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Not_Wylvane
10/16/18 3:31:50 AM
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The contest begins Friday, October 19. Midnight UTC, 8PM Eastern, 5PM Pacific.

Get your brackets in before then! https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx_entry

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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
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~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
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~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages
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spooky96
10/16/18 3:36:22 AM
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tag
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bwburke94
10/16/18 4:40:09 AM
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Certainly not anyone's alt account.
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LeonhartFour
10/16/18 12:09:29 PM
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NowItsAngeTime
10/16/18 1:21:23 PM
#5:


Not_Wylvane posted...
The contest begins Friday, October 19. Midnight UTC, 8PM Eastern, 5PM Pacific.


To be more specific

All Contestants must complete their brackets by 3:59:59 PM PT on October 18, 2018.

hidden in:
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charmander6000
10/16/18 1:27:41 PM
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It's a shame that the matches begin at 5pm Pacific, I'll be missing the start of most matches.

It makes sense from SBAllen's side, plus we may get to see larger vote swings which could make things interesting.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/16/18 2:21:08 PM
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The Mega Man/Cloud/Kirby/Crono 4-pack (can we call it that) is scaring me.

They are all N9ers with something to prove versus a very scary puffball.
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Zylothewolf
10/16/18 2:26:04 PM
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^That dum Bowserfodder won't get that far.
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ZeldaTPLink
10/16/18 2:27:32 PM
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Thinking about it all N9ers have something to prove:

Link: must prove he is capable of defeating rallies.
Mario: must prove he's the new #2.
Snake: must also prove he's the new #2, and that he kept his 2013 strength.
Cloud: must prove he hasn't faded, and that he's still #2.
Sephiroth: must proved he still deserves his place in the N9.
Samus: must prove she is still a worthy rival to Snake.
Mega Man: must prove his showing against Charizard was legit and he's more than just a bottom tier N9er.
Sonic: must prove he still has N9 strength, against all franchise decay odds.
Crono: must prove his strength looks more like 2015's than 2010 and 2013's.
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Mac Arrowny
10/16/18 5:02:02 PM
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What was the average votes per match in the 2015 contest?
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AxemRedRanger
10/16/18 5:04:33 PM
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Emailed Karma Hunter to make sure he was aware of the contest. Turns out he wasn't and he's been very busy with his job but will try to fill in a bracket in and should have more free time in a few weeks.

can we think of anyone else who's been missing since the contest was announced that I should go send some last minute contest spam to?
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ZeldaTPLink
10/16/18 5:12:16 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
What was the average votes per match in the 2015 contest?


This sounds like a job for...

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OFool
10/16/18 6:58:18 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
What was the average votes per match in the 2015 contest?

I think 2013 was about 45-50k - boosted significantly by matches affected by rallies (which were over 100k).

Not sure about 2015 but 2013 presumably is a better indicator of what we will see this time around.
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LusterSoldier
10/16/18 8:22:48 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
What was the average votes per match in the 2015 contest?


Why would you even need to know this information?
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The_Ctes
10/16/18 8:24:19 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
What was the average votes per match in the 2015 contest?


Why would you even need to know this information?


Lol are you serious
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Leonhart4
10/16/18 8:27:29 PM
#16:


Luster exposed

He doesn't know the answer
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pjbasis
10/16/18 8:44:16 PM
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He just wants to make sure Mac won't use it for the wrong reasons
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Wreath
10/16/18 8:59:06 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Luster exposed

He doesn't know the answer


He probably has nightmares about not knowing this type of stuff

He knows

He just doesnt want to share
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BlAcK TuRtLe
10/17/18 1:45:06 AM
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Can someone explain to me why everyone seems to be sleeping on Sonic characters this year? Sonic Mania was amazing and very successful, I can't see how this won't translate to Sonic overperformances.
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haloiscoolisbak
10/17/18 1:48:02 AM
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Can someone explain to me why everyone seems to be sleeping on Sonic characters this year? Sonic Mania was amazing and very successful, I can't see how this won't translate to Sonic overperformances.


I'm taking Knuckles and Tails to round 2. Can't justify any further
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LeonhartFour
10/17/18 1:49:42 AM
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if you've got Tails to round 2 beating Chief isn't that much bigger of a hurdle than Drake
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pjbasis
10/17/18 1:51:38 AM
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Eh I don't think Sonic's reputation is going to fluctuate very much.

Even the good games don't really excite people outside the Sonic fanbase that much.
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haloiscoolisbak
10/17/18 1:55:19 AM
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LeonhartFour posted...
if you've got Tails to round 2 beating Chief isn't that much bigger of a hurdle than Drake


I know I'm a bit of a halo fanboy though
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Nameless2000
10/17/18 1:56:24 AM
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I wonder how much pic factor is gonna affect Sonic matches. Even my votes could be swayed by a good Sonic Mania pic!
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Ranticoot
10/17/18 2:09:23 AM
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I have Tails in Round 3 and I'm more worried about Drake than Chief!

