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I_Abibde
11/28/18 6:32:05 PM
#51:


(Just ... don't call it the Silver Blade Tavern.)

Thunderball is my favorite of all the James Bond movies, and I prefer the Connery era, but I did enjoy the Brosnan era, especially Goldeneye, but I loathe Die Another Day. That one is shit, IMO. If Madonna is in your movie, you jumped the shark. Game over.

The Craig era feels like a revisitation of the Connery era, but updated for the present. Casino Royale is not my personal favorite (because Thunderball), but I consider it to most likely be the objective best of all the movies in terms of characterization, plot, etc. Perfect reboot for Bond.

Lazenby is underrated. The Moore era bores me, for the most part, but I did like Live and Let Die, and Jaws is a fun recurring villain. (A View To A Kill is the first Bond movie I ever saw, but I was too young to make much of it outside of thinking Grace Jones is scary.) The Dalton movies do not feel like Bond movies to me.

Seconding the love of Dragon Quest XI while I am here. Best game of 2018 for me.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/28/18 6:43:15 PM
#52:


I_Abibde posted...
(Just ... don't call it the Silver Blade Tavern.)

I feel there is referential context here that I'm missing.

I don't actually have solid ideas at the moment. I've been playing around with a few possibilities, but I could sour on all of them when my mood shifts again. I've mostly been using English pub name conventions to piece together phrases:

Blackthorn Tavern
The Azure Dragon (a bit too Asian)
The Copper Kettle
The Dancing Unicorn
The Raven's Nest
The Sapphire Rose
The Sleeping Wolf
The Wishing Well

I'd probably have come up with more by now, except I've mostly spent the last couple days reading comic book urban legends for amusement.

Oh, and posting on the D&D Reddit, where a major thread has now evolved threshing out "Dungeons & Disney" ideas for a hypothetical campaign setting where all of the Disney Princesses are actually evil. This is what my life has become now.



I_Abibde posted...
Thunderball is my favorite of all the James Bond movies

Do you also enjoy the fact that they've remade it like twice now?


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Entity13
11/28/18 7:56:44 PM
#53:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
The Azure Dragon (a bit too Asian)


You don't sei(ryu).

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Do you also enjoy the fact that they've remade it like twice now?


Thunderball, Never Say Never Again, and what else now?
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ParanoidObsessive
11/28/18 9:12:58 PM
#54:


Entity13 posted...
You don't sei(ryu).

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOurns.


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Zeus
11/28/18 9:50:14 PM
#55:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
The Sleeping Wolf
The Wishing Well


What about the Sleeping Well? Or the Wishing Wolf?

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oh, and posting on the D&D Reddit, where a major thread has now evolved threshing out "Dungeons & Disney" ideas for a hypothetical campaign setting where all of the Disney Princesses are actually evil. This is what my life has become now.


Noice.
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WhiskeyDisk
11/28/18 10:51:31 PM
#56:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Oh, and posting on the D&D Reddit, where a major thread has now evolved threshing out "Dungeons & Disney" ideas for a hypothetical campaign setting where all of the Disney Princesses are actually evil. This is what my life has become now.


... actually...damn, the Disney princesses have all of the bases covered....that would be a brutal campaign.

Fire. Lots of fire is your only option, and you still have to contend with Elsa, Rey, and Ariel once you've run out of fire. How the fuck are you going to deal with Rey in DND terms?

And shit...you still have Wanda Maximoff waiting in the wings, and Shuri if we're being technical... JFC, what have you done?
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Entity13
11/28/18 11:08:41 PM
#57:


My first time rewatching Goldeneye in fifteen years, I have found that the one thing that bothered me most about the movie back then still bugs me now, more than any flaw in the other Bosnan Bond films.

The movie opens with him running along the top of a dam. The dam is surrounded by plenty of greenery, and not really any snow.

He bungee jumps down to the bottom and enters the hidden facility. The entry is high enough, relative to the place, that he is in the ventilation system.

During his escape, at presumed ground level relative to the facility, he's suddenly in the middle of a snowy region without any visible greenery.


I just... what?
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Zeus
11/28/18 11:18:09 PM
#58:


idk, I've watched that movie plenty of times and never really flagged that.
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shadowsword87
11/28/18 11:22:46 PM
#59:


I've watched parts of Goldeneye... I think.
All I know was that James Bond was in a tank in a full suit, breaking down walls while head outside of the tank. It didn't seem like it was for me.
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Zeus
11/28/18 11:26:45 PM
#60:


shadowsword87 posted...
I've watched parts of Goldeneye... I think.
All I know was that James Bond was in a tank in a full suit, breaking down walls while head outside of the tank. It didn't seem like it was for me.


...I don't remember that in Goldeneye? In fact, are you sure that you aren't thinking of Mission Impossible?
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Entity13
11/28/18 11:29:05 PM
#61:


Zeus posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
I've watched parts of Goldeneye... I think.
All I know was that James Bond was in a tank in a full suit, breaking down walls while head outside of the tank. It didn't seem like it was for me.


...I don't remember that in Goldeneye? In fact, are you sure that you aren't thinking of Mission Impossible?


No, it's totally one of the chase sequences in Goldeneye. It's also James Bond quality cheese when it comes to such things, especially looking back at the Moore films.
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shadowsword87
11/28/18 11:34:45 PM
#62:


Zeus posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
I've watched parts of Goldeneye... I think.
All I know was that James Bond was in a tank in a full suit, breaking down walls while head outside of the tank. It didn't seem like it was for me.


