Board 8 > Maria ranks all 141 League champs blind

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profDEADPOOL
11/19/18 1:37:40 PM
#201:


Maria is going to love Illaoi imo.

Strong, tall woman OP
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kateee
11/19/18 1:52:08 PM
#202:


NFUN posted...
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NFUN
11/19/18 1:53:58 PM
#203:


put a hyphen somewhere in there
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 2:03:56 PM
#204:


Someone mentioned Gragas and I'm predicting a bottom tier here.

I mean he's disgusting and I'm someone who actually enjoys Mundo's design (someone who's also disgusting).
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Reg
11/19/18 2:05:27 PM
#205:


I would be shocked if Kai'sa ended up with a low ranking, myself.
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 2:13:19 PM
#206:


ZeldaTPLink posted...
I find that weird, the summoner story actually seemed like something that would make writing characters more flexible, not less.

What else would be a reason for all those people from completely different backgrounds to be there killing each other in organized matches?

I thought it brought more sense to the story. It gives somebody like Vel'Koz an excuse to be around. He gets roped into it as a promise that he will gain as much wisdom as he wanted. Or give Renekton and Brand the story that they must be contained for being too beastly and that they will be used as penance for their crimes.

I always felt that the high summoners were woefully underutilized. I always invisioned them as the Guardians from Green Lantern. Just a bunch of stuck up assholes who want to run the world. They keep this world in order by doing these summoning rift games and everyone is basically at the mercy of them begrudgingly. On the outside, they seem good natured, but they do shady shit like bringing around fucking Renekton from another universe instead of putting his ass down so they can just ship him off to compete for the highest bidder in the summoning rift games.

And then you could have a story (ahahahaha) if they ever decide to branch out their highly successful series into literally any other medium where eventually these creatures can escape or do escape. Like if something like Vel'Koz gets out, shit gets real. Because you have this nigh godly creature looking to vaporize anyone to gain knowledge, and he needs to be locked back up immediately. Or, again, Renekton escapes and goes on another butcher rampage and Nasus needs to put him back in line. Instead we get this dumb shit where they have static stories, nothing changes, and it's impossible to actually give a shit because it has nothing to do with the world our game is in.

You have all these relationships and rivalries and none of them matter because there is nothing done with them. I would have killed to see a Jinx vs. Vi and Caitlyn story where Viktor is funding Jinx's insane new scheme for his own agenda and Jayce gets involved to help out his buddies Caitlyn and Vi.

Or a big story about Leona and Diana's rivalry, where Diana just goes back and butcher's the sun tribe while Pantheon and Leona must defend it. They have so much they can do with this universe and these characters, but there's no ramifications for any of it.

They could be the biggest company in the fucking world if they were proactive at all with anything. League would be more than a household name right now. And kids would be walking around with dumb Teemo dolls everywhere. But Riot cannot get their shit together enough to have capitalized on any of this half a decade ago when they were at their most popular.
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Reg
11/19/18 2:15:22 PM
#207:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
But Riot cannot get their shit together enough to have capitalized on any of this half a decade ago when they were at their most popular.

Small indie company bro
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 2:24:08 PM
#208:


Reg posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
But Riot cannot get their shit together enough to have capitalized on any of this half a decade ago when they were at their most popular.

Small indie company bro

As if they haven't had tons of people banging down their doors begging to work with them to create media for one of the most popular video games of the modern generation. Small indie company works for their game, but the idea that they couldn't work with other companies to create like a TV show or something is nuts.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 2:25:10 PM
#209:


Why do all that when they can sell artifact pages or whatever that's called?

Anyway, I'd love to see a video of Graves vs Fate - Final showdown
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 2:25:53 PM
#210:


Not everyone can be Nintendo.
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Reg
11/19/18 2:33:24 PM
#211:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
As if they haven't had tons of people banging down their doors begging to work with them to create media for one of the most popular video games of the modern generation. Small indie company works for their game, but the idea that they couldn't work with other companies to create like a TV show or something is nuts.

No, you slightly missed the point.

That level of incompetence is why the "small indie company" meme is applied to Riot at all.
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kateee
11/19/18 2:36:18 PM
#212:


profDEADPOOL posted...
Maria is going to love Illaoi imo.