Man Chief this year is going to be bad. Real bad. I don't trust this site to still actually like Nathan Drake either.
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haloiscoolisbak
10/17/18 2:11:34 AM
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I liked what Ngamer said on the show about how Chief/Halo are approaching nostalgia status and won't get anti votes anymore. But they might not get many votes regardless. I might change to Tails round 3. Fuck Nathan Drake
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LusterSoldier
10/17/18 4:46:07 AM
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charmander6000 posted...
It's a shame that the matches begin at 5pm Pacific, I'll be missing the start of most matches.

It makes sense from SBAllen's side, plus we may get to see larger vote swings which could make things interesting.


We could see larger than expected trend shifts just from the double votes for registered users, as the registered user vote will be more concentrated near the beginning of the match. The early vote totals will likely see an improvement by getting moved to 8:00 PM Eastern, but it will be tough to measure that with the registered user bonus.

Another thing to keep an eye on during the first few days is how quickly the site adjusts to the new starting time. When 12 hour matches first appeared in the 2010 Character Battle, it took less than a week for the site to adjust to the starting time for day matches. I don't expect the new starting time to be an issue for the site as the previous 2 contests had a countdown timer above the current matches counting down to the start of the next matches, and this timer should make a return for this contest too.
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SuperNiceDog
10/17/18 5:45:08 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
I liked what Ngamer said on the show about how Chief/Halo are approaching nostalgia status and won't get anti votes anymore. But they might not get many votes regardless. I might change to Tails round 3. Fuck Nathan Drake


there is ZERO chance Nathan Drake wins a match. He's too normal
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BlAcK TuRtLe
10/17/18 7:42:36 AM
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pjbasis posted...
Eh I don't think Sonic's reputation is going to fluctuate very much.

Even the good games don't really excite people outside the Sonic fanbase that much.

Except this is literally the only good game that has come out since these contests first started in 2002. That has to count for something. Certainly enough to put Knuckles over shithead Zidane
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haloiscoolisbak
10/17/18 7:46:56 AM
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SuperNiceDog posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
I liked what Ngamer said on the show about how Chief/Halo are approaching nostalgia status and won't get anti votes anymore. But they might not get many votes regardless. I might change to Tails round 3. Fuck Nathan Drake


there is ZERO chance Nathan Drake wins a match. He's too normal


Yeah I know characters don't equal games but the 2015 contest showed how much this site loves the 90s. Sonic 2 doubled Uncharted. Add in the double vote factor and Tails suddenly looks damn tempting imo
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AxemRedRanger
10/17/18 7:57:01 AM
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
pjbasis posted...
Eh I don't think Sonic's reputation is going to fluctuate very much.

Even the good games don't really excite people outside the Sonic fanbase that much.

Except this is literally the only good game that has come out since these contests first started in 2002. That has to count for something. Certainly enough to put Knuckles over shithead Zidane

Knuckles almost lost to Cecil in 2010 and looked no better in 2013.

He probably needs a Mania boost to even be competitive with Zidane. FFIX beat Kingdom Hearts in 2015.

I do have Tails winning twice though.
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charmander6000
10/17/18 8:18:06 AM
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LusterSoldier posted...
charmander6000 posted...
It's a shame that the matches begin at 5pm Pacific, I'll be missing the start of most matches.

It makes sense from SBAllen's side, plus we may get to see larger vote swings which could make things interesting.


We could see larger than expected trend shifts just from the double votes for registered users, as the registered user vote will be more concentrated near the beginning of the match. The early vote totals will likely see an improvement by getting moved to 8:00 PM Eastern, but it will be tough to measure that with the registered user bonus.

Another thing to keep an eye on during the first few days is how quickly the site adjusts to the new starting time. When 12 hour matches first appeared in the 2010 Character Battle, it took less than a week for the site to adjust to the starting time for day matches. I don't expect the new starting time to be an issue for the site as the previous 2 contests had a countdown timer above the current matches counting down to the start of the next matches, and this timer should make a return for this contest too.


Does anyone think it would be better to add the registered user bonus at the end of the match? Rallies tend to do just enough to win so a few thousand votes being added may reverse any rally.
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haloiscoolisbak
10/17/18 8:27:56 AM
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charmander6000 posted...
LusterSoldier posted...
charmander6000 posted...
It's a shame that the matches begin at 5pm Pacific, I'll be missing the start of most matches.

It makes sense from SBAllen's side, plus we may get to see larger vote swings which could make things interesting.


We could see larger than expected trend shifts just from the double votes for registered users, as the registered user vote will be more concentrated near the beginning of the match. The early vote totals will likely see an improvement by getting moved to 8:00 PM Eastern, but it will be tough to measure that with the registered user bonus.

Another thing to keep an eye on during the first few days is how quickly the site adjusts to the new starting time. When 12 hour matches first appeared in the 2010 Character Battle, it took less than a week for the site to adjust to the starting time for day matches. I don't expect the new starting time to be an issue for the site as the previous 2 contests had a countdown timer above the current matches counting down to the start of the next matches, and this timer should make a return for this contest too.