...I don't remember that in Goldeneye? In fact, are you sure that you aren't thinking of Mission Impossible?


Prepare for your mind to be blown I guess:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-MKdRwhHs" data-time="

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ParanoidObsessive
11/29/18 12:00:26 AM
#63:


Zeus posted...
What about the Sleeping Well? Or the Wishing Wolf?

Completely unacceptable!

Why, neither of them make for artistically delightful yet clearly interpreted signs for the illiterate! And neither of them is a whimsically upbeat song by Terence Trent D'Arby! Blasphemy!

You put those two right back around the way you found them, do you hear?



WhiskeyDisk posted...
Fire. Lots of fire is your only option, and you still have to contend with Elsa, Rey, and Ariel once you've run out of fire. How the fuck are you going to deal with Rey in DND terms?

And shit...you still have Wanda Maximoff waiting in the wings, and Shuri if we're being technical... JFC, what have you done?

Ehh. Let's be honest, most sane and right-thinking individuals don't count Star Wars characters or Marvel Comics characters as Disney princesses, even if Disney does own them now. Only a hateful marketing department and the loathesome youth of this decadent modern age try to squeeze Rey and Leia in there on the pretense that every princess should be invited to the club.

Fie I say! Only royalty anointed with the holy crest of the Walt Disney Animation Studios are allowed to count.

I'd even be willing to draw the line to exclude Pixar from that august reckoning, but then we lose Merida from Brave, and she's just too perfect for a Druid/Ranger or Arcane Archer multiclass.

The actual "official" tally is that only Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Mulan, The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, and Brave count. Which actually excludes Frozen (and thus Elsa and Anna), but pissed-off Snow Queen Ice Witch does kind of feel like a must.

It does mean you also lose actual princesses like Eilonwy and Kida because The Black Cauldron and Atlantis: The Lost Empire tanked, and no squeezing in Alice or Kairi from Kingdom Hearts to fill a quota. But if we're going to be honest, Alice probably wouldn't have gotten that spot either if Kingdom Hearts had come out 5-10 years later.

Still, that's a good dozen princesses to serve the role of evil sorceresses, insane abominations, cruel warlords, or primal forces of nature. That's a full campaign right there.



Entity13 posted...
The dam is surrounded by plenty of greenery, and not really any snow.

During his escape, at presumed ground level relative to the facility, he's suddenly in the middle of a snowy region without any visible greenery.


I just... what?

I've played way too much Minecraft for that to make anything other than perfect sense to me at this point.

But I'm pretty sure that scene was supposed to take place in Siberia, so both the greenery and the snow should fit. But looking at the scene on YouTube, it DOES go from a long shot of areas of green with a lot of bare rock around as well, then opens out on a runway strip area entirely covered in snow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLF3XDHKm9Y" data-time="


Maybe he went in one side of the dam and out the other, and due to a freak weather pattern and the shaping effects of mountains, it only snowed on the one side?


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Entity13
11/29/18 12:05:14 AM
#64:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Maybe he went in one side of the dam and out the other, and due to a freak weather pattern and the shaping effects of mountains, it only snowed on the one side?


Part of me wants to think of that as a possibility, and a larger part of me considers it some oversight that people rarely think about.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/29/18 12:10:31 AM
#65:


Entity13 posted...
Part of me wants to think of that as a possibility, and a larger part of me considers it some oversight that people rarely think about.

Oh, let's be honest, it's totally a continuity error on the part of people who didn't give a fuck and figured no one would notice.

And considering it's now 23 years later and we're only just noticing it...


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Entity13
11/29/18 12:26:55 AM
#66:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Entity13 posted...
Part of me wants to think of that as a possibility, and a larger part of me considers it some oversight that people rarely think about.

Oh, let's be honest, it's totally a continuity error on the part of people who didn't give a fuck and figured no one would notice.

And considering it's now 23 years later and we're only just noticing it...



I noticed it 23 years ago and people just looked at me like they had no clue what the fuck I was talking about, or that I was making up something nonsensical. Don't you just love it when people brush off or ignore something you've been saying on and off for twenty-odd years, only to eventually discover what you've been saying for so long?
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WhiskeyDisk
11/29/18 1:22:55 AM
#67:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Ehh. Let's be honest, most sane and right-thinking individuals don't count Star Wars characters or Marvel Comics characters as Disney princesses, even if Disney does own them now. Only a hateful marketing department and the loathesome youth of this decadent modern age try to squeeze Rey and Leia in there on the pretense that every princess should be invited to the club.

Fie I say! Only royalty anointed with the holy crest of the Walt Disney Animation Studios are allowed to count.

I'd even be willing to draw the line to exclude Pixar from that august reckoning, but then we lose Merida from Brave, and she's just too perfect for a Druid/Ranger or Arcane Archer multiclass.

The actual "official" tally is that only Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Mulan, The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, and Brave count. Which actually excludes Frozen (and thus Elsa and Anna), but pissed-off Snow Queen Ice Witch does kind of feel like a must.

It does mean you also lose actual princesses like Eilonwy and Kida because The Black Cauldron and Atlantis: The Lost Empire tanked, and no squeezing in Alice or Kairi from Kingdom Hearts to fill a quota. But if we're going to be honest, Alice probably wouldn't have gotten that spot either if Kingdom Hearts had come out 5-10 years later.

Still, that's a good dozen princesses to serve the role of evil sorceresses, insane abominations, cruel warlords, or primal forces of nature. That's a full campaign right there


Oh no PO, if we're doing this in modern canon, we're going balls deep and we're doing this against any shetagonist Disney owns, don't be scurred.

