlandish elements such as Chris Tuckers Ruby Rhod can come close to grating but still feel appropriate for the films tone. Milla Jovovich really steals the show as Leeloo though." ~Snake

"A movie that built a concept and uh well might as well say it fucked it by the end. Plenty of the movie was literally just the writers talking with their dicks. It honestly did feel like watching a porn parody without the actual porn, just the occasional boob shot as the girl strips in some scenes. Still had some okay-ish scenes I guess." ~Wickle
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 12:28:16 PM
#62:


The Outlander Game Part XXII: The Stif Element

Stifled - 237
Wickle - 236
JONA - 213
Snake - 190
KBM - 176
Inviso - 172
Genny - 157
Karo - 152
Scarlet - 151
Johnbobb - 144
Charon - 143

Stifled holds a super-tenuous grip on the #1 spot with Wickle stealing the largest point grab on this ranking.
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JONALEON1
11/26/18 12:49:51 PM
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Man, I didn't even know Zeus was in The Dark Knight.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 12:50:28 PM
#64:


JONALEON1 posted...
Man, I didn't even know Zeus was in The Dark Knight.

He throws the detonator over the side of the boat.
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v_charon
11/26/18 2:10:15 PM
#65:


Well I'm finished in that guessing game.
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Lopen
11/26/18 2:52:57 PM
#66:


It's kinda weird that I feel like "fun movies with all style and no substance that don't really excel at anything but don't really offend me at all" basically fits all three of the previous three films to a t for me, moreso than most all the other movies on the list even. Like I'm definitely watching these movies to just turn my brain off and enjoy the weird settings they establish and mindless action more than anything in the plot I think. I guess I'd say Robocop has the most potential for an interesting plot there but they don't really go in on it whatsoever. Like if you were going to put a line between "decent movies" and "legit good movies" I'd probably put these 3 movies right on that line and probably about in the middle of the list as they are.

Weird that they all ended up in about the same spot (and roughly the right spot by my internal ordering) despite a wildly varied set of scores getting em to that point.
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LinkMarioSamus
11/26/18 4:11:18 PM
#67:


You don't like Robocop either? What DO you like?
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 4:45:30 PM
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I think when a movie has something to say (and it doesn't have to be particularly profound), it definitely helps bump the ranking over movies like Fifth Element for me. The things that really stick with me after the credits roll always overcome their iniquities while a movie like Fifth Element may be an enjoyable little romp. I just can't get as invested if there isn't just a little bit of oompf to the characters or the world, something that makes me think just a little. And even if you don't particularly want to dive into a doctoral dissertation with your film, I can still love it. But suddenly the premium is on everything in your film really sticking a landing in every scene. And Fifth Element is just too... loud for that.
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Lopen
11/26/18 5:21:22 PM
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Yeah I agree with that thought though I think my standards for it are much lower than even the ones you have that you consider low.

Like for me Total Recall (just barely) passes that test whereas it clearly didn't for you given your write-up and ranking. Meanwhile things like Fifth Element or Men In Black don't. That's not to say Total Recall is 'objectively better' or anything cause there are things those movies arguably do better but I think there's the bare minimum amount of substance in Total Recall to make me enjoy it a little more.

That's not to say I'm watching Total Recall for a different reason than those other movies, but that is a big part of why I can get just a little bit more out of it than those.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 7:28:27 PM
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#18 - Planet of the Apes (2001)
JONA - 3
Wickle - 4
Karo - 8
KBM - 10
Inviso - 17
Stifled - 20
Scarlet - 23
Charon - 27
Johnbobb - 28
Snake - 30
Genny - 33

Total: 203

"When the movie started, I thought it was taking too long to get to the setting established by the title of the movie but it was made clear once Charlton Hestons character was captured. The beginning helped establish that character and made it easier to empathize with him once he couldnt speak. Charlton Heston did a really great job in both, a speaking and non-speaking role. The society thats shown in the movie is also very intriguing and helps make the movie both thrilling and thought-provoking. The ending is iconic with both the imagery and Hestons acting." ~JONA

"Strange, but fun movie. I enjoy the development the story takes, including the main character realizing where he was the whole time was an apocalyptic earth when he found the Statue of Liberty. I also really love how my copy of the movie suddenly lost sound at that very scene, so he started to say something but no sound appeared. Guess I will just have to assume he said space balls." ~Wickle