Does anyone think it would be better to add the registered user bonus at the end of the match? Rallies tend to do just enough to win so a few thousand votes being added may reverse any rally.


Thatd be pretty damn funny and a better rally prevention measure.

But it'd make the match itself way less exciting.
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LusterSoldier
10/17/18 8:28:20 AM
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charmander6000 posted...
Does anyone think it would be better to add the registered user bonus at the end of the match? Rallies tend to do just enough to win so a few thousand votes being added may reverse any rally.


There is one benefit to adding the registered user bonus once the match ends - It can give outside rallies a false impression that they've done just enough to win the match (as rallies tend to back off once their preferred entrant takes the lead).

The negatives towards adding the bonus after the match ends is that it can ruin the suspense of a close match. What you thought would have been a close match without the bonus could easily switch the other way once the bonus is applied. And it also favors rally attempts since they're seeing the actual results with the bonus already applied to the match before it ends.
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pjbasis
10/17/18 9:28:59 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Sonic 2 doubled Uncharted.


I mean...Sonic would double Drake...or worse...
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Big Bob
10/17/18 9:32:50 AM
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As a major Sonic fan myself, I'm not expecting much from the Sonic franchise, even with Mania. FFIX has been ported a couple of times, so I think Zidane will do well against Knuckles. Drake had Uncharted 4, and he wasn't exactly weak before that, and while Mania was a good game, it's not like it was a huge knockout, just better than what we're used to from Sonic. Overall, I think the characters will stay mostly constant from previous contests. Sadly, I don't have Knuckles, Tails, OR Metal Sonic winning their first rounds matches (of which they all have competitive ones).
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LeonhartFour
10/17/18 11:25:42 AM
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man literally everything gets ported multiple times these days that doesn't even matter

haloiscoolisbak posted...
Sonic 2 doubled Uncharted.


Because of Undertale spillover

now granted it was going to win easily anyway but it would've been more in the 62% range
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pjbasis
10/17/18 2:17:43 PM
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Yoshi/Pikachu/Zero is the one thing I'm really stuck on.

In most other debatable matches I can at least go with a heavy personal favorite.
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SuperNiceDog
10/17/18 2:21:06 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Yoshi/Pikachu/Zero is the one thing I'm really stuck on.

In most other debatable matches I can at least go with a heavy personal favorite.


Go with Zero!
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Ranticoot
10/17/18 2:25:08 PM
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I followed a simple philosophy. When in doubt, pick your favorite.

(I didn't, because I can't see Zero beating Pikachu, but if matches are that hard for you it never hurts to pick favorites)
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SuperNiceDog
10/17/18 2:29:30 PM
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pjbasis posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
Sonic 2 doubled Uncharted.


I mean...Sonic would double Drake...or worse...


Nathan Drake is NOT winning a match. That guy is a complete scrub, you heard it here first. No one cares about that guy ANYMORE

Normal guys never win.
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WitcherGeralt
10/17/18 3:26:26 PM
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What is the consensus on Cloud vs Mega Man? I haven't seen much discussion about it but Mega just got the Legacy Collection and MM11.
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Wreath
10/17/18 3:41:25 PM
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WitcherGeralt posted...
What is the consensus on Cloud vs Mega Man? I haven't seen much discussion about it but Mega just got the Legacy Collection and MM11.


Itll be closer than expected
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LeonhartFour
10/17/18 3:50:54 PM
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SuperNiceDog posted...
Nathan Drake is NOT winning a match. That guy is a complete scrub, you heard it here first. No one cares about that guy ANYMORE

Normal guys never win.


I mean except when Nathan Drake won last time
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DoctorJimmy133
10/17/18 3:53:07 PM
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WitcherGeralt posted...
What is the consensus on Cloud vs Mega Man? I haven't seen much discussion about it but Mega just got the Legacy Collection and MM11.

I'm going with Mega, I don't really trust Cloud after the Squirtle incident
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Steevo_234
10/17/18 4:07:15 PM
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Bowser vs Charizard thoughts?

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LeonhartFour
10/17/18 4:10:32 PM
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Charizard can win, but you've got to take the 2010 match with a grain of salt. He had a few advantages going into that match that he won't have here, primarily a Pokemon game coming out on the actual day of the match.
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bwburke94
10/17/18 5:12:25 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Charizard can win, but you've got to take the 2010 match with a grain of salt. He had a few advantages going into that match that he won't have here, primarily a Pokemon game coming out on the actual day of the match.

Basically a repeat of the Mario/Cloud thing, but with less controversy.
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Advokaiser
10/17/18 5:52:34 PM
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Has Link actually boosted that much with BotW?

I mean, his game was extremely well-received, but I heard his actual redesign had a mixed reception.
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WitcherGeralt
10/17/18 5:55:17 PM
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I'm pretty tempted to take Mega Man over Cloud. Can't be cookie cutter if you wanna win.
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