Pulling the moon out of the sky to punch Bambi in the face isn't out of the realm of possibility, and we may have to if we're going to put the Disney gals in their place, unless you want to go the Purple Man route and work with using Belle's Stockholm Syndrome to infect the rest of them.

It's going to be ugly, but I'm willing to go there if Jasmine has Genie in her stable.
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Zeus
11/29/18 3:45:40 AM
#68:


shadowsword87 posted...
Zeus posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
I've watched parts of Goldeneye... I think.
All I know was that James Bond was in a tank in a full suit, breaking down walls while head outside of the tank. It didn't seem like it was for me.


...I don't remember that in Goldeneye? In fact, are you sure that you aren't thinking of Mission Impossible?


Prepare for your mind to be blown I guess:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy-MKdRwhHs" data-time="


Ohhh, was thinking of *another* kind of tank, more specifically an aquarium one. >_< . Yeah, that was actually one of my favorite scenes from the film, along with the whole "I am invincible stuff." Perhaps not Alan Cumming's finest role, but certainly a memorable character.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
Ehh. Let's be honest, most sane and right-thinking individuals don't count Star Wars characters or Marvel Comics characters as Disney princesses, even if Disney does own them now. Only a hateful marketing department and the loathesome youth of this decadent modern age try to squeeze Rey and Leia in there on the pretense that every princess should be invited to the club.


Yeah! That's a LEFT-thinking thing!
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I_Abibde
11/29/18 5:32:26 AM
#69:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
I feel there is referential context here that I'm missing.


TSBT used to be a fantasy role-play channel in the hoary old days of IRC chat in the '90s. I acted as a GM for it. Several good, long-running plots happened in that place, and I met a number of friends there who are still in my life twenty years later (plus one who got married to a real-life friend of mine), but it was also a big time sink and a hotbed of drama. That, I do not miss.

Do you also enjoy the fact that they've remade it like twice now?


Never Say Never Again is all right, but also silly. It looks like Connery got dropped into a Moore movie. ... If there is a second remake, I am unaware of it (unless you count Austin Powers).
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The Wave Master
11/29/18 9:01:55 AM
#70:


The list of best James Bond's came up on another website, and my list ticked off some people.

1. Connery (I didn't know thus was a debate.)
2. Craig (Casino Royale and Skyfall are great.)
3. Brosnan
4. Lazenby
5. Dalton
6. Moore

People kill me over number 4, but I love "On Her Majesty's Secret Service." Which I think is a fun film. One of my favorite Easter eggs is that in the opening crawl Bond takes a knee to make his famous gun barrel shot. It's an ode to him marrying Theresa in the film. He never dies that in any other film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ3RNveAyFA" data-time="

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Zeus
11/29/18 8:59:42 PM
#71:


The Wave Master posted...
The list of best James Bond's came up on another website, and my list ticked off some people.

1. Connery (I didn't know thus was a debate.)
2. Craig (Casino Royale and Skyfall are great.)
3. Brosnan
4. Lazenby
5. Dalton
6. Moore


Your list doesn't tick me off, but it is kinda bad. And honestly I suspect that most of the Connery love is simply because he was the first Bond actor.
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ParanoidObsessive
11/30/18 12:55:16 AM
#72:


The Wave Master posted...
The list of best James Bond's came up on another website, and my list ticked off some people.

Understandable, since I'd say you rated Lazenby way too high and Moore way too low.

But Bonds are like Doctors, it's hard to argue against any given person's subjective preferences.


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Zeus
11/30/18 2:22:40 AM
#73:


Started to watch Scott Pilgrim in its entirety. The full film doesn't seem anywhere near as fun as the clips made it out to be (although once Scott starts to hang out with Ramona, it begins to pick up). The film is 110 minutes long and I'm pretty sure I watched over an hour in clips.

At any rate, the way that it flips between scenes (to denote the passage of time (?) or because there's an unexpected dream sequence) is jarring and annoying.
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Metalsonic66
11/30/18 2:19:18 PM
#74:


The movie takes place over like, a few days, whereas the comic was over a cpuple months. So yeah, there's a bit of whiplash.
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Korruptor
11/30/18 4:41:34 PM
#75:


I had better memories with the Goldeneye video game than the movie and it got me into watching Bond.

for me it's

Connery > Bronson > Moore > Dalton > Craig > Lazenby
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Metalsonic66
11/30/18 5:04:05 PM
#76:


Connery > Craig > Brosnan > Moore > the rest
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The Wave Master
11/30/18 5:17:30 PM
#77:


Netflix is doing the ultimate purge on all the Marvel Netflix shows; as Daredevil got the axe last night. Joining every Marvel show except The Pubisher and Jessica Jones. (Which I assume will follow shortly.)

This is not at all shocking with Disney lining up shows for their own streaming services. The release date and the price are already available, but the more shows they can get on the service the harder it will be to ignore another streaming service.
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Entity13
11/30/18 6:14:48 PM
#78:


The Wave Master posted...
Netflix is doing the ultimate purge on all the Marvel Netflix shows; as Daredevil got the axe last night. Joining every Marvel show except The Pubisher and Jessica Jones. (Which I assume will follow shortly.)

This is not at all shocking with Disney lining up shows for their own streaming services. The release date and the price are already available, but the more shows they can get on the service the harder it will be to ignore another streaming service.


At this point, or rather a few weeks ago, I'm ready to say they're all axed, but not all cancellations have been announced as of yet. So we just haven't seen or heard it being official with JJ or Punisher, or the Defenders by extension.

