Board 8 > * 2018 CBX Guru Contest - Results, Discussions and Eliminations, Part One *

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Ngamer64
10/27/18 6:31:28 PM
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All brackets are entered, we're officially off and running! Big thanks to Ange and his team of bracket-entering-superstars (Spike, Wigs, hylianknight, ShonenBat) for getting us all up to date.

http://thengamer.com/guru/

- clicking your name on the ranks will display your personal bracket page complete with notifications for all your risky picks and mistakes

- speaking of which, now is the time to check your bracket on the site and make sure it lines up with your official entry. sometimes we make mistakes entering it, sometimes you made a mistake posting it, neither is a problem as long as we take care of it early. your official entry is here:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx_mybracket

- did you post your bracket but we missed you and it's still not on the site? hopefully that didn't happen but if so, sorry, let us know!

As soon as we get everyone's brackets corrected we'll be able to start generating everything's favorite thing in the world, ELIMINATIONS!
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Now, as for those Special Features...

Here's this year's Cookie-Cutter Bracket, meaning it makes all the most-likely picks based on the B8 hivemind.

http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=2

As you can see it has goofed up four times already; plenty more where that came from! Every time you make a pick that defies the Cookie that's considered a Risk. The median number of risks taken this year was 29. Boring Bracket award goes to pirate and Joelypoely who took only 6 risks, while Most "Exciting" Bracket goes to Zazi who went with a jaw-dropping 69!

The dropdown on the front page will display everyone's picks for whichever match number you select, you can use that to say things like "Sweet, I'll move up two spots today to #14 if Garrus can hold on!".

The Matchup Stats page is my favorite, it show how many picks we had for every matchup of the season.

http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php

Clicking the link on the top will give you the exact breakdown of who picked what for that match. For instance here's where we ended on the hottest pre-lockdown debate, Who Will Win Division Three?

http://thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=115

That covers everything, have a fun season Gurus!


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hylianknight3
10/27/18 6:33:28 PM
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Ngamer64 posted...
Most "Exciting" Bracket goes to Zazi who went with a jaw-dropping 69!


Nice.
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Arti
10/27/18 6:35:24 PM
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Ngamer64 posted...
Most "Exciting" Bracket goes to Zazi who went with a jaw-dropping 69!


Nice.
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SwiftyDC
10/27/18 6:36:34 PM
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haloiscoolisbak
10/27/18 6:40:57 PM
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hylianknight3 posted...
Ngamer64 posted...
Most "Exciting" Bracket goes to Zazi who went with a jaw-dropping 69!


Nice.


I mean it probably has a Monika/Waluigi final or something
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Ngamer64
10/27/18 6:42:38 PM
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Previous topic now in the archives in case we need to refer to it.

http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/

STElNER posted...
hey, does the guru site still track any sort of all time rankings?

Not at the moment but I hope to add that feature some day!

ZeldaTPLink posted...
So I went into the prediction percentages for matches and some of them have percentages above 100%.

Maybe I have 101% confidence in Zelda? Not sure- I'll look into this once we have all corrections locked down and can kill Mr. Bad Picks, who might be goofing things up.


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Ngamer64
10/27/18 6:46:42 PM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I mean it probably has a Monika/Waluigi final or something

Nah even our craziest person isn't THAT crazy. Link's still in in the Finals, but yes, against Waluigi. Also Red somehow makes the final three, which, ummmm...


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Haste_2
10/27/18 6:46:48 PM
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It's contest season! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Luigi somehow magically made it into the Loser's Bracket Round 4 despite losing to Mega Man X in my bracket! Sorry Luigi, I thnk you're way better than your brother, but Mario (hint hint) is the plumber that people actually care about.
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Cody11533
10/27/18 7:05:35 PM
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I noticed a couple errors in my bracket.

LOSERS R1 and LOSERS R2 I should have Crono instead of Bowser.
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Polycosm
10/27/18 10:26:28 PM
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Wow, this seems like an extremely high-risk season, if memory serves. Median is 29? Is this more due to the contest structure (i.e. Losers Bracket inflation) or the seeding (i.e. guru picks are more spread out than usual)?
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_SecretSquirrel
10/27/18 10:31:28 PM
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Polycosm posted...
Wow, this seems like an extremely high-risk season, if memory serves. Median is 29? Is this more due to the contest structure (i.e. Losers Bracket inflation) or the seeding (i.e. guru picks are more spread out than usual)?