Strong, tall woman OP

i don't think Maria will find her attractive

and tentacles are a meh point
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MariaTaylor
11/19/18 2:56:49 PM
#213:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
(lots of text about high summoners)


honestly that was more interesting than anything I've read on the wiki

maybe you should go work for riot...
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 2:57:54 PM
#214:


Reg posted...
No, you slightly missed the point.

That level of incompetence is why the "small indie company" meme is applied to Riot at all.

Okay, I wasn't sure if you were serious or not. Lol Thanks for clarifying the meme. It just blows my mind that the most media mainstream thing we have for League now are just commercials on TV well after it's been in it's prime. Unless they are in their prime now and I'm missing it.
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Reg
11/19/18 3:00:26 PM
#215:


The esports side is probably in the back half of its prime right now

The game itself is probably past it though.
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 3:07:21 PM
#216:


MariaTaylor posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
(lots of text about high summoners)


honestly that was more interesting than anything I've read on the wiki

maybe you should go work for riot...

True story: I honest to god almost applied to work for them with a portfolio with scripts and ideas and concepts.

Then they announced they were going to ditch the Summoner's Rift being canon and I said this is absolutely absurd and this company is so dumb for this. And then I saw maybe one or two of the lore change stories after and went "wow this shit is bad" and abandoned the idea completely.

In the long run it worked out because I may have had to work with Anthony Burch, and I'd rather be homeless.
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GranzonEx
11/19/18 3:07:25 PM
#217:


I don't think doing anything with the lore would have made them a better and more successful company. They killed their game by literally ruining the one thing it was good for: ranked queue. Instead of giving us our current role matchmaking in 2015 they fucked it up with their flex queue shit and then started nerfing solo play so everything is just depending on your team of monkeys and trolls.
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SpikeDragon
11/19/18 3:10:27 PM
#218:


Yeah to Reg's point the esports side hit a pretty high point this year as it was Koreas worst performance at the world championship, north America had a team make the semifinal for the first time since like season 2, and Europe had its first finalist since season 1. Also China won its first world championship, and overall the world championship felt incredibly diverse as far as champions played went. It was the first world championship that featured the 10 ban system which has definitely helped imo

And also yeah game is prob past its prime
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 3:13:07 PM
#219:


Wait, what all did they change in ranked since then?
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Reg
11/19/18 3:13:43 PM
#220:


SpikeDragon posted...
north America had a team make the semifinal for the first time since like season 2

Season 1, where there were no Korean or Chinese teams present

Rest of your post holds though
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profDEADPOOL
11/19/18 3:20:12 PM
#221:


Well Riot did just partner with Marvel for lore stuff at least.
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SuorGenoveffa
11/19/18 3:31:28 PM
#222:


I love Galio, I just wish they would stop nerfing him to the point that only pro players can use him as an ult bot.
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kateee
11/19/18 4:13:04 PM
#223:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh_n4mQZthQ" data-time="


oh hey they just announced a new champion
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lordjers
11/19/18 4:30:23 PM
#224:


Yeah I remember now the Summoner retcon was quite a few years back but didn't pay much attention to it.

So if there are no summoners, WTF are they fighting fooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr *ahem then ans in the same arena over and over again? Are the wounds real now and if so how they survive? Do they still at least meet in a place where they're nerfed? Is there a Summoner's Rift at all?
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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 4:35:29 PM
#225:


lordjers posted...
Is there a Summoner's Rift at all?

Nope.

That answers all your questions.
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MariaTaylor
11/19/18 4:46:41 PM
#226:


Garen
wr2oyoy

I legitimately could not tell you the difference between Garen and the other big sword dude with short brown hair. I think his name was Darius? only noteworthy thing about this guy are his ridiculous starcraft marine shoulder pads. okay, those are funny enough to put him ahead of darius at least.

Gnar
3V1fmuk

looks about average as far as small furry characters go, which means pretty low overall for my rankings.

I guess he's supposed to be like an intelligent... creature... not even going to try and guess exactly what he is. funny that only one of his moves that I read has him actually using tools or anything and the rest are just normal animal attacks like hop and swipe. much intelligent. very missing link.