Also, thanks. I'm now picturing Frank Castle in the business of publishing either books or games, and greedy stock holders ending up inside of some machine after they dick around with a random artist's livelihood.
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I_Abibde
11/30/18 8:08:10 PM
#79:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
But Bonds are like Doctors, it's hard to argue against any given person's subjective preferences.


Related to a point you made above: The Sixth Doctor TV episodes do nothing for me (... and that costume is excrement, if you ask me), but the guy is aces in the Big Finish audio dramas, IMO.
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WhiskeyDisk
11/30/18 9:21:50 PM
#80:


I'm getting sick of everyone and their asshole brother starting their own streaming service. Half the point in cutting the cord is NOT to have to pay $100+ each month for the dozen shows I want to watch and 16 million I don't want to watch, but if everyone wants a piece of that pie, we've pretty much come right back around to the shitty cable TV model all over again.
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Zeus
11/30/18 11:37:35 PM
#81:


Picked up two Mystery Minis today -- a Nicktoon one (got the ultra rare 1/72 Angry Beavers figure... can't remember the name of the beaver since it's been forever since I watched that) and a Spiderverse one (1/12 Green Goblin -- kinda checked them all for weight, etc, just to make sure I got him. Was going to buy the Pop! but.... idk, I liked the Pop! but I didn't love it. Have enough Pop!s at this point, including the recently-bought Krampus)

Metalsonic66 posted...
The movie takes place over like, a few days, whereas the comic was over a cpuple months. So yeah, there's a bit of whiplash.


Oh. Had no idea what the original timeline looked like, just knew it was across like 6 volumes and they cut a bunch of stuff.

Korruptor posted...
I had better memories with the Goldeneye video game than the movie and it got me into watching Bond.


No Bond game has come close to being as much fun, tbh.

The Wave Master posted...
Netflix is doing the ultimate purge on all the Marvel Netflix shows; as Daredevil got the axe last night. Joining every Marvel show except The Pubisher and Jessica Jones. (Which I assume will follow shortly.)


Fuck. God fucking damnit. Fuck. DD was the one I always cared about the most. I'm just happy we got that third season finally, even if the timeline was a letdown.

The Wave Master posted...
This is not at all shocking with Disney lining up shows for their own streaming services. The release date and the price are already available, but the more shows they can get on the service the harder it will be to ignore another streaming service.


The only thing Punisher has going for it is that it's a property that Disney doesn't necessarily want to touch given the more graphic nature.
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Metalsonic66
12/01/18 1:21:50 AM
#82:


Zeus posted...
Angry Beavers figure... can't remember the name of the beaver since it's been forever since I watched that)

Norbert was the yellowish one, Daggett was the darker one
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WhiskeyDisk
12/01/18 1:59:58 AM
#83:


Zeus posted...
The only thing Punisher has going for it is that it's a property that Disney doesn't necessarily want to touch given the more graphic nature.


Yeah, Mauschwitz doesn't do grey areas, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that can say Frank Castle isn't a prolific serial killer, even if the people he does kill are shitstain blights on humanity 99% of the time. Just about anyone else in the Marvel stable with his body count is deep, so very deep into the villain category.
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I_Abibde
12/01/18 1:51:58 PM
#84:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm getting sick of everyone and their asshole brother starting their own streaming service.


Unfortunately, a bubble has to swell before it can burst, and this is most assuredly a bubble.
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CyborgSage00x0
12/01/18 6:58:19 PM
#85:


I.... what?

I've been trying to explain to Wave for at least a decade now that that's not how Smash works, but alas. Only the tripping mechanic in Brawl even comes close to it. Even items have a variable level of skill involved.

On that note, I'm stoked as hell for Smash, but am also in the midst of planning a dear friend's 30th birthday party in 2 weeks, editing a video, and winding down the show I just finished. I'll probably spend this weekend and this week trying to clear my schedule for Smash.

The Wave Master posted...
Netflix is doing the ultimate purge on all the Marvel Netflix shows; as Daredevil got the axe last night. Joining every Marvel show except The Pubisher and Jessica Jones. (Which I assume will follow shortly.)

This is not at all shocking with Disney lining up shows for their own streaming services. The release date and the price are already available, but the more shows they can get on the service the harder it will be to ignore another streaming service.

I'm currently wrapping up a film that is made for Disney+. I'm sad, but not shocked at Daredevil being canceled, as it almost certainly has to do with Disney+. After all, the series was a critical success and very high in views, and was certainly a marquee Netflix series. So under performing wasn't the cause, and I highly doubt cost was the biggest issue, either. Behind the scene politics could be a reason, but there's not enough to suggest that was the case.

The funny thing is, there's no guarantee that DD goes to Disney+, either. It could be related to the issues of rights, depending on how long the Marvel and Netflix deal was. That said, the Daredevil producers were completely caught by surprise by the cancellation. Season 4 was already in the pre-planning stages. Which would suggest a content rights issue is unlikely to be the reason why. Even stranger, they said that Daredevil (as in, at least the characters) would be returning in some form for a "new adventure" which means....they want to keep using the characters, but not in the current Daredevil show format they made?

It's really quite odd.

WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm getting sick of everyone and their asshole brother starting their own streaming service. Half the point in cutting the cord is NOT to have to pay $100+ each month for the dozen shows I want to watch and 16 million I don't want to watch, but if everyone wants a piece of that pie, we've pretty much come right back around to the shitty cable TV model all over again.

