Poll of the Day > Thinking about buying a ps4 pro for RDR2: What's the best option?

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I hear the ps5 is coming out soon (maybe in 2-3 years), so I'm trying to weigh my options to make a good purchase. I'm thinking about the ps4 pro because I do have a 4k television to work with it. So far what I know is that:

There's a $400 bundle for RDR2

There's a supposed price decrease for the ps4 pro coming up in Q4 (IDK when)

Black Friday is another month away and I'm not sure if it'll be manageable to buy it at a good price given the lunacy, wait times, and lack of guarantee behind getting the product. I'm not sure if Cyber Monday will have any good deals or how quickly things will sell out.

Anyone know of any other good deals or what I can do here?
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A Pro doesn't really do anything of value that a regular model can't. Don't let companies fool you. With that said your best price will be during that weekend. Maybe you can get close if you find a general 'percent off' sale someplace. Are you against used hardware?

In my experience BF gaming deals are about the same across many stores (with the exception of special bundles) so if it sells out you can try another.

DPsx7 posted...

A Pro doesn't really do anything of value that a regular model can't. Don't let companies fool you. With that said your best price will be during that weekend. Maybe you can get close if you find a general 'percent off' sale someplace. Are you against used hardware?

In my experience BF gaming deals are about the same across many stores (with the exception of special bundles) so if it sells out you can try another.

Doesn't the Pro look a lot better if you have a 4k TV? Aside from that are there any sizeable difference such that I should consider a different model? What should I get aside from the pro, then (the slim?)

With used hardware it becomes really sketchy/unreliable imo. I also don't feel comfortable going to someone's house just to test the hardware out.
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^
thats not what you do when you buy used.

you either buy from somewhere like gamestop, or you buy online like from amazon
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

^
thats not what you do when you buy used.

you either buy from somewhere like gamestop, or you buy online like from amazon

OK, let's say I choose one of these venues. Is there any noticeable downside to buying a used ps4 from them?
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Enh, that's what the marketing wants you to think. I doubt there's enough 4k content to make the effort and it certainly doesn't change the way the games play. If cost is a factor then you don't need to splurge for their fancy editions. Dunno how the slim is, I typically get the models that launch and stay with that.

Not always. Stores should guarantee it works. Buying online can be a great deal or a gamble. You're not wrong when saying you don't know if it's been abused. Chances are it needs little more than a fresh HDD and a good cleaning.

Are amazon trade-ins worth it? What's the best store to trade in old games/hardware at? I have an old ps3 controller, console, and some ps3 games just lying around.
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DPsx7 posted...

A Pro doesn't really do anything of value that a regular model can't.

That's a straight up lie. Not only does the Pro give people an option to play games in 4k if they have an appropriate TV, but for those that don't have 4K TVs, the Pro still gives advantages in the forms of increased and/or stable fps, better graphics and making older games have better fps as well. Not to mention they added a super sampling mode to force games to upscale to 4k and then downscale to 1080p to make them look much better on 1080p TVs but at the cost of not having the other improvements available.

Here is a link to a website that shows how a ton of games are affected by the Pro and how they are affected.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/all-ps4-pro-enhanced-games-native-support-and-boosted.1324251/
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

^
thats not what you do when you buy used.

you either buy from somewhere like gamestop, or you buy online like from amazon

Lol

Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

A Pro doesn't really do anything of value that a regular model can't.

That's a straight up lie. Not only does the Pro give people an option to play games in 4k if they have an appropriate TV, but for those that don't have 4K TVs, the Pro still gives advantages in the forms of increased and/or stable fps, better graphics and making older games have better fps as well. Not to mention they added a super sampling mode to force games to upscale to 4k and then downscale to 1080p to make them look much better on 1080p TVs but at the cost of not having the other improvements available.

Here is a link to a website that shows how a ton of games are affected by the Pro and how they are affected.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/all-ps4-pro-enhanced-games-native-support-and-boosted.1324251/

It took a paragraph to write "derp graphics"? They don't affect the game in any meaningful way.

DPsx7 posted...

They don't affect the game in any meaningful way.

They do when a game features slow downs or stuttering or screen tearing on the base model that is then eliminated on the Pro.

