Board 8 > Gauntlet Crew Ranks Sci Fi Films I-2

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scarletspeed7 12/07/18 12:05:08 PM #352:	Moon both follows in the footsteps of its predecessors by examining human responses to unusual imagined futuristic circumstances and delves into that old science fiction standby theme of investigating the nature of humanity itself. However, it also has room to criticize the current direction of humanity with the cynical observation that even with supposedly noble interests and armed with inventive solutions, humans will still find ways to cut ethical corners and damage their fellow man for the sake of economic efficiency.This film is a deliberately slow trip, recalling familiar old tones while also adding its own unique touches such as the brilliant subversion of the evil AI. Moon is the complete sci fi experience - it takes the issues of today and makes them the issues of tomorrow. It pessimistically shines a light on the utterly heinous actions of large corporations while not hammering home the concept in a hamfisted way. The script is so beautifully sparse, leaving so much implicit rather than explicit and allowing Sam Rockwell to fill the gaps with his performance. And when you leave things unsaid but understood, the viewer is able to imagine the world in a more meaningful way. The ideas of this movie really drive at the nature of humanity, whether on a micro level in the study of original identity and the nature of the value of life in a world where you can be robbed of the most basic human properties engrained since the dawn of our species, or on a macro level, where the study of corporate inhumanity and the ability to Halliburton and take advantage of unaware victims held under the iron grasp of a way-of-life-threatening catastrophe resonates clearly. All in all, it's a moving, heart-wrenching story with a beautiful ending that hints at just enough reality while still keeping its firmly planted in a different world. I couldn't ask for a better film to top my list." ~scarlet "An astronaut on a lunar energy farm ends up involved with strangeness when a vehicular accident results in him sharing the colony with a man who looks just like him. The air of mystery is top notch throughout the first half of the movie as they struggle to find out what the hell is going on. The two clones each have a distinct personality despite their identical appearance and all the interactions between them are great. Of special note is GERTY, the base computer, who redeems AIs in a big way after HAL's actions famously put them in a bad light. It is well written, always engaging, and will keep you entertained all the way through, and is a welcome addition to the sci-if genre." ~Karo "I never thought a movie about a guy stuck on a space station with a robot and a clone of himself could be so good, but here we are. I loved how the twists came slowly and gradually, but it never felt tedious or slow. I was on the edge of my seat waiting to see what was discovered next. What has happened to this man is heartbreaking and I legitimately felt awful for him. That kind of connection is hard to make with a viewer, but Moon pulls it off. Traviss Opinion: IMDB parents guide told me there was a fair bit of language in the movie so I had Travis skip it. And while they were right, I probably could have gotten away with letting him watch this. The subject matter got heavy, but I doubt it would have bothered him. I might let him in on the rewatch." ~Stifled --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913715143] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Moon both follows in the footsteps of its predecessors by examining human responses to unusual imagined futuristic circumstances and delves into that old science fiction standby theme of investigating the nature of humanity itself. However, it also has room to criticize the current direction of humanity with the cynical observation that even with supposedly noble interests and armed with inventive solutions, humans will still find ways to cut ethical corners and damage their fellow man for the sake of economic efficiency.This film is a deliberately slow trip, recalling familiar old tones while also adding its own unique touches such as the brilliant subversion of the evil AI. Moon is the complete sci fi experience - it takes the issues of today and makes them the issues of tomorrow. It pessimistically shines a light on the utterly heinous actions of large corporations while not hammering home the concept in a hamfisted way. The script is so beautifully sparse, leaving so much implicit rather than explicit and allowing Sam Rockwell to fill the gaps with his performance. And when you leave things unsaid but understood, the viewer is able to imagine the world in a more meaningful way. The ideas of this movie really drive at the nature of humanity, whether on a micro level in the study of original identity and the nature of the value of life in a world where you can be robbed of the most basic human properties engrained since the dawn of our species, or on a macro level, where the study of corporate inhumanity and the ability to Halliburton and take advantage of unaware victims held under the iron grasp of a way-of-life-threatening catastrophe resonates clearly. All in all, it's a moving, heart-wrenching story with a beautiful ending that hints at just enough reality while still keeping its firmly planted in a different world. I couldn't ask for a better film to top my list." ~scarlet "An astronaut on a lunar energy farm ends up involved with strangeness when a vehicular accident results in him sharing the colony with a man who looks just like him. The air of mystery is top notch throughout the first half of the movie as they struggle to find out what the hell is going on. The two clones each have a distinct personality despite their identical appearance and all the interactions between them are great. Of special note is GERTY, the base computer, who redeems AIs in a big way after HAL's actions famously put them in a bad light. It is well written, always engaging, and will keep you entertained all the way through, and is a welcome addition to the sci-if genre." ~Karo "I never thought a movie about a guy stuck on a space station with a robot and a clone of himself could be so good, but here we are. I loved how the twists came slowly and gradually, but it never felt tedious or slow. I was on the edge of my seat waiting to see what was discovered next. What has happened to this man is heartbreaking and I legitimately felt awful for him. That kind of connection is hard to make with a viewer, but Moon pulls it off. Traviss Opinion: IMDB parents guide told me there was a fair bit of language in the movie so I had Travis skip it. And while they were right, I probably could have gotten away with letting him watch this. The subject matter got heavy, but I doubt it would have bothered him. I might let him in on the rewatch." ~Stifled</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/07/18 12:06:31 PM #353:	"One day someone sat down and thought they were just so clever creating a "smart" space movie that would make you "think." They thought "Oh, I'll cast freakin Sam Rockwell to give a 'subtle' and 'realistic' performance" and "I'll create a future tech that is both 'fascinating' and 'deeply troubling'." And Mr. Smartypants just went ahead and wrote it and then some other smartass went and directed it and they got freakin Sam Rockwell of course and made one of the most "mentally stimulating" freakin sci-fi movies of the "21st century" freakin nerds." ~Johnbobb "A movie that gives off a sense of loneliness and the sense of knowing what is real or not usually does great with me. Sam Rockwell does a great job performing with himself and its intriguing to see how he deals with his possible conspiracy." ~JONA "After the near sex scene I went to check the rating of the movie and saw it was rated R for strong language and got afraid. Far from the irritation that was District 9, this was far more normal. A bit odd with some points, obviously was tough for me to watch when he was puking up blood, and didnt like how pissed off the younger one was, but it made a bit more sense after the older one talked about it. GERTY was so cute, just the emotes to properly give even the robot a little emotion, and just how sweet he was in helping them overall. I also like how the movie ends, not directly answering what will happen with the project, but letting it be up to your own jurisdiction that at least you know theres controversy. I hope the clone got to meet his daughter at least." ~Wickle "A masterclass on how to make an effective sci-fi film on a shoestring budget, Duncan Jones' 2009 debut Moon is still definitely his best work. It's a strong premise that gets brought to life by great design choices (including some marvelous practical effects), and an incredible performance from Sam Rockwell. The script unfolds all of its mysteries at a very satisfying pace, building up to an ending that feels both natural and surprising. Kevin Spacey, persona non grata though he may deservedly be, turns in a great vocal performance, which along with its smiley-face expressions really give GERTY a very distinctive personality that's like a friendlier cross between HAL-9000 and GlaDOS. The best part of Mute was a scene where you can see a courtful of angry Sam Rockwells screaming at each other in a televised trial on a TV in the background. Some of the bare bones of the movie, like the scene transitions and the editing, may be a little amateurish at times, but the great elements of Moon more than make up for its shortcomings." ~KBM --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913715233] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>"One day someone sat down and thought they were just so clever creating a "smart" space movie that would make you "think." They thought "Oh, I'll cast freakin Sam Rockwell to give a 'subtle' and 'realistic' performance" and "I'll create a future tech that is both 'fascinating' and 'deeply troubling'." And Mr. Smartypants just went ahead and wrote it and then some other smartass went and directed it and they got freakin Sam Rockwell of course and made one of the most "mentally stimulating" freakin sci-fi movies of the "21st century" freakin nerds." ~Johnbobb "A movie that gives off a sense of loneliness and the sense of knowing what is real or not usually does great with me. Sam Rockwell does a great job performing with himself and its intriguing to see how he deals with his possible conspiracy." ~JONA "After the near sex scene I went to check the rating of the movie and saw it was rated R for strong language and got afraid. Far from the irritation that was District 9, this was far more normal. A bit odd with some points, obviously was tough for me to watch when he was puking up blood, and didnt like how pissed off the younger one was, but it made a bit more sense after the older one talked about it. GERTY was so cute, just the emotes to properly give even the robot a little emotion, and just how sweet he was in helping them overall. I also like how the movie ends, not directly answering what will happen with the project, but letting it be up to your own jurisdiction that at least you know theres controversy. I hope the clone got to meet his daughter at least." ~Wickle "A masterclass on how to make an effective sci-fi film on a shoestring budget, Duncan Jones' 2009 debut Moon is still definitely his best work. It's a strong premise that gets brought to life by great design choices (including some marvelous practical effects), and an incredible performance from Sam Rockwell. The script unfolds all of its mysteries