Yep. The joke is how cable has basically come full circle (although you at least don't have to buy "packages" anymore).

That said, Disney is probably the on;y company that can get away with this. I highly doubt a Dreamworks or WB Stream ever happen. Disney has a huge library, with hits that are apart of the American fabric, as well as the monoliths that are Marvel and Star Wars. They've already announced a Loki/Scarlet Witch cross-over, as well as Falcon/Hawkeye for Disney+. So they have an innate star-power advantage. Then again, apparently Disney+ is supposed to be "family friendly"...so more Disney Channel, just in streaming format, than anything. That might stunt its reach a little bit.

For now, I have zero plans on getting Disney+, especially if it's supposed to be more focused on children programming.

Any who...with a month left, so far this year I have seen/completed:
56 films (25 seens in theaters, 33 from this year, 10 with MoviePass)
22 TV Seasons
10 Video Games
4 Books

I'll probably dedicate all of this month to books, then hunting down some movies I missed. Smash will dominate the month gamewise. Also, sorry I've been away, all!
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Korruptor
12/01/18 7:11:56 PM
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Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox?
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12/01/18 7:14:18 PM
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Korruptor posted...
Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox?

Yes, which I had thought would mean they would just use Hulu to host Disney stuff. Evidently not.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/01/18 8:48:04 PM
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The Wave Master posted...
Netflix is doing the ultimate purge on all the Marvel Netflix shows; as Daredevil got the axe last night. Joining every Marvel show except The Pubisher and Jessica Jones. (Which I assume will follow shortly.)

I brought this up back as early as when they first cancelled Iron Fist, and everyone was trying to justify it by saying it was only because the viewership was low and production costs were high, and the other shows would all be fine.

The moment Disney admitted that they wanted to start their own streaming service, the writing was blatantly on the wall. These shows were straight up doomed no matter how popular they were.

My assumption is that the only reason they haven't said anything about Jessica Jones is because there's likely still another season currently in production or post-production. But they were willing to admit the other shows were done because they know nothing more is coming.



WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm getting sick of everyone and their asshole brother starting their own streaming service. Half the point in cutting the cord is NOT to have to pay $100+ each month for the dozen shows I want to watch and 16 million I don't want to watch, but if everyone wants a piece of that pie, we've pretty much come right back around to the shitty cable TV model all over again.

I called this a while back as well.

For the people who REALLY had foresight, the risk of this was predictable the moment you had both Hulu and Netflix competing but also pushing for original programming (as opposed to rehashed shows that had already aired on other channels and which likely had DVD releases). But for the rest of us, it became obvious when you started seeing Amazon pop up with a service, and CBS started pushing their service, and so on.

The future is a world where there are a dozen different streaming services, each one individually costing $10-15 or so a month, so you wind up paying $200 a month (again) for everything you want to see. Or you learn new and interesting ways to pirate. Or just stop giving a shit about most things (my option of choice!).

Ironically, with cable companies desperately trying to find new ways to stay relevant in a world where customers are all bleeding off to streaming services, all we need now is for a clever cable company to switch itself over to a streaming aggregator that provide access to multiple streaming services with a shared UI cutting out all the busywork for the customer.



Zeus posted...
DD was the one I always cared about the most. I'm just happy we got that third season finally, even if the timeline was a letdown.

Their argument was that, because the season sort of ended on an up note, it was a better place to end the show than it might otherwise have been if they'd kept going and things got worse for Matt again.

I have no idea, though, since I've never seen a single episode. I have zero interest in Netflix as a service, and they fucked up the DVD releases for the show (season one is only on Blu-Ray for some reason, even though every other Marvel show and the second season of Daredevil IS on DVD).



Zeus posted...
The only thing Punisher has going for it is that it's a property that Disney doesn't necessarily want to touch given the more graphic nature.

That's not really a saving grace. That's how you get PG-13 Punisher movies.


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ParanoidObsessive
12/01/18 9:09:42 PM
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I_Abibde posted...
Related to a point you made above: The Sixth Doctor TV episodes do nothing for me (... and that costume is excrement, if you ask me), but the guy is aces in the Big Finish audio dramas, IMO.

I loved his coat. Partly because I think it just looks cool, but also because it seems something like an alien that doesn't really understand or care about human pop culture WOULD wear. He's a flashy, arrogant, egotistical know-it-all (with an over-inflated sense of his own aesthetic/artistic knowledge). Hes not going to dress to blend in (especially when he spends 80% of his time in space, where Earth clothes NEVER blend it). The Doctor has always been a bit of an attention whore, it makes perfect sense that he'd wear something that pretty much forces you to look.

(Plus, it was the 80s. It actually looked slightly less ridiculous then than it does now.)

The Doctor shouldn't dress like an English cricketeer (Five), or a hipster professor (Ten), or like someone's dad trying to pretend to be cool (Nine). Arguably, he shouldn't even necessarily dress respectably formal (One) or somewhat stylishly Victorian (Three and Eight). He SHOULD look kind of weird, in that "immediately stand out in every possible crowd" sort of way. Two and Four actually hit that note well, since they basically look like intergalactic hobos. You take one look at them and realize you're looking at someone who either doesn't understand basic modern Earth fashion styles, or you're dealing with someone who really just doesn't give a shit.

Though, speaking of the audio dramas, they actually gave him a modified version of his outfit in those (you can see it on some of the CD covers). It's basically a blue, toned-down version of his coat. Which, as Colin Baker has mentioned, is a lot closer to what he actually would have liked to wear in the show, but which he never could because it would have screwed with blue-screen tech at the time (the reason why blue is about the only color you CAN'T see in his TV coat).