I think some of the counts are a little off. Like, I'm counting 24 but the counter says 25 for my bracket.
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AxemRedRanger
10/27/18 10:32:45 PM
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Any idea when we might start seeing eliminations?
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NowItsAngeTime
10/27/18 10:37:40 PM
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Haste_2 posted...
It's contest season! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Luigi somehow magically made it into the Loser's Bracket Round 4 despite losing to Mega Man X in my bracket! Sorry Luigi, I thnk you're way better than your brother, but Mario (hint hint) is the plumber that people actually care about.


fixed

Cody11533 posted...
I noticed a couple errors in my bracket.

LOSERS R1 and LOSERS R2 I should have Crono instead of Bowser.


fixed
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haloiscoolisbak
10/27/18 10:39:13 PM
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If these results hold I'll be outright second in the guru. Squall/Sora will likely screw me later on though
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Boo_Mario
10/27/18 10:53:37 PM
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Hi @Ngamer64 and @NowItsAngeTime ,

I have a lot of respect for you & your contributions over the years.

However, if you don't mind...would you be okay if I took over administrating the entire B8 Challenge in the next contest (along with BOP)?

I have almost everything fully automated on my end, and assuming the scripts don't change significantly on GF's side next time, I should be able to just push some buttons and everything should run on autopilot.

But this is your creation so I didn't want to just hijack it without your permission.
NowItsAngeTime
10/27/18 10:58:01 PM
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Boo_Mario posted...
Hi @Ngamer64 and @NowItsAngeTime ,

I have a lot of respect for you & your contributions over the years.

However, if you don't mind...would you be okay if I took over administrating the entire B8 Challenge in the next contest (along with BOP)?

I have almost everything fully automated on my end, and assuming the scripts don't change significantly on GF's side next time, I should be able to just push some buttons and everything should run on autopilot.

But this is your creation so I didn't want to just hijack it without your permission.


Well I'm all for the process being automated!

Probably best to take Ngamer since he's the programmer and would need to inject into this site

Is there a way we can test on another site?
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fpce666
10/27/18 11:06:34 PM
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In loser R1 I have Bowser winning against Sora. Can you fix it please?
NewerShadow
10/27/18 11:06:38 PM
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AxemRedRanger posted...
Any idea when we might start seeing eliminations?


Ngamer64 posted...

As soon as we get everyone's brackets corrected we'll be able to start generating everything's favorite thing in the world, ELIMINATIONS!


Waiting for corrections to be entered makes things a lot easier for anyone checking, so anyone working off of a snapshot of all the brackets doesn't need to worry about making changes to their local copies every time someone finds something wrong with their bracket.

I think I have all my elimination logic updated for the new bracket configuration, so barring any unforeseen bugs, it shouldn't take too long. That said, it was mentioned last topic that there wasn't a ton of overlap in division winners, to say nothing about the loser's bracket, so there might not be any actual eliminations for a while.
NowItsAngeTime
10/27/18 11:12:22 PM
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fpce666 posted...
In loser R1 I have Bowser winning against Sora. Can you fix it please?


Done
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OFool
10/27/18 11:14:38 PM
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Man I still cant believe I bought into the Monika hype.

My bracket entry has one mistake so far (probably cause by me) in that I correctly predicted James Sutherland as losing.

Let me know if you want a pic or me to do the js fiddle thing again
NowItsAngeTime
10/27/18 11:16:19 PM
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OFool posted...
Man I still cant believe I bought into the Monika hype.

My bracket entry has one mistake so far (probably cause by me) in that I correctly predicted James Sutherland as losing.

Let me know if you want a pic or me to do the js fiddle thing again


Done. Proof for mistakes like this isn't necessarily. If you're lying/wrong, it'll show in the final results in the chance you win the contest and your point total is wrong.
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LeonhartFour
10/28/18 12:30:07 AM
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Glenn_and_Toad
10/28/18 12:43:34 AM
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I am listed with Noctis > Master Hand round 1 when I actually took Master Hand > Noctis Round 1. Everything else looks good.
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Ngamer64
10/28/18 12:44:04 AM
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Boo_Mario posted...
Hi @Ngamer64 and @NowItsAngeTime ,

I have a lot of respect for you & your contributions over the years.