"A group of spacemen on a millennia-long space flight crashland on a planet where sentient monkeys subjugate a race of mute human beings. Soon many stinking paws of damn dirty apes are laid on our wayward travelers and the last survivor is left at the mercy of the fucked up simian civilization.
This role reversal of man and beast is used to highlight the many failings of human society. Everything from animal testing to racism to organized religion to the nature of man gets mocked brilliantly and without mercy.
Charlton Heston's over-the-top performance as the jaded captain of the space crew is a big highlight of the movie, the man is a veritable memorable quote machine throughout the film.
Despite the slow pacing, the movie is never without tension. There is always something propelling the story forward towards its horrifying revelation at the end.
It is interesting to note how the audience's perception of apes vs men changes as the movie go on, particularly how Dr. Zaius goes from being seen as an ignorant religious fanatic to a rather sad individual who just wants to protect his people. By the time Taylor is done screaming obscenities at the whole human race you will probably feel like the whole situation is for the best in regards to the planet." ~Karo

"I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-A to chimpan-Zee!
Oh, you'll never make a monkey out of me...
Troy McClure, A Fish Called Selma

If any of you haven't seen that episode of The Simpsons, go watch it, it's one of the greats. Anyway, I was caught off-guard by Planet of the Apes. Before this list, I'd seen the Burton remake and the new reboot series, but I really never felt motivated to watch the original. What I didn't expect was for the original to be a genuine epic. This movie kind of has it all: gorgeous, sweeping photography of the Arizona desert, one of Jerry Goldsmith's best scores, the director of Patton, and great performances from the whole cast. Heston plays a '60s everyman who simultaneously yearns for societal progress and falls short of it himself but unlike some of the older movies on this list, it actually ties in nicely to the plot and themes for this guy to be a bit backwards. Charlton Heston isn't one of my favorite actors of the era, but he is perfectly cast here.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 7:28:50 PM
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After a very atmospheric, tense first act, Commander Taylor is of course captured by the intelligent apes of 3978. The apes are great here, too Zira in particular is just an extremely likable, layered character who brings a lot of personality to the movie. There's a lot of good commentary here about the shortcomings of human society, as the apes have developed a sort of Galileo-era theocracy based on their limited information regarding their progenitors. This leads to an extremely engaging trial scene (love the see no evil, speak no evil, and hear no evil monkeys on the bench), and then the rest has passed comfortably into the zeitgeist. The social commentary here is good and adds intrigue to the slower parts of the movie, but never overwhelms the story no small feat considering you're watching two hours of people in ape costumes, delivering oration written 50 years ago by the Twilight Zone guy." ~KBM

"First off, yes, Helena Bonham Carter in the remake is attractive. There I said it. Now with that out of the way, the original still holds up amazingly well. The plot is a bit ambiguous about the initial mission, but its not really a point A to point B kind of film. Its actually rather interesting to see human beings in an alien movie start out at the bottom. Usually they start at the top and some invader weakens them. But in this case, its just humans as subservient to the apes, which creates a unique dynamic of human beings as animals. Throw in somedisturbingly topical political commentary about the use of religion in governing a society, as well as genuine suspense as more and more of the mystery of society unfolded, and you wind up with an awesome movie. And the twist ending? Pretty fucking awesome in its own right." ~Inviso

"A true classic of the sci-fi genre, it has survived the test of time far better than James Francos version will. Charlton Heston is a surprising good actor. Its a shame people of today only know him as the NRA gun nut because he had a lot of talent back then. This movie has everything. It has action, a good cast, moral ambiguity, and real conflict on both sides of the equation. It wasnt simply RAWR APES BAD HUMANS GOOD but you could see both the right and the wrong in their approaches and I found that to be very refreshing.

Traviss Opinion: I was going to put Travis to bed, but he really wanted to stay up and watch this with me. He cuddled in bed with me and watched the first half hour, but couldnt stay up any longer. He seemed really into it though. I bet hed really like seeing the rest of it sometime. " ~Stifled

"What It Is: A thoroughly thought-provoking piece about racism told through the lens of a world far removed - and yet hauntingly familiar - to the viewer.