at a very satisfying pace, building up to an ending that feels both natural and surprising. Kevin Spacey, persona non grata though he may deservedly be, turns in a great vocal performance, which along with its smiley-face expressions really give GERTY a very distinctive personality that's like a friendlier cross between HAL-9000 and GlaDOS. The best part of Mute was a scene where you can see a courtful of angry Sam Rockwells screaming at each other in a televised trial on a TV in the background. Some of the bare bones of the movie, like the scene transitions and the editing, may be a little amateurish at times, but the great elements of Moon more than make up for its shortcomings." ~KBM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/07/18 12:06:34 PM #354:	"Theres something about a movie where its just one actor (well, kinda) having to carry an entire story by him or herself that I find fascinating. This movie starts out intriguing with that musical score that feels both whimsical and mysterious at the same time. And then were just thrown into this Moon base where Sam Rockwell is the sole human running things, coming to the end of his three-year contract. Watching the mundane activities of this lone guy is actually interesting, given the settingbut then the movie takes a more sci-fi (than being on a Moon base) twist by introducing clones, and the fact that the Sam Rockwell we met in the first part of the movieis merely a clone used to man the base and keep training costs down. The film then gets fun by having two Sam Rockwells interacting and dealing with clone shenanigansalthough the attempt at a more serious plot isnt perfect. Still, its cool, watching these two guys who are the same person behave in such wildly different fashions. Also cool that theres no the base is damaged and we have to escape plot like one might otherwise expect. I found the design of GERTY to be interesting as well. Its amazing how the filmmakers were able to successfully convey the emotional range of a robot using just emojis. They couldnt even do that in the Emoji Movie. So yeah, this was yet another really good film on this list." ~Inviso "Moon has an interesting spot on my list; it took the longest to watch, for some unknown reason I can't seem to remember. There were lots of problems involved with watching this movie to completion, I believe it had something to do with our cable services since we used Netflix for this one. I was worried about it because I did enjoy the movie but I didn't want any sort of outside interference to cause it to place out of place on my list. It's an interesting trip, that's for sure. Like a few other films on this list, I pictured this happening to myself. What if all my memories were just memories of the "original" me, and I was just a clone, a drone that was meant to only work, die and be replaced by another. Yet, watching the two interact was interesting because despite them being the same person, they had their own personalities as well. I assume it has to do with how much "older" one was than the other, and even though their lifespan is short, in that time they still gain their own "soul", so to speak. I wish the ending was a little more resolute, that's my biggest gripe." ~charon "Sam Rockwells intense and sad isolation & loneliness on the moon feels tangible and real. Theres a bit of psychological twist that plays with the viewers expectactions. I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake "I enjoyed Moon. It made me think and question aspects throughout the entire experience. I feel like this is a movie that's better viewed in the comfort of your own home so that you can speculate aloud without getting popcorn kernels thrown at you by an angry theater patron. " ~Genny --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913715235] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>"Theres something about a movie where its just one actor (well, kinda) having to carry an entire story by him or herself that I find fascinating. This movie starts out intriguing with that musical score that feels both whimsical and mysterious at the same time. And then were just thrown into this Moon base where Sam Rockwell is the sole human running things, coming to the end of his three-year contract. Watching the mundane activities of this lone guy is actually interesting, given the settingbut then the movie takes a more sci-fi (than being on a Moon base) twist by introducing clones, and the fact that the Sam Rockwell we met in the first part of the movieis merely a clone used to man the base and keep training costs down. The film then gets fun by having two Sam Rockwells interacting and dealing with clone shenanigansalthough the attempt at a more serious plot isnt perfect. Still, its cool, watching these two guys who are the same person behave in such wildly different fashions. Also cool that theres no the base is damaged and we have to escape plot like one might otherwise expect. I found the design of GERTY to be interesting as well. Its amazing how the filmmakers were able to successfully convey the emotional range of a robot using just emojis. They couldnt even do that in the Emoji Movie. So yeah, this was yet another really good film on this list." ~Inviso "Moon has an interesting spot on my list; it took the longest to watch, for some unknown reason I can't seem to remember. There were lots of problems involved with watching this movie to completion, I believe it had something to do with our cable services since we used Netflix for this one. I was worried about it because I did enjoy the movie but I didn't want any sort of outside interference to cause it to place out of place on my list. It's an interesting trip, that's for sure. Like a few other films on this list, I pictured this happening to myself. What if all my memories were just memories of the "original" me, and I was just a clone, a drone that was meant to only work, die and be replaced by another. Yet, watching the two interact was interesting because despite them being the same person, they had their own personalities as well. I assume it has to do with how much "older" one was than the other, and even though their lifespan is short, in that time they still gain their own "soul", so to speak. I wish the ending was a little more resolute, that's my biggest gripe." ~charon "Sam Rockwells intense and sad isolation & loneliness on the moon feels tangible and real. Theres a bit of psychological twist that plays with the viewers expectactions. I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake "I enjoyed Moon. It made me think and question aspects throughout the entire experience. I feel like this is a movie that's better viewed in the comfort of your own home so that you can speculate aloud without getting popcorn kernels thrown at you by an angry theater patron. " ~Genny</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/07/18 12:08:07 PM #355:	The Outlander Game Part XXXVI: Utter Lunarcy Wickle - 396 JONA - 356 Stifled - 347 Inviso - 322 KBM - 294 Snake - 286 Genny - 278 Karo - 273 Charon - 254 Scarlet - 241 Johnbobb - 229 Karo fell two spots. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913715353] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>The Outlander Game Part XXXVI: Utter Lunarcy Wickle - 396 JONA - 356 Stifled - 347 Inviso - 322 KBM - 294 Snake - 286 Genny - 278 Karo - 273 Charon - 254 Scarlet - 241 Johnbobb - 229 Karo fell two spots.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 12/07/18 12:20:12 PM #356:	Im pleasantly surprised that Moon took the top spot in terms of non-mainstream movies. Despite just barely ranking it in my top half, it was still extremely good. Also, all commentary on his rapist tendencies aside, I bet they only cast Kevin Spacey because of his name. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever https://imgur.com/SSw6M9E <cite>Espeon posted [p:913716124] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Im pleasantly surprised that Moon took the top spot in terms of non-mainstream movies. Despite just barely ranking it in my top half, it was still extremely good. Also, all commentary on his rapist tendencies aside, I bet they only cast Kevin Spacey because of his name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/07/18 12:25:27 PM #357:	I need to watch Moon again sometime, I appreciated it but couldn't really get into it. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913716414] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I need to watch Moon again sometime, I appreciated it but couldn't really get into it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sherry_Tueli 12/07/18 12:34:41 PM #358:	scarletspeed7 posted... I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake Ew, I clearly rated this movie too high. How dare this movie strip down and show me its naked glory. --- Wickle has gone mobile, with a loli. For Sugawara-sama. <cite>Sherry_Tueli posted [p:913716937] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake</quote> Ew, I clearly rated this movie too high. How dare this movie strip down and show me its naked glory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 12/07/18 12:41:43 PM #359:	Sherry_Tueli posted... scarletspeed7 posted... I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake Ew, I clearly rated this movie too high. How dare this movie strip down and show me its naked glory. lol I nearly spit out my drink! --- If the suspense doesn't kill you, something else will! http://tinyurl.com/zqwzc9a - https://i.imgtc.com/3qwvxhc.jpg <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:913717354] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sherry_Tueli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>I like how stripped down and simple it all feels."~Snake</quote> Ew, I clearly rated this movie too high. How dare this movie strip down and show me its naked glory.</quote> lol I nearly spit out my drink!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 12/07/18 4:04:44 PM #360:	lemme see dat big ol moon baby --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:913728618] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>lemme see dat big ol moon baby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:24:38 PM #361:	#4 - Back to the Future (1985) Wickle - 1 Johnbobb - 2 Charon - 5 Genny - 8 Karo - 9 JONA - 11 KBM - 11 Stifled - 11 Snake - 15 Inviso - 24 Scarlet - 37 Total: 134 "I will always love this movie. The humor, the music choices, Martys growth and forcing his dad to grow. And just Martys confusion in so many moments is fantastic. The doc might still be a loon, but it is entertaining to see the progression of even his character. Plus the ending is one of the greatest open endings of all time." ~Wickle "What do you even say about Back to the Future? Every single thing about this movie is near perfection for what it is. What a good fucking movie." ~Johnbobb "An easy to love classic that has a much different vibe than the rest of the films on this list. It has a lot of comedic overtones without actually being classified as a comedy film. Doc Brown, played by Christopher Lloyd, is a great "good" mad scientist parody and how can you not love Marty McFly? I especially loved seeing the change that Marty had inflicted on his parents by the end of the film; rarely, or at least on this list, do we see much in the way of changing the past so the future is a happier place. But imagine having to be George McFly's wingman, and your success determines whether or not you live or cease to be. Scary thought, because man was that guy a dork and a creeper. But in a good way of course." ~charon "Time travel is a tricky subject, but Back to the Future tackled it