If anything, I think that ridiculous sort of outfit fits his version of the character better than what Colin Baker wanted to wear the most when he started - he's mentioned he basically wanted to wear an outfit that was all-black and actually looked more like something you'd expect the Master to wear, and play the character a touch more sinister (which, ironically, you almost get with the Valeyard). Which could have been cool in its own right, but which didn't really fit how he played the character.

I love his interpretation of the character, though. It's easily my favorite (Seven skirts close to what I like, but loses points for other reasons). The only reason Six bothers so many people is because he's not "loveable" enough (too many people by that point had gotten used to the idea of the Doctor as a likeable grandfather or a cool uncle sort of figure, and didn't like the darker aspects - though I'd still take those every single time over the modern trend of seeing the Doctor more as someone to crush over and ship with ~squee!~), and because he had the misfortune of being on the show in the precise moment Michael Grade was trying to murder it, which led to scheduling BS, weaker scripts, and a lot of other problems. Colin Baker never really had the chance to shine that he deserved.

As he himself has mentioned, it's funny that Peter Davison wanted to leave the show after his third season and they tried to badger, cajole, and bribe him into staying... and then Colin Baker openly said he wanted to be on the show for years and beat Tom Baker's record (seven seasons) and they threw him out as soon as possible.


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ParanoidObsessive
12/01/18 9:24:43 PM
#90:


CyborgSage00x0 posted...
The funny thing is, there's no guarantee that DD goes to Disney+, either. It could be related to the issues of rights, depending on how long the Marvel and Netflix deal was.

As for the Netflix series itself, I kind of assume it isn't going to go to Disney. I assume the rights issues are such that Netflix gets to keep the episodes already produced but loses the right to make more (at best), and at worst both sides get pissy about it and it gets yanked off every service and dropped entirely into limbo (at worst).

I assume Marvel/Disney is just cancelling the shows so they can clear the board and start making their own productions using those characters. Because the preference is always to maximize potential profit rather than being force to share with someone else.

As Jim Sterling is fond of saying, they don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money.



CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Even stranger, they said that Daredevil (as in, at least the characters) would be returning in some form for a "new adventure" which means....they want to keep using the characters, but not in the current Daredevil show format they made?

Honestly, I hear that more as a "Hey, Daredevil will be back eventually, once Disney makes its own show somewhere else!" than I hear it as "Hey, Netflix is going to try to do some sort of future project".

Which makes perfect sense. Disney/Marvel is going to want to capitalize on the success of these shows and the current popularity of the characters, so it's almost inevitable that they're going to push Daredevil and Jessica Jones shows into production at some point for their own service - unless they're willing to go all-in and make a Heroes for Hire movie as part of the MCU or something.

Again, I see cancelling the Netflix shows as clearly the table so they'll be able to do their own version (with a new cast... who are willing to work for less money, most likely).

I also think they'll tank hard, because it's really difficult to catch that sort of lightning in a bottle twice, and that they've basically fucked themselves by being too greedy, but they probably view this entire mess as small potatoes at this point anyway.



CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Korruptor posted...
Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox?

Yes, which I had thought would mean they would just use Hulu to host Disney stuff. Evidently not.

Disney gained controlling interest, but not 100% control. Which takes us back to "They don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money."

If anything, I half-expect to see them use that controlling interest to shut Hulu down entirely (or transition it into an entirely different type of service) if they think they can make Disney+ a success and transfer all of their properties and subscribers over from one to the other. But they might be willing to keep Hulu going as-is as a contingency if Disney+ tanks and they need an alternative to crawling their way back to Netflix.


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Zeus
12/02/18 12:56:15 AM
#91:


I_Abibde posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm getting sick of everyone and their asshole brother starting their own streaming service.


Unfortunately, a bubble has to swell before it can burst, and this is most assuredly a bubble.


Yeah, it's gone way overboard. It'll be interesting to see which services survive the bloodbath.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...
The funny thing is, there's no guarantee that DD goes to Disney+, either. It could be related to the issues of rights, depending on how long the Marvel and Netflix deal was. That said, the Daredevil producers were completely caught by surprise by the cancellation. Season 4 was already in the pre-planning stages. Which would suggest a content rights issue is unlikely to be the reason why. Even stranger, they said that Daredevil (as in, at least the characters) would be returning in some form for a "new adventure" which means....they want to keep using the characters, but not in the current Daredevil show format they made?


Reminds me of how Disney tanked the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...
That said, Disney is probably the on;y company that can get away with this. I highly doubt a Dreamworks or WB Stream ever happen. Disney has a huge library, with hits that are apart of the American fabric, as well as the monoliths that are Marvel and Star Wars. They've already announced a Loki/Scarlet Witch cross-over, as well as Falcon/Hawkeye for Disney+. So they have an innate star-power advantage. Then again, apparently Disney+ is supposed to be "family friendly"...so more Disney Channel, just in streaming format, than anything. That might stunt its reach a little bit.

For now, I have zero plans on getting Disney+, especially if it's supposed to be more focused on children programming.


Even with SW and Marvel, I'm not entirely sure Disney could pull this off.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Any who...with a month left, so far this year I have seen/completed:
56 films (25 seens in theaters, 33 from this year, 10 with MoviePass)
22 TV Seasons
10 Video Games
4 Books


My consumption was like nothing this year.... or was it? Not really sure. I know I didn't really finish any games, but I guess I got through a bunch of tv seasons and probably have an okay number of films done as well. Also started but didn't finish a lot of books =x

CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Korruptor posted...
Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox?

