Current Events > Bill Maher sucks so bad

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https://twitter.com/RealTimers/status/1059520828440686595
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Wow, Barbra Streisand looks great for 76
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This romanticizing of the Bush years needs to stop

For fuck's sake people are even starting to ignore the fact that Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq War
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Doom_Art posted...

Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq War

nice

But he's a socialist
He smokes weed erry day socialist
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P4wn4g3 posted...

But he's a socialist

he is not
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Antifar posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

But he's a socialist

he is not

But he says he is
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I literally don't see the problem with this clip or why you're mad TC.
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Vyrulisse posted...

I literally don't see the problem with this clip or why you're mad TC.

Bill Maher is the best the left has in the media, and he's constantly reversing his opinions in either astoundingly stupid ways (like this or his Alex Jones defense) or blatantly bought and paid ways (such as Hillary)
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Bill Maher is the best the left has in the media,

he is not
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

I literally don't see the problem with this clip or why you're mad TC.

Bill Maher is the best the left has in the media, and he's constantly reversing his opinions in either astoundingly stupid ways (like this or his Alex Jones defense) or blatantly bought and paid ways (such as Hillary)

So he's not part of the hivemind and makes his own decisions based on changing or updated information... and this is somehow a bad thing.
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Doom_Art posted...

This romanticizing of the Bush years needs to stop

For fuck's sake people are even starting to ignore the fact that Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq War

Agreed. Trump makes us look bad, but the Bush administration caused near irreversible damage and pretty obviously committed war crimes.
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Vyrulisse posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

I literally don't see the problem with this clip or why you're mad TC.

Bill Maher is the best the left has in the media, and he's constantly reversing his opinions in either astoundingly stupid ways (like this or his Alex Jones defense) or blatantly bought and paid ways (such as Hillary)

So he's not part of the hivemind and makes his own decisions based on changing or updated information... and this is somehow a bad thing.

This is the opposite of what I said.
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Antifar posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Bill Maher is the best the left has in the media,

he is not

Sorry buddy but I don't get your station over here.
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There's a big difference between thinking Bush Republicans are better than Trump Republicans and thinking the Bush admin was great.

This Bush loving bullshit is fucking ridiculous, Maher has no actual principles.
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I bet he's closet conservative, and a Christian to boot.
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Also I thought a lot of Liberals hate him because he calls them out when they're being stupid and they can't handle that?
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I don't know when it happened, but somewhere in the Trump trainwreck Bill Maher just stopped pretending to be liberal.
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I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Its perspective based on rhetoric and without any ideological or practical basis.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Also I thought a lot of Liberals hate him because he calls them out when they're being stupid and they can't handle that?

Except he doesn't. Sometimes he'll make an obligatory comment on how some liberal is doing something stupid, but it's lip service. I like how he's not PC though.
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Its perspective based on rhetoric and without any ideological or practical basis.

Rhetoric that has seen a spike in emboldened lunatics commiting hate crimes and tanking our image in the eyes of the world so fast it would make Bushs head spin, yes
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BLAKUboy posted...

I don't know when it happened, but somewhere in the Trump trainwreck Bill Maher just stopped pretending to be liberal.

It was during the Obama admin when he was getting his **** sucked daily by billionaire Democrats and he said "fuck it I'm in this for the money"
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He's a dope
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Also I thought a lot of Liberals hate him because he calls them out when they're being stupid and they can't handle that?

Except he doesn't. Sometimes he'll make an obligatory comment on how some liberal is doing something stupid, but it's lip service. I like how he's not PC though.

He consistently calls out liberals on PC culture run amok though
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Vyrulisse posted...

Also I thought a lot of Liberals hate him because he calls them out when they're being stupid and they can't handle that?

Except he doesn't. Sometimes he'll make an obligatory comment on how some liberal is doing something stupid, but it's lip service. I like how he's not PC though.

He consistently calls out liberals on PC culture run amok though

He doesn't do it consistently. He certainly didn't give a shit when it applied to the Hillary camp.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Not as destructive? Bruh the Iraq War, literally one of the most destructive things to happen to the Middle East in the modern age.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

He consistently calls out liberals on PC culture run amok though

And then he has legitimate right-wing crazies on his show most if not every week and will not allow them to be challenged.
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I don't think anyone is being nostalgic for the Bush years just by saying he was preferable to Donald trump. Its not exactly a high bar.

The thought of 9/11 occuring while trump is president is fucking terrifying.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

I don't think anyone is being nostalgic for the Bush years just by saying he was preferable to Donald trump. Its not exactly a high bar.

The thought of 9/11 occuring while trump is president is fucking terrifying.

Ive wondered how Trump would react to a crisis like that and I genuinely think he may have tried something internment-campy for Muslims.
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Doom_Art posted...

This romanticizing of the Bush years needs to stop

For fuck's sake people are even starting to ignore the fact that Dick Cheney made money off the Iraq War

Quoted for truth

Mr_Biscuit posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

I don't think anyone is being nostalgic for the Bush years just by saying he was preferable to Donald trump. Its not exactly a high bar.

The thought of 9/11 occuring while trump is president is fucking terrifying.

Ive wondered how Trump would react to a crisis like that and I genuinely think he may have tried something internment-campy for Muslims.

He would have done nothing different. The difference would be public opinion, much like what Bush had in his favor, would have excused anything he did.
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justaguy3492 posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Not as destructive? Bruh the Iraq War, literally one of the most destructive things to happen to the Middle East in the modern age.