Why It Matters: It spawned a billion-dollar franchise and yet, for the most part, it has remained faithful to the exploration of segregation, fear of that which is difference, and an exploration of human nature.
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 7:29:46 PM
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What I Think: I feel like I'll land somewhere in the middle on this one, with a lot of loud, boisterous opinions on either end, so I'll just talk about what really struck me during this film: Roddy McDowall is a freaking stellar actor. In fact, of the two Roddys on this list, he was the best. In the past, I hadn't really come to appreciate his abilities except sparingly. Weirdly, his performance in That Darn Cat of all films is really, utterly hilarious. He's in so blasted many films and yet he often plays second fiddle to bigger actors or actresses. At the same time, he carries himself with that classic mid-20th century British decorum that you just can't find nowadays. He also has such a great range of emotion - I wish he had been cast as the Riddler at some point; he would've been brilliant. Anyways, that was me diverging from the standard 'blah blah monkeys' write-up to gush about my boy Roddy." ~scarlet

"Despite a few odd moments in the intro (what was up with that weird camera zoom in on Heston's laugh? I swear I was about to enter a Bee Gees video), this film's storytelling and pacing holds up very well. Even though I already knew that they had indeed returned to Earth and surmised that the humans that had sent them on their journey had killed one another, it was still a really novel concept. Of note, this is the one and only Apes film I have watched. I had never seen this one or any of the new films until this project began. I'm sort of glad at that since it's possible that my opinion on it could have been tainted if I had seen a newer version with better graphics and special effects. For when this was made, it was very good and believable once you settled in." ~Charon

"Sort of like with Invasion of the Body Snatchers, the main clip I had seen from this prior to watching the full movie was, of course, the twist ending (though, it's hard to imagine the twist being a suprise, even if I hadn't known in advance). What surprised me was hpw it ended up there. I went in expecting a lone human space adventurer exploring a world taken over by talking apes. I DIDN'T expect a heavy examination on the division between religion and science and their place in government. The movie makes you root for a narcissistic jerk (who takes a primal woman as a trophy wife?) and I have to kind of commend it for that." ~Johnbobb

"Despite its outlandish concept on paper, Planet of the Apes never manages to be preachy in its messages, simply laying the groundwork for some interesting thoughts that may cross your mind by the time its all over. With classic movie moments galore and Hestons great performance, Planet of the Apes is an enjoyable what-if scenario for our doomed planet, with a fantastically killer ending." ~Snake

"I for one find it amazing that Planet of the Apes did well enough to warrant so many sequels and a hard reboot/prequel. I mean... it's so damned ugly! Okay that was an in-joke. I know technology has come a long way, but look at the human actors portraying apes in 2001: A Space Odyssey which was made before this movie and somehow looks a hundred times more realistic- a thousand even! All I can do is laugh at the campy nature of it all. I feel like I would have enjoyed this more having gone in with no knowledge of all the parodies and all the quotes made of certain scenes because nothing in this movie really surprised me aside from the "Eve" of the group dying at the very beginning and the rest of the crew aside from the captain dying somewhere in the middle." ~Genny
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scarletspeed7
11/26/18 7:32:17 PM
#73:


The Outlander Game Part XXIII: Damned Dirty Ranks

Wickle - 250
Stifled - 239
JONA - 218
Snake - 202
KBM - 184
Inviso - 173
Genny - 172
Karo - 162
Scarlet - 156
Johnbobb - 154
Charon - 152

A lot of point-getting, but no real movement aside from Wickle putting up an 11-point lead. Can he blow this 11-0 lead?
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Johnbobb
11/26/18 7:34:38 PM
#74:


Planet of the Apes is solid enough, but I really didn't expect to see four top 10 placements from it
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Mega Mana
11/26/18 7:51:33 PM
#75:


Johnbobb posted...
Planet of the Apes is solid enough, but I really didn't expect to see four top 10 placements from it


I just went and noted that the first four were all for the Heston original thinking Inviso's was the first of the 2001 entries... but they're all Heston. That wasn't 2001 Planet of the Apes silly scarlet!
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11/26/18 7:52:54 PM
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Mega Mana posted...
That wasn't 2001 Planet of the Apes silly scarlet!