Besides, you claim the Pro does nothing of value, I show with a link that it does, thus proving your claim was false. Whether the features I mention are meaningful or not, is up to the TC to decide, but to say they add no value to the system over the base model is simply false.
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framerate doesn't affect the game now? lol
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PS4 Pro is a piece of shit. Get a regular PS4 or Xbox One X.
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Find me a game that doesn't run smoothly consistently. I've played 114 of 'em so far and seen nothing outside of the early days of BF4 when the level events triggered. Then it was fixed.

You're so full of it. It's the same console running the same games. They chose not to segment the market by making anything exclusive to the Pro so all it boils down to is whether they can trick a person into paying more for a PS4 than they need to. Probably the same kind of loons that were talked into buying a XBX because 'it does 4k' but doesn't offer any games.

Don't buy a Pro for the resolution. Buy it for the framerate.
If you don't care about framerate then don't buy a Pro, especially not for one game. Buy a used Slim, if anything.
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i wouldn't waste money on a pro anyway. better off getting a normal ps4 and another game or two
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DPsx7 posted...

Find me a game that doesn't run smoothly consistently. I've played 114 of 'em so far and seen nothing outside of the early days of BF4 when the level events triggered. Then it was fixed.

Infamous: Second Son
Shadow Warrior
Bioshock Collection
Final Fantasy 14
Fallout 4

I mean, I could keep going, but since you only indicated that I find one game to list, I've more than exceeded the requirement.

DPsx7 posted...

You're so full of it. It's the same console running the same games. They chose not to segment the market by making anything exclusive to the Pro so all it boils down to is whether they can trick a person into paying more for a PS4 than they need to. Probably the same kind of loons that were talked into buying a XBX because 'it does 4k' but doesn't offer any games.

O.o

If you honestly believe that then it is evident that you are perhaps paranoid person who foolishly believes ever conspiracy story they hear. Here is a spec comparison of the Pro with the older PS4 models, if you still think it's the exact same system, then clearly you are not one to be suggesting to others if they should be buying said system or not.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-vs-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-slim-what-are-the-difference/1100-6456440/
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Find me a game that doesn't run smoothly consistently. I've played 114 of 'em so far and seen nothing outside of the early days of BF4 when the level events triggered. Then it was fixed.

Infamous: Second Son
Shadow Warrior
Bioshock Collection
Final Fantasy 14
Fallout 4

I mean, I could keep going, but since you only indicated that I find one game to list, I've more than exceeded the requirement.

DPsx7 posted...

You're so full of it. It's the same console running the same games. They chose not to segment the market by making anything exclusive to the Pro so all it boils down to is whether they can trick a person into paying more for a PS4 than they need to. Probably the same kind of loons that were talked into buying a XBX because 'it does 4k' but doesn't offer any games.

O.o

If you honestly believe that then it is evident that you are perhaps paranoid person who foolishly believes ever conspiracy story they hear. Here is a spec comparison of the Pro with the older PS4 models, if you still think it's the exact same system, then clearly you are not one to be suggesting to others if they should be buying said system or not.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-vs-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-slim-what-are-the-difference/1100-6456440/

Honestly the differences aren't that huge, compared to the huge price increase. Looking into it a bit more, I think I'll go for the slim- I'm mainly getting the console to play exclusives, and most of those look good on the slim anyways.
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The differences are bigger in some games than others. I got mine for only $50 more than the regular PS+
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Metalsonic66 posted...

The differences are bigger in some games than others. I got mine for only $50 more than the regular PS+

How much did you pay overall? I doubt I'll see any remotely good deals for the pro anytime soon.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Find me a game that doesn't run smoothly consistently. I've played 114 of 'em so far and seen nothing outside of the early days of BF4 when the level events triggered. Then it was fixed.

Infamous: Second Son
Shadow Warrior
Bioshock Collection
Final Fantasy 14
Fallout 4

I mean, I could keep going, but since you only indicated that I find one game to list, I've more than exceeded the requirement.

infamous: second son... i had zero problems

shadow warrior... never played

bioshiock collection... a last gen port not running well? quelle suprise. 9/10 they don't put the effort in, they just want easy money.

final fantasy 14... never played

fallout 4... only problems i had were with my glitched settlement. i made it bigger than it's supposed to be capped at, thats understandable lag
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loading time and frame rate will be better on the pro than the regular ps4.

But... I'm still waiting for digital foundry to come out to see where it plays better. I about to hand my money over to the xbox one x version. But if there are ps4 exclusive I will probably buy that. or if ps4 has more details I will get that one.

that saying yeah in about 2-3 years the ps5 and xbox 2 will be out and they will release it on that with 4k 60 fps no checkerboarding. Also they will probably release the pc version too.
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It was $350 plus tax
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JanwayDaahl posted...