I don't know how old you are or if you remember post 9/11 america. But was a different time. Im not necessarily defending Bush, but don't sit here and play monday morning quarterback 15 years later and act like you knew the best course of action at the time. No one did.

And the middle east has been a disaster since the second world war. No, the Iraq war didn't help, but things were sour long before 2003.
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This whole "Don't say anything nice about Bush" is one of the dumbest takes. Nobody is out here saying Bush was a great president.

Solid Snake07 posted...

justaguy3492 posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Not as destructive? Bruh the Iraq War, literally one of the most destructive things to happen to the Middle East in the modern age.

I don't know how old you are or if you remember post 9/11 america. But was a different time. Im not necessarily defending Bush, but don't sit here and play monday morning quarterback 15 years later and act like you knew the best course of action at the time. No one did.

And the middle east has been a disaster since the second world war. No, the Iraq war didn't help, but things were sour long before 2003.

Literally everyone knew Osama Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, that Iraq had no WMDs, and that it was a huge scam to get oil money.

Even the rednecks I knew couldn't claim ignorance because I made sure to tell them.
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Honestly, whenever I here someone say Trump is more destructive than Bush, or that Bush was somehow preferable to Trump, I immediately think they are a low information person.

Like, it just reeks of "I don't know anything about what either of these two have actually done and I'm just parroting what I heard on TV."

At best, all you have is that Bush was more "respectable" than Trump. As far as actual policy and destruction to our rights and the world Bush has him beat by FAR.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

King_Hellebuyck posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Its perspective based on rhetoric and without any ideological or practical basis.

Rhetoric that has seen a spike in emboldened lunatics commiting hate crimes and tanking our image in the eyes of the world so fast it would make Bushs head spin, yes

Yeah, thats worse than what happened to our world image following the invasion of Iraq? And Trumps rhetoric is leading to some fucked up shit but comparing that to the casualty count under Bush because of his actual policies? What has Trump done that is nearly as destructive as the Iraq War?
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George W Bush destabilized the Middle East.

I dont care that Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld wormtongue-ed him into declaring war on Iraq, it was ultimately him who gave the green light.

Liberals that thought Bush was Hitler 2.0 dont need to apologize. Its like apologizing to a murderer because you thought they cheated on a poker game.
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iPhone_7 posted...

George W Bush destabilized the Middle East.

I dont care that Dick Cheney & Donald Rumsfeld wormtongue-ed him into declaring war on Iraq, it was ultimately him who gave the green light.

Liberals that thought Bush was Hitler 2.0 dont need to apologize. Its like apologizing to a murderer because you thought they cheated on a poker game.

Hey don't forget Carl Rove
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

justaguy3492 posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Not as destructive? Bruh the Iraq War, literally one of the most destructive things to happen to the Middle East in the modern age.

I don't know how old you are or if you remember post 9/11 america. But was a different time. Im not necessarily defending Bush, but don't sit here and play monday morning quarterback 15 years later and act like you knew the best course of action at the time. No one did.

And the middle east has been a disaster since the second world war. No, the Iraq war didn't help, but things were sour long before 2003.

Literally everyone knew Osama Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, that Iraq had no WMDs, and that it was a huge scam to get oil money.

Even the rednecks I knew couldn't claim ignorance because I made sure to tell them.

That's bs. No one knew that until after we were there. You can go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole that the administration lied about the reports but that's pretty silly, they couldn't have been naive enough to ignore that, that was gonna blow up in their face. But whatever, believe what you want
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ThanksUglyGod posted...

There's a big difference between thinking Bush Republicans are better than Trump Republicans and thinking the Bush admin was great.

Yeah, people don't seem to understand that distinction. It's really fucking weird, like, no one is saying he was a good president but apparently if you say he wasn't as bad as Trump, you might as well be saying you loved the dude.
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Honestly, when he isn't trying so hard, it can be pretty funny, but he reminds me of the sort of guy that spent all of highschool trying to be edgy and cool and it just ruins his humor. I feel like if he backed off of politics once in awhile, he'd probably actually be pretty decent. I remember Religulous being pretty decent.

Solid Snake07 posted...

P4wn4g3 posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

justaguy3492 posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

I dont think its romanticizing Bush to acknowledge that he wasnt as hateful and destructive as Trump

Its perspective

Not as destructive? Bruh the Iraq War, literally one of the most destructive things to happen to the Middle East in the modern age.

I don't know how old you are or if you remember post 9/11 america. But was a different time. Im not necessarily defending Bush, but don't sit here and play monday morning quarterback 15 years later and act like you knew the best course of action at the time. No one did.

And the middle east has been a disaster since the second world war. No, the Iraq war didn't help, but things were sour long before 2003.

Literally everyone knew Osama Bin Laden had nothing to do with Iraq, that Iraq had no WMDs, and that it was a huge scam to get oil money.

Even the rednecks I knew couldn't claim ignorance because I made sure to tell them.

That's bs. No one knew that until after we were there. You can go down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole that the administration lied about the reports but that's pretty silly, they couldn't have been naive enough to ignore that, that was gonna blow up in their face. But whatever, believe what you want

Like, everyone knew Bin Laden was in Afghanistan.
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John Oliver > Bill Maher.
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PBS' 2 Part Documentary "Bushs War" lays the case out pretty clear. That administration knowingly used faulty info to push for the war.
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