in a past where this subject wasn't explored in a thousand media already so no one really dissected this one at the time. That said there's obvious plot holes so I'm not going to go over them. It's a fun time travel adventure movie if you don't think too hard about it. " ~Genny "A teen from the 1980s accidentally goes back in time thirty years where he gets to meet his young parents and casually ravage the space-time continuum. He has to find way to make sure his parents still fall in love thus ensuring that he actually exists, yet is stymied by his dad being the biggest dweeb ever and his hot mom wanting to fuck him. The characters are the big stars here, from the cool-but-not-too-cool Marty to the lovably insane Doc Brown to hilariously flirtatious Lorraine. This brilliance is what makes everything worth watching, even when the story bogs down into boring teen drama. The movie worked very well for what it was and they probably shouldn't have have gone back (to the future), but thats a tale for another project." ~Karo "This movie is just filled with charm and whimsy. Its hard imagining someone not liking it. Marty and Doc are very likable characters and a bunch of funny moments. The movie has just the right mix of elements for a successful movie." ~JONA "It's hard to even know what to say about this movie that isn't already widely-felt. I've probably seen Back to the Future a dozen times, and if I do slightly prefer the underrated Part II (which definitely would have made it into my Top 10), this is still a fun, zany '80s classic that holds up, by and large, shockingly well, and remains one of Robert Zemeckis' best movies. The cast has great chemistry, Alan Silvestri's score is one of the all-time greats of the genre, the cinematography is pretty timelessly cool. The characters have all become part of our shared cultural mythos for a good reason. The series would eventually end not with a bang, but a whimper, with the tepid Part III, but the original entry's quick wit, undeniable charm, and infinite quotability can't be overstated." ~KBM --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779079] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>#4 - Back to the Future (1985) Wickle - 1 Johnbobb - 2 Charon - 5 Genny - 8 Karo - 9 JONA - 11 KBM - 11 Stifled - 11 Snake - 15 Inviso - 24 Scarlet - 37 Total: 134 "I will always love this movie. The humor, the music choices, Martys growth and forcing his dad to grow. And just Martys confusion in so many moments is fantastic. The doc might still be a loon, but it is entertaining to see the progression of even his character. Plus the ending is one of the greatest open endings of all time." ~Wickle "What do you even say about Back to the Future? Every single thing about this movie is near perfection for what it is. What a good fucking movie." ~Johnbobb "An easy to love classic that has a much different vibe than the rest of the films on this list. It has a lot of comedic overtones without actually being classified as a comedy film. Doc Brown, played by Christopher Lloyd, is a great "good" mad scientist parody and how can you not love Marty McFly? I especially loved seeing the change that Marty had inflicted on his parents by the end of the film; rarely, or at least on this list, do we see much in the way of changing the past so the future is a happier place. But imagine having to be George McFly's wingman, and your success determines whether or not you live or cease to be. Scary thought, because man was that guy a dork and a creeper. But in a good way of course." ~charon "Time travel is a tricky subject, but Back to the Future tackled it in a past where this subject wasn't explored in a thousand media already so no one really dissected this one at the time. That said there's obvious plot holes so I'm not going to go over them. It's a fun time travel adventure movie if you don't think too hard about it. " ~Genny "A teen from the 1980s accidentally goes back in time thirty years where he gets to meet his young parents and casually ravage the space-time continuum. He has to find way to make sure his parents still fall in love thus ensuring that he actually exists, yet is stymied by his dad being the biggest dweeb ever and his hot mom wanting to fuck him. The characters are the big stars here, from the cool-but-not-too-cool Marty to the lovably insane Doc Brown to hilariously flirtatious Lorraine. This brilliance is what makes everything worth watching, even when the story bogs down into boring teen drama. The movie worked very well for what it was and they probably shouldn't have have gone back (to the future), but thats a tale for another project." ~Karo "This movie is just filled with charm and whimsy. Its hard imagining someone not liking it. Marty and Doc are very likable characters and a bunch of funny moments. The movie has just the right mix of elements for a successful movie." ~JONA "It's hard to even know what to say about this movie that isn't already widely-felt. I've probably seen Back to the Future a dozen times, and if I do slightly prefer the underrated Part II (which definitely would have made it into my Top 10), this is still a fun, zany '80s classic that holds up, by and large, shockingly well, and remains one of Robert Zemeckis' best movies. The cast has great chemistry, Alan Silvestri's score is one of the all-time greats of the genre, the cinematography is pretty timelessly cool. The characters have all become part of our shared cultural mythos for a good reason. The series would eventually end not with a bang, but a whimper, with the tepid Part III, but the original entry's quick wit, undeniable charm, and infinite quotability can't be overstated." ~KBM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:24:49 PM #362:	"Ive seen all sorts of parodies for this movie, but I had never actually seen it until this list. And you know, it was quite good! I think Ive avoided watching it all this time because I dont like Michael J. Fox all that much. Hes pretty much the same in every movie/TV show he does. But it just so happens his personality works really well in this movie! I like the relationship between Rick and MortyerrDoc and Marty. I was rather surprised that Doc does shifty deals with terrorists, but I suppose it makes sense considering his influence on Rick Sanchez. But yeah, this is a good one. It has time travel that doesnt suck. It has likeable characters. It has a feel-good conclusion that actually changes things for the better for the cast. I really enjoyed it. Traviss Opinion: Travis stared a hole in those clocks. He also enjoyed all of the prom music and danced along to it. " ~Stifled "Great characters and hilarity makes this film one worth remembering. Marty McFly straddles that line between cool and dorky, and Doc Brown gives the film a madcap pace thats hard to match. The story is compelling and when Marty plays Johnny B. Goode at the school prom it all clicks together in a way thats ever so satisfying." ~Snake "Id never seen this movie before now, but I can definitely understand why its so beloved. I have a FEW nitpicks (mainly regarding the cheesiness of George and Biffs acting), but for the most part, I found the whole movie fun and interesting. Doc Browns frantic energy was very enjoyable to watch, and he added the RIGHT kind of cheesiness to the 50s background for most of the film. Marty himself was a fun little character. He never felt like some kind of Mary Sue, despite having a bunch of things go his way, and he was JUST the right amount of normal to offset the generic bullying of Biff, or the generic nerddom of George. Throw in some genuine time travel shenanigans (thatdid their best to maintain continuity), and you had a really fun semi-comedy to enjoy." ~Inviso --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779089] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>"Ive seen all sorts of parodies for this movie, but I had never actually seen it until this list. And you know, it was quite good! I think Ive avoided watching it all this time because I dont like Michael J. Fox all that much. Hes pretty much the same in every movie/TV show he does. But it just so happens his personality works really well in this movie! I like the relationship between Rick and MortyerrDoc and Marty. I was rather surprised that Doc does shifty deals with terrorists, but I suppose it makes sense considering his influence on Rick Sanchez. But yeah, this is a good one. It has time travel that doesnt suck. It has likeable characters. It has a feel-good conclusion that actually changes things for the better for the cast. I really enjoyed it. Traviss Opinion: Travis stared a hole in those clocks. He also enjoyed all of the prom music and danced along to it. " ~Stifled "Great characters and hilarity makes this film one worth remembering. Marty McFly straddles that line between cool and dorky, and Doc Brown gives the film a madcap pace thats hard to match. The story is compelling and when Marty plays Johnny B. Goode at the school prom it all clicks together in a way thats ever so satisfying." ~Snake "Id never seen this movie before now, but I can definitely understand why its so beloved. I have a FEW nitpicks (mainly regarding the cheesiness of George and Biffs acting), but for the most part, I found the whole movie fun and interesting. Doc Browns frantic energy was very enjoyable to watch, and he added the RIGHT kind of cheesiness to the 50s background for most of the film. Marty himself was a fun little character. He never felt like some kind of Mary Sue, despite having a bunch of things go his way, and he was JUST the right amount of normal to offset the generic bullying of Biff, or the generic nerddom of George. Throw in some genuine time travel shenanigans (thatdid their best to maintain continuity), and you had a really fun semi-comedy to enjoy." ~Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:25:38 PM #363:	"What It Is: A story about incest. Why It Matters: A supremely successful film of the 80s, this sits up there with mainstays of the decade such as Beverly Hills Cop and Ghostbusters. What I Think: For me, this movie is cartoonish, loud and ultimately empty. Back to the Future has an interesting premise that is underdeveloped and overproduced. The idea of the script is fine, but there's just no inventiveness or subtlety to anything in this film. The delicate situation of Marty's mother being tempted by Marty in the past just plays out with a faintly rancid taste. This same lack of awareness about a touchy subject plays out in the supposedly iconic scene where Marty takes the stage with a group of black musicians and a white high school. Of course, we know that small-town white folks in 1955 would never allow this to happen, and the room for social commentary between the decades is left empty. Alarmingly so. There's room here for this movie to be Pleasantville before Pleasantville or to have just a modicum of substance, but it forgoes that for the most average, thoughtless pursuit possible. At the same time, the movie focuses on extremely loud, broad, boring characters. Michael J. Fox has always been best used as a bad guy or quasi-bad guy; his charm works best when it pits itself against the viewer's rational understanding of a character. Spin City featured a slightly more cutthroat Michael J. Fox; The Good Wife understood that he should be a villain; Curb Your Enthusiasm topped them all with the most dickish behavior. Here, Marty's selfish pursuit of repairing his life is just not aided by a lack of awareness that Fox is at his best with a little bit of larceny. We're forced to rely on the stakes presented in the plot to believe he's a hero (despite his incapability of adequately dealing with incest-like