Honestly the differences aren't that huge, compared to the huge price increase. Looking into it a bit more, I think I'll go for the slim- I'm mainly getting the console to play exclusives, and most of those look good on the slim anyways.

And that is your choice and I respect it. I was just correcting his misinformation, saying the Pro is the same as the other models and has nothing of value when that simply isn't true. Now whether a person believes what the Pro does do is worth the increased price or if said person doesn't care enough to justify the price is something that person has to decide after seeing what each model provides, but to say the Pro does nothing and is just a repackaged PS4 with higher price tag is just simply wrong.
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Personally I wouldn't bother with a pro with a PS5 due soon enough.
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If you already have a PS4, I'd say don't bother with the Pro unless you can get a good trade-in price on your current one.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Find me a game that doesn't run smoothly consistently. I've played 114 of 'em so far and seen nothing outside of the early days of BF4 when the level events triggered. Then it was fixed.

Infamous: Second Son
Shadow Warrior
Bioshock Collection
Final Fantasy 14
Fallout 4

I mean, I could keep going, but since you only indicated that I find one game to list, I've more than exceeded the requirement.

DPsx7 posted...

You're so full of it. It's the same console running the same games. They chose not to segment the market by making anything exclusive to the Pro so all it boils down to is whether they can trick a person into paying more for a PS4 than they need to. Probably the same kind of loons that were talked into buying a XBX because 'it does 4k' but doesn't offer any games.

O.o

If you honestly believe that then it is evident that you are perhaps paranoid person who foolishly believes ever conspiracy story they hear. Here is a spec comparison of the Pro with the older PS4 models, if you still think it's the exact same system, then clearly you are not one to be suggesting to others if they should be buying said system or not.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-vs-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-slim-what-are-the-difference/1100-6456440/

Alrighty. For starters you're wrong on the first 2 as I've played those and they ran fine. I went through Bioshock when they were standalone games without trouble. No on the last 2.

It IS the same system, I already told you it's running the exact same games the same way. They didn't want to fragment the userbase with 2 different models (something I agree with). It's a marketing gimmick and nothing more. I have a PS4 and play plenty of games. This is a topic I know far too much about making it silly for anyone to pretend they know something I don't.

Second Son DID have framerate issues. It was still playable but it was definitely smoother with the Pro's Boost Mode
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Metalsonic66 posted...

Second Son DID have framerate issues. It was still playable but it was definitely smoother with the Pro's Boost Mode

What timeframe are we talking? I mean the only hope he has of making a case against mine is by going with the launch version. Don't forget I rarely play games as fast as others, so by the time I get to a game it has been patched and optimized.

Look how many complained about No Mans Sky. Meanwhile it's still on my backlog. When I do try it, it'll probably be nothing like what they saw.

DPsx7 posted...

I mean the only hope he has of making a case against mine is by going with the launch version.

What case? Your whole argument is "they are exactly the same system." I have already proven you wrong by posting a spec comparison between the models of PS4 to show that the Pro actually has different hardware than the previous version, thus it is in fact not the same as the previous systems. I also posted a link with a list of how a ton of games are affected by the PS4 Pro, once again proving that the Pro is not the same as the previous models. You then command me to post at least one game that didn't run smoothly on the PS4, I posted several.

At this point, there is nothing more to discuss, you are factually wrong and your refusal to admit that you were wrong and your continued stance of saying they are the same only shows just how stubborn you are to admitting to your misinformation. I've already posted evidence to show the Pro is different from the previous models and that it does add value that warrants an increased price. At this point either just accept that you are wrong and move on or give us proof that they Pro is exactly the same as previous models.

Until you can do that, there really isn't anything else to say since the TC has already made up their mind and thankfully it was after I posted the correct information about the Pro so they could at least make a fully informed choice based on what they personally felt would be a more worthwhile model for them and their needs.
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DPsx7 posted...

What timeframe are we talking? I mean the only hope he has of making a case against mine is by going with the launch version. Don't forget I rarely play games as fast as others, so by the time I get to a game it has been patched and optimized.

I only played it for the first time a couple montha ago. The only patch that affected FPS was a 30 FPS cap option.
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If you are ready to buy a Pro for a multisystem game, why not take the next step and go X?
Best console for 4K gaming.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I mean the only hope he has of making a case against mine is by going with the launch version.

