Current Events > Columbus Day: Nobody except native americans have a legitimate right to US land.

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
Sativa_Rose
10/09/18 7:00:26 AM
#53:


The United States has existed continuously since 1776. I think that is more than enough time to be considered a legitimate state. It's unfortunate what happened to the Native Americans, but often times in history, success and expansion of one civilization has come at the expense of others. Such is the way of the world. I am glad that the United States was created and expanded to its current borders.
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66
10/09/18 7:06:56 AM
#54:


legendarylemur posted...
Columbus Day shouldn't exist anymore on a modern capacity. But if I had to vote, still deny because Native Americans essentially lost their land. A lot of people lose their land and migrate or conquer new land throughout history. Having come from Asia and its ridiculous history of land swapping throughout millennia, I think Native Americans are treated much better in general than some other races of people who have been chased out of their land. I guess we should be glad to not be in a time period of constant warfare for the sake of land rights


Native reservations resemble third world countries tbh
---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw
The day Capitalism was humiliated :)
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose
10/09/18 7:14:01 AM
#55:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
legendarylemur posted...
Columbus Day shouldn't exist anymore on a modern capacity. But if I had to vote, still deny because Native Americans essentially lost their land. A lot of people lose their land and migrate or conquer new land throughout history. Having come from Asia and its ridiculous history of land swapping throughout millennia, I think Native Americans are treated much better in general than some other races of people who have been chased out of their land. I guess we should be glad to not be in a time period of constant warfare for the sake of land rights


Native reservations resemble third world countries tbh


But whose fault is that at this point? The areas outside of them are much better. The best thing they can do for themselves in terms of their economic well-being is move out of the reservation.
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe
10/09/18 7:44:44 AM
#56:


But the native Americans are offsprings from Israel tribes saved by Jesus Christ...
---
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC
... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees
10/09/18 7:45:49 AM
#57:


Its crazy how much better Canada treats their First Nation members.
---
Quit Crying
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam
10/09/18 7:47:04 AM
#58:


rights to land doesn't have meaning. animals were on the land before the native americans. maybe they should have the land?

its not a first come, first served system
... Copied to Clipboard!
#59
Post #59 was unavailable or deleted.
#60
Post #60 was unavailable or deleted.
josifrees
10/09/18 7:52:02 AM
#61:


Goats posted...
josifrees posted...
Its crazy how much better Canada treats their First Nation members.


Noooo that's really not true at all we treat our First Nations like trash garbador

Being treated like trash is better than being treated like you dont exist tho
---
Quit Crying
... Copied to Clipboard!
ehhwhatever
10/09/18 7:52:59 AM
#62:


There are still tribes, you have to be at least 25 percent native. The government is doing something right by recognizing them and not taxing them.
---
He is a man of great political sagacity, what about love?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose
10/09/18 7:59:10 AM
#63:


josifrees posted...
Goats posted...
josifrees posted...
Its crazy how much better Canada treats their First Nation members.


Noooo that's really not true at all we treat our First Nations like trash garbador

Being treated like trash is better than being treated like you dont exist tho


What the heck are you talking about? The Native Americans here in the US have it way better. Most of them (in terms of people who identify as Native American ethnically) don't even live on reservations anymore.
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX
10/09/18 9:13:54 AM
#64:


gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Conquerors of the land have every right to the land. When that group gets their asses kicked by the next group of conquerors, then they lose their right to the land to the newcomers. So on and so forth for eternity.

You say that now but if someone beat you up and robbed you you'll cry to the police, huh?

Nothing wrong with calling upon allies when their aid is needed.

But you'll have already lost and therefore the possessions will be forfeit. To reclaim them, not by your own force but the force of others would ultimately render possession of your stolen items to the police which in turn only further distances you from any legitimate claim to them. Basically? Might makes right.

So you believe that Nazi Germany should not have had to return control of the land they have already taken over after they had their asses walloped by the Allies since France, Poland, and other occupied countries could not retake it solely with their own forces.
---
Hmm...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose
10/09/18 10:00:38 AM
#65:


Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Conquerors of the land have every right to the land. When that group gets their asses kicked by the next group of conquerors, then they lose their right to the land to the newcomers. So on and so forth for eternity.

You say that now but if someone beat you up and robbed you you'll cry to the police, huh?

Nothing wrong with calling upon allies when their aid is needed.

But you'll have already lost and therefore the possessions will be forfeit. To reclaim them, not by your own force but the force of others would ultimately render possession of your stolen items to the police which in turn only further distances you from any legitimate claim to them. Basically? Might makes right.