There was a milk carton with my joke and it said "Missing" on it.
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11/26/18 7:55:18 PM
#77:


Okay I thought I was crazy for a second there thank you Mega Mana for saving me from scarlet's cruel milk carton humor
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11/26/18 10:00:17 PM
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PotA is fantastic

I hear it's nothing like the book.
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11/26/18 11:20:34 PM
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I had no clue there was a book for PotA. And finally I can really look at people's lists for the series. I need to finish the movies.
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Inviso
11/26/18 11:30:03 PM
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Yeah, as I said in the prior topic regarding Soylent Green...Soylent Green was INTENTIONALLY sexist to establish its world. And yeah, the female characterization of a lot of the earlier films on the list was...lacking, to say the least. But Planet of the Apes was the only film we watched that felt sexist without that element being intended as part of the story the writers were telling. I dunno, Nova's inclusion and treatment is...odd in that way.
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11/27/18 12:49:31 AM
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I don't get how a lot of the comments made by many, many of the characters in the old films were in any way necessary to creating their world. Soylent Green is one thing, but all the other films? No way. PotA wasn't that sexist; they treated humans as illiterate animals basically. As humans we often treat female animals a certain way too, to assist them in breeding or encourage them not to. It's the way the humans were treated on that world, so it was how they behaved.
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11/27/18 11:51:07 AM
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#17 - Dark City (1998)
Karo - 3
KBM - 3
Snake - 3
Charon - 10
Wickle - 11
Stifled - 19
Johnbobb - 21
Inviso - 32
JONA - 33
scarlet - 33
Genny - 35
Total: 203

"An amazing sci-fi noir movie set in a 1940s-ish city where an amnesiac man struggles to put his memories together. Basically he is wanted for a murder that he is not sure if he committed or not, and he goes on the run from the police, his supposed psychiatrist, and aliens in trenchcoats.
There is an incredible mood to the world and the mystery at the heart of it, and is always engaging as the protagonist searches for the meaning of his existence and the location of of his supposed hometown of shell beach.
It probably would have been a bit better if they waited somewhat longer than they did to reveal the more outlandish elements of the plot to the viewers, to better preserve the air of mystery. But still, it is a highly entertaining movie that feels very different in a good way." ~Karo

"For my money, Alex Proyas' masterpiece Dark City is one of the most underrated movies of all time. It's a triumph of the darker, ultra-atmospheric side of the genre that I love so much. It's a movie that really captures the imagination and keeps you guessing along with its twists and turns, which really rewards you upon repeat viewings. Stylistically and thematically, it seems very likely The Matrix took a lot of cues from this movie or, at the very least, from the exact same sources as this movie. It's dark, grungy, and dirty, in a way that brings the world of the movie to life, but not in a way that's unpleasant to look at. The weird characters that populate this weird world are super memorable, especially Kiefer Sutherland's delightfully bizarre, quirky Dr. Schreber. Rufus Sewell is great, Jennifer Connelly is great even William Hurt, who I don't normally like all that much, is perfect for the role he's playing here. The shades of noir add a lot to the flavor and it's clear that this aspect inspired the actors to make a lot of fun choices and take a lot of risks that end up paying off. This is one I definitely enjoy showing to people for the first time. (Specifically the director's cut the theatrical edition has voice-over narration that takes away some of the mystery, although it's not as bad as the similar problem with the Blade Runner theatrical cut. Both due to executive meddling.)" ~KBM

"Timeless film that uses the best elements of noir and Gothicism to craft one of the scariest film narratives of all time. The cinematography is astonishingly good and Kiefer Sutherland turns in a killer performance. The film never leaves a twisted and ominous tone behind, with an ambient and frantic score underlining every scene. I dont think the nightmare of the Strangers will ever leave my memory, that is, if they dont erase it first." ~Snake