Yes, which I had thought would mean they would just use Hulu to host Disney stuff. Evidently not.


Of course not, because that would make sense >_>
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ParanoidObsessive
12/02/18 1:28:43 AM
#92:


Zeus posted...
Reminds me of how Disney tanked the Spectacular Spiderman cartoon.

That was blatantly Greg Weisman's fault. Every show he ever works on dies a tragic whimpering death before it was meant to, possibly due to an ancient gypsy curse placed on his family centuries ago.


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I_Abibde
12/02/18 3:16:24 PM
#93:


I am not going to get the Disney service, as I cannot afford it in addition to the other services I use. Trying to not be a victim of the slide towards cable prices, thank you. I enjoy the Marvel movies, but it looks like I am going to stick to theaters and Blu-Ray for that content.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
*** Colin Baker ***


That he has one of the longest runs of any of the Big Finish Doctors feels appropriate.

As far as costuming goes, Eighth Doctor is my favorite. I especially like the steampunk Tardis.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/02/18 3:52:27 PM
#94:


I_Abibde posted...
I am not going to get the Disney service, as I cannot afford it in addition to the other services I use. Trying to not be a victim of the slide towards cable prices, thank you. I enjoy the Marvel movies, but it looks like I am going to stick to theaters and Blu-Ray for that content.

As I get older, I've noticed that the idea of "must have" content has gotten less and less motivating. When someone moves a worthwhile show or interesting game behind extra paywalls or more hoops that need to be jumped through, it doesn't motivate me to do what they want, it just motivates me to stop caring about the show or game.

There's WAAAY too much media in the modern era, and as an adult I have less free time than I used to. Nothing is indispensable, and I'm more than willing to pass on pretty much any game or show that inconveniences me too much, because there will always be other alternatives clamoring for my time.

Disney moving everything to their streaming service doesn't make me want their service, it just makes me care less about all of their content.


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Zeus
12/02/18 10:36:37 PM
#95:


Metalsonic66 posted...
Zeus posted...
Angry Beavers figure... can't remember the name of the beaver since it's been forever since I watched that)

Norbert was the yellowish one, Daggett was the darker one


Out of curiosity, I went on ebay to get some idea of what the Norbert Mystery Mini was worth... and apparently listings are going for as low as $3. XD That's hilariously low for a 1/72 rarity. I feel a bit less lucky. Oh well, I wasn't strongly leaning towards any one figure from the set (save maybe Oblina)

WhiskeyDisk posted...
Zeus posted...
The only thing Punisher has going for it is that it's a property that Disney doesn't necessarily want to touch given the more graphic nature.


Yeah, Mauschwitz doesn't do grey areas, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that can say Frank Castle isn't a prolific serial killer, even if the people he does kill are shitstain blights on humanity 99% of the time. Just about anyone else in the Marvel stable with his body count is deep, so very deep into the villain category.


Apparently Wolverine's overall kill count is even higher, but a large chunk of those happened while he was brainwashed.
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12/02/18 11:01:59 PM
#96:


Zeus posted...
Metalsonic66 posted...
Zeus posted...
Angry Beavers figure... can't remember the name of the beaver since it's been forever since I watched that)

Norbert was the yellowish one, Daggett was the darker one


Out of curiosity, I went on ebay to get some idea of what the Norbert Mystery Mini was worth... and apparently listings are going for as low as $3. XD That's hilariously low for a 1/72 rarity. I feel a bit less lucky. Oh well, I wasn't strongly leaning towards any one figure from the set (save maybe Oblina)

WhiskeyDisk posted...
Zeus posted...
The only thing Punisher has going for it is that it's a property that Disney doesn't necessarily want to touch given the more graphic nature.


Yeah, Mauschwitz doesn't do grey areas, and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that can say Frank Castle isn't a prolific serial killer, even if the people he does kill are shitstain blights on humanity 99% of the time. Just about anyone else in the Marvel stable with his body count is deep, so very deep into the villain category.


Apparently Wolverine's overall kill count is even higher, but a large chunk of those happened while he was brainwashed.


Perhaps, but Logan doesn't wake up in the morning with a hard on with a cheeseburger at the end of it at the thought of killing mere humans. I'm not saying Wolverine is a saint or anything, but as a mutant he can afford to practically ignore most mooks as he goes. I'm sure Logan's.kills are disproportionately worse and more powerful mutants as a matter of necessity.

Castle on the other hand as a more or less vanilla human with training has to put two in the chest and one in the head of literally every low level thug that stands in his way because he can't afford to get shot the way Logan can and continue to function.

He pretty much has to shoot the center of mass on literally every obstacle as he goes on principle. His body isn't going to just spit out small arms fire like mosquito bites as he walks up a staircase the way Logan can.

As contradictory as that may seem, Castle not being brainwashed or having a 300+ year lifespan he must really, really enjoy killing people to even come close to Logan's body count. Like Carnage should have bonded to Castle ages ago because he's killed way more than Cleetus Kassidy.
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12/02/18 11:04:52 PM
#97:


I don't think I'd be the first dead and with hard work I could whip myself into good enough shape to have a fighting chance. I'd stay local. I'd do a mix between dictator democracy and free for all I guess and let me explain. Dictator only has power to dictate actual important things. But if its really not that important let the people decide. And I say free for all because if some nut wants to go hide out I'm the woods and play by his own rules as long as he didn't get in the way I wouldn't oppose it.
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12/02/18 11:30:37 PM
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Hmmm...