What case? Your whole argument is "they are exactly the same system." I have already proven you wrong by posting a spec comparison between the models of PS4 to show that the Pro actually has different hardware than the previous version, thus it is in fact not the same as the previous systems. I also posted a link with a list of how a ton of games are affected by the PS4 Pro, once again proving that the Pro is not the same as the previous models. You then command me to post at least one game that didn't run smoothly on the PS4, I posted several.

At this point, there is nothing more to discuss, you are factually wrong and your refusal to admit that you were wrong and your continued stance of saying they are the same only shows just how stubborn you are to admitting to your misinformation. I've already posted evidence to show the Pro is different from the previous models and that it does add value that warrants an increased price. At this point either just accept that you are wrong and move on or give us proof that they Pro is exactly the same as previous models.

Until you can do that, there really isn't anything else to say since the TC has already made up their mind and thankfully it was after I posted the correct information about the Pro so they could at least make a fully informed choice based on what they personally felt would be a more worthwhile model for them and their needs.

I think it's wonderful you believe you proved anything. You didn't offer any games as proof since I played half of them and will confirm they had no problems. Experience beats your randomly selected list.

So yeah, in the end the Pro really isn't any different. Other than the outside design I suppose. What matters most is the games it plays, not marketing hype.

lol
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Zanimar posted...

JanwayDaahl posted...

Honestly the differences aren't that huge, compared to the huge price increase. Looking into it a bit more, I think I'll go for the slim- I'm mainly getting the console to play exclusives, and most of those look good on the slim anyways.

And that is your choice and I respect it. I was just correcting his misinformation, saying the Pro is the same as the other models and has nothing of value when that simply isn't true. Now whether a person believes what the Pro does do is worth the increased price or if said person doesn't care enough to justify the price is something that person has to decide after seeing what each model provides, but to say the Pro does nothing and is just a repackaged PS4 with higher price tag is just simply wrong.

The differences are very minimal. I'm actually shocked now that people are willing to pay so much for a Pro when there's very little to be gained from it on most titles.

Foppe posted...

If you are ready to buy a Pro for a multisystem game, why not take the next step and go X?
Best console for 4K gaming.

What do you mean? I don't care too much about minor graphical differences. Playstation has a much, much better lineup of games than Xbox does.
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DPsx7 posted...

I think it's wonderful you believe you proved anything. You didn't offer any games as proof since I played half of them and will confirm they had no problems. Experience beats your randomly selected list.

"I played it therefore there is no problem" is like a 5 year old going "nu uh" when told something they don't believe. If that is how you plan to argue, then not only is it pointless to continue any kind of discussion with you since you'd rather resort to childlike arguing, but it only solidifies that you have no actual argument at this point and are only wanting to argue for the sake of arguing, even when you are in a position that can't win at all. Ignore the links that provide factual evidence all you want, everyone else can look at those links and see the truth for themselves. Also, not to mention, you've yet to provide actual evidence to prove your side, so this argument is over until you can provide such evidence.

JanwayDaahl posted...

The differences are very minimal. I'm actually shocked now that people are willing to pay so much for a Pro when there's very little to be gained from it on most titles.

It's a matter of opinion. For example some people deem a GTX 1080 as necessary while others deem a GTX 980 as good enough. I did what I wanted, which was to make sure you had all the correct info instead of being mislead by those with a clear bias. If you don't feel the added features isn't worth the extra price, it's all good. Personally for me, it was nice to have a much more stable Fallout 4 that didn't freeze up every so often as I would try to navigate the denser areas and it's awesome to no longer have screen tearing and/or stuttering in games that had them on older models.

Again, if you don't find the added features worth the increased price, that is perfectly fine, you get the model that makes you happy and being happy is what matters in the end.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

I think it's wonderful you believe you proved anything. You didn't offer any games as proof since I played half of them and will confirm they had no problems. Experience beats your randomly selected list.

"I played it therefore there is no problem" is like a 5 year old going "nu uh" when told something they don't believe. If that is how you plan to argue, then not only is it pointless to continue any kind of discussion with you since you'd rather resort to childlike arguing, but it only solidifies that you have no actual argument at this point and are only wanting to argue for the sake of arguing, even when you are in a position that can't win at all. Ignore the links that provide factual evidence all you want, everyone else can look at those links and see the truth for themselves. Also, not to mention, you've yet to provide actual evidence to prove your side, so this argument is over until you can provide such evidence.