"While the Matrix got the reputation and the groundbreaking film, Dark City is very much akin to it in many ways. There are fight scenes featuring psychokinesis, though both the films treat this in different sorts of ways. There's also a world outside of the world that most people live in, with people never being the wiser. It's a bit more direct however, as this world only exists at night and unbelievably no one can even the last time they saw the sun. I ultimately thought this too was a great film, filled with its own sense of identity and style. Sometimes I think the city feels a bit like Gotham and sense an influence from that, as well as by the dark, gritty characters they used here. I'm an easy sucker for movies themed this way." ~charon
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11/27/18 11:51:34 AM
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"Plenty of those cyborgs that cannot understand humans and wish to understand them storylines about, and they can vary from good to bad always. This one was odd, being about overwritten memories and psychics that could control how the world worked, with the occasional person starting to notice after they find loopholes in their memories. I did not really like the concept of those overwritten memories, but that was the point.. I think the movie performed well in just pushing you to like the ordeals of the protagonist and see his growth. Topped off with a bittersweet ending, which if you have seen, you know what I mean anyway." ~Wickle

" I was convinced for about a half hour that this was a Tim Burton movie. I actually looked it up and was shocked to see it wasnt. I mean wowthis thing oozes Tim Burton. He probably watches this instead of porn to get off. But beyond that vibe, Dark City is quite good. I enjoyed the citys operation being comparable to the Dark Hour from Persona 3. It creates this air of mystery, making the viewer wonder if this city was stuck in a curse of some sort or was just straight up an artificial creation. I got a kick out of a few set pieces that were shared with The Matrix during filming, particularly the winding staircase. But the one thing I disliked was the main character. I did not care about him one bit. I didnt care if he was guilty or innocent (I actually leaned guilty most of the way). For me, he was a just a vehicle to see more of the city. A good comparison (maybe) would be comparing him to a subpar quarterback in football that would be referred to as a game manager. While someone like a Peyton Manning or a Drew Brees is a star that wins games with strong leadership and gameplay, Dark Citys main character just simply runs the offense like a Brady Quinn or a Brandon Weeden and shows no pizazz whatsoever.

Traviss Opinion: I let him watch this one because it didnt seem like a hard R rating. And besides the occasional head being split like a melon and the occasional boobs, it was pretty tame. Lucky for me Travis didnt start paying attention until the waving Shell Beach sign after the boobs!" ~Stifled

"I've been going back and forth on this movie for days since watching it. In some ways, the film is a little sloppy and campy, and not really in a way that felt intended. It's also surreal and bizarre and takes a bunch of pieces from various genres and squishes them together in a mish-mash of ideas that doesn't always work but IS always pretty damn cool." ~Johnbobb

"I can tell that this movie is well-made and stylistic and whatnot, but it just missed the mark a LITTLE bit for me. Its still really interesting, dont get me wrong. Its just missing something to really tie the plot together. The concept is GREAT. I love the idea of an alien species running an experiment in which human beings are their unwitting test subjects. And I love the concept of taking those humans and switching their entire lives around on a whim, just to see how things change for them each time. I appreciate the introduction of a human that sees what theyre doing and fights back. ButI feel like the movie doesnt QUITE delve deep enough into this concept, because theyre too focused on the noir and the mystery. We only really get to see two concrete examples of people being changed around. And then the movie ends with a psychic battle to the death. So yeahgreat concept, stylistically brilliantbut falls a little short in the execution." ~Inviso
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11/27/18 11:52:28 AM
#84:


"We built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control
Built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control

Say you do know me, and recognize my face
Say you care about what goes on in this place
Knee deep in the hoopla, Strangers I will fight
Too many mysteries, Whys it always night?
Emma sings well in the lounge
Listen to the audio, dont you remem-ber?
We built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control
Built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control
Strangers always playing
With citizens souls
Who cares theyre always changing
The citizens roles
We just want to live here
Somehow were in space
The Strangers are just observing
Our human race
Emma sings well in the lounge
Listen to the audio, dont you remem-ber?
We built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control
Built Dark City, we built Dark City on mind control

Eh fuck it Im done.
Man, this movie has a bunch of elements that should make me love this movie. Its got a noir-like atmosphere, a mysterious protagonist, a mysterious city and a detective. Sadly, the movie is all flash and no substance. Its a very creative flash though. The story isnt particularly noteworthy despite some memorable moments and the biggest thing going against the movie, is that the characters are just uninteresting. " ~JONA

"What It Is: To explain Dark City would be to ruin it. But suffice it to say, it begins as a potential noir detective film.