I have to at least rate him above Gangplank because I can give the benefit of the doubt to whoever designed Gnar

Gragas
59rkmti

so did you ever feel like the one thing action games were missing is an ugly, fat, hairy drunken idiot who runs around looking like a jackass?

me neither

I don't know if this is supposed to be like a body positivity thing -- as if morbidly obese characters can somehow be champions too, and fight against people with 0% body fat made of pure muscle -- or if people think gragas is cool or funny. or maybe everyone else feels the way that I do... which is that I don't even want to look at him.

unless you're the badass dwarf from dragon's crown get the hell out of my topic

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Evelynn
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Elise
Caitlyn
Aatrox
Fiora
Diana
Fizz
Akali
Ashe
Azir
Ekko
Ezreal
Camille
---Ahri---
Fiddlesticks
Cho'Gath
Annie
Garen
Darius
Blitzcrank
Bard
Anivia
Alistar
Cassiopeia
Braum
Gnar
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Draven
Brand
Galio
Corki
Aurelion Sol
Amumu
Dr. Mundo
Gragas
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 4:48:31 PM
#227:


MariaTaylor posted...
I legitimately could not tell you the difference between Garen and the other big sword dude with short brown hair. I think his name was Darius? only noteworthy thing about this guy are his ridiculous starcraft marine shoulder pads. okay, those are funny enough to put him ahead of darius at least.


One is the hero of Demacia and the other the hero of Noxus, the two biggest kingdoms who are at war.

So it makes sense they are similar.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 4:49:18 PM
#228:


Also you are missing the main point of Gnar which is turning into Mega Gnar.

Google that.
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kateee
11/19/18 4:50:38 PM
#229:


ok but have you considered the Gnar DANCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okwxInEMcOI" data-time="
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 4:50:59 PM
#230:


Wow I predicted she woudn't like Gragas but last place? I freaking nailed it.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 4:51:36 PM
#231:


Like Gragas is that uncle you are all gonna meet on Thanksgiving but hope you didn't have to.
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MariaTaylor
11/19/18 4:53:22 PM
#232:


lmao that is pretty amusing but even seeing that I feel like I ranked him about where I would normally. maybe swap him with Braum but I'm not sure if I'll actually try to refine the list at any point; if I end up doing that it's possible I end up continuing to shift things infinitely and never being satisfied which would really slow down the rankings.

ZeldaTPLink posted...
One is the hero of Demacia and the other the hero of Noxus


this sounds more like a joke I would make than an actual explanation for how they are different

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GranzonEx
11/19/18 4:53:54 PM
#233:


DEMAClA
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 4:55:09 PM
#234:


I think Garen is more of a good guy and Darius is a jackass, because one country is more "evil" than the other.

Or something like that.
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lordjers
11/19/18 4:55:11 PM
#235:


Darius is the bad (enough) dude and Garen is the boy scout.
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MariaTaylor
11/19/18 4:59:40 PM
#236:


that's actually what I would have predicted based on their appearances, so that's good to know at least.
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ZeldaTPLink
11/19/18 5:05:29 PM
#237:


But like, you only ranked half of Gnar. His main gimmick is alternating between that form and this one:

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profDEADPOOL
11/19/18 5:08:14 PM
#238:


lordjers posted...
Yeah I remember now the Summoner retcon was quite a few years back but didn't pay much attention to it.

So if there are no summoners, WTF are they fighting fooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr *ahem then ans in the same arena over and over again? Are the wounds real now and if so how they survive? Do they still at least meet in a place where they're nerfed? Is there a Summoner's Rift at all?

It uses the same approach as Overwatch.

The multiplayer matches aren't at all canon.
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MariaTaylor
11/19/18 5:09:05 PM
#239:


yeah not gonna lie, that's a lot cooler. I did briefly read over the fact that he could transform but I didn't put much thought into it. might need to adjust his ranking specifically because it would really be so much higher based on that image.

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/19/18 5:13:09 PM
#240:


profDEADPOOL posted...
It uses the same approach as Overwatch.

The multiplayer matches aren't at all canon.

Overwatch lore sucks for much of the same reasons as the lore in League sucks.
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lordjers
11/19/18 5:17:27 PM
#241:


profDEADPOOL posted...
lordjers posted...
Yeah I remember now the Summoner retcon was quite a few years back but didn't pay much attention to it.