behavior). There is, unfortunately, never a second's doubt that he'll manage any of these feats. The movie goes to great lengths to have the ever-cartoonish Christopher Lloyd shout loudly (apparently this is acting) a very simple plan that makes the Mark Wahlberg Italian Job heist look like the solution to a Gordian knot and then just let it play out slowly and without any real suspense. The outcome of the film ultimately is just hollow and sort of materialistic, and it's never buttressed along the way with anything of depth or nuance. It's a movie for stupid people. Or children. And that's the same thing, really." ~scarlet --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779136] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>"What It Is: A story about incest. Why It Matters: A supremely successful film of the 80s, this sits up there with mainstays of the decade such as Beverly Hills Cop and Ghostbusters. What I Think: For me, this movie is cartoonish, loud and ultimately empty. Back to the Future has an interesting premise that is underdeveloped and overproduced. The idea of the script is fine, but there's just no inventiveness or subtlety to anything in this film. The delicate situation of Marty's mother being tempted by Marty in the past just plays out with a faintly rancid taste. This same lack of awareness about a touchy subject plays out in the supposedly iconic scene where Marty takes the stage with a group of black musicians and a white high school. Of course, we know that small-town white folks in 1955 would never allow this to happen, and the room for social commentary between the decades is left empty. Alarmingly so. There's room here for this movie to be Pleasantville before Pleasantville or to have just a modicum of substance, but it forgoes that for the most average, thoughtless pursuit possible. At the same time, the movie focuses on extremely loud, broad, boring characters. Michael J. Fox has always been best used as a bad guy or quasi-bad guy; his charm works best when it pits itself against the viewer's rational understanding of a character. Spin City featured a slightly more cutthroat Michael J. Fox; The Good Wife understood that he should be a villain; Curb Your Enthusiasm topped them all with the most dickish behavior. Here, Marty's selfish pursuit of repairing his life is just not aided by a lack of awareness that Fox is at his best with a little bit of larceny. We're forced to rely on the stakes presented in the plot to believe he's a hero (despite his incapability of adequately dealing with incest-like behavior). There is, unfortunately, never a second's doubt that he'll manage any of these feats. The movie goes to great lengths to have the ever-cartoonish Christopher Lloyd shout loudly (apparently this is acting) a very simple plan that makes the Mark Wahlberg Italian Job heist look like the solution to a Gordian knot and then just let it play out slowly and without any real suspense. The outcome of the film ultimately is just hollow and sort of materialistic, and it's never buttressed along the way with anything of depth or nuance. It's a movie for stupid people. Or children. And that's the same thing, really." ~scarlet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:27:02 PM #364:	The Outlander Game Part XXXVII: Lack of a Future Wickle - 399 JONA - 363 Stifled - 354 Inviso - 342 KBM - 301 Snake - 297 Genny - 282 Karo - 278 Scarlet - 274 Charon - 255 Johnbobb - 231 The only real note is that I moved up one spot. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779196] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>The Outlander Game Part XXXVII: Lack of a Future Wickle - 399 JONA - 363 Stifled - 354 Inviso - 342 KBM - 301 Snake - 297 Genny - 282 Karo - 278 Scarlet - 274 Charon - 255 Johnbobb - 231 The only real note is that I moved up one spot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 12/08/18 3:27:48 PM #365:	I feel like Scarlet and I had the same thoughts on the movie, but I was just way more tolerant of it. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:913779226] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I feel like Scarlet and I had the same thoughts on the movie, but I was just way more tolerant of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/08/18 3:27:58 PM #366:	LOL scarlet. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913779238] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>LOL scarlet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:28:28 PM #367:	Your write-up suggests otherwise. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779259] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Your write-up suggests otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:29:56 PM #368:	LinkMarioSamus posted... LOL scarlet. Bro, at least I have opinions that I can back up with actual reasoning unlike you, who has yet to make a single post that isn't just stating your opinion without any substance. And that's not just a post about this thread, that's everywhere. The reason I know you don't have opinions is because you posted that way before you could have read these write-ups. You just look at numbers because you're a Twitter intellectual. I'd rather have an outlying opinion that I can explain than have an inline opinion that I can't articulate because I got it from a Youtube video. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779323] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>LOL scarlet.</quote> Bro, at least I have opinions that I can back up with actual reasoning unlike you, who has yet to make a single post that isn't just stating your opinion without any substance. And that's not just a post about this thread, that's everywhere. The reason I know you don't have opinions is because you posted that way before you could have read these write-ups. You just look at numbers because you're a Twitter intellectual. I'd rather have an outlying opinion that I can explain than have an inline opinion that I can't articulate because I got it from a Youtube video.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/08/18 3:37:54 PM #369:	Fine, that was a knee-jerk reaction, and that was mostly in terms of how different your view was. Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect? Then again you had similar criticisms for RoboCop, which I also absolutely adore. Probably both movies just sucked me in to the point where I didn't mind or flat-out liked the stuff in them that irritates you. In hindsight, some of those points can probably explain why I don't like Back to the Future more than I do, but for me they feel like nitpicks. Just weird to see you zero in on the film being awful for those reasons, but for me the film did so much right that I didn't care. And it's never fun seeing someone take a steaming dump on something you have fond memories of, especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. But that being said, my post was initially aimed SOLELY at the fact your opinion was so different, not that it was "wrong". I simply found it amusing. And, again, just got too defensive. And I'm not even someone who has BTTF in their top 5 or something. I dunno. I think most of the time I only watch movies if I'm interested in them, so I rarely react to popular movies in such a way. For this list it seems like the only motivation some of you had to watch the films was for this countdown. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913779728] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Fine, that was a knee-jerk reaction, and that was mostly in terms of how different your view was. Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect? Then again you had similar criticisms for RoboCop, which I also absolutely adore. Probably both movies just sucked me in to the point where I didn't mind or flat-out liked the stuff in them that irritates you. In hindsight, some of those points can probably explain why I don't like Back to the Future more than I do, but for me they feel like nitpicks. Just weird to see you zero in on the film being awful for those reasons, but for me the film did so much right that I didn't care. And it's never fun seeing someone take a steaming dump on something you have fond memories of, especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. But that being said, my post was initially aimed SOLELY at the fact your opinion was so different, not that it was "wrong". I simply found it amusing. And, again, just got too defensive. And I'm not even someone who has BTTF in their top 5 or something. I dunno. I think most of the time I only watch movies if I'm interested in them, so I rarely react to popular movies in such a way. For this list it seems like the only motivation some of you had to watch the films was for this countdown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:42:35 PM #370:	LinkMarioSamus posted... Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect? Yes, no film from the 80s is capable of having nuance. LinkMarioSamus posted... especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. Nothing is immune to criticism. And those nitpicks are kind of, you know, the entirety of the movie. And this write-up was designed to explain why I ranked it so low relative to this list, not why it would sit pretty well on any other gauntlet list we've done. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913779929] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect?</quote> Yes, no film from the 80s is capable of having nuance. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. </quote> Nothing is immune to criticism. And those nitpicks are kind of, you know, the entirety of the movie. And this write-up was designed to explain why I ranked it so low relative to this list, not why it would sit pretty well on any other gauntlet list we've done.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroSignal620 12/08/18 3:43:14 PM #371:	Aw :/ that'd be my #1 myself. Though out of the 3 films remaining, two of them would be solid choices for #1 as well --- Formerly known as Raven 2 http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/ZeroSignal620.png <cite>ZeroSignal620 posted [p:913779955] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Aw :/ that'd be my #1 myself. Though out of the 3 films remaining, two of them would be solid choices for #1 as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 3:43:37 PM #372:	Honestly, I do take offense to straight up it being said that you have to be stupid or a child to enjoy this movie. Like not everyone intelligent has to be a dialogue nut like you. While I cannot disagree that I am very childish still, it's not like everyone who could enjoy this film is like me. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913779972] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I do take offense to straight up it being said that you have to be stupid or a child to enjoy this movie. Like not everyone intelligent has to be a dialogue nut like you. While I cannot disagree that I am very childish still, it's not like everyone who could enjoy this film is like me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:44:58 PM #373:	WickIebee posted... Honestly, I do take offense to straight up it being said that you have to be stupid or a child to enjoy this movie. Like not everyone intelligent has to be a dialogue nut like you. While I cannot disagree that I am very childish still, it's not like everyone who could enjoy this film is like me. It's the persona of the write-up. You gotta chill. You also changed my words. I just said it's a movie for those people. Not that you HAVE to be stupid to enjoy it. You put words in my mouth, buckaroo. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913780042] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>WickIebee posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly, I do take offense to straight up it being said that you have to be stupid or a child to enjoy this movie. Like not everyone intelligent has to be a dialogue nut like you. While I cannot disagree that I am very childish still, it's not like everyone who could enjoy this film is like me.</quote> It's the persona of the write-up. You gotta chill. You also changed my words. I just said it's a movie for those people. Not that you HAVE to be stupid to enjoy it. You put words in my mouth, buckaroo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/08/18 3:49:44 PM #374:	scarletspeed7 posted... LinkMarioSamus posted... Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect? Yes, no film from the 80s is capable of having nuance. LinkMarioSamus posted... especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. Nothing is immune to criticism. And those nitpicks are kind of, you know, the entirety of the movie. And this write-up was designed to explain why I ranked it so low relative to this list, not why it would sit pretty well on any other gauntlet list we've done. The first one was meant more towards the unfortunate implications aspect. And TBH if you think it's bad in Back to the Future, just wait until you see its sequels, or Forrest Gump. Just do yourself a favor and never watch another Robert Zemeckis film in your life ever again. If your nitpicks are the entirety of the movie, how come I remember so much other stuff about it before I get to that? And how come your write-up makes it seem like a completely different movie from the one I remember so fondly, versus everyone else's write-ups. Not saying you shouldn't have your own opinion. Again, I just got defensive. Also, if Back to the Future lacks nuance, please explain to me why it was very deservedly IMO nominated for a Screenplay Oscar. A sci-fi film getting an Oscar nomination for its writing is pretty much a Wonder of the World. And explain why it has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. You can LOL Rotten Tomatoes and the Oscars all you want. But lots of people can't be wrong, right? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913780287] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>Thinking about it I understand your view, but NONE of that is what comes to mind at all when I think of Back to the Future. And even then, it's a film from the '80s. What on earth did you expect?</quote> Yes, no film from the 80s is capable of having nuance. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>especially when that something is largely immune to criticism. </quote> Nothing is immune to criticism. And those nitpicks are kind of, you know, the entirety of the movie. And this write-up was designed to explain why I ranked it so low relative to this list, not why it would sit pretty well on any other gauntlet list we've done.</quote> The first one was meant more towards the unfortunate implications aspect. And TBH if you think it's bad in Back to the Future, just wait until you see its sequels, or Forrest Gump. Just do yourself a favor and never watch another Robert Zemeckis film in your life ever again. If your nitpicks are the entirety of the movie, how come I remember so much other stuff about it before I get to that? And how come your write-up makes it seem like a completely different movie from the one I remember so fondly, versus everyone else's write-ups. Not saying you shouldn't have your own opinion. Again, I just got defensive. Also, if Back to the Future lacks nuance, please explain to me why it was very deservedly IMO nominated for a Screenplay Oscar. A sci-fi film getting an Oscar nomination for its writing is pretty much a Wonder of the World. And explain why it has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. You can LOL Rotten Tomatoes and the Oscars all you want. But lots of people can't be wrong, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 3:50:48 PM #375:	I seriously doubt the writers had the intention of writing this just so people of lesser intellect and children could enjoy it. It's still trying to say that anyone who can't write the dialogue and development of literal perfection must be written for dumbshits. Sure, I'm still putting words in your mouth but I can't take it any other way. Especially pinging me and telling me I apparently can't read for one error of enjoyment. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913780329] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I seriously doubt the writers had the intention of writing this just so people of lesser intellect and children could enjoy it. It's still trying to say that anyone who can't write the dialogue and development of literal perfection must be written for dumbshits. Sure, I'm still putting words in your mouth but I can't take it any other way. Especially pinging me and telling me I apparently can't read for one error of enjoyment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/08/18 3:52:03 PM #376:	Back to the Future is probably one of the best-written sci-fi films ever. But TBH I understand scarlet's criticisms, I was just taken aback by how harsh they were while everyone else was gushing over the film. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913780399] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Back to the Future is probably one of the best-written sci-fi films ever. But TBH I understand scarlet's criticisms, I was just taken aback by how harsh they were while everyone else was gushing over the film.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:53:59 PM #377:	LinkMarioSamus posted... The first one was meant more towards the unfortunate implications aspect. And TBH if you think it's bad in Back to the Future, just wait until you see its sequels, or Forrest Gump. Just do yourself a favor and never watch another Robert Zemeckis film in your life ever again. Of course I've seen those films, plus another handful of Zemeckis films. And let me tell you, Forrest Gump has a lot of room for great discussion and subversion of stereotypes and a wicked satirical criticism of American society. This movie lacks any and all of that. It's a Dreamworks film. I also much prefer BTTF2 to BTTF1. LinkMarioSamus posted... Also, if Back to the Future lacks nuance, please explain to me why it was very deservedly IMO nominated for a Screenplay Oscar. A sci-fi film getting an Oscar nomination for its writing is pretty much a Wonder of the World. A) It helps that the really weighty scripts were all adaptations that year. B) Out of Fucking Africa won like a bajillion awards that year. It was a light year. C) Literally Cocoon won an Oscar for acting. It was a REALLY light year. D) If I based all of my opinions of Academy Awards, it would be like basing my opinions of games on Let's Plays. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913780490] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>The first one was meant more towards the unfortunate implications aspect. And TBH if you think it's bad in Back to the Future, just wait until you see its sequels, or Forrest Gump. Just do yourself a favor and never watch another Robert Zemeckis film in your life ever again.</quote> Of course I've seen those films, plus another handful of Zemeckis films. And let me tell you, Forrest Gump has a lot of room for great discussion and subversion of stereotypes and a wicked satirical criticism of American society. This movie lacks any and all of that. It's a Dreamworks film. I also much prefer BTTF2 to BTTF1. <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>Also, if Back to the Future lacks nuance, please explain to me why it was very deservedly IMO nominated for a Screenplay Oscar. A sci-fi film getting an Oscar nomination for its writing is pretty much a Wonder of the World.</quote> A) It helps that the really weighty scripts were all adaptations that year. B) Out of Fucking Africa won like a bajillion awards that year. It was a light year. C) Literally Cocoon won an Oscar for acting. It was a REALLY light year. D) If I based all of my opinions of Academy Awards, it would be like basing my opinions of games on Let's Plays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 3:55:59 PM #378:	scarletspeed7 posted... B) Out of f*ing Africa won like a bajillion awards that year. It was a light year. Can't believe such a movie won so many awards, 0/10 movie just for having fucking in its title. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913780589] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>B) Out of f*ing Africa won like a bajillion awards that year. It was a light year.</quote> Can't believe such a movie won so many awards, 0/10 movie just for having fucking in its title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:56:34 PM #379:	WickIebee posted... I seriously doubt the writers had the intention of writing this just so people of lesser intellect and children could enjoy it. It's still trying to say that anyone who can't write the dialogue and development of literal perfection must be written for dumbshits. Sure, I'm still putting words in your mouth but I can't take it any other way. Especially pinging me and telling me I apparently can't read for one error of enjoyment. The reason I pinged you had less to do with the write-up and more to do with engaging the one person who actually responds anymore to respond again so the thread would get posts. And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913780615] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>WickIebee posted...</cite> <quote>I seriously doubt the writers had the intention of writing this just so people of lesser intellect and children could enjoy it. It's still trying to say that anyone who can't write the dialogue and development of literal perfection must be written for dumbshits. Sure, I'm still putting words in your mouth but I can't take it any other way. Especially pinging me and telling me I apparently can't read for one error of enjoyment.</quote> The reason I pinged you had less to do with the write-up and more to do with engaging the one person who actually responds anymore to respond again so the thread would get posts. And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 3:57:52 PM #380:	LinkMarioSamus posted... Back to the Future is probably one of the best-written sci-fi films ever. But TBH I understand scarlet's criticisms, I was just taken aback by how harsh they were while everyone else was gushing over the film. Again, I'm aware of the popularity of the film and my placement of it, so I wrote my write-up with those things in mind. If this was on a Dreamworks list, it would have landed Top 5 and I would've probably said absolutely nothing about the film because it didn't need to be said to justify my placement. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913780686] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>Back to the Future is probably one of the best-written sci-fi films ever. But TBH I understand scarlet's criticisms, I was just taken aback by how harsh they were while everyone else was gushing over the film.</quote> Again, I'm aware of the popularity of the film and my placement of it, so I wrote my write-up with those things in mind. If this was on a Dreamworks list, it would have landed Top 5 and I would've probably said absolutely nothing about the film because it didn't need to be said to justify my placement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 4:01:05 PM #381:	scarletspeed7 posted... And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing. An assumption, I know you're a dialogue nut so typically if I see you dislike something I just assume it's dialogue. I see otherwise now, it was tough to catch which side of it you were on through the write-up. I can understand simple concept being this placement. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913780842] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing.</quote> An assumption, I know you're a dialogue nut so typically if I see you dislike something I just assume it's dialogue. I see otherwise now, it was tough to catch which side of it you were on through the write-up. I can understand simple concept being this placement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 4:04:42 PM #382:	WickIebee posted... scarletspeed7 posted... And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing. An assumption, I know you're a dialogue nut so typically if I see you dislike something I just assume it's dialogue. I see otherwise now, it was tough to catch which side of it you were on through the write-up. I can understand simple concept being this placement. Yeah, it's really, for me, that on this list of other movies that try to take a concept and use it to serve as inspiration or allegory for other more meaningful issues, it chooses to wave at those opportunities as they pass it by. I don't think Moon has particularly great dialogue, but it's where Moon chooses to not use dialogue that makes the movie so meaningful to me. And the concept really plays with a lot of subject matter that makes me think. I have to actively not think to try and enjoy BTTF. And while, yes, there are "dumb" things I enjoy, this is one of those movies I just find to be extremely, extremely average. I'm devoid of emotion while watching it. Nothing really resonates with me. In a lot of ways, it's like Interstellar. EDIT: I'm not saying that a movie has to be an intellectual heavyweight or anything to do well on my ratings. One of the three movies left is my #3, and I consider all of them to be pretty lightweight. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913781000] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>WickIebee posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>And please tell me where I say anything about the dialogue. I don't. You can have brilliant big ideas and bad writing. This is good writing on a flawed and simple concept for me. That's a very different thing.</quote> An assumption, I know you're a dialogue nut so typically if I see you dislike something I just assume it's dialogue. I see otherwise now, it was tough to catch which side of it you were on through the write-up. I can understand simple concept being this placement.</quote> Yeah, it's really, for me, that on this list of other movies that try to take a concept and use it to serve as inspiration or allegory for other more meaningful issues, it chooses to wave at those opportunities as they pass it by. I don't think Moon has particularly great dialogue, but it's where Moon chooses to not use dialogue that makes the movie so meaningful to me. And the concept really plays with a lot of subject matter that makes me think. I have to actively not think to try and enjoy BTTF. And while, yes, there are "dumb" things I enjoy, this is one of those movies I just find to be extremely, extremely average. I'm devoid of emotion while watching it. Nothing really resonates with me. In a lot of ways, it's like Interstellar. EDIT: I'm not saying that a movie has to be an intellectual heavyweight or anything to do well on my ratings. One of the three movies left is my #3, and I consider all of them to be pretty lightweight.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/08/18 4:11:35 PM #383:	Well for me what makes BTTF so well-written is how many things it brilliantly sets up earlier in the film which come into play later on. But in hindsight I can understand why someone wouldn't be into this. That's what I meant by "nitpicks" to me they are nitpicks because they are not what I remember about the film. To me it seems like scarlet wanted BTTF to be a vastly different film that it is. It's largely just trying to be a fun ride and not much more, and again I can see where one might have a problem with this. But to me and many others it not only succeeds at what it sets out to do with flying colors, it also has certain aspects that keep us coming back. Can you tell I love this movie? And I've only seen it twice, once in 2013 and once in 2016. So it's not like it's some childhood favorite of mine or anything. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913781313] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Well for me what makes BTTF so well-written is how many things it brilliantly sets up earlier in the film which come into play later on. But in hindsight I can understand why someone wouldn't be into this. That's what I meant by "nitpicks" to me they are nitpicks because they are not what I remember about the film. To me it seems like scarlet wanted BTTF to be a vastly different film that it is. It's largely just trying to be a fun ride and not much more, and again I can see where one might have a problem with this. But to me and many others it not only succeeds at what it sets out to do with flying colors, it also has certain aspects that keep us coming back. Can you tell I love this movie? And I've only seen it twice, once in 2013 and once in 2016. So it's not like it's some childhood favorite of mine or anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 4:23:12 PM #384:	Definitely no childhood nostalgia for me here either, though it comes at the surprise of no one that it would top my list. Especially when my list is RomComs, coming up after this one. That said, I did deserve my #1 not winning this, though I wish my 23 fell first. I really don't want it to win. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913781904] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Definitely no childhood nostalgia for me here either, though it comes at the surprise of no one that it would top my list. Especially when my list is RomComs, coming up after this one. That said, I did deserve my #1 not winning this, though I wish my 23 fell first. I really don't want it to win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 12/08/18 4:27:52 PM #385:	Responding to LMS specifically, while I did praise BttF in my write-up, I still think that, for all the praise and 97% on RottenTomatoes that it gets...it's overrated given the quality of the writing and characterization. I mean, it's fun, but so much of the movie features characters that feel like one-note caricatures, to make the plot easier to tell. That doesn't RUIN the movie for me, but it definitely is a knock against it. --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:913782135] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Responding to LMS specifically, while I did praise BttF in my write-up, I still think that, for all the praise and 97% on RottenTomatoes that it gets...it's overrated given the quality of the writing and characterization. I mean, it's fun, but so much of the movie features characters that feel like one-note caricatures, to make the plot easier to tell. That doesn't RUIN the movie for me, but it definitely is a knock against it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 12/08/18 5:17:38 PM #386:	man I thought for sure Back to the Future would be number one. I don't think I've ever in my life met someone that disliked it and somehow me and Wickle are the ones most in agreement here, wtf --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:913784310] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>man I thought for sure Back to the Future would be number one. I don't think I've ever in my life met someone that disliked it and somehow me and Wickle are the ones most in agreement here, wtf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 12/08/18 5:29:09 PM #387:	I mean, when the film isn't overly mature in content and you like it, you're probably in agreement with Wickle. --- I'll just go back to gifs. Not like the winner was gonna click my topic. https://imgur.com/SXyi7uX <cite>WickIebee posted [p:913784829] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I mean, when the film isn't overly mature in content and you like it, you're probably in agreement with Wickle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/08/18 6:27:53 PM #388:	LinkMarioSamus posted... To me it seems like scarlet wanted BTTF to be a vastly different film that it is. It's largely just trying to be a fun ride and not much more, and again I can see where one might have a problem with this. But to me and many others it not only succeeds at what it sets out to do with flying colors, it also has certain aspects that keep us coming back. Again, I wrote my write-up the way I did because to me this is an average movie, and for this list, average is extremely low. So in order to be in keeping with my placement, I gave a write-up that suited it, explaining why for me this movie doesn't resonate at all. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913787308] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkMarioSamus posted...</cite> <quote>To me it seems like scarlet wanted BTTF to be a vastly different film that it is. It's largely just trying to be a fun ride and not much more, and again I can see where one might have a problem with this. But to me and many others it not only succeeds at what it sets out to do with flying colors, it also has certain aspects that keep us coming back.</quote> Again, I wrote my write-up the way I did because to me this is an average movie, and for this list, average is extremely low. So in order to be in keeping with my placement, I gave a write-up that suited it, explaining why for me this movie doesn't resonate at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 12/08/18 7:33:59 PM #389:	Oh wow. I thought for sure BTTF would make the final two. As others have pointed out, Ive never known anyone that didnt super gush over it. Interesting! Im glad it didnt. --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:913790419] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Oh wow. I thought for sure BTTF would make the final two. As others have pointed out, Ive never known anyone that didnt super gush over it. Interesting! Im glad it didnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StifledSilence 12/09/18 5:19:18 PM #390:	Boop --- Bear Bro The Empire of Silence <cite>StifledSilence posted [p:913838508] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Boop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/09/18 5:45:03 PM #391:	To bring up something from earlier, I adore 2001: A Space Odyssey (though when I watched it earlier this year I didn't like it as much as I used to) because of how it tells the story of mankind largely through visuals alone. Maybe that sounds pretentious, but that's just how I see it. I agree the film could probably be trimmed a good deal and not lose much, but I can't think of any other flaw. The film is incredibly visually stunning for something from 50 years ago. And without Space Odyssey, you probably wouldn't have Star Wars. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913839955] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>To bring up something from earlier, I adore 2001: A Space Odyssey (though when I watched it earlier this year I didn't like it as much as I used to) because of how it tells the story of mankind largely through visuals alone. Maybe that sounds pretentious, but that's just how I see it. I agree the film could probably be trimmed a good deal and not lose much, but I can't think of any other flaw. The film is incredibly visually stunning for something from 50 years ago. And without Space Odyssey, you probably wouldn't have Star Wars.