Why It Matters: This movie is said to have been an influence on both The Matrix and Inception, to giants in the genre, so that alone should be enough of a reason to watch it.

What I Think: There is some phenomenal visual work in this movie, but man, Alex Proyas is not a good writer. This was a phenomenally rough script that sort of meandered through a lot of good ideas without really nailing any of them. Some of this might have been the compression of a lot of events without any time to really let a character or an idea breathe for a moment, but I honestly think this is endemic of Proyas' somewhat weak writing. His work on successive science fiction films after Dark City really tells me that this isn't an abberation; Knowing and I Robot both suffer from big ideas weighed down by that "kid in a candy store" syndrome of jumping from one idea to the next quickly. To me, this would have worked extremely well in the hands of a more competent writer. Proyas demonstrates a really strong eye for detail in this film, and the camera is done a service by being put in his hand, but christ this is some disjointed writing. Which is too bad because, on the whole, there is a lot to like with this film.

I imagine other people will tell you 'this has great twists that keep you guessing'. It actually doesn't. This has a very badly crafted story that felt like a mini-series shoehorned into a feature film. Great twists and turns are founded upon the innate notion that there are characters that have been developed and therefore serve as proximate stakes for the viewer. This movie isn't really interested in engaging a viewer emotionally and more interested in blindly adhering to a script that was designed to do a thing and not be a thing." ~scarlet
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scarletspeed7
11/27/18 11:52:35 AM
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"I did not enjoy Dark City as a movie. While I was watching it I couldn't help but feel like it would work better as a series of novels, maybe graphic novels, and I refuse to research this, but if it's based on a series then one movie couldn't do it justice. It felt like 3 or 4 books crammed into a miserable 2 hour experience. Barely anything made sense, the special effects weren't very impressive, and Keifer Sutherland's line delivery was so distractingly awful that by the middle of the movie I wanted one of the vampire aliens to stick a syringe in his forehead and remove his memories of how to speak. YIKES! I think the worst aspect is that Dark City had the potential to be great with its unique concept and phenomenal world building (quite literally in some sense), but the way its confusing plot is poorly executed and its pacing is raced through killed any chance it had of being enjoyable to me." ~Genny
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scarletspeed7
11/27/18 11:56:06 AM
#86:


The Outlander Game Part XXIIV: darkx City

Wickle - 256
Stifled - 241
JONA - 234
Snake - 216
KBM - 198
Genny - 190
Inviso - 188
Karo - 176
Scarlet - 172
Charon - 159
Johnbobb - 158

Nothing to really report here as Wickle extends his lead after finally regaining it.
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Espeon
11/27/18 12:03:49 PM
#87:


Thats two perfect guesses after some...less than perfect guesses to start the top twenty.
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PrinceKaro
11/27/18 12:03:51 PM
#88:


wow you guys

this is the first time all project that I am surprised by a ranking
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scarletspeed7
11/27/18 12:11:25 PM
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JONA nailed that song.
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GenesisSaga
11/27/18 12:58:52 PM
#90:


v_charon posted...
Well I'm finished in that guessing game.

You finished me too!
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11/27/18 1:01:08 PM
#91:


Nice of darkx to get a pun despite not participating.
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11/27/18 1:09:59 PM
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I counted at least two scenes in which the main character of Dark City flees despite not being terribly outnumbered after discovering he has the ability to use their powers against them. There's never an explanation given for this, like say "the more he uses their psycho kinetic abilities the easier it is for them to track his location", it's like he just forgets they're present. On that subject there's a scene where a small vampire alien is literally holding a ceremonial dagger in his hands... and chooses to bite the protagonist instead. WTF? This is supposed to be an intelligent species capable of replicating a construct believable enough to trick a fraction of a population and one of them is playing with their food?
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StifledSilence
11/27/18 1:30:29 PM
#93:


GenesisSaga posted...
v_charon posted...
Well I'm finished in that guessing game.

You finished me too!


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11/27/18 4:23:46 PM
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Dark City is one of the movies I most want to see.