Zombie, despotism, and... probably about 70%-ish.

The thing about a zombie apocolypse is that it's actually pretty easy to deal with. First off, here in good old 'Murica there are ample guns to utilize which would quickly turn any zombie battle in the favor of the survivors. Make sure that they train properly and we'd probably turn any encounter with the zombies into a one-sided slaughter in our favor. Depending on what kind of zombies we would also likely be able to almost entirely negate them via proper armor. So it's got the highest chances of survival. Plus food would be untouched (unlike in nuclear) and the risk of infection spreading is a lot lower than with world-wide disease and, if it does, it isn't an almost guarenteed death.

As for despotism, it's really simple. I'm assuming that this 'civilization' is relatively small since it's made of survivors. In this case it's key that things get done fast and efficiently with minimal interference. A single person providing directives is much better at that then a democracy. Maybe once things settle down the government can be converted or, at the least, get proper laws set down, but initially I'd go with despot. Women's right are gonna be such a freaking pain...

Finally... I dunno. I'm trained in the use of guns and have quite a bit of knowledge but I'm not physically fit either. I think my survival would depend entirely on me being able to withstand a zombie attack as opposed to outrunning it. If I could do that, however, my survival would probably be near-guarenteed. The biggest question, IMO, is how depleted the population would be. 10% dying as a result of zombies would be terrible but certainly survivable. Even 50% would still leave a lot of locals. I'd say we'd need 70-80% dead/turned for it to really threaten my survival chances.

Though the REAL big thing is 'what would the government do?' I mean, it's not just going to vanish overnight. Most likely there will be a mass depletion followed by minor survivor encampments that the government will proceed to re-affirm contact with.

Edit: As for where I'd want to set up; probably Kansas. The mid-west for certain or, failing that, somewhere with lots of mountains for easy defense.
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ParanoidObsessive
12/03/18 12:52:57 AM
#99:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm not saying Wolverine is a saint or anything, but as a mutant he can afford to practically ignore most mooks as he goes. I'm sure Logan's.kills are disproportionately worse and more powerful mutants as a matter of necessity.

Ironically, most of Wolverine's actual kills in the early comics (as opposed to later retcons and flashbacks) were completely ordinary humans.

The first kill ever was off-panel, and he basically ganked a total mook (while Storm and Nightcrawler were both literally right next to him, and fully capable of taking the dude down themselves).

The second major "Holy shit, this dude kills people!" moment came when he straight up stabbed three random human mooks working for the Hellfire Club to death. At least until Jim Shooter got pissy about Wolverine killing people and had them reveal later that no, they were all perfectly healthy and okay with cyborg parts now. And he murdered the absolute FUCK out of a ton of Japanese criminals and crime bosses when he was in Japan and Madripoor, when he was basically in his "I AM A MODERN SAMURAI" mode.

I think the first time he really used killing force on a powerful mutant or superbeing solely because they WERE powerful was when he stabbed Rachel Summers (his friend and teammate at the time) in the gut with zero forewarning because he disagreed with her stance that they should kill Selene (the Black Queen of the Hellfire Club at the time) because, in his own words, she had the power of the Phoenix, so had to do everything in her power to stay on the straight and narrow so she wouldn't go crazy the way Jean Grey did. And she's actually called him out on the hypocrisy of it a couple times since then.



WhiskeyDisk posted...
Castle on the other hand as a more or less vanilla human with training has to put two in the chest and one in the head of literally every low level thug that stands in his way because he can't afford to get shot the way Logan can and continue to function.

There WAS a period where he actually used "mercy bullets" that incapacitated people, and didn't straight-up kill them. And he's in a universe were it would be pathetically easy for him to acquire tech that can subdue or stun rather than kill. Hell, he could probably straight up ask Spider-Man to use his connections to get someone like Tony Stark or Reed Richards to build him stuff like that if he was interested in taking prisoners.

Frank doesn't kill because he needs to kill. He kills because he wants to kill. Because, much like with Batman, every single criminal he deals with is just revenge for the one crime he couldn't prevent. He's basically a broken man who can't cope with his grief venting his frustrations against the world - and the only reason he isn't the subject of a massive manhunt is because there are just enough police and officials (and citizens) in the incredibly corrupt Marvel universe who agree with his methods that no one really goes looking for him as long as he just sticks to killing street criminals.


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WhiskeyDisk
12/03/18 1:10:01 AM
#100:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
. And he's in a universe were it would be pathetically easy for him to acquire tech that can subdue or stun rather than kill. Hell, he could probably straight up ask Spider-Man to use his connections to get someone like Tony Stark or Reed Richards to build him stuff like that if he was interested in taking prisoners.

Frank doesn't kill because he needs to kill. He kills because he wants to kill. Because, much like with Batman, every single criminal he deals with is just revenge for the one crime he couldn't prevent. He's basically a broken man who can't cope with his grief venting his frustrations against the world - and the only reason he isn't the subject of a massive manhunt is because there are just enough police and officials (and citizens) in the incredibly corrupt Marvel universe who agree with his methods that no one really goes looking for him as long as he just sticks to killing street criminals.


I certainly can't argue with that logic since Parker could have given him a "web fluid shotgun" and a warehouse full of web cartridges 30 years ago. I hear now in modern continuity that Castle actually has the War Machine suit...like seriously, wtf? Who made that call? We also apparently have Venom: Agent of SHIELD so I'm honestly at a loss as to why they don't just get it over with and let Carnage take Castle as a host at this point.
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