So you believe that Nazi Germany should not have had to return control of the land they have already taken over after they had their asses walloped by the Allies since France, Poland, and other occupied countries could not retake it solely with their own forces.


When you lose the war, you lose the lands you had gained earlier in that war. If the Native Americans defeated the US on the battlefield, the US would not exist. If somehow a group of Native Americans managed to take over a huge part of US territory today and claimed it as an independent country, their legitimacy would depend first and foremost on their ability to actually hold the territory, which would depend on their ability to defeat the US military on the battlefield.

People don't like the sound of this because it seems unethical, but that is the reality of the world we live in. Winning the war matters.
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX
10/09/18 10:43:59 AM
#66:


Sativa_Rose posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Conquerors of the land have every right to the land. When that group gets their asses kicked by the next group of conquerors, then they lose their right to the land to the newcomers. So on and so forth for eternity.

You say that now but if someone beat you up and robbed you you'll cry to the police, huh?

Nothing wrong with calling upon allies when their aid is needed.

But you'll have already lost and therefore the possessions will be forfeit. To reclaim them, not by your own force but the force of others would ultimately render possession of your stolen items to the police which in turn only further distances you from any legitimate claim to them. Basically? Might makes right.

So you believe that Nazi Germany should not have had to return control of the land they have already taken over after they had their asses walloped by the Allies since France, Poland, and other occupied countries could not retake it solely with their own forces.


When you lose the war, you lose the lands you had gained earlier in that war. If the Native Americans defeated the US on the battlefield, the US would not exist. If somehow a group of Native Americans managed to take over a huge part of US territory today and claimed it as an independent country, their legitimacy would depend first and foremost on their ability to actually hold the territory, which would depend on their ability to defeat the US military on the battlefield.

People don't like the sound of this because it seems unethical, but that is the reality of the world we live in. Winning the war matters.

In order words, there's absolutely no problem with my winning the "war" against the robber by enlisting the help of the police to "defeat" him in which case I regain the right to my property which was taken from me by force.
---
Hmm...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose
10/09/18 9:16:02 PM
#67:


Paragon21XX posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Paragon21XX posted...
Conquerors of the land have every right to the land. When that group gets their asses kicked by the next group of conquerors, then they lose their right to the land to the newcomers. So on and so forth for eternity.

You say that now but if someone beat you up and robbed you you'll cry to the police, huh?

Nothing wrong with calling upon allies when their aid is needed.

But you'll have already lost and therefore the possessions will be forfeit. To reclaim them, not by your own force but the force of others would ultimately render possession of your stolen items to the police which in turn only further distances you from any legitimate claim to them. Basically? Might makes right.

So you believe that Nazi Germany should not have had to return control of the land they have already taken over after they had their asses walloped by the Allies since France, Poland, and other occupied countries could not retake it solely with their own forces.


When you lose the war, you lose the lands you had gained earlier in that war. If the Native Americans defeated the US on the battlefield, the US would not exist. If somehow a group of Native Americans managed to take over a huge part of US territory today and claimed it as an independent country, their legitimacy would depend first and foremost on their ability to actually hold the territory, which would depend on their ability to defeat the US military on the battlefield.

People don't like the sound of this because it seems unethical, but that is the reality of the world we live in. Winning the war matters.

In order words, there's absolutely no problem with my winning the "war" against the robber by enlisting the help of the police to "defeat" him in which case I regain the right to my property which was taken from me by force.


Sure, that all works in theory, but who are you going to enlist in real life who would actually put their lives on the line to do that? Who has that kind of firepower to take on a robber with so many guns?
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe
10/10/18 1:31:34 AM
#68:


Didnt we remove the right of conquest from international laws?
---
GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose
10/10/18 1:41:30 AM
#69:


Foppe posted...
Didnt we remove the right of conquest from international laws?


Yeah but people break the rules all the time and no one gets punished.
---
[This signature was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]
... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrimis
10/10/18 2:13:31 AM
#70:


... Copied to Clipboard!
Rick-C137
10/10/18 2:14:53 AM
#71:


finders keepers
---
Rickest Rick bro
... Copied to Clipboard!
shinobipride
10/10/18 2:15:47 AM
#72:


Kombucha posted...
How did you g.o.a.t. and why?

---
Only one thing trumps death, mediocrity. Nikola Tesla.
... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao
10/10/18 4:28:03 AM
#73:


D. No group has the right to own an entire country like its private property.
---
Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2