Scarlet, one of the writers was David S. Goyer, whose credits range from The Dark Knight Trilogy to Blade: Trinity and Batman v. Superman. You know who to blame.
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scarletspeed7
11/27/18 4:34:15 PM
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Yeah, that's a lot better than fucking Knowing and Gods of Egypt. I blamed who I blamed.
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v_charon
11/27/18 7:59:05 PM
#96:


PrinceKaro posted...
wow you guys

this is the first time all project that I am surprised by a ranking


I'm surprised you had this one that high too.
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11/27/18 9:25:16 PM
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#16 - Gattaca (1997)
Charon - 8
Genny - 9
Stifled - 9
Karo - 10
Scarlet - 10
Johnbobb - 14
Wickle - 17
Inviso - 21
KBM - 26
Snake - 26
JONA - 32


"A really touching story of human endurance and the sheer power of will set in the backdrop of a scifi influenced near-future. A more grounded film than most on this list, apparently NASA named this as the most plausible science fiction film. The world of Gattaca is a scary one; not from any sort of terrible beasts or invaders, but from the reinvention of what is basically segregation. Watching Vincent overcome these barriers while hiding who he really is is empowering to me. The message feels a lot like, "fight for your dreams, even if everyone tells you not to". I will say though I don't get why Eugene killed himself; it seemed to come out of nowhere for me. I get he was unhappy being confined to a wheelchair, but he seemed to be getting by before then. It was a sad note to end on, but an inspiring journey nevertheless." ~Charon

"I wasn't sure what to expect from Gattaca, but what I ended up getting was a scary look at a future that could conceivably happen when humans decide to play god. Actually this movie gave me Minority Report vibes, and made me wonder why that one didn't make this list over inane drivel like Barbarella. [Editor's Note: Because I had way too many early 2000s movies that you people have already seen.]" ~Genny

"I kinda thought this movie was gonna be a bunch of overblown science lectures about DNA and whatever. Thankfully I was very very wrong. Except for Uma Thurmans extremely wooden performance that was comparable to Cleveland from Family Guy reading excerpts from a newspaper, the cast was all aces here. The dynamic between the brothers and the dynamic between cheating brother and his DNA buddy were both the true driving points of the movie. The more I learned about them, the more connected I felt to their journey. The concept was a take on a utopian society that I had personally never seen before, so that was refreshing. I often go into these utopia movies being like yuuuuup utopias gonna utopia but I enjoyed the focus on health as opposed to purely money and power for once.

Traviss Opinion: Travis didnt care much for this one. In fact, he let me know in uncertain terms when he tried to take off a messy diaper and throw it at me. " ~Stifled

"In a future where advancements have given rise to a class of genetically perfect 'supermen', a naturally conceived man with 'inferior' DNA concocts an elaborate plan to get himself into the space program.
He assumes the identity of a crippled genetic paragon and goes through an extravagant routine to keep his subterfuge from coming to light. He and his 'double' have some great interactions together as they work to keep up the facade.
The tension mounts as a murder investigation and romantic entanglement further complicate matters, and despite its slow pace, the story always remains thrilling.
To the film's credit, it never stoops to demonizing the future society or gattaca corp, there is nothing inherently evil about wanting the best employee for your buck (or at least not have your astronaut die of a heart attack during liftoff). Rather, it is an inspiring underdog story of a man proving his detractors wrong and that he is strong enough to reach for the stars. Though it would have been a bit MORE inspiring if he did not have to basically defraud the space agency to realize his dream, but what are you gonna do." ~Karo
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11/27/18 9:25:35 PM
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"What It Is: Guanine, adenine, thymine, thymine, adenine, cytosine and adenine.

Why It Matters: This movie has become a textbook film in a lot of ethics courses and even general science courses in high schools and colleges, and it's one of the few films that really explores genetics/eugenics in a moralistic way.