However, if you don't mind...would you be okay if I took over administrating the entire B8 Challenge in the next contest (along with BOP)?

I have almost everything fully automated on my end, and assuming the scripts don't change significantly on GF's side next time, I should be able to just push some buttons and everything should run on autopilot.

But this is your creation so I didn't want to just hijack it without your permission.

Sure, we can use your script next time. I wanted to this year, and I'm sure the modified page you made would have done the trick, but by then we were already well into the old fashioned entry method.


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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 12:57:52 AM
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Glenn_and_Toad posted...
I am listed with Noctis > Master Hand round 1 when I actually took Master Hand > Noctis Round 1. Everything else looks good.


fixed
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Oxbridge
10/28/18 7:18:09 AM
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Based on current votals, here's the top 10 Gurus with the best tiebreakers.

1. Natwaf_akidna
2. Z1mZum
3. NFUN
4. MoogleKupo
5. kateee
6. alblito
7. davidponte
8. Leon
9. Lightning Strikes
10. SuorGenoveffa
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scaryice
10/28/18 9:42:33 AM
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If Aerith beats Waluigi, then princeton_boy eliminates demphra. The winner of that match going to R3 is the only difference in their brackets.

http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=119
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=123

BTW, I pointed out in the other thread the most common sets of division winners people picked. Five people had (Ganondorf-Pikachu-Red-Charizard-Zelda-Sans-Mewtwo-Sephiroth) which is a bit unusual, including both of those two. The other three are cloelea, puseecat, and reggaeton_reina. That last user, reggaton_reina, made a topic called "Waluigi or Aerith:"

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wBb7DqETpmMJ:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77091743

Hmm...
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LeonhartFour
10/28/18 9:52:04 AM
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Oxbridge posted...
Based on current votals, here's the top 10 Gurus with the best tiebreakers.

1. Natwaf_akidna
2. Z1mZum
3. NFUN
4. MoogleKupo
5. kateee
6. alblito
7. davidponte
8. Leon
9. Lightning Strikes
10. SuorGenoveffa


aw yeah
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MetalmindStats
10/28/18 10:17:19 AM
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I wanted to pick up on scaryice's post, because I noticed just how similar the brackets of the five users they mentioned are:

Altogether, those five brackets only differ on a select few picks, with very similar broad strokes, most notably taking Sans very far in the losers bracket only to have him losing to Link.

Specifically, those differences are the following six, as far as I can tell:
1. puseecat, princeton_boy, and reggaeton_reina picked Aerith in Rounds 1-3, while cloelea and demphra picked Waluigi in the same three rounds - the only difference all five brackets have before the legends and losers rounds.
2. puseecat, cloelea, and reggaeton_reina picked Mario in the last match of Legends Round 1, while demphra and princeton_boy picked Sephiroth in the same match.
3. puseecat alone picked Pokmon Trainer Red in the second match Losers Round 1, while the other four all picked Crono there.
4. puseecat and cloelea picked Samus in the last match of Losers Round 1, while demphra and princeton_boy picked Mario there, and reggaeton_reina picked Sephiroth.
5. puseecat and cloelea picked Mario in the last match of Losers Round 2, while demphra, princeton_boy, and reggaeton_reina all picked Sephiroth there.
6. puseecat solely picked Cloud in the first match of Losers Round 3, while the other four all picked Mega Man.

Finally, puseecat, cloelea, and demphra all have identical tiebreakers of 150000. Meanwhile, princeton_boy's tiebreaker is 155000, and reggaeton_reina's is 1500000.
DoomTheGyarados
10/28/18 12:21:25 PM
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can I enter my bracket for informational purposes somehow. I missed the boat on this due to a hectic work schedule and have always done guru, I understand if my late entry might break the system but :(
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jcgamer107
10/28/18 1:02:48 PM
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uhhhhhhhh

I have Waluigi to winner's quarterfinals

help
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Xuxon
10/28/18 1:11:11 PM
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so, seems pretty obvious those 5 accounts are alts. i've never heard of any of them, either.
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davidponte
10/28/18 1:22:12 PM
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Oxbridge posted...
Based on current votals, here's the top 10 Gurus with the best tiebreakers.

