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Funbazooka
10/18/18 12:35:07 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/us/white-supremacists-science-dna.html

I'm not gonna bother copy pasting this shit. Dat headline tho
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LightningAce11
10/18/18 12:39:13 AM
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Maybe they drink it to keep their skin milky white.
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monkmith
10/18/18 12:40:00 AM
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is it possible the dairy industry is funding these white supremacist movements?
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Prestoff
10/18/18 12:40:59 AM
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He needs milk.
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_Krave_
10/18/18 12:45:08 AM
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I ain't reading all that shit.
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Lordgold666
10/18/18 12:48:53 AM
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lol
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Gafemage
10/18/18 12:50:49 AM
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As a liberal, I'm personally very offended by the idea of white supremacists drinking vast quantities of high-fat milk. Especially if it's unpasteurized, and kept in unsanitary conditions + containers. Hope they don't start doing that...
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AlephZero
10/18/18 12:52:58 AM
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russia has been funding the got milk campaign this whole time
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Funbazooka
10/18/18 12:57:11 AM
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YfNNKjd
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Pepys Monster
10/18/18 1:02:59 AM
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So glad I'm vegan and not a white supremacist.
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LeoRyan
10/18/18 1:03:43 AM
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Funbazooka
10/18/18 1:04:18 AM
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Frito corn chips with chocolate milk is a really good meal
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HiddenLurker
10/18/18 1:05:01 AM
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Milk is racist now? What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You. People.
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glitteringfairy
10/18/18 1:08:17 AM
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Shit, I drink half a gallon of Choco milk every two days.
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LeoRyan
10/18/18 1:09:21 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Shit, I drink half a gallon of Choco milk every two days.


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Zikten
10/18/18 1:14:01 AM
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o..........k............
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hockeybub89
10/18/18 1:18:22 AM
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White supremacists misinterpreting science to push their racial superiority narrative?

No fucking way!
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hockeybub89
10/18/18 1:20:42 AM
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HiddenLurker posted...
Milk is racist now? What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You. People.

No, white supremacists found out other races are less tolerant of milk and are using milk drinking to push their racial supremacy angle. Racists using a thing doesn't make thing racist. It just means they are being racist while using thing.
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Funbazooka
10/18/18 1:22:40 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Milk is racist now? What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You. People.

No, white supremacists found out other races are less tolerant of milk and are using milk drinking to push their racial supremacy angle. Racists using a thing doesn't make thing racist. It just means they are being racist.

IIRC, the meme started as a response to SJW white-hating articles about how milk is racist for the reason you mentioned. but it's been a while
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ThanksUglyGod
10/18/18 1:24:33 AM
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You are what you drink I guess *shrug*
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Darmik
10/18/18 1:25:01 AM
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So do we call these dweebs milk chuggers now.
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YUHH
10/18/18 1:25:34 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Milk is racist now? What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You. People.

No, white supremacists found out other races are less tolerant of milk and are using milk drinking to push their racial supremacy angle. Racists using a thing doesn't make thing racist. It just means they are being racist.

IIRC, the meme started as a response to SJW white-hating articles about how milk is racist for the reason you mentioned. but it's been a while

I do vaguely recall the milk = racist thing. Last year I think.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/17/milk-new-symbol-racism-donald-trumps-america/
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YUHH
10/18/18 1:25:59 AM
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Darmik posted...
So do we call these dweebs milk chuggers now.

Milk drinkers just for the extra lulz
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shnangyboos
10/18/18 1:28:46 AM
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What about milk slurpers.
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ledbowman
10/18/18 1:35:19 AM
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They're doing the Tommy DeSimone bulking method.
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MrMallard
10/18/18 1:45:10 AM
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Nowhere on the agenda of the annual meeting of the American Society of Human Genetics, being held in San Diego this week, is a topic plaguing many of its members: the recurring appropriation of the fields research in the name of white supremacy.

Sticking your neck out on political issues is difficult, said Jennifer Wagner, a bioethicist and president of the groups social issues committee, who had sought to convene a panel on the racist misuse of genetics and found little traction.

But the specter of the fields ignominious past, which includes support for the American eugenics movement, looms large for many geneticists in light of todays white identity politics. They also worry about how new tools that are allowing them to home in on the genetic basis of hot-button traits like intelligence will be misconstrued to fit racist ideologies.