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/09/18 5:47:58 PM #392:	Back to the Future is very meh. I never liked it because the past in it doesn't really feel any different than the current day (the 80s) with a different coat of paint. There were a lot of movies and TV shows that had captured a feeling of "this is the past/future", even then. I always liked The Wonder Years for example largely because that felt like it was a past time. It's basically a generic comedy with a time travel gimmick. The time travel is wholly irrelevant to it. The only thing I can disagree with Scarlet on is dissing Doc Brown. He was fine for what he does. Dude being zany was the only high point of the movie --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:913840130] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Back to the Future is very meh. I never liked it because the past in it doesn't really feel any different than the current day (the 80s) with a different coat of paint. There were a lot of movies and TV shows that had captured a feeling of "this is the past/future", even then. I always liked The Wonder Years for example largely because that felt like it was a past time. It's basically a generic comedy with a time travel gimmick. The time travel is wholly irrelevant to it. The only thing I can disagree with Scarlet on is dissing Doc Brown. He was fine for what he does. Dude being zany was the only high point of the movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/09/18 5:50:46 PM #393:	I get what you mean, but to me much of the dynamic of the film is the '50s viewed through the perspective of the '80s, and that was where Zemeckis brainstormed the whole idea of the film. So the time travel is FAR from irrelevant to it. You just think it is because you want your time travel media to feature people time travelling a ton. I fail to see how time travel is any less irrelevant to Back to the Future than it is to Terminator. Anyway, maybe it's because I'm judging films like Back to the Future and Robocop for how they work as movies, while others are judging them through other criteria. Also I think I slightly prefer both those films to the original Terminator, which in hindsight feels super impressive for how much mayhem goes on in a film with such a low budget and how it manages to keep up such a frenetic pace while finding time for a healthy amount of character development but was bettered by its sequel in almost every way. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913840291] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I get what you mean, but to me much of the dynamic of the film is the '50s viewed through the perspective of the '80s, and that was where Zemeckis brainstormed the whole idea of the film. So the time travel is FAR from irrelevant to it. You just think it is because you want your time travel media to feature people time travelling a ton. I fail to see how time travel is any less irrelevant to Back to the Future than it is to Terminator. Anyway, maybe it's because I'm judging films like Back to the Future and Robocop for how they work as movies, while others are judging them through other criteria. Also I think I slightly prefer both those films to the original Terminator, which in hindsight feels super impressive for how much mayhem goes on in a film with such a low budget and how it manages to keep up such a frenetic pace while finding time for a healthy amount of character development but was bettered by its sequel in almost every way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/09/18 5:55:25 PM #394:	I'm saying it's time travel with no thought into it It's basically a stand up routine where you want an excuse to make the subject of the jokes based around time travel. Which is fine for what it is but that's nothing I'm super big on The quantity of time travel is irrelevant but the past should feel like the past rather than the present with bubblegum pop --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:913840553] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>I'm saying it's time travel with no thought into it It's basically a stand up routine where you want an excuse to make the subject of the jokes based around time travel. Which is fine for what it is but that's nothing I'm super big on The quantity of time travel is irrelevant but the past should feel like the past rather than the present with bubblegum pop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/09/18 5:58:10 PM #395:	Again, that does not sound like the film I remember at all, although to be fair I remember feeling similarly about the future in Back to the Future 2 (which feels like a generic sequel redeemed by Biff Trump). And additionally it's not like things change so drastically. New York didn't look much different in the '70s than it does now. I understand why you might not like that but it's not like it has no basis in reality. Although I guess then you could criticize BTTF for not being ambitious enough. But the director literally came up with the idea after flipping through his high school yearbook. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913840705] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Again, that does not sound like the film I remember at all, although to be fair I remember feeling similarly about the future in Back to the Future 2 (which feels like a generic sequel redeemed by Biff Trump). And additionally it's not like things change so drastically. New York didn't look much different in the '70s than it does now. I understand why you might not like that but it's not like it has no basis in reality. Although I guess then you could criticize BTTF for not being ambitious enough. But the director literally came up with the idea after flipping through his high school yearbook.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 12/09/18 6:07:35 PM #396:	It's mostly society that changes. Scarlet had a great example of the type of thing I'm talking about. scarletspeed7 posted... This same lack of awareness about a touchy subject plays out in the supposedly iconic scene where Marty takes the stage with a group of black musicians and a white high school. Of course, we know that small-town white folks in 1955 would never allow this to happen, and the room for social commentary between the decades is left empty. For me it's less about "lack of social commentary" and more that it breaks immersion or the feeling that we're actually in the 50s. There are a lot of things strewn throughout the film in the past that are basically things that feel straight out of the 80s. Something like this may come off as nitpicky to you but for me it's what keeps the movie from being legit really fun and unique and basically just makes it an above average generic 80s comedy. Generic 80s comedies aren't exactly my cup of tea. Gun to my head I still like the movie. But it could be a lot better. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:913841289] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>It's mostly society that changes. Scarlet had a great example of the type of thing I'm talking about. <cite>scarletspeed7 posted...</cite> <quote>This same lack of awareness about a touchy subject plays out in the supposedly iconic scene where Marty takes the stage with a group of black musicians and a white high school. Of course, we know that small-town white folks in 1955 would never allow this to happen, and the room for social commentary between the decades is left empty. </quote> For me it's less about "lack of social commentary" and more that it breaks immersion or the feeling that we're actually in the 50s. There are a lot of things strewn throughout the film in the past that are basically things that feel straight out of the 80s. Something like this may come off as nitpicky to you but for me it's what keeps the movie from being legit really fun and unique and basically just makes it an above average generic 80s comedy. Generic 80s comedies aren't exactly my cup of tea. Gun to my head I still like the movie. But it could be a lot better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/09/18 6:54:41 PM #397:	#3 - The Matrix (1999) Karo - 1 Charon - 2 Inviso - 2 Stifled - 2 Genny - 6 Wickle - 6 KBM - 9 Scarlet - 20 Snake - 21 JONA - 27 Johnbobb - 29 Total: 125 "The Wachowskis' masterpiece about a dystopian future where machine overlords have trapped humanity in a virtual reality yet nobody realizes it. The main character is an ordinary office worker who discovers the horrible truth about the fate of the human race. and that he is some sort of chosen one. Though it may have spawned a never-ending cadre of edgelord Editor's Note: Karo used a banned word at this point. You really have to learn to not waste my time with your vulgarity when I post these.] in black trenchcoats, it will never diminish the genius of the concept or the feeling of watching something big and important that you get all throughout the movie's runtime. The stakes are huge, the story is mind-blowing, and it is an experience like none other. It is a timeless classic of sci-fi that few movies in its genre can ever hope to stand up to." ~Karo Probably what I consider the most important and impactful science fiction films of our (generally speaking for this group's age) generation. The Matrix is stylish, original and introduces so many lasting concepts that would go on to shape film and games for years to come. Are the characters as deep and resonating as some from other films? Maybe, maybe not. But they're all so fucking cool it doesn't really matter. I know some people like to give Keanu Reeves a hard time for his acting abilities, but honestly I love him as Neo. He plays the role as it's meant to be played to me. The story itself is an interesting one, and like most people probably do, I had to stop and think for a moment about actually living in this reality. The old "what if we are in the matrix?" quandary. Outside of the thought provoking world it creates, the movie really shines with its action scenes. At the time they were revolutionary, and even now they're fluid and extremely enjoyable. " ~charon "Forget about the two horrible sequels (although Ill stand by the fact that Reloaded was fun in terms of the action scenes) and just focus on the original Matrix film. Its amazing. The special effects hold up amazingly well, and those that stand out as cheesier can easily be explained away by the fact that everything is taking place inside a computer program, so it doesnt NEED to look perfect. But yeah, this movie introduced the concept of bullet time, it did wire-fu in an amazing fashion, and it just managed to turn a sci-fi concept into a kick-ass action film. Despite his lacking range as an actor, Keanu Reeves plays the blank slate hero extremely well, allowing him to serve as an audience stand-in for the heady philosophical concepts about life and reality. And Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith is one of the greatest characters and one of the greatest villains in the history of fiction. Hes just so unsettling in the role that it elevates the film even farther. And that doesnt even take into account the general concept behind having a movie set in the real world, only to have it turn out that what we consider to be the real world is actually a computer simulation being run by machines to keep humans complacent. This opens up SO many avenues for not only the defiance of gravity in fight/chase choreography, but also conservations about the very nature of existence. The film manages to ground itself in a