1. Natwaf_akidna
2. Z1mZum
3. NFUN
4. MoogleKupo
5. kateee
6. alblito
7. davidponte
8. Leon
9. Lightning Strikes
10. SuorGenoveffa


Likely the only top 10 I'll be in all contest
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Xuxon
10/28/18 1:31:37 PM
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wow i must be just barely not in that top 10
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azuarc
10/28/18 3:46:06 PM
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Man, losing on the Monika hype and in the bottom quartile already. Well, I'm making the rest of y'all look good, at least.
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Lockes Ragnarok
10/28/18 4:23:39 PM
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Am I the only one going 0-4 today? Assuming these results stick
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HeroicSpiderPig
10/28/18 4:35:21 PM
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Some of these were last minute changes, sorry. I have Tidus and KOS-MOS in R1, Yuna, KOS-MOS, and Lara in R2, Kefka in R3 and Ganon in R4 and Losers R1.
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XIII_rocks
10/28/18 4:37:18 PM
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My entry doesn't match what I picked

Idk how this happened
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XIII_rocks
10/28/18 4:45:11 PM
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I can give you guys the source code of my bracket page if you want, I just need that site we used to submit the brackets. My main bracket has a score of 33 and picks like Wario > Monika for instance.

@Ngamer64
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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 4:52:09 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
can I enter my bracket for informational purposes somehow. I missed the boat on this due to a hectic work schedule and have always done guru, I understand if my late entry might break the system but :(


@Ngamer64 I'll leave it up to you

HeroicSpiderPig posted...
Some of these were last minute changes, sorry. I have Tidus and KOS-MOS in R1, Yuna, KOS-MOS, and Lara in R2, Kefka in R3 and Ganon in R4 and Losers R1.


fixed

XIII_rocks posted...
I can give you guys the source code of my bracket page if you want, I just need that site we used to submit the brackets. My main bracket has a score of 33 and picks like Wario > Monika for instance.

@Ngamer64


It was this

https://jsfiddle.net/
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XIII_rocks
10/28/18 4:54:11 PM
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https://jsfiddle.net/hr148bc2/

That should do it then.
Winner: Link, obviously
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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 5:02:41 PM
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XIII_rocks posted...
https://jsfiddle.net/hr148bc2/

That should do it then.
Winner: Link, obviously


should be fixed
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XIII_rocks
10/28/18 5:21:19 PM
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Damn fast

Nice
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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 5:24:08 PM
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I wanna make sure all the issues are sorted out ASAP
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ZaziGuado
10/28/18 7:38:26 PM
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Well it's been fun, gang. Waluigi flopped.
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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 7:56:42 PM
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ZaziGuado posted...
Well it's been fun, gang. Waluigi flopped.


People are just being overly paranoid of rallies
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_SecretSquirrel
10/28/18 7:58:16 PM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
ZaziGuado posted...
Well it's been fun, gang. Waluigi flopped.


People are just being overly paranoid of rallies

I think people underestimated what it actually takes to get one rolling. It's not as easy as picking a flavor of the month and making some Reddit posts.
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NowItsAngeTime
10/28/18 8:02:01 PM
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_SecretSquirrel posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
ZaziGuado posted...
Well it's been fun, gang. Waluigi flopped.


People are just being overly paranoid of rallies

I think people underestimated what it actually takes to get one rolling. It's not as easy as picking a flavor of the month and making some Reddit posts.


I think many just hate rallies and assume the worst but dont actually take the time to see how hard it is to start one and get one going
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Advokaiser
10/29/18 11:43:12 AM
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Tag.

Finished checking my bracket, everything's in place. I know I'll lose some important matches due to Smashfear and Nintendo factor, but I'll take it.

I still have to catch up on the posts in the last topic and in this one.
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ZaziGuado
10/29/18 11:48:12 AM
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I thought people legitimately liked Waluigi and he'd gain momentum until he'd reach meme status, kinda like L-Block's run. Unfortunately this caused me to completely discount Aerith.
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Zazi is OP.
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