What I Think: Very rarely do characters hit me this hard with flaws as massive and overstated as Jude Law and Ethan Hawke, but Gattaca is so generous with its subject matter that it allows me to vilify either character and empathize with these plights that feel relatable and yet completely foreign to me. In many ways, I think Jude Law's character is just so utterly fascinating that I'm gripped by his every decision. He's so unlikable and it's in that intolerance I have for the character and his unpitiable Miranda Lawson-like mopiness, that I find that he tugs at my heartstrings. There's something special to a movie that can create a world completely removed from the world I know, with an entirely different set of rules, and yet still give me the sort of primal emotions and lingering thoughts of melancholy afterwards that any real life experience could. And, to that end, the dual ignition sequence that caps the movie truly was a testament to Gattaca in the fact that I shed a couple tears - for the unlikable character no less - as the credits rolled. Moving, gripping, emotionally resonant." ~scarlet

"This is a gorgeous movie, and an excellent example of sci-fi done right. It does what Black Mirror does at its best. We're presented with a future that is frightening but believable. The future setting is not just a backdrop but a crucial piece of its storytelling. It tells a timeless, heart-wrenching tale of a man overcoming his weakness by any means necessary, told in a way that leaves us just a tiny bit hopeful about an otherwise dim future. Everything comes together to make the story strong but without ever coming across as particularly preachy or unrealistic. The only fault I really have is the overuse of expositional narration, but even then it just adds to the lore behind it all." ~Johnbobb

"Interesting concept on what they thought the world would be like a decade or two later, it tells a tale of people who believe their fate is decided the day theyre born. It may sound familiar with how some people are today, but this is because of science progressing to tell you everything your DNA says about your genetic code. That said, accidents can change your fate, such as car crashes and the like. We have the protagonist who is weak, and due to not being one of the elite because of genetic code, he has to parade as someone else, doing every bit of work so that no one can identify from any skin cell or other identifying methods. Did that final scene reveal that the doctor was his dad the whole time? Just asking, that was pretty cool." ~Wickle
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11/27/18 9:26:24 PM
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"I first saw this movie in high school when we were discussing genetics, and it still holds up. Its one of the least expansive movies on the list so far, and it doesnt require many (or any, even?) special effects to nail the sci-fi aspect of it plot. Its just a matter of creating the conceit of a society in which your genetic predisposition is enough for you to live comfortablyor live in a lower class. The general plot is interesting enough in its own right: guy with bad genes hires a crippled guy with good genes to give him his life, so he can become an astronaut. The bad gene guy works hard to prove nurture over nature, and everything works out for him. But what really impresses me is the amount of work that goes into maintaining the lie. All those contraptions for storing urine or blood or dead hair/skin cellsits really cool to picture this as being a reality. Its still a bit dark and gritty, but it works in this instance." ~Inviso

"We're making a statement about eugenics, and everybody's here! Seriously, a lot of people are here not only the obvious, our stars, Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman (both in good form), but also a veritable parade of likable character actors. George Mason is here! So is Hank Schrader, and Grandpa Edwin Hoover! The list goes on!

In all seriousness, this movie is really good for the most part, with a few problems. There're some clunky lines of dialogue, some pretty bad blue-screen effects, and there's also the absurd claim that Schubert's Impromptu No. 3 in G-flat major requires 12 fingers to play. The things that work really work, though, thanks to some well-paced editing, great cinematography, and strong performances from the aforementioned stacked cast, who are all giving this material their all. I will admit that Gattaca squicked me out, as a person who really hates needles and having her blood drawn, but in the way that seems to have been part of the idea of the film in the first place. I can see why it wasn't a huge crowd-pleaser in 1997, but I can definitely also see where its reputation as a critical darling and cult classic come from. Also, this movie features way better use of green as a prominent color than Soylent Green. Just saying." ~KBM

"An intelligent thriller that delves deep into human engineering, Hawke is great in the film and its ideas are always tense and exciting. Some of the other characters are relatively uninteresting and its concepts are always greater than its plot, but still its a film that got me thinking for sure. " ~Snake

"There are some intriguing ideas in this movie, but I feel those ideas arent explored as much as to my liking. Those ideas get overshadowed by the a simply okay romance and the hammering in of the message of the movie. The movie can also drag itself out a bit. " ~JONA
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scarletspeed7
11/27/18 9:30:28 PM
#100:


The Outlander Game Part XXV: JONACA
Wickle - 257
JONA - 250
Stifled - 248
Snake - 226
KBM - 208
Genny - 197
Inviso - 193
Karo - 182
Scarlet - 178
Charon - 167
Johnbobb - 160

JONA's outlier went up like a space ship, but despite a dramataca outlier increase, Wickle remains genetically predisposed to accruing outlier points.
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