modern setting while still implementing sci-fi elements regarding the growth of computer programming in the late 90s. All-in-all, the movie is amazingly fun to watch, the cast is great outside of Apoc, and I just really really enjoyed it." ~Inviso --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913844361] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>#3 - The Matrix (1999) Karo - 1 Charon - 2 Inviso - 2 Stifled - 2 Genny - 6 Wickle - 6 KBM - 9 Scarlet - 20 Snake - 21 JONA - 27 Johnbobb - 29 Total: 125 "The Wachowskis' masterpiece about a dystopian future where machine overlords have trapped humanity in a virtual reality yet nobody realizes it. The main character is an ordinary office worker who discovers the horrible truth about the fate of the human race. and that he is some sort of chosen one. Though it may have spawned a never-ending cadre of edgelord Editor's Note: Karo used a banned word at this point. You really have to learn to not waste my time with your vulgarity when I post these.] in black trenchcoats, it will never diminish the genius of the concept or the feeling of watching something big and important that you get all throughout the movie's runtime. The stakes are huge, the story is mind-blowing, and it is an experience like none other. It is a timeless classic of sci-fi that few movies in its genre can ever hope to stand up to." ~Karo Probably what I consider the most important and impactful science fiction films of our (generally speaking for this group's age) generation. The Matrix is stylish, original and introduces so many lasting concepts that would go on to shape film and games for years to come. Are the characters as deep and resonating as some from other films? Maybe, maybe not. But they're all so fucking cool it doesn't really matter. I know some people like to give Keanu Reeves a hard time for his acting abilities, but honestly I love him as Neo. He plays the role as it's meant to be played to me. The story itself is an interesting one, and like most people probably do, I had to stop and think for a moment about actually living in this reality. The old "what if we are in the matrix?" quandary. Outside of the thought provoking world it creates, the movie really shines with its action scenes. At the time they were revolutionary, and even now they're fluid and extremely enjoyable. " ~charon "Forget about the two horrible sequels (although Ill stand by the fact that Reloaded was fun in terms of the action scenes) and just focus on the original Matrix film. Its amazing. The special effects hold up amazingly well, and those that stand out as cheesier can easily be explained away by the fact that everything is taking place inside a computer program, so it doesnt NEED to look perfect. But yeah, this movie introduced the concept of bullet time, it did wire-fu in an amazing fashion, and it just managed to turn a sci-fi concept into a kick-ass action film. Despite his lacking range as an actor, Keanu Reeves plays the blank slate hero extremely well, allowing him to serve as an audience stand-in for the heady philosophical concepts about life and reality. And Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith is one of the greatest characters and one of the greatest villains in the history of fiction. Hes just so unsettling in the role that it elevates the film even farther. And that doesnt even take into account the general concept behind having a movie set in the real world, only to have it turn out that what we consider to be the real world is actually a computer simulation being run by machines to keep humans complacent. This opens up SO many avenues for not only the defiance of gravity in fight/chase choreography, but also conservations about the very nature of existence. The film manages to ground itself in a modern setting while still implementing sci-fi elements regarding the growth of computer programming in the late 90s. All-in-all, the movie is amazingly fun to watch, the cast is great outside of Apoc, and I just really really enjoyed it." ~Inviso</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/09/18 6:54:46 PM #398:	"An awesome sci-fi classic that hits every note it tries for. The Wachowski sisters have never managed to make massive exposition dumps as engaging and immersive as they are here. A lot of the CGI work is still incredible, even by today's standards, and the action is extremely well-choreographed and compelling without going off the deep end like the sequels do at times (particularly Revolutions; I have a soft spot for Reloaded but the Burly Brawl really is terrible). Keanu Reeves is an actor who needs the right role to be successful, and he has rarely been as right for a role than he is here." ~KBM "What It Is: A place with no spoons. Why It Matters: It revolutionized the direction of blockbusters and science fiction films for the better... and maybe the worse too. What I Think: Imaginative and enjoyable, this movie would do better on a list without a lot of thoughtful, heavyweight pictures with some real substance. There's a lot of worldbuilding and innovation which I respect here, however. The Matrix creates a certain ambience that has become iconic and allows its lines to flourish and become memorable. It just lacks a certain thoughtfulness that would let it play in the upper echelon of this list." ~scarlet "Still a landmark in action and sci-fi, that manages to be both brainy and fun at the same time. The Matrix occassionally collapses under its boat-load of influences but it never loses sight of its main reality concept and each action setpiece is better than the next." ~Snake "Hey, a movie I omitted from my martial arts list. I dont think I wouldve ranked it that high if I did put it on there. I do like the world and atmosphere of The Matrix. The effects and choreography of The Matrix are still good, although Im not particularly amazed by it. The characters are cool despite being wooden. Morpheus is rad, and Keanu Reeves has some fun, silly lines as Neo. His romance, if you can even call it that, with Trinity is poorly done though. I wouldnt mind it if it was just something on the side, but it ends up saving Neo because yeah. The movie thinks its deep, but I dont dislike the movie despite its failed attempt. Its just cool and flashy." ~JONA "I'm honestly a little hesitant to admit it, but I've always found The Matrix to be pretty overrated. I think this is my... third time seeing it? Every time, I think, yeah, it's fine. Solid enough action but it's never really blown me away. Maybe it's because by the time I had first seen it, bullet-time had already been done to hell by everything to come after, but I never think of it as something particularly cool, especially in The Matrix itself. Don't get me wrong, it's a decent enough movie. Morpheus is awesome, and overall The Wachowskis are damn good directors. It just never lived up to the hype as one of the greatest of all time. Also, Cypher was right." ~Johnbobb --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913844364] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>"An awesome sci-fi classic that hits every note it tries for. The Wachowski sisters have never managed to make massive exposition dumps as engaging and immersive as they are here. A lot of the CGI work is still incredible, even by today's standards, and the action is extremely well-choreographed and compelling without going off the deep end like the sequels do at times (particularly Revolutions; I have a soft spot for Reloaded but the Burly Brawl really is terrible). Keanu Reeves is an actor who needs the right role to be successful, and he has rarely been as right for a role than he is here." ~KBM "What It Is: A place with no spoons. Why It Matters: It revolutionized the direction of blockbusters and science fiction films for the better... and maybe the worse too. What I Think: Imaginative and enjoyable, this movie would do better on a list without a lot of thoughtful, heavyweight pictures with some real substance. There's a lot of worldbuilding and innovation which I respect here, however. The Matrix creates a certain ambience that has become iconic and allows its lines to flourish and become memorable. It just lacks a certain thoughtfulness that would let it play in the upper echelon of this list." ~scarlet "Still a landmark in action and sci-fi, that manages to be both brainy and fun at the same time. The Matrix occassionally collapses under its boat-load of influences but it never loses sight of its main reality concept and each action setpiece is better than the next." ~Snake "Hey, a movie I omitted from my martial arts list. I dont think I wouldve ranked it that high if I did put it on there. I do like the world and atmosphere of The Matrix. The effects and choreography of The Matrix are still good, although Im not particularly amazed by it. The characters are cool despite being wooden. Morpheus is rad, and Keanu Reeves has some fun, silly lines as Neo. His romance, if you can even call it that, with Trinity is poorly done though. I wouldnt mind it if it was just something on the side, but it ends up saving Neo because yeah. The movie thinks its deep, but I dont dislike the movie despite its failed attempt. Its just cool and flashy." ~JONA "I'm honestly a little hesitant to admit it, but I've always found The Matrix to be pretty overrated. I think this is my... third time seeing it? Every time, I think, yeah, it's fine. Solid enough action but it's never really blown me away. Maybe it's because by the time I had first seen it, bullet-time had already been done to hell by everything to come after, but I never think of it as something particularly cool, especially in The Matrix itself. Don't get me wrong, it's a decent enough movie. Morpheus is awesome, and overall The Wachowskis are damn good directors. It just never lived up to the hype as one of the greatest of all time. Also, Cypher was right." ~Johnbobb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/09/18 6:57:14 PM #399:	The Outlander Game Part XXXVIII: Enter the Third Place Wickle - 402 JONA - 387 Stifled - 355 Inviso - 343 KBM - 307 Snake - 315 Scarlet - 291 Genny - 285 Karo - 280 Johnbobb - 257 Charon - 256 Wickle is the first to cross 400. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913844560] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>The Outlander Game Part XXXVIII: Enter the Third Place Wickle - 402 JONA - 387 Stifled - 355 Inviso - 343 KBM - 307 Snake - 315 Scarlet - 291 Genny - 285 Karo - 280 Johnbobb - 257 Charon - 256 Wickle is the first to cross 400.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 12/09/18 7:00:54 PM #400:	The Outlander Game Part XXXVIII: Enter the Third Place Wickle - 402 JONA - 387 Stifled - 355 Inviso - 343 KBM - 307 Snake - 315 Scarlet - 291 Genny - 285 Karo - 280 Johnbobb - 257 Charon - 256 Wickle is the first to cross 400. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:913844799] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>The Outlander Game Part XXXVIII: Enter the Third Place Wickle - 402 JONA - 387 Stifled - 355 Inviso - 343 KBM - 307 Snake - 315 Scarlet - 291 Genny - 285 Karo - 280 Johnbobb - 257 Charon - 256 Wickle is the first to cross 400.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 12/09/18 7:04:20 PM #401:	Last time I saw The Matrix I thought it was somewhat overhyped. Been thinking of giving it another go sometime. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:913845048] in Gauntlet C... [t:77231113]...</cite> <quote>Last time I saw The Matrix I thought it was somewhat overhyped. Been thinking of giving it another go sometime.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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