You never had a valid argument to begin with. I played those games proving you're lying. Was there anything else or did you fail then and there? What's more nobody else thinks the Pro is different. The odds aren't in your favor yet you act like I've been wrong somewhere. Talk about childish tactics... Maybe you wanna play some games before offering 'advice' on what to buy. Regurgitating the hype isn't going to help the OP make informed decisions.

I've played Horizon: Zero Dawn on both systems and it flows and looks significantly better on Pro.

It was only 50 more for me though. Honestly if you're worried about longevity the Pro is probably worth it especially if you can get the new Red Dead Remption with it.
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DrPrimemaster posted...

I've played Horizon: Zero Dawn

I was about to try that one but Gravity Rush 2 was on the pile longer. Hopefully soon.

DPsx7 posted...

You never had a valid argument to begin with. I played those games proving you're lying. Was there anything else or did you fail then and there? What's more nobody else thinks the Pro is different. The odds aren't in your favor yet you act like I've been wrong somewhere. Talk about childish tactics... Maybe you wanna play some games before offering 'advice' on what to buy. Regurgitating the hype isn't going to help the OP make informed decisions.

Ya know, I must applaud you for your level of stubbornness as I don't meet many (actually I haven't met any) who are so stubborn that they willfully ignore things just to continue to be wrong. Since you want to fixate on the games on older models of PS4s (which has nothing to do with the core argument that you are now trying to avoid) and since you only want to fixate on anecdotal evidence instead of the factual information posted in my first link, here ya go, anecdotal evidence that is still better quality than what you have provided.

Infamous: Second Son
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/704525-infamous-second-son/68901002

Shadow Warrior
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/shadow-warrior-for-ps4-out-now-%C2%96-any-good.917182/page-2

Post #55:
the fov slider has no effect on framerate or tearing. i played until chapter 4 and the tearing gets worse over time, since the game throws more enemies at you. it doesnt affect the gameplay but yeah, if you hate tearing (like me), it sucks.

game itself is awesome and a ton of fun, but the technical issues really drag it down. but if you are insensitive to tearing, you will be fine.

Bioshock Collection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9E5EPzsE0M" data-time="&start=207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRE4i0xHus" data-time="&start=129

Final Fantasy 14:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/678050-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/76229550

Fallout 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeyKG_x_PAs" data-time="

There, now can you just stop, you can't win this argument. Either just admit you're wrong or just quietly stop.
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DPsx7 posted...

DrPrimemaster posted...

I've played Horizon: Zero Dawn

I was about to try that one but Gravity Rush 2 was on the pile longer. Hopefully soon.

Gameplay is really good and the story is awesome.

Its the kind of story that you are so excited to discuss that even though you know the other person isn't paying attention you keep talking about it anyway. Like when you were a little kid trying to explain a game you were playing to your parents.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

You never had a valid argument to begin with. I played those games proving you're lying. Was there anything else or did you fail then and there? What's more nobody else thinks the Pro is different. The odds aren't in your favor yet you act like I've been wrong somewhere. Talk about childish tactics... Maybe you wanna play some games before offering 'advice' on what to buy. Regurgitating the hype isn't going to help the OP make informed decisions.

Ya know, I must applaud you for your level of stubbornness as I don't meet many (actually I haven't met any) who are so stubborn that they willfully ignore things just to continue to be wrong. Since you want to fixate on the games on older models of PS4s (which has nothing to do with the core argument that you are now trying to avoid) and since you only want to fixate on anecdotal evidence instead of the factual information posted in my first link, here ya go, anecdotal evidence that is still better quality than what you have provided.

Infamous: Second Son
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/704525-infamous-second-son/68901002

Shadow Warrior
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/shadow-warrior-for-ps4-out-now-%C2%96-any-good.917182/page-2

Post #55:
the fov slider has no effect on framerate or tearing. i played until chapter 4 and the tearing gets worse over time, since the game throws more enemies at you. it doesnt affect the gameplay but yeah, if you hate tearing (like me), it sucks.

game itself is awesome and a ton of fun, but the technical issues really drag it down. but if you are insensitive to tearing, you will be fine.

Bioshock Collection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9E5EPzsE0M" data-time="&start=207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRE4i0xHus" data-time="&start=129

Final Fantasy 14:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/678050-final-fantasy-xiv-online-a-realm-reborn/76229550

Fallout 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPZXkdD1RwQ" data-time="

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeyKG_x_PAs" data-time="

There, now can you just stop, you can't win this argument. Either just admit you're wrong or just quietly stop.