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In recent months, some scientists have spotted distortions of their own academic papers in far-right internet forums. Others have fielded confused queries about claims of white superiority wrapped in the jargon of human genetics. Misconceptions about how genes factor into Americas stark racial disparities have surfaced in the nations increasingly heated arguments over school achievement gaps, immigration and policing.

Instead of long-discounted proxies like skull circumference and family pedigrees, according to experts who track the far-right, todays proponents of racial hierarchy are making their case by misinterpreting research on the human genome itself. And in debates that have largely been limited to ivory-tower forums, the scientists whose job is to mine humanitys genetic variations for the collective good are grappling with how to respond.

Studying human genetic diversity is easier in a society where diversity is clearly valued and celebrated right now, that is very much on my mind, said John Novembre, a University of Chicago evolutionary biologist who has taken to concluding his visiting seminars by illustrating how one of the fields textbook examples of natural selection has been adopted for illiberal ends.

One slide Dr. Novembre has folded into his recent talks depicts a group of white nationalists chugging milk at a 2017 gathering to draw attention to a genetic trait known to be more common in white people than others the ability to digest lactose as adults. It also shows a social media post from an account called Enter The Milk Zone with a map lifted from a scientific journal article on the traits evolutionary history.


To be continued in the next post, but before that, let's break down each bolded sentence.

1: White supremacists are hijacking genetic research talking points to spread their hateful ideaology.

2: New tools are helping to home in on genetic traits that may show how different aspects of the human mind develop depending on your DNA, which people are worried will be hijacked by racists to claim racial superiority over others, essentially vindicating their views with hard science.

3: Genetics papers and studies have been showing up on right-wing forums, reframed with racist language and connotations, which is gaining enough traction that other non-right people who are ignorant to these alterations think that this angle is being assumed by the scientists themselves.

4-5: Rather than the old pseudosciences like phrenology, the modern white supremacist movement are making their points of racial superiority by misconstruing the evolutionary traits of white people and other races. This is where the milk comes in, as white Europeans developed a mutation which allowed them to better process dairy well into adulthood - hence the title of the news article. White supremacists are chugging milk to show off the supposed genetic advantage of being able to digest dairy as an adult.
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Esrac
10/18/18 1:51:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure the milk = whites are superior thing was a 4chan troll that a few media outlets thought were serious.
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MrMallard
10/18/18 2:01:30 AM
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In most of the world, the article explains, the gene that allows for the digestion of lactose switches off after childhood. But with the arrival of the first cattle herders in Europe some 5,000 years ago, a chance mutation that left it turned on provided enough of a nutritional leg up that nearly all of those who survived eventually carried it. In the post, the link is accompanied by a snippet of hate speech urging individuals of African ancestry to leave America. If you cant drink milk, it says in part, you have to go back.

In an inconvenient truth for white supremacists, a similar bit of evolution turns out to have occurred among cattle breeders in East Africa. Scientists need to be more aware of the racial lens through which some of their basic findings are being filtered, Dr. Novembre says, and do a better job at pointing out how they can be twisted.

But the white nationalist infatuation with dairy also heightened Dr. Novembres concerns about how to handle new evolutionary studies that deal with behavioral traits, such as how long people stay in school.

Anticipating misinterpretations of a recent study on how genes associated with high education attainment, identified in Europeans, varied in different populations around the world, the lead author, Fernando Racimo, created his own frequently asked questions document for nonscientists, which he posted on Twitter.

And in a commentary that accompanied the paper in the journal Genetics, Dr. Novembre warned that such research is wrapped in numerous caveats that are likely to get lost in translation.

Great care, his commentary concludes, should be taken in communicating results of these studies to general audiences.

Already, some of those audiences are flaunting DNA ancestry test results indicating exclusively European heritage as though they were racial ID cards. They are celebrating traces of Neanderthal DNA not found in people with only African ancestry. And they are trading messages with the coded term race realism, which takes oxygen from the claim that the liberal scientific establishment has obscured the truth about biological racial differences.

This is by no means the end of the article, so if you're interested enough to keep reading into this, keep going. I just wanted to point out how kneejerk you'd have to be to jump to the conclusion that "Oh, SJWs/White Nationalists are saying milk is racist now!"

The story is about a bunch of white folks drinking milk to prove that the act doesn't make them want to shit their guts out and die, and using it as an example of genetic superiority over other races who might not be able to digest dairy as well. And the funny thing is that white people have begun to lose this gene, rendering a ton of white folks lactose intolerant - not to mention that a similar mutation found its way into East Africa around the same time as it did in Europe, so this isn't even an example that's unique and beneficial solely to white people. It's just the ignorant hollerings of the alt-right trying to make that case.

But the white supremacists don't care - they're going to chug gallons of heavy, full-cream milk until they're churning butter in their guts while they walk, because it's the only genetic perk to being white that they can objectively parade around as being a thing - again, despite the fact that it isn't just a caucasian thing.
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The23rdMagus
10/18/18 2:17:02 AM
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Ideological soy allergy. Fantastic.
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Esrac
10/18/18 2:33:25 AM
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https://www.wired.com/2017/05/alt-rights-newest-ploy-trolling-false-symbols/

Yeah. I was right. This " drinking Milk is white supremacy" thing was a 4chan troll job that the media took seriously, because most mainstream journalists don't understand trolling. They think trolling is just being an asshole to people on the internet.

The article in the OP is just hilariously late to the party. Hell, that image of alt-fighters chugging milk are 4chan trolls just fucking with Shia LeBeouf at his HWNDU art project.
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The Great Muta 22
10/18/18 2:36:48 AM
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Someone should convince the losers chugging milk to film themselves partaking in the gallon challenge. Tell them it's to trigger the libs or something
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Esrac
10/18/18 2:38:29 AM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
Someone should convince the losers chugging milk to film themselves partaking in the gallon challenge. Tell them it's to trigger the libs or something


To be fair, actual mainstream news outlets falling for such a blatant troll is pretty funny.
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HylianFox
10/18/18 3:00:42 AM
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yeah, this whole "milk is an alt-right white supremacist hate symbol" thing is like a year old
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Ving_Rhames
10/18/18 3:57:01 AM
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The same people who can't be in the sun without a protective screen? lmao.
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CruelBuffalo
10/18/18 11:33:39 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
The same people who can't be in the sun without a protective screen? lmao.

Real talk though, everyone should wear sunscreen
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ledbowman
10/19/18 3:53:08 AM
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cjsdowg
10/19/18 4:02:22 AM
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I keep seeing people oh they are just trolling. When real racist pick up the Troll it is not longer a troll, it is racist people being dumb racist people. Just like that white power hand thing, while it might have started off as troll real racist are now using it, so you can't fall back to say oh it is just troll anymore.
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Funbazooka
10/19/18 4:06:17 AM
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You don't know someone's racist just because you see them drinking milk. That's preposterous.
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SapphireOfChaos
10/19/18 4:07:00 AM
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CrRLaLs

Weirdos.
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cjsdowg
10/19/18 4:09:15 AM
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Funbazooka posted...
You don't know someone's racist just because you see them drinking milk. That's preposterous


No one is calling normal Milk drinkers racist.
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fuzzylittlbunny
10/19/18 4:11:56 AM
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I thought this was going to be a joke like this video my friend showed me lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzb-TXk7K_c" data-time="

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ReginaldClovis
10/19/18 4:39:43 AM
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YUHH posted...
Darmik posted...
So do we call these dweebs milk chuggers now.

Milk drinkers just for the extra lulz


I've been playing Skyrim, so this is great.

Anyway, I like milk but I can rarely drink it by itself. Needs to go with a meal/snack.
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fhqwhgads
10/19/18 4:45:00 AM
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Esrac posted...
I'm pretty sure the milk = whites are superior thing was a 4chan troll that a few media outlets thought were serious.

Yeah most of this garbage starts on 4chan I don't know why people don't do more research before flying off the handle.
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Kineth
10/19/18 5:07:08 AM
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Interesting read.
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SaithSayer
10/19/18 5:08:29 AM
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I drink a lot of milk but that's to avoid capsaicin cramps and a flaming asshole.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
10/19/18 5:12:37 AM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Shit, I drink half a gallon of Choco milk every two days.


@Choco
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008Zulu
10/19/18 5:18:51 AM
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SaithSayer posted...
I drink a lot of milk but that's to avoid capsaicin cramps and a flaming asshole.

Drinking milk through the butt is the quickest relief for that.
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LeoRyan
10/19/18 5:42:26 AM
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SapphireOfChaos posted...
CrRLaLs

Weirdos.


There's an uncropped version of this picture by the way.
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