So if there are no summoners, WTF are they fighting fooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrr *ahem then ans in the same arena over and over again? Are the wounds real now and if so how they survive? Do they still at least meet in a place where they're nerfed? Is there a Summoner's Rift at all?

It uses the same approach as Overwatch.

The multiplayer matches aren't at all canon.


Then the lore really is static and totally unrelated to the actual gameplay =/
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5tarscream
11/19/18 7:35:16 PM
#242:


Darius has an axe not a sword that's the easiest way to tell the two sword guys apart.

Also Gnar has two forms like a few characters, one is a cute fluffy thing one is a raging hulk monster.It's like a prehistoric Jekyll and Hyde or somBanner and Hulk or any other number of unique designs. I also hate his "cute" lines.
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Waluigi1
11/19/18 11:06:40 PM
#243:


Damn, you're cold. You don't even like cute things?
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Gatarix
11/20/18 2:52:52 PM
#244:


kateee posted...
oh hey they just announced a new champion

I wasn't really sold on the trailer but she has cute fanart

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Dantezoid
11/20/18 2:55:19 PM
#245:


Gatarix posted...
kateee posted...
oh hey they just announced a new champion

I wasn't really sold on the trailer but she has cute fanart


The only thing I got out of the trailer was wow this character was custom designed for lopen to play
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KommunistKoala
11/20/18 2:56:17 PM
#246:


I liked the music at least
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MariaTaylor
11/20/18 3:33:21 PM
#247:


Graves
6CX3Ivi

He looks like an action hero from an 80's movie which is... kinda cool, I guess! Honestly despite me giving more points for badass male characters over weaklings, I would say this trope isn't one that really stands out to me too much. There's still a few I will rank him over, but if we start seeing more actual good characters I would see him and all of them moved further down the list as we go.

His skins are much better than his default design, I'll give him that much.

Hecarim
2tuN23o

THE SHADOW OF WAR. Now this is a cool looking monster. Honestly when I just saw Fiddlesticks face I thought he would look something more like this. So all of those dashed expectations toward Fiddlesticks when I saw his real design, have all been transplanted to Hecarim and boosted his score even further.

Not only that, but I read a bit about his playstyle and it does sound pretty fun. He's a melee fighter who can cleave and create Aoe damage around himself, which is good for me because I stuck at aiming. On top of that he seems to have some kind of charge which is always satisfying as well. Nothing more awesome than charging down some puny human and banishing them as they try to flee.

The combination of melee and magic is something that seems like it would make a lot of sense but gets underutilized quite a lot, so the designers get some credit for that as well. I mean, really, using magic would make your melee fighting abilities so much more ridiculous. In a world where magic exists there's literally no reason not to enhance your melee with some magic... unless you are super invested in getting immediately decimated by the guy who enchanted his sword to weigh nothing and pierce through anything.

Heimerdinger
IYRrw3T

oh look it's corgi but an actual dog this time. so I guess one of the staples of league is taking generic tropes and then making that exact character but as a small furry? well... alright then.

placement: I think we all know.

Rankings
Evelynn
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Elise
Caitlyn
Aatrox
Hecarim
Gnar <- Moved up
Fiora
Diana
Fizz
Akali
Ashe
Azir
Ekko
Ezreal
Camille
---Ahri---
Fiddlesticks
Cho'Gath
Annie
Garen
Darius
Blitzcrank
Graves
Bard
Anivia
Alistar
Cassiopeia
Braum
---Gangplank---
Draven
Brand
Galio
Corki
Heimerdinger
Aurelion Sol
Amumu
Dr. Mundo
Gragas
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11/20/18 3:40:06 PM
#248:


I played LoL long ago, and I remember no one using Heimerdinger even then.
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MariaTaylor
11/20/18 3:41:10 PM
#249:


Waluigi1 posted...
Damn, you're cold. You don't even like cute things?


for a rough idea look at how far Gnar was moved up after I realized he was a legit monster

or just compare his placement to Heimerdinger
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kateee
11/20/18 3:47:30 PM
#250:


Graves was a lot cooler to me before they changed him into a jungler. His shots were SMOOTH.

He ain't got time to bleed.

Arcade Hecarim is the best Hec skin though.
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