Explain what I'm trying to avoid. I said the Pro doesn't do anything. You lied by saying it 'runs games better' which is when I asked for a list. Some of those randomly chosen games I played personally where I could verify your 'proof' was bogus. If that doesn't satisfy you then I'm not sure what will. He wanted advice and I gave it. You posted BS and I called you on it. Which brings us here.

DP being intentionally dense
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DPsx7 posted...

Explain what I'm trying to avoid. I said the Pro doesn't do anything. You lied by saying it 'runs games better' which is when I asked for a list. Some of those randomly chosen games I played personally where I could verify your 'proof' was bogus. If that doesn't satisfy you then I'm not sure what will. He wanted advice and I gave it. You posted BS and I called you on it. Which brings us here.

I did not lie, I've posted a link that lists a ton of games and how the Pro affects them and I also posted a link to a site that shows the specs of the Pro and previous models of PS4, both sites proved the Pro does do things over the previous models and that you are wrong. You are the one posting "BS" with your anecdotal evidence of "well I played it and you are wrong," while I've done nothing post post link after link to further prove you are incorrect. At this point the argument is over and you have clearly lost. Feel free to keep on repeating yourself over and over, but until you provide more proof than "I played it," you have lost the argument.

Metalsonic66 posted...

DP being intentionally dense

Yeah, and at this point I'm done dealing with someone being purposefully dense. Until he decides to respond with more than a glorified "nu uh" response, I'll keep from feeding him.
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Zanimar posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Explain what I'm trying to avoid. I said the Pro doesn't do anything. You lied by saying it 'runs games better' which is when I asked for a list. Some of those randomly chosen games I played personally where I could verify your 'proof' was bogus. If that doesn't satisfy you then I'm not sure what will. He wanted advice and I gave it. You posted BS and I called you on it. Which brings us here.

I did not lie, I've posted a link that lists a ton of games and how the Pro affects them and I also posted a link to a site that shows the specs of the Pro and previous models of PS4, both sites proved the Pro does do things over the previous models and that you are wrong. You are the one posting "BS" with your anecdotal evidence of "well I played it and you are wrong," while I've done nothing post post link after link to further prove you are incorrect. At this point the argument is over and you have clearly lost. Feel free to keep on repeating yourself over and over, but until you provide more proof than "I played it," you have lost the argument.

Metalsonic66 posted...

DP being intentionally dense

Yeah, and at this point I'm done dealing with someone being purposefully dense. Until he decides to respond with more than a glorified "nu uh" response, I'll keep from feeding him.

The only one losing here is you. How else can I explain I just proved your links to be lies? You're not even trying to defend it. It's crazy that you'll ignore facts in the attempt to prove me wrong just once. Funny in a way though, my experience bothers people SO much that they keep trying.

Good, run away and leave your nonsense out of the topic. Go back to your Steams and XB's, that's where stupid people congregate anyway. Can't disprove that either.

So where did we leave off... Since the Pro does nothing the normal PS4 can't you're right to seek a Slim. I would expect a few deals around BF if you're willing to wait that long. Other ways to save include waiting for gift card sales or specials at various sites.

Ah I see this topic has become the shitshow I'd hoped.
Of course the PS4 pro is the best PS4 on the market and does run pro enhanced games a bit better but if it's worth paying more for a minimum upgrade at this point in the PS4s life cycle is purely subjective.

DPsx7 posted...

Since the Pro does nothing the normal PS4 can't

Well they both play the same games sure. That's all that matters. If I cared about graphics, FPS and all that I'd be gaming on the PC. Personally I believe the pro isn't worth the upgrade. Even more so with the PS5 happening. If others however are happy to pay more for a minor step up then so be it.
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wwinterj25 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Since the Pro does nothing the normal PS4 can't

Well they both play the same games sure. That's all that matters. If I cared about graphics, FPS and all that I'd be gaming on the PC. Personally I believe the pro isn't worth the upgrade. Even more so with the PS5 happening. If others however are happy to pay more for a minor step up then so be it.

Which has been the general consensus of the topic. Then this little crotch magoo comes in with a tiny list of games his friends played once and acts like he has a clue. Some people just don't deserve to be here. But he was wrong and left so we should be in the clear.

DPsx7 posted...

Which has been the general consensus of the topic.

I see